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  • [00:14:26] <dioioib> ds2: you still around?
  • [00:17:37] <dioioib> for anyone interested in lending some advice I am trying to use a bluetooth dongle in Angstrom everything detects etc but I can not get it to load the as hci0, I have been reading that some bluetooth dongles are not compatible. Is this typical behaviour? And here is some additional information the last few lines are me trying to load the dongle in the console: http://pastebin.com/WJxDY3cK
  • [00:20:58] <ds2> Is this a sony dongle?
  • [00:21:11] <dioioib> yeah
  • [00:21:50] <ds2> could be... I haven't encountered the sony dongles yet
  • [00:21:59] <ds2> the $0.99 + shipping ones worked fine for me
  • [00:22:08] <dioioib> nice price
  • [00:22:17] <dioioib> where do I get some of those
  • [00:22:33] <ds2> last year amazon had them
  • [00:22:35] <emeb> DX has 'em if you can wait a few weeks
  • [00:22:49] <dioioib> yeah times not a prob.
  • [00:23:09] <emeb> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866
  • [00:23:40] <emeb> I've got some of these working on Ubuntu. For some reason Fedora 11 doesn't like them though.
  • [00:23:48] <dioioib> $2 thats double the price emeb
  • [00:23:49] <dioioib> :)
  • [00:23:54] <emeb> free shipping
  • [00:24:04] <dioioib> well I like free shipping.
  • [00:24:07] <ds2> depends on how you pay
  • [00:24:18] <ds2> some CCs will charge you another $1 or so
  • [00:24:43] <dioioib> do they take Paypal thats my usual.. I'd pick up a handful anyway at that price
  • [00:24:57] <emeb> I always PayPal DX.
  • [00:24:59] <ds2> paypal passes through the foreign $$ conversion fee
  • [00:25:18] <emeb> but DX charges in USD
  • [00:25:36] <ds2> didn't seem to matter
  • [00:25:40] <dioioib> that works for me. even if I order 5 its only 9.90 man thats good.
  • [00:26:21] <emeb> Check out some of the other stuff - got some 100MHz scope probes for $8 a few weeks back.
  • [00:26:53] <emeb> Seem pretty nice. Better than my 25 year old Tek probes. (not saying much :) )
  • [00:27:09] <ds2> did you actually try them with a 100MHz signal?
  • [00:27:26] <emeb> My 'scope is only 60MHz. They're good enough for that.
  • [00:27:48] <dioioib> damn i jumped too quick on the order I am bound to find something else I want. is there an ethernet USB dongle that works with BB too
  • [00:28:00] <ds2> still, was it down by more then 3dB at 60MHz?
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  • [00:28:33] <emeb> No, they're pretty flat out as far as I have checked. About 45MHz...
  • [00:28:50] <emeb> Nice sharp edges on the digital signals...
  • [00:28:53] <ds2> Hmm I'll have to remember that
  • [00:29:50] <emeb> looks like they're sold out of the 100MHz ones. Here's the 60: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34220
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  • [00:31:49] <dioioib> how about this thing? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2797
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  • [00:33:22] <ds2> that thing seems like a powerhog
  • [00:33:30] <ds2> it gets hot just being plugged in w/o a driver attached
  • [00:34:28] <dioioib> that ethernet dongle?
  • [00:34:35] <ds2> yeah
  • [00:34:41] <dioioib> damn
  • [00:34:50] <emeb> gn
  • [00:34:54] <ds2> you can try it and see.. prehaps I got a bum unit
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  • [00:36:56] <dioioib> this one looks like the same thing in black http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22684
  • [00:39:30] <dioioib> I don't think any of this cheep stuff is going to give decent power consumption.
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  • [00:39:58] <ds2> *shrug*
  • [00:40:13] <ds2> always pop in a SPI to ethernet part
  • [00:46:02] <dioioib> would you recommend the beaglebuddy?
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  • [00:53:47] <ds2> what's the beaglebuddy?
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  • [00:54:01] <dioioib> ds2: I think you are right the better option for me would be too get an SPI ethernet board. The Zippy board is only 10base-T anyway
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  • [00:54:11] <dioioib> http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16147&cat=0&page=1&featured
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  • [00:54:57] <ds2> for SPI, there is no point with anything more then 10baseT
  • [00:54:58] <dioioib> and this version is 100$ http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16148&cat=255&page=1 with 100 base T
  • [00:55:19] <ds2> 100baseT is a waste... .the theoretical bandwidth for the SPI port is 48Mbs
  • [00:55:30] <dioioib> ah.. ok.
  • [00:55:50] <ds2> I'd just wire up one of the microchip modules that are floating around through a level shifter
  • [00:56:08] <dioioib> ok.
  • [00:56:40] <dioioib> I'm not even sure how much I will use ethernet after the board is setup the way I need it
  • [00:57:28] <ds2> hehe
  • [00:57:35] <dioioib> if I could find a way to use the kue.4 driver for the usb ethernet device I have that would be even better. :)
  • [00:57:37] <ds2> in that case, there is always usbnet
  • [00:57:44] <ds2> nice simple and cheap
  • [00:57:58] <dioioib> thats the thing we talked about earlier?
  • [00:58:32] <ds2> yeah
  • [00:58:43] <ds2> g_ether on the beagle and a peice of USB cable
  • [00:59:44] <dioioib> I tried that earlier and I was told that it was incompatible with the kernel I was using.
  • [01:00:12] <ds2> thought you loaded g_ether?
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  • [01:00:44] <dioioib> I tried
  • [01:00:53] <dioioib> thats what gave me the incompatible message
  • [01:01:11] <ds2> sounds like your module binaries are not compiled right
  • [01:01:34] <dioioib> I just used the Angstrom precompiled.
  • [01:01:42] <ds2> blah
  • [01:01:51] <ds2> have fun :D
  • [01:01:57] <dioioib> lol
  • [01:02:05] <dioioib> yeah no kidding.
  • [01:02:42] <dioioib> just from the experience I am not liking it.
  • [01:03:04] <dioioib> what distro are you using on your boards?
  • [01:03:14] <ds2> random
  • [01:03:22] <ds2> whatever is on the SD card I can grab
  • [01:04:31] <dioioib> and you build everything from source?
  • [01:04:45] <dioioib> kernel, modules, etc?
  • [01:04:45] <ds2> mix
  • [01:05:01] <ds2> kernel, yes.. userland, I don't care where it comes from
  • [01:06:54] <dioioib> this beagle stuff is all really new to me and I really haven't done any cross platform compiling.
  • [01:08:12] <ds2> the compile natively :D
  • [01:09:04] <dioioib> on the beagle you mean.
  • [01:09:09] <ds2> yep
  • [01:09:56] <dioioib> I would need to setup gcc etc. I would assume thats out there.
  • [01:10:10] <thurbad> I think I can finally start cross compiling in earnest.. dropped the library that required cmake from my project
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  • [01:10:26] <ds2> if you are lazy, you can borrow GCC from some SD card...i.e. Angstrom have it...the commericial guys have it, etc
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  • [01:11:50] <dioioib> I'll be honest right now I just need to get some things compiled and working or I am going to be in some hot water later on.
  • [01:22:45] <thurbad> cross compiling is generally easy if you bitbake angstrom you have the toolchain for it
  • [01:23:20] <thurbad> if you have nonstandard libraries that you can't build in the toolchain it starts getting dicey
  • [01:24:21] <dioioib> nothing non-standard at this time,
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  • [02:01:41] <djlewis> hi guys
  • [02:01:59] <nullpuppy> yo.
  • [02:02:09] <djlewis> dioioib, yep, you can build on BB with Angstrom and Gnome easliy.
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  • [03:18:46] <dioioib> djlewis: is gcc already installed on the preconfigured rootfs?
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  • [03:59:02] <thurbad> not unless you added it with narcissisus
  • [04:00:52] <dioioib> I did make a build earlier today with some additionals but I can't remember if that was part of the additions. I would imagine it was.
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  • [04:56:00] <tototot> o
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  • [04:56:31] <tototot> can you run dos on beagle board ?
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  • [06:47:06] <kblin> hm, too bad. adding a cap to J3 helped a bit, but didn't fix ehci kicking the bucket under heavy load
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  • [08:25:09] <innosam> hello.is there anyone willing to talk about my idea in GSoC
  • [08:25:30] <innosam> hello.is there anyone willing to talk about my idea in GSoC
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  • [10:53:15] <ksinkar> how much time does it take for the prompt from BB to appear if connected via minicom
  • [10:57:15] <ksinkar> hello
  • [10:57:18] <ksinkar> is anyone there
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  • [11:05:35] <_av500_> no
  • [11:07:48] <_av500_> check your cabling
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  • [11:47:06] <_dv_> hi
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  • [11:48:07] <dv_> if I understand this correctly, I can build myself an image for the beagle board
  • [11:48:13] <dv_> via openembedded
  • [11:48:30] <dv_> (using angstrom)
  • [11:48:50] <dv_> and once I got the image working, I can get any other packages by using opkg ?
  • [11:48:58] <_av500_> yes
  • [11:49:01] <dv_> in other words, I do not have to compile all packages
  • [11:49:33] <dv_> what about stuff like powervr-drivers, libgles-omap
  • [11:50:19] <dv_> in short, I wonder if there is a specific set of packages that, even after having a working image, should/must be built via oe
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  • [13:40:18] <emin_> hi everyone
  • [13:40:40] <kapu> hi
  • [13:41:06] <emin_> There is any distrubitor in Turkey?
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  • [17:03:26] <Brokie> hello all
  • [17:03:57] <kapu> hai
  • [17:04:05] <Brokie> had fun today getting my auction site closed by justhost.com, and they used their ubersleek time machine to do it. http://digg.com/odd_stuff/boycottjusthost Digg it....
  • [17:04:12] <Brokie> hai kapu
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  • [17:42:06] <jesusmad31> Does beagle accept 16GB SD cards?
  • [17:43:12] <Qball> it accepted my 8gig
  • [17:43:15] <Qball> so it does sdhc
  • [17:43:18] <Qball> so 16gig should work
  • [17:43:26] <jesusmad31> I have a 16GB card reader on my laptop and I dont want to install linux right now... is there any Windows software for partitioning SD cards with msdos and linux?
  • [17:44:45] <jesusmad31> In other words... can I use windows for making the necesary partitions for the beagle board?
  • [17:45:49] <Qball> that I do not know, as I hardly ever use it
  • [17:46:02] <jesusmad31> k ty
  • [17:46:07] <Qball> but partition magic should be able todo it
  • [17:46:19] <jesusmad31> no it dont
  • [17:46:25] <jesusmad31> it doesnt even recognize my SD
  • [17:46:36] <jesusmad31> at least partiton magic 8.0
  • [17:47:25] <Qball> that sucks
  • [17:47:42] <jesusmad31> yeah
  • [17:49:03] <DanaG> jesusmad31: you can likely do stuff from a Linux LiveCD.
  • [17:49:07] <DanaG> No need to persistently install.
  • [17:49:22] <jesusmad31> I dont have cd on my laptop
  • [17:49:28] <jesusmad31> its a cheap one :)
  • [17:49:29] <DanaG> There's also a liveusb-creator thingy.
  • [17:49:36] <jesusmad31> usb?
  • [17:49:46] <DanaG> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
  • [17:49:55] <DanaG> Use a USB flash drive as a LiveCD.
  • [17:50:36] <jesusmad31> but ... how will the bios of my laptop know that he is going to boot from usb?
  • [17:51:11] <DanaG> On my laptop, you hit f9 to choose what to boot from.
  • [17:51:24] <jesusmad31> yes but.. from USB?
  • [17:51:55] <DanaG> As long as it's relatively modern (as in, say, first-gen pentium-M), it should support USB boot.
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  • [22:19:25] <dioioib> jesusmad31: yes 16GB SDHC cards work fine I am using a Panasonnic 16gb SDHC.
  • [22:19:41] <DanaG> oh yeah, was it that newegg one?
  • [22:19:50] <DanaG> Class 10?
  • [22:19:53] <DanaG> as they call it.
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  • [22:20:13] <DanaG> er, nevermind, that was this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820220451
  • [22:25:14] <bkero> nice price
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  • [22:33:33] <dioioib> no mine was a class 6
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  • [23:06:35] <djlewis> Yea! one of my dogs killed a 2lb field rat today :)
  • [23:06:50] <dioioib> lol nice
  • [23:06:51] <djlewis> well, maybe 1 lb ;P
  • [23:07:34] <dioioib> maybe the dog ate the other half.
  • [23:08:00] <djlewis> a small reward for the #$%^ @#@$$#^ eating the insulation off my riding mower's wiring harness.
  • [23:08:23] <dioioib> yeah i hate those things
  • [23:08:25] <djlewis> ok, back to beagleboard talk :) I have vented.. :)
  • [23:09:04] <djlewis> they have a foot long body, not counting tail.
  • [23:10:03] <dioioib> so i have a general question about uboot and the kernel. do you have to reload them into nand every time you change distros?
  • [23:10:56] <djlewis> I simply load all from sdhc
  • [23:11:06] <dioioib> humm.
  • [23:11:36] <djlewis> dioioib, you have a BB?
  • [23:11:58] <dioioib> I'm just not sure why I got a "syntax error"
  • [23:12:03] <dioioib> yeah I have the B7
  • [23:13:38] <djlewis> i've only used sakoman's gnome and Angstrom but always boot from SD
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  • [23:16:02] <SmkMnstr> what codec should i use to stream video from gumstix?
  • [23:17:01] <djlewis> SmkMnstr, wont that depend on the video encoding?
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  • [23:17:46] <SmkMnstr> yeah im asking what to use
  • [23:18:03] <djlewis> seems only you would know that.
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  • [23:18:13] <SmkMnstr> heh ok
  • [23:19:10] <djlewis> SmkMnstr, pick a video source type, google it for the codec required
  • [23:22:58] <djlewis> SmkMnstr, or study your streaming app and see what video
  • [23:23:06] <djlewis> encodings it supports.
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