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  • [00:06:04] <ds2> Mmm shell functions
  • [00:06:15] <ds2> esp ones that depend on IFS for behavior is fun
  • [00:07:31] <emeb> IFS?
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  • [00:21:03] <emeb> ds2 - Tony's kernel git : http://git.omapzoom.org/repo/omapkernel.git ??
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  • [00:26:23] <thurbad> anyone know what a good video format is for angstrom on the BB?
  • [00:27:31] <thurbad> ... and it has to be redistributable, so stuff like Xvid is out
  • [00:27:56] <jacques> h264 ?
  • [00:28:17] <jacques> should be dsp decoder for it
  • [00:30:53] <thurbad> is that a DivX option?
  • [00:31:57] <jacques> not sure, but it is a mpeg4 option
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  • [00:37:29] <thurbad> I'm just trying to figure out what package to get to do the final encoding.. avidemux for example just says h264 as an mpeg4 option, doesn't say what package it comes from
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  • [00:38:32] <jacques> I can never keep all that straight - some packages use external ffmpeg, some include it
  • [00:39:00] <jacques> and ffmpeg may include its own h264 fork
  • [00:40:08] <thurbad> possibly, but is anything encoded with it licensed for distribution and are there royalties.. that's part of what I need to figure out.. guess google is gonna be my date tonight
  • [00:41:00] <tdh2002> GN all
  • [00:41:22] <jacques> thurbad: oh sorry, I know even less about the patent / licensing situation
  • [00:41:35] <thurbad> no worries
  • [00:42:31] <thurbad> it least knowing that it is well supported possibly even in dsp helps narrow options down
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  • [00:43:17] <jacques> yeah you should be able to find a list of dsp codecs
  • [00:43:36] <jacques> I know I saw one when surfing beagle info in the last few days
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  • [00:48:43] <rew> hi everyone. i'm trying to use buildroot to generate a rootfs for my igep (basically a beagle board). the kernel boots, but gets stuck after the "Freeing init memory" message, with no more output. I've tried the kernel image with another file system, and it works, so it must be something to do with the filesystem generated by buildroot. I'm sure I've had it working before, but i can't figure out why it's getting stuck. anyone had this
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  • [00:52:37] <andruk> Ceriand|work: thanks for the help (forgot to tell you this before)
  • [00:52:48] <Ceriand|work> andruk: np
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  • [01:10:10] <ds2> emeb: no
  • [01:10:34] <ds2> emeb: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.
  • [01:10:34] <ds2> 6.git
  • [01:10:48] <emeb> ds2 - OK thanks!
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  • [01:32:30] <tdh2002> Is that the latest kernel?
  • [01:33:48] <djlewis> ds2, ping
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  • [01:35:58] <ds2> djlewis: pong
  • [01:36:06] <djlewis> good evening ds2
  • [01:36:25] <djlewis> what I mostly have on the 8051 variants is what I pull on chips I find.
  • [01:36:49] <djlewis> http : //www.macronix.com, MX10E8050I, MX10E8050X, MX10E8050IA
  • [01:37:17] <djlewis> macim-ic.com, olde Dallas ds5000 and a Phillips
  • [01:37:38] <ds2> didn't think the maxim/ds and phillips parts have a bootloader...
  • [01:37:57] <djlewis> I have not gotten interested in UV types with parallel programming.
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  • [01:38:27] <djlewis> the phillips I played with is in a old compaq server lcd display unit.
  • [01:38:35] <ds2> the DS parts are EE but I thought it wanted a special tool
  • [01:39:41] <djlewis> just a rs-232 level translater
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  • [01:40:21] <ds2> hmm
  • [01:40:46] <djlewis> I been playing with the old ds5000 I have. erased it in a coup and uploaded a few bytes of code to test
  • [01:40:56] <djlewis> couple of seconds..
  • [01:42:01] <djlewis> mine is a 32kB 12Mhz but works great with a 14.318 xtal.
  • [01:43:07] <ds2> is the DS5000 a 1cyc/inst or a 4 cyc/inst core?
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  • [01:44:35] <djlewis> don't get me lieing, I HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.
  • [01:44:42] <djlewis> darn caps
  • [01:44:48] <ds2> nevermind
  • [01:45:07] <ds2> i know there are 4 and 1 cycle cores out there... the 12cycle ones are mostly dead
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  • [01:45:20] <djlewis> I havent gotten that deep into them so far.
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  • [01:50:34] <DanaG> grr, sucks that the ES sdk isn't just plain straight downloadable.
  • [01:51:33] <DanaG> hmm, igep? what's the price in US?
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  • [01:55:18] <tdh2002> It PM 8:56 in New York!
  • [01:56:23] <buZz> 150 Euros = 204.46500 U.S. dollars
  • [01:57:13] <DanaG> hmm, and after shipping, it would be even more. bummer. /me sticks with beagleboard.
  • [02:00:10] <ds2> beware of the connectors on the IGREP
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  • [03:08:37] <tdh20021> who can supply latest demo for beagle board?
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  • [03:14:27] <slmood> hello
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  • [03:39:22] <tdh20021> dome kernel 2.6.29 USB OTG seems doent work..
  • [03:53:51] <thurbad> there's a newer kernel available on the Angstrom site, dunno if it fixes it... also it's not the default kernel yet
  • [03:54:30] <thurbad> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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  • [04:05:57] <tdh20021> oh bad .. 2.6.32 kernel seems doesnt , the default kernel config for beagle borad USB OTG deoest selectd?
  • [04:06:19] <Brokie> ?
  • [04:06:43] <Brokie> Was english that being smash words together make sentence for pillow?
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  • [04:07:43] <Brokie> Hello Belna?
  • [04:08:07] <thurbad> so did 2.6.32 work? I couldn't tell from your response
  • [04:08:15] <Brokie> me neither
  • [04:08:23] <Brokie> was in awesome brokeded engrish
  • [04:08:25] <Belna> Brokie: hello
  • [04:08:30] <Belna> good morning
  • [04:08:39] <Brokie> Heh low
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  • [04:09:32] <Brokie> DanaG never says anything, he just comes and times out... wtf?
  • [04:09:52] <thurbad> he says stuff occasionally
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  • [04:10:13] <Brokie> Anyone got a decent config file for the 2.6.33?
  • [04:11:14] <Brokie> I get pissed when menuconfig kills the selections me makes
  • [04:11:46] <thurbad> I think sakoman said he was working on 2.6.33
  • [04:12:01] <Brokie> ya, I know
  • [04:12:29] <thurbad> I love seg faults in linux that tell you nothing :D
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  • [04:12:36] <Brokie> I need g_ether, MMC, USB_OTG, Host USB, and keyboard / mouse, and external hard drive support
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  • [04:13:41] <thurbad> what does USB_OTG support entail other than networking through g_ether?
  • [04:13:51] <Brokie> thats it
  • [04:13:53] <Belna> brokie: did you try the linux-omap git tree?
  • [04:13:59] <thurbad> oh
  • [04:14:06] <Brokie> yes
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  • [04:14:16] <Brokie> no keyboard, or no g_ether
  • [04:14:22] <Brokie> I get one ot the other
  • [04:14:34] <Brokie> or*
  • [04:14:44] <thurbad> and by Host USB do you mean over the OTG port?
  • [04:14:50] <Brokie> no
  • [04:15:00] <Brokie> there is no OTG port on the KBOC
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  • [04:15:12] <Brokie> but the asix ethernet IC is on the OTG
  • [04:16:01] <Brokie> the USB port on the KBOC is the plain old school USB EHCI 2.0 port
  • [04:16:36] <Belna> there is an ethernet port on kboc, isn't?
  • [04:16:41] <thurbad> then the only thing I'm not currently using is external hard drive... which I haven't tried yet
  • [04:16:43] <Brokie> IS
  • [04:16:59] <Brokie> there IS a 10/100 Ether port on the KBOC
  • [04:17:02] <Belna> but you want g_ether?
  • [04:17:07] <Brokie> yes
  • [04:17:08] <Brokie> and
  • [04:17:21] <Brokie> I need EHCI USB
  • [04:17:28] <Brokie> so me can used a keyboard
  • [04:17:29] <Brokie> AND
  • [04:17:37] <Brokie> Me needs 720P timing
  • [04:17:41] <Brokie> AND
  • [04:17:50] <Brokie> Me needs to be able to compile it :(
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  • [04:18:15] <Brokie> cuz me needs to make review kernel for product manager to use on similar, but not OMAP board
  • [04:18:24] <Belna> do you habe code sourcery toolchain?
  • [04:18:31] <cweagans> is there a way to make the beagleboard boot from an SD card without having an RS-232 cable handy?
  • [04:18:36] <Brokie> Product manager is using Tegra 20
  • [04:18:41] <Brokie> yes
  • [04:18:43] <Brokie> LOL
  • [04:18:43] <thurbad> I've got all that with a with a powered USB hub in a C4 using the default 2.6.29
  • [04:19:02] <Brokie> good for you
  • [04:19:16] <Brokie> is the ethernet using g_ether module?
  • [04:19:21] <Brokie> on usb otg?
  • [04:19:27] <thurbad> no, I used the bitbak system to build
  • [04:19:35] <thurbad> yup
  • [04:19:45] <Brokie> smash bitbake, use a brick
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  • [04:20:20] <Brokie> i dont want to download and install and configure 20 things to learn a new compile environment, to replace make and amake
  • [04:20:30] <thurbad> yeah I considered Code Sorcery but I don't have the spare cash to purchase it at the moment
  • [04:20:54] <Brokie> thats like telling me to drive a Dodge 2500XLT Lariat, to pick up groceries
  • [04:21:14] <thurbad> maybe.. but it's working :)
  • [04:21:19] <Brokie> nope, me has a yugo, gets 50mpg, to do that
  • [04:21:28] <Brokie> so is make
  • [04:22:03] <Brokie> I had a Honda College Car, but the motor melted
  • [04:23:13] <Brokie> N600 GL
  • [04:23:47] <Brokie> http://www.netcarshow.com/honda/1967-n600/1600x1200/wallpaper_01.htm
  • [04:23:54] <Brokie> That baby got 65mpg
  • [04:24:10] <Brokie> had a top speed of "Hey a snail just passed you..."
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  • [04:26:53] <Brokie> In March, 1967 the Honda N 360 arrived. A front-wheel-drive 2-door sedan with a wheelbase of 200 cm, and a light-alloy OHC air-cooled 2-cylinder 354 cc engine with 31 HP. The rear axle was rigid with leaf springs. In June, 1967 a 2-door wagon was added, called Honda LN 360. In October, 1968 the N 360 T (later called Touring) was released with a 36 HP twin carburettor engine (9000 rpm). In 1969 a version with a 402 cc engine was produced a
  • [04:26:53] <Brokie> nd called the Honda N 400. By January, 1970 the cars were renamed Honda N III 360 and Honda LN III 360.
  • [04:26:54] <Brokie> LOL
  • [04:30:02] <Brokie> I want one of these...
  • [04:30:03] <Brokie> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/96/20081119110448!Nissan_Kix_01.JPG
  • [04:30:57] <Brokie> thurbad, how to setup a bitbake system?
  • [04:31:08] <Brokie> Is difficult to customize a build with bitbake?
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  • [04:36:22] <thurbad> I built a basic X11 image, then install stuff through opkg as needed
  • [04:37:20] <Brokie> Can you tell me how to get started with bitbake?
  • [04:37:37] <Brokie> Like, how many files I will need to modify, and where to get recipes?
  • [04:38:41] <thurbad> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom <- just follow this and you'll be up with an X11 system
  • [04:39:01] <thurbad> or you can stick with the console if you want
  • [04:40:22] <thurbad> the only thing I changed was removed the '?' halfway through when it tels you to add the line 'MACHINE ?= "<your machine>" ' to a conf file
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  • [04:41:44] <thurbad> I gave up on cross compiling though, I build on a full linux box and recompile on the BB itself
  • [04:42:21] <thurbad> mainly because I couldn't get CMAKE working with bitbake
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  • [04:45:54] <thurbad> basically I'm making daily code archives so I can test and make sure that everything really still works on the BB
  • [04:46:49] <tdh20021> thurbad:Can you give me your current.config file?
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  • [04:47:26] <thurbad> which config file?
  • [04:49:03] <tdh2002> thurbad:kernel config file
  • [04:49:26] <thurbad> don't know where it would be
  • [04:50:56] <tdh2002> thurbad::)
  • [04:51:39] <thurbad> if there's a default location for it I'll check
  • [04:51:57] <Brokie> Ok
  • [04:52:07] <Brokie> Ima reinstall ubuntu, give meself some room
  • [04:52:09] <Brokie> ...
  • [04:52:10] <Brokie> BBL
  • [04:52:26] <thurbad> have fun ~.~
  • [04:53:12] <tdh2002> Brokie:Sorry , My Egnlish is not very good.
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  • [05:13:52] <tdh2002> why the kernel Image build by the defconfig in the kernel source is samller than the kernel image download from net?
  • [05:13:53] <tdh2002> one is 1.86M the other is 3.00M
  • [05:14:48] <thurbad> probably different features built into the kernel
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  • [05:23:01] <tdh2002> thurbad: Do you have a kernel config whick can works well with angstrom ?
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  • [05:31:34] <thurbad> I don't know where the configuration would be, but most features seem to be working so far
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  • [07:01:13] <Belna|work> thurbad: .config in your kernel root dir
  • [07:01:21] <Belna|work> that is your config file
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  • [07:02:38] <tdh2002> I use the default config for BB, the LCD display have problem
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  • [07:03:39] <thurbad> what's the problem?
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  • [07:17:22] <tdh2002> thurbad:when booting to the logging interface, the LCD blank screenblank screen
  • [07:18:33] <tdh2002> anyone know how to paste video config to kernel on the kernel command line
  • [07:18:34] <tdh2002> when I use omapfb.video_mode=800x600MR-16@60 ,seem doent work
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  • [07:23:45] <tdh2002> thurbad:when I use omapfb.video_mode=800x600MR-16@60 ,seem doent work. Is it the correct parameter ?
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  • [07:25:58] <tomatoes7> they should make some better documentation on that
  • [07:26:20] <av500> patches welcome
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  • [07:30:33] <thurbad> I use omapfb.mode=dvi:${dvimode} and I've currently got dvimode=1280x720MR-24@60
  • [07:30:56] <tomatoes7> i lost usb connectivity on my board...it used to work and now it doesnt...maybe i have to reflash the nand, i'm a bit stuck
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  • [07:31:14] <tomatoes7> i need a DVI monitor
  • [07:31:30] <thurbad> do you have a crt?
  • [07:31:43] <tomatoes7> yeah
  • [07:31:45] <tdh2002> thurbad:No i use a LCD
  • [07:32:01] <tomatoes7> the oscars were last night? glad i didn't miss anything interesting
  • [07:32:07] <tomatoes7> sorry offtopic
  • [07:32:14] <tdh2002> thurbad: 8.4 inch LCD 800X600
  • [07:32:40] <tomatoes7> hmmm...what's the product tdh2002
  • [07:32:51] <tomatoes7> how much $$$?
  • [07:33:03] <thurbad> tomatoes7, if you restart the BByou need to reset your networking then restart the firewall
  • [07:33:45] <tdh2002> tomatoes7:the product's name of english i even dont konw how to express
  • [07:34:30] <tomatoes7> what what what? i just want it to load a usb hub for step one....then i'll worry about my usb2ethernet adaptor stuff
  • [07:35:04] <tdh2002> tomatoes7:Renminbi 1100= Euro 110
  • [07:35:23] <tomatoes7> tdh2002: ummm do you have like a url for the product?
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  • [07:36:37] <tdh2002> tomatoes7: model number is AUO G084SN45
  • [07:37:11] <tdh2002> G084SN05
  • [07:37:30] <tdh2002> tomatoes7: I have its datasheet do you want?
  • [07:37:36] <tomatoes7> sure
  • [07:37:58] <tdh2002> how transmit to you
  • [07:38:02] <tomatoes7> as long as it doesn't have that 0-day reader hack inside the pdf
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  • [07:38:13] <tomatoes7> uh email
  • [07:38:22] <tdh2002> tell me you email
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  • [07:48:28] <yann361> gm all
  • [07:48:30] <thurbad> what's slower on the BB.. a full screen video or upscaling a smaller video to be full screen?
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  • [07:54:59] <av500> thurbad: upscaling is free
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  • [07:57:15] <thurbad> free?
  • [07:57:35] <raster> fweeee!
  • [07:57:43] <raster> av500: yo yo
  • [07:58:35] <av500> raster: yoyo
  • [07:58:41] <av500> thurbad: free!
  • [07:58:49] <av500> dss unit does it for you for free
  • [07:58:55] <av500> just ask nicely
  • [07:59:08] <dm8tbr> av500: are you in the office today?
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  • [08:00:13] <av500> dm8tbr: until 15h
  • [08:00:24] <av500> or later
  • [08:00:29] <av500> 17h or so
  • [08:02:03] <dm8tbr> hmhm
  • [08:02:16] <dm8tbr> I might only make it around 1700 :/
  • [08:03:19] <av500> k
  • [08:03:27] <av500> or tomorow?
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  • [08:06:45] <siji> /usr/lib/opkg/info/update-modules-dev.postinst: line 4: update-modules: not found
  • [08:06:45] <siji> postinst script returned status 127
  • [08:06:45] <siji> Configuring update-modules-dbg
  • [08:06:45] <siji> /usr/lib/opkg/info/update-modules-dbg.postinst: line 4: update-modules: not found
  • [08:06:45] <siji> postinst script returned status 127
  • [08:06:49] <siji> Collected errors:
  • [08:06:51] <siji> * ERROR: update-modules-dev.postinst returned 127
  • [08:06:53] <siji> * ERROR: update-modules-dbg.postinst returned 127
  • [08:06:57] <siji> Am getting news errors now
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  • [08:17:58] <_koen_> siji: I suspect /sbin and /usr/sbin aren't in your path (e.g. bu doing 'su -' instead of 'su'
  • [08:23:12] <dm8tbr> av500: going to the tuesday meeting. but I'll try be there a bit earlier
  • [08:23:18] <dm8tbr> av500: will keep you posted
  • [08:28:51] <Crofton> _koen_, lots of snow here :)
  • [08:29:43] <Crofton> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Een-cawA0
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  • [08:49:17] <siji> _koen_,ok
  • [08:50:57] <av500> Crofton: nice, u still there?
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  • [09:02:12] <dm8tbr> looks like I'll make it earlier. around 1500 or so
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  • [09:33:44] <topi> anyone familiar with the linux-omap mailing list? and the gmane archives? why do some mails from ti.com seem to get mangled? (they get some hex sequence appended to their From: and In-Reply-to: fields)
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  • [09:48:39] <mobidev> hi to all
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  • [09:58:16] <hrw> _koen_: angstrom-gnome-image is not buildable with OE
  • [09:58:26] <hrw> _koen_: too many missing deps
  • [09:59:00] <_koen_> it builds from scratch over here
  • [10:01:30] <hrw> _koen_: because you have gnome installed on host
  • [10:01:45] <hrw> _koen_: scrollkeeper, gnome docbook stuff etc
  • [10:01:59] <hrw> _koen_: | warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/gnome/xslt/docbook/omf/db2omf.xsl"
  • [10:02:08] <hrw> _koen_: thats zenity
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  • [10:21:27] <tdh2002> Is there anyone can give a verty simply demo can run x system on BB?
  • [10:21:56] <tdh2002> very urgency
  • [10:22:52] <_koen_> tried the angstrom demo?
  • [10:23:57] <tdh2002> _koen_:I tried , it can't work with my 8.4 inch LCD
  • [10:24:52] <tdh2002> _koen_:the latest kernel image from angstom even dont support usb otg
  • [10:27:09] <_koen_> otg works fine over here with that
  • [10:27:47] <tdh2002> _koen_: what version of image you use?
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  • [10:33:04] <Brokie> yay
  • [10:33:20] <Brokie> Got bitbake working...
  • [10:33:23] <XorA> _koen_: did we make it modprobe g-zero on boot yet?
  • [10:33:23] <Brokie> :)
  • [10:34:37] <Brokie> _koen_: Is there a reason why keyboard and mose work on first boot of angstrom, but not on any subsequent boots?
  • [10:34:54] <Brokie> s/mose/mouse
  • [10:35:03] <_koen_> XorA: some other module, but the effect is the same
  • [10:35:24] <_koen_> Brokie: keyboard and mouse works fine here on every boot
  • [10:35:32] <Brokie> not here :(
  • [10:35:45] <Brokie> is KBOC BB2...
  • [10:35:53] <Brokie> Works fine during the install boot
  • [10:35:59] <Brokie> when you create a user
  • [10:36:36] <Brokie> when you restart, the keyboard turns off the numlock light at X starting, and the keyboard no longer works
  • [10:37:20] <Brokie> if I rename gpe-dm to gpe-dm.bak, the keyboard continues to work, untill I call gpe-dm.bak
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  • [10:50:51] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [10:51:11] <_koen_> hey jkridner
  • [10:51:51] <tdh2002> jkridner:hi
  • [10:56:52] <tdh2002> I have trouble anyone can help me...it is so accurate
  • [10:57:38] <jkridner> tdh2002: I can't tell from the tone of your text if you are finding the help you need or not.
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  • [10:58:59] <tdh2002> Sorry! jkridner
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  • [11:11:59] <jkridner> tdh2002: no need to apologize, just help me out to understand what it is you need.
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  • [11:24:56] <tdh2002> jkridner:I want to asn a question, why the kernel image download from angstrom even doent support USB OTG(include the latest one)?
  • [11:32:32] <XorA> tdh2002: Angstrom kernel does support OTG
  • [11:33:16] <tdh2002> XorA:I even try all verions, my BB version is B6
  • [11:33:31] <XorA> tdh2002: do you have any gadget drivers modprobed?
  • [11:34:02] <tdh2002> XorA: how to enable /dev/fb2 /dev/fb1 ?
  • [11:34:24] <XorA> whats that got to do with usb?
  • [11:34:55] <tdh2002> XorA: this is another problem ..
  • [11:35:07] <XorA> ah, well one topic at a time please, Im old :-D
  • [11:35:28] <tdh2002> First I try usb
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  • [11:35:51] <XorA> /dev/fb1 etc will require reading the DSS2 docs, which I havent
  • [11:36:06] * XorA does have OTG on his B6 though
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  • [11:38:02] <tdh2002> XorA :first i try usb,
  • [11:38:19] <XorA> basically OTG only works if there is a usb gadget driver
  • [11:38:28] <XorA> I use g-zero, but g-ether etc all work as well
  • [11:38:49] <tdh2002> XorA:I want OTG be a host
  • [11:39:17] <XorA> tdh2002: OTG means host and client simultaneous, on omap3 it requires a gadget driver to be present
  • [11:40:01] <tdh2002> XorA:if thers is no gadget meas OTG cant use?
  • [11:40:38] <tdh2002> XorA:in my kernel i dont compile gadget , OTG host can work.
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  • [11:40:54] <XorA> tdh2002: you have it set to host mode, not OTG then
  • [11:41:45] <tdh2002> XorA:how to set with the demo image download from angstrom!
  • [11:42:14] <XorA> modprobe g-zero or g-ether or some other gadget
  • [11:43:27] <tdh2002> XorA: oh i know , if i modprobe gadget, then OTG cant be host
  • [11:44:29] <jkridner> tdh2002: it is confusing to me listening to understand what you know and don't know.
  • [11:44:31] <XorA> tdh2002: yes it can
  • [11:44:46] * XorA is getting bored of giving the same instruction now
  • [11:46:58] <tdh2002> :'(
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  • [11:48:19] <jkridner> tdh2002: break it down for us. what are you trying to accomplish, how are you trying to accomplish it, and what happens?
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  • [11:51:51] <tdh2002> tdh2002:I only want demonstrate a system with keyboard an mouse! The board made by us is based on beagle board. when i use the anstrom image the usb device doenst works, when I use the kernel compile by me ,the display is not correct. So
  • [11:52:50] <_koen_> modprobe a usbgadget, doesn't matter which one
  • [11:53:01] <_koen_> like xora has been saying over and over again
  • [11:53:39] <tdh2002> I alse tried sokaman's image, the display resolution ratio cant change
  • [11:54:01] <jkridner> tdh2002: let's focus on one approach at a time.
  • [11:54:01] <_koen_> (12:52:50) _koen_: modprobe a usbgadget, doesn't matter which one
  • [11:54:43] <tdh2002> key problem :only want demonstrate a system with keyboard an mouse!
  • [11:54:52] <jkridner> tdh2002: is your issue on your BB Rev B6 or is it on your board? Have you verified it works on the BB Rev B6?
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  • [11:55:32] <jkridner> tdh2002: what _koen_ and XorA are trying to tell you is that if you follow their steps, it is known to work on a BB Rev B6.
  • [11:55:42] <jkridner> but, you aren't giving feedback on trying their steps.
  • [11:55:50] <jkridner> it seems that you are just trying other things.
  • [11:56:33] <tdh2002> I am try their advise
  • [11:56:43] <jkridner> once you can reproduce their steps, it makes sense to talk about what else doesn't work.
  • [11:56:52] <tdh2002> ok
  • [11:56:56] <jkridner> what happens when you do their steps?
  • [11:57:56] <tdh2002> in this filesytem there is no gadget driver module , i am downloading one
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  • [12:00:14] <_koen_> there's a matching modules.tgz for each uimage in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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  • [12:03:56] <tdh2002> OH MY GOD IT works -.-
  • [12:04:27] <XorA> thankyou, I am GOD :-D
  • [12:04:31] <tdh2002> thank _koen_ jkridner XorA
  • [12:05:17] <tdh2002> my english is poor , XorA understand my meaning
  • [12:07:06] <tdh2002> another question : passing command line mapfb.video_mode="800x600MR-16@60" correct?
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  • [12:09:05] <tdh2002> message :Unknown boot option `omapfb.video_mode=800x600MR-16@60': ignoring
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  • [12:15:44] <nrossi> @tdh2002 - this might help? http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Display_resolutions_.231
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  • [12:19:18] <tdh2002> i use video=omapfb:mode:800x600@60,but still 640x480.
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  • [12:21:01] <tdh2002> It works tks
  • [12:22:00] <Brokie> thanks _koen_, your help was amaing, concise, and exacting
  • [12:22:42] <tdh2002> finat
  • [12:22:53] <tdh2002> faint
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  • [12:30:26] <jkridner> tdh2002: does that mean it is working for you now?
  • [12:30:42] <tdh2002> jkridner: Yes work very well
  • [12:30:49] <jkridner> great!
  • [12:33:04] <tdh2002> there is no net on our borad, otherwise i can use the board chat
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  • [12:40:16] <Brokie> jkridner, since _koen_ is so wonderfully helpful, can you tell me how to resolve the failure to build gtk?
  • [12:40:35] <Brokie> using bitbake
  • [12:40:43] <Brokie> did bitbake x11-image
  • [12:40:50] <Brokie> fail on compile gtk
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  • [12:50:16] <jkridner> what is the error?
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  • [12:54:34] <Brokie> /bin/sh: no: command not found
  • [12:54:58] <Brokie> which causes...
  • [12:55:02] <Brokie> | FATAL: oe_runmake failed
  • [12:55:04] <Brokie> NOTE: Task failed: /stuff/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gtk+-2.18.6-r8.3/temp/log.do_compile.29857
  • [12:55:35] <Brokie> ...
  • [12:55:38] <Brokie> Making all in demos
  • [12:55:40] <Brokie> | make[2]: Entering directory `/stuff/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gtk+-2.18.6-r8.3/gtk+-2.18.6/demos'
  • [12:55:42] <Brokie> | no --raw --build-list \
  • [12:55:44] <Brokie> | apple_red ./apple-red.png \
  • [12:55:46] <Brokie> | gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \
  • [12:55:48] <Brokie> | > test-inline-pixbufs.h \
  • [12:55:50] <Brokie> | || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h && false)
  • [12:55:52] <Brokie> | /bin/sh: no: command not found
  • [12:55:54] <Brokie> | make[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1
  • [12:56:03] <jkridner> pastebin is your friend. :)
  • [12:56:42] <Brokie> it was small enough I didn't think it would hurt here, considering how many times a day 90 people timeout at a time...
  • [12:56:50] <Brokie> I figured, noone would be annoyed
  • [12:57:01] <jkridner> :)
  • [12:57:22] <Brokie> savvy to me error?
  • [12:57:24] <jkridner> I'm not familiar with the command 'no'. I'll need to look that up.
  • [12:57:33] <Brokie> its not a real command
  • [12:57:36] <Brokie> I checked
  • [12:57:37] <ynezz> jkridner: it's a know issue
  • [12:57:43] <ynezz> s/know/known/
  • [12:57:43] <Brokie> wow
  • [12:58:20] <Brokie> so, what your telling me, is 8 people tell me to goto bitbake, so I can run into "Known issues" that dont effect the make environment?
  • [12:58:25] <Brokie> Smoking awesome
  • [12:59:44] <_koen_> if you were paying attention, we pointed you to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom which doens't have that issue
  • [12:59:52] <Brokie> Really?
  • [13:00:00] <Brokie> Hey Koen...
  • [13:00:05] <_koen_> yes, really
  • [13:00:06] <Brokie> Thats what I'm doing
  • [13:00:08] <Brokie> foo
  • [13:00:11] <_koen_> no you don't
  • [13:00:18] <Brokie> note the /stuff/ directory
  • [13:00:34] <_koen_> read the link
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  • [13:00:44] <_koen_> there's no /stuff in those instructions
  • [13:00:53] <_koen_> and it doesn't use the org.openembedded.dev branch
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  • [13:01:36] <Brokie> yep
  • [13:01:50] <Brokie> Koen
  • [13:01:59] <Brokie> do me a favor
  • [13:02:05] <Brokie> Clean up the instructions
  • [13:02:21] <Brokie> I followed the instructions without going to another page the other day
  • [13:02:35] <Brokie> and was told that I need to follow the directions at OE site
  • [13:02:37] <Brokie> Now...
  • [13:02:57] <Brokie> I follow the directions at OE site, and your telling me I fubaxed again
  • [13:03:01] <Brokie> so
  • [13:03:05] <Brokie> CLEAN UP THE INSTRUCTIONS
  • [13:03:15] <Brokie> Fantastic work, confusing me for 19 hours
  • [13:03:19] <Brokie> Awesome job
  • [13:03:22] <av500> Brokie: keep it down
  • [13:03:54] <tdh2002> goodbye everyone ! i get off work
  • [13:04:32] <jkridner> community development is less than perfect, to say the least. the great thing is that people do care and show up. the other great thing is that anyone who sees a problem can get involved and fix it themselves.
  • [13:05:10] <Brokie> and mislead, and act annoyed when you do what they unclearly tell you
  • [13:05:21] <ynezz> well, the .dev in name means development
  • [13:06:08] <Brokie> K
  • [13:06:47] <Brokie> here's my problem
  • [13:06:53] <tdh2002> You some one use QQ ?
  • [13:06:56] <Brokie> and it comes down to tolerance
  • [13:07:15] <Brokie> I came in and asked questions and got RTFM NOOB
  • [13:07:35] <Brokie> so, I RTFM'd, but was told I RTFWM
  • [13:07:47] <Brokie> So, I RTFM I was told to...
  • [13:07:55] <Brokie> AND I'm STILL RTFWM
  • [13:08:00] <Brokie> So
  • [13:08:02] <Brokie> I say...
  • [13:08:55] <Brokie> Stop telling me to RTFM, and tell me how to use what you clearly want me to use, after being smashed in the face with it asking questions about things NOT about bitbake, being told "I dont have that problem using bitbake"
  • [13:08:59] <Brokie> So
  • [13:09:02] <Brokie> WTH?
  • [13:09:30] <Brokie> aint that awesome?
  • [13:09:54] <Brokie> HEY... follow this getting started guide... (We wont tell you where to stop... no, that would be too easy)
  • [13:10:39] <Brokie> When you come back, since we didn't tell you where to stop, your gonna have a smoking hard time getting past these next few steps, so bear with us... (LOL AT YOU)
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  • [13:10:52] <guaqua> i asked here somewhere in january whether the current beagle revision was good. i remember someone saying i should wait for rev d. i presume rev d is out by now?
  • [13:11:06] <ynezz> it's C4
  • [13:12:01] <Brokie> those lines should be added to the angstrom-distribution page, to let noobs to BB and Angstrom know that they are in for a haul, with zero REAL help from anyone anywhere till they learn how to read minds, and grow a clock out of their pitoot
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  • [13:13:01] <guaqua> C4, hmm
  • [13:13:16] <Brokie> continue to /ignore me, its starting to feel normal around here
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  • [13:15:28] <wmat> Brokie: is the elinux.org beagleboard docs + the beagleboard.org docs insufficient?
  • [13:15:53] <Brokie> no
  • [13:15:59] <Brokie> they work fine
  • [13:16:10] <Brokie> I was able to do as expected there
  • [13:17:16] <Brokie> I didn't spend the last 20 years of my life insufflated in code, to be one upped by some stuck up RTFM throwers in ircville
  • [13:17:56] <wmat> um, what?
  • [13:18:12] <Brokie> insufflate, to consume through the nose
  • [13:19:20] <guaqua> there'n obviously something wrong with the instructions. please propose the exact changes to be made and stop complaining
  • [13:19:29] <Brokie> wmat, the FM, in the RTFM, I was sent to read, and follow, is a broken FM, so, telling me to RTFM, is a waste of letters on the screen, and of my time
  • [13:19:44] <Brokie> I would, if I knew what to do...
  • [13:19:51] <Brokie> hence the dilemna
  • [13:21:14] <av500> Brokie: please stop now
  • [13:21:39] <tasslehoff> "I feel pretty, oh so pretty"
  • [13:21:41] <Brokie> Now all of my words are simply responses... if you want me to stop, stop
  • [13:22:27] <XorA> wtf, this is less intelligant than Eliza
  • [13:23:10] <Brokie> Yet, noone is willing to tell me anything
  • [13:23:25] <Brokie> just "RTFM" and "Your a dumbshat"
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  • [13:35:26] <wmat> Brokie: what was your question? Sorry, I don't have time for sb as I'm trying to get my kids off to school.
  • [13:35:59] <Brokie> worry about it later, get your kids to school, and I'm here...
  • [13:36:35] <Brokie> "what was your question" is more helpful than "rtfm"
  • [13:36:41] <Brokie> thank you
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  • [13:45:49] <Brokie> if this breaks 1500 files from now, ima slap koen with a trout
  • [13:45:54] <tdh2002> Hi iam back
  • [13:46:32] <wmat> Brokie: ok, so what was your question?
  • [13:46:47] <Brokie> did you get your kids off to school?
  • [13:46:53] <wmat> yes
  • [13:46:56] <Brokie> good
  • [13:47:25] <tdh2002> wmat:how old is your child?
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  • [13:47:47] <wmat> tdh2002: 8
  • [13:48:03] <wmat> and 4, but she's not in school today
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  • [13:48:22] <tdh2002> wmat:My daughter is two months old!:)
  • [13:49:00] <Brokie> There is no line of distinction on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom, concerning where to stop following directions on http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_Started, and do to the disimilarities in documentation styles, and usage of environment variables, it is not clear where to stop...
  • [13:49:08] <wmat> tdh2002: congrats! enjoy those years, as time flies
  • [13:49:44] <Brokie> 18mo, 6yo, and 7yo, grandkids, here
  • [13:50:36] <XorA> Brokie: in fact it tells you not to follow getting started unless you hit a corner case
  • [13:51:13] <Brokie> yet, the other day, when I spoke with Koen about starting with BB, he jumped my case for not following the wiki
  • [13:51:16] <Brokie> again
  • [13:51:24] <Brokie> NOT CLEAR instructions
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  • [13:52:16] <Brokie> and if you dont follow the wiki, you get an error, reguarding CACHE or PERSISTANT_FILES
  • [13:52:40] <Brokie> if you do fgollow the wiki, koen beats you in the face with a truck bumper
  • [13:53:01] <Brokie> if you dont follow the wiki, Koen smashes your toe with a ball pean hammer
  • [13:53:21] <tdh2002> if everything must do, we will be very tired
  • [13:53:40] <djlewis> I'll repeat a japanese phrase I once read in a technical manual.
  • [13:53:48] <djlewis> to perform this procedure is to understand the nature of it.
  • [13:54:40] <wmat> Brokie: so what is the actual problem you've encountered while following the steps, and at what step? do you have an error msg, or some such?
  • [13:54:41] <Brokie> ergo, the instructions should be unified, so you done have to go jump about the internet... looking for instructions that may or may not change, and may or may not be clear (now that the page is no longer in view) where you are supposed to STOP following these directions, and go back to stage 6, where the action is
  • [13:54:58] <Brokie> if I knew what step... I wouldn't have a friggin problem
  • [13:55:02] <_koen_> (14:51:12) Brokie: yet, the other day, when I spoke with Koen about starting with BB, he jumped my case for not following the wiki
  • [13:55:04] <_koen_> that's a lie
  • [13:55:07] <_koen_> I loathe wikis
  • [13:55:09] <Brokie> Really?
  • [13:55:20] <_koen_> and the angstrom instructions are NOT a wiki for that exact reason
  • [13:55:28] <Brokie> Thank god there is an archive of all the conversations on here
  • [13:55:31] <Brokie> BRB
  • [13:55:47] * wmat likes wikis ;)
  • [13:55:59] <tdh2002> (hm)
  • [13:56:46] <tdh2002> Is there anyone who come from china ?
  • [13:56:54] <tdh2002> ADD my QQ 76869521
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  • [13:58:13] <XorA> tdh2002: whats a QQ?
  • [13:59:05] <Brokie> Koen
  • [13:59:09] <Brokie> http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-03-03
  • [13:59:11] <Brokie> Read carefully
  • [13:59:23] <Brokie> where you tell me to follow the link to the wiki on OE
  • [13:59:29] <tdh2002> XorA:you even dont konw QQ...!
  • [13:59:36] <buZz> http://wiki.jmaustin.org/wiki/FlashOnIGEP , hehe nice
  • [13:59:57] <XorA> tdh2002: I got a ICQ/Yahoo/Aim/MSN/jabber but no QQ :-D
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  • [14:00:32] <tdh2002> XorA:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_QQ
  • [14:00:57] <tdh2002> Tencent QQ, generally referred to as QQ, is the most popular free instant messaging computer program in Mainland China, and currently has over 300 million users.[
  • [14:02:17] <tdh2002> XorA:My msn is 1985bbb@163.com
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  • [14:04:02] <Brokie> To save you time searching...
  • [14:04:06] <Brokie> # [18:26:55] <Brokie> "http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_Started <--- This came long after "your just trolling now""
  • [14:04:08] <Brokie> # [18:28:03] <Brokie> "and was alot easier than the drawn out conversation that included arguing with me about whether or not I could follow unclear instructions"
  • [14:04:10] <Brokie> # [18:29:19] <_koen_> "funny"
  • [14:04:12] <Brokie> # [18:29:20] <adj> "well, instructions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom do work very well. I just tried those, to the letter, and I didn't encounter any problems"
  • [14:04:14] <Brokie> # [18:29:27] <_koen_> "the angstrom page links to that multiple times"
  • [14:04:16] <Brokie> # [18:29:35] <Brokie> "btw, thank you koen, and |nfecteD for your help"
  • [14:04:39] <Brokie> [18:29:27] <_koen_> "the angstrom page links to that multiple times" <---- Lookie thar...
  • [14:04:48] <tdh2002> Do the irc talk recoard can be saves?
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  • [14:05:06] <Brokie> what do you mean tdh2002?
  • [14:05:09] <buZz> tdh2002: copypaste into a textfile ;)
  • [14:05:14] <Brokie> yes
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  • [14:05:23] <XorA> tdh2002: ah interesting, chinese guys invent all the cool stuff these days, Im really loving P2PTV
  • [14:05:38] <wmat> tdh2002: just turn on logging in whatever client you're using
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  • [14:05:47] <Brokie> or go here...
  • [14:06:05] <Brokie> http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php
  • [14:06:30] <_koen_> Brokie: that still doesn't show that I berated you for not following the wiki
  • [14:06:33] <tdh2002> XorA:Who invent you? Tell me , I will talk with he
  • [14:06:44] <Brokie> never said you berated me
  • [14:06:46] <Brokie> I said
  • [14:06:53] <Brokie> YOU TOLD ME TO FOLLOW THE WIKI
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  • [14:06:56] <_koen_> Brokie: it only shows that I needed to point out that the angstrom page (which is not the wiki) like to the wiki you were talking about
  • [14:07:12] <wmat> Brokie: so at what point did the instructions fall over? and what problem did you encounter?
  • [14:07:14] <_koen_> and I told you to follow the angstrom page (which, again, is not a wiki)
  • [14:07:23] <Brokie> and before you told me I wasn't following directions
  • [14:07:36] <Brokie> _koen_ stfu
  • [14:07:36] <XorA> tdh2002: I wasnt invented I grew out of some slime on the road :-D
  • [14:07:40] <Brokie> your not helping me
  • [14:07:53] <Brokie> you dont want to help me
  • [14:08:05] <Brokie> you want to smash me in the face with a broken manual
  • [14:08:10] <tdh2002> I really be disgusted with p2pTV ,because it is too slow
  • [14:08:15] <Brokie> when you wish to help... then speak to me
  • [14:08:26] <tdh2002> XorA: on the road , he is in USA?
  • [14:08:41] <XorA> tdh2002: Im in Scotland in the UK :-)
  • [14:09:00] <tdh2002> XorA:he is the UK,
  • [14:09:04] <Brokie> otherwise... go back to getting further from your roots... not helping, like those who helped you when you needed it
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  • [14:09:16] <tdh2002> XorA: he is in UK..
  • [14:10:11] <XorA> tdh2002: I would guess my form of humour doesnt carry well in translation
  • [14:10:40] <djlewis> XorA, I been there ;)
  • [14:10:53] <tdh2002> XorA: i want travel aboard, but it is too expensive
  • [14:11:12] <Brokie> wmat, the manual is broken, because it requires you to go to another location on the internet and follow directions to an unknown point, before returning
  • [14:11:21] <djlewis> even among my own arkansas speaking people :(
  • [14:11:55] <tdh2002> XorA:Is there someone know little Chinese?
  • [14:12:15] <Brokie> yes
  • [14:12:35] <tdh2002> Brokie:?????????
  • [14:12:46] <wmat> Brokie: i'm confused, are you having an issue with the BB?
  • [14:12:47] <Brokie> yes
  • [14:12:59] <Brokie> no, buitbake
  • [14:13:02] <Brokie> bitbake
  • [14:13:27] <tdh2002> Brokie:?????????????
  • [14:13:31] <Brokie> wo zhidao yidian
  • [14:13:54] <tdh2002> Brokie: ming bai le(??????)
  • [14:14:12] <Brokie> duibuqui?
  • [14:14:16] <djlewis> argh...
  • [14:15:05] <tdh2002> Brokie:more or less,you dont have a chinese input method?
  • [14:15:09] <Brokie> no
  • [14:15:15] <Brokie> I'm american
  • [14:15:55] <tdh2002> Brokie:where do you learn Chinese, self study?
  • [14:15:56] <Brokie> My friend Wu Tao, he teach me some chinese
  • [14:16:12] <Brokie> he is in ghanzhou
  • [14:16:15] <wmat> Brokie: so are you saying the "Obtaining BitBake" section of the Getting Started guide is incomplete or wrong?
  • [14:16:19] <Brokie> I think is how spell it
  • [14:16:26] <Brokie> no
  • [14:16:39] <Brokie> Obtaining bitbake was easy
  • [14:16:54] <tdh2002> Brokie:hangzhou or guangzhou?
  • [14:17:13] <Brokie> guanzhou
  • [14:17:18] <Brokie> For a general introduction to setting up OpenEmbedded, see GettingStarted wiki page. If you run into trouble following the below tutorial, have a look at the GettingStarted wiki page, that contains information on all kinds of cornercases. The tutorial below is kept simple on purpose.
  • [14:17:26] <tdh2002> Brokie:if guangzhou ,i am in guangzhou
  • [14:17:32] <Brokie> heh
  • [14:17:35] <Brokie> Globalsat
  • [14:18:26] <tdh2002> Brokie:what is your friend WU TAO's Profession
  • [14:18:39] <Brokie> engineer
  • [14:19:10] <tdh2002> Brokie:good , he use MSN or QQ? I want make friend with he!
  • [14:19:24] <Brokie> I will ask him, he is on MSN
  • [14:20:09] <tdh2002> we are the same Profession
  • [14:20:23] <wmat> Brokie: i'm still confused about what your actual problem is and I'm out of time. Good luck. Time for work.
  • [14:20:39] <Brokie> kk
  • [14:20:49] <Brokie> I will rewrite suggested instructions
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  • [14:26:41] <Brokie> my suggestion is thus tho, when someone clearly misunderstands the instructions, dont tell them "hey you din't follow the directions" ask them what they did, and tell them where they messed up, it saves alot of agrivation, and helps to make the "community" a "community" instead of a bunch of manual readers.
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  • [14:28:34] <Brokie> tdh2002: you in CE field?
  • [14:28:40] <Brokie> Or STB field?
  • [14:28:59] <tdh2002> Brokie:CE mean what STB meas what?
  • [14:29:08] <Brokie> STB means Set Top Box
  • [14:29:15] <Brokie> CE means Consumer Electronics
  • [14:29:43] <tdh2002> Industry
  • [14:29:56] <tdh2002> medical treatment
  • [14:30:02] <Brokie> tdh2002: you work for a manufacturer? or Design firm?
  • [14:30:11] <Brokie> add me MSN
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  • [14:30:37] <tdh2002> for manufacturer
  • [14:31:00] <Brokie> I sent PM, add me MSN
  • [14:31:41] <tdh2002> but we also design
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  • [14:32:02] <Brokie> tdh2002: I sent PM, add my msn
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  • [15:14:46] <buZz> let's see if the current kernel @ git.myigep has svideo support :)
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  • [15:51:33] <sakoman> _koen_: do your pam commits fix the g-s-t policy issues?
  • [15:52:11] <Brokie> hello sakoman
  • [15:52:21] <Brokie> thanks for your help the other day, invaluable
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  • [15:52:28] <sakoman> gm Brokie
  • [15:52:41] <Brokie> ya, its late...
  • [15:52:50] <djlewis_> gm all
  • [15:52:59] <Brokie> 10:52am.... suns rising, time for bed...
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  • [15:53:36] <_koen_> sakoman: it might, haven't checked
  • [15:53:39] <djlewis_> Brokie: got you native soil? ;)
  • [15:53:51] <Brokie> Native soil?
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  • [15:54:06] <Brokie> Kersplain pls, me lost bout soil of nativity
  • [15:54:36] <_koen_> sakoman: about those uboot patches... ;)
  • [15:54:37] <sakoman> _koen_: build in progress, I'll see soon enough I guess
  • [15:54:41] <Brokie> in my yard, there is soil, that is surely native to the area
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  • [15:55:00] <sakoman> _koen_: well, no XM on my front step yet
  • [15:55:36] <Brokie> those u-boot patches were awesome
  • [15:55:44] <_koen_> sakoman: :)
  • [15:55:53] <sakoman> once it is there I will test the patches, add what is necessary and push
  • [15:56:06] <sakoman> _koen_: I expect it today or tomorrow
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  • [15:56:35] <sakoman> support for the extra memory will require x-load changes too
  • [15:56:40] <Brokie> djlewis_: what exactly are you asking me "Native Soil"?
  • [15:56:51] <djlewis_> Brokie: just joking about sleeping by day and mucking about at night, vampires and all that ;)
  • [15:57:00] <sakoman> Brokie: what u-boot patches? I'm confused!
  • [15:57:07] <Brokie> no, just dont like daylight a whole lot
  • [15:57:21] <Brokie> Sorry, X-loader patches
  • [15:58:22] <Brokie> if you were an ugly woman with leprosy, I'd give ya a mercy drilling for those, fer sher
  • [15:59:43] <Brokie> how many locals is this thing gonna bang out?
  • [16:00:03] <Brokie> s/locals/locales
  • [16:05:34] <sakoman> _koen_: still no joy with g-s-t "Not authorized to make changes"
  • [16:07:32] <Brokie> sakoman: what exactly you trying to change?
  • [16:08:08] <XorA> sakoman: gnome has detected your a kernel guy and is denying those dodgy kernel practices :-)
  • [16:08:42] <sakoman> Brokie: anything using gnome-system-tools
  • [16:08:50] <sakoman> XorA: it feels that way!
  • [16:09:09] <XorA> sakoman: I havent had time to boot my board to try and repeat :-(
  • [16:09:29] <Brokie> Is it a SUID thing?
  • [16:09:29] <sakoman> sakoman: I remember having a similar issue when I first did the gnome recipes, but I don't remember what I did to fix it last time
  • [16:09:52] <sakoman> Brokie: no -- likely pam or policykit
  • [16:10:14] <sakoman> it cropped up with the change to the new version of policykit
  • [16:10:15] <Brokie> talking to yourself causes blindness, senility, and blisters, or is that masturbation?
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  • [16:10:30] <Brokie> same thing I guess
  • [16:11:01] <sakoman> no one listens, so perhaps I am always talking to myself :-)
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  • [16:11:59] <sakoman> that is one of the dangers of using tab completion for names :-) if you type the wrong first character and don't pay attention you can look foolish!
  • [16:12:03] <Brokie> shh, he's back
  • [16:13:18] <Brokie> halfway to the breaking point...
  • [16:13:37] <Brokie> NOTE: Running task 814 of 4682 (ID: 821, /stuff/openembedded/recipes/curl/curl-native_7.19.6.bb, do_configure)
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  • [16:16:01] <Brokie> I saw someone write RAIN like 2000 times.... and the server kicked them for flooding.... I lol'd
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  • [16:38:46] <Brokie> isa back...
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  • [16:52:44] <Brokie> ...
  • [16:52:47] <Brokie> http://pastebin.ca/1830223
  • [16:52:49] <Brokie> Broke sooner
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  • [16:58:33] <djlewis_> Brokie: did you start by building the console image just to test your OE setup?
  • [16:58:48] <Brokie> yep
  • [16:58:53] <djlewis_> it work?
  • [16:58:56] <Brokie> build nano
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  • [16:59:07] <Brokie> build nano works
  • [16:59:12] <Brokie> build console works
  • [16:59:26] <Brokie> build x11-image breaks right there
  • [16:59:44] <Brokie> its 912 steps in...
  • [17:00:01] <Brokie> not like it broke immediately, took 2 hours to break
  • [17:00:27] * djlewis_ 's first console image build was 11 hours :(
  • [17:00:45] <Brokie> core2 quad extreme :)
  • [17:00:58] <djlewis_> I live with hand me downs..
  • [17:01:04] <Brokie> me too
  • [17:01:15] <djlewis_> my best at present is a AMD 3800+ X2
  • [17:01:30] <Brokie> I got a 5400 CPU for ya...
  • [17:01:42] <djlewis_> sounds good
  • [17:01:42] <Brokie> 5400+ AM2
  • [17:01:50] <Brokie> I dont use it no more
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  • [17:02:18] <Brokie> its a brisbane, so it should go right where your 3800+ is now
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  • [17:03:07] <djlewis_> the latest Intel capable board I have is a core 2 duo of the 6300 days
  • [17:03:17] <Brokie> eesh
  • [17:03:24] <djlewis_> yep
  • [17:03:30] <Brokie> slightest one I have is a t9400
  • [17:03:35] <djlewis_> so my BB seems fast ;)
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  • [17:04:03] <Brokie> I have a T9400 in an HP buisiness laptop
  • [17:04:13] <djlewis_> did you look here? ERROR: log data follows (/home/default/OE/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libgcrypt-1.4.1-r0/temp/log.do_compile.6986)
  • [17:04:15] <Brokie> 2GB ram, 160GB hard drive
  • [17:04:22] <Brokie> no
  • [17:04:26] <Brokie> sec...
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  • [17:06:27] <Brokie> arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: link: `mpi-add.lo' is not a valid libtool object
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  • [17:09:08] <thurbad> Brokie, the first image broke on me too, just move on to the next
  • [17:09:40] <thurbad> it builds enough to move on
  • [17:09:53] <Brokie> nope... dies there
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  • [17:10:21] <Brokie> found problem, and fixed
  • [17:10:32] <Brokie> all the .o files in that folder 0 length
  • [17:10:44] <Brokie> Deleted, and deleted all 0 length .lo files
  • [17:10:44] <thurbad> you must have had a different problem then
  • [17:10:51] <Brokie> Started build again
  • [17:10:56] <Brokie> Yep, reboot...
  • [17:11:38] <Brokie> 2^4 too many threads running, reduced to 2^2
  • [17:12:12] <djlewis_> gone are the days of a simple single core ...
  • [17:12:32] <Brokie> ya, I have a server in Tampa, with 16 cores
  • [17:12:42] <Brokie> that was something in 2003
  • [17:13:04] <Brokie> 3.0GHz Xeon HT 8 way
  • [17:13:21] <Brokie> dims the power for blocks turning it on
  • [17:13:23] <djlewis_> hmmm, cook meals wit that..
  • [17:13:34] <Brokie> nope... cool as a cuke
  • [17:13:47] <Brokie> but thats cuza the 8 fans inside...
  • [17:14:00] <Brokie> forcing air through the body like a jet...
  • [17:14:14] <Brokie> 4cm fans always loud
  • [17:15:29] <djlewis_> those intel 1U servers can sure make noise
  • [17:16:04] <djlewis_> ooh, the sun may make it out today.
  • [17:19:16] <Brokie> djlewis
  • [17:19:30] <Brokie> the mpi-* files are all 0 length after compile
  • [17:19:40] <Brokie> mpi-*.o
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  • [17:20:26] * djlewis_ can offer onlly simple OE help. I start with the errors and google for more
  • [17:20:35] <djlewis_> more help
  • [17:20:58] <buZz> maybe disk is full? :)
  • [17:21:02] <Brokie> nope
  • [17:21:10] <Brokie> 160GB, 121GB free
  • [17:22:40] <Brokie> is there a WAY TO START JUST THAT PART OVER?
  • [17:22:46] <Brokie> sorry caps
  • [17:24:07] <thurbad> does gstreamer significantly help video playback?
  • [17:24:13] <Brokie> YES
  • [17:24:23] <Brokie> significantly
  • [17:24:26] <Brokie> sec...
  • [17:24:59] <thurbad> good 'cuz the video I need is stuttering slightly
  • [17:26:38] <djlewis_> Brokie: iirc bitbake picks up where it succeeded to.
  • [17:27:18] <Brokie> yes
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  • [17:27:29] <Brokie> I want to CLEAN the failed part
  • [17:27:33] <Brokie> but not the rest
  • [17:27:38] <djlewis_> dunno
  • [17:28:32] <XorA> djlewis_: we have some dual quad core 1U servers that you could use as hand driers :-)
  • [17:29:03] <Brokie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PNJaD9wIxg
  • [17:29:09] <djlewis_> XorA: thank you for the generous offer BUT! no thanks, we have plenty.
  • [17:29:21] <Brokie> Same video is 5fps without the DSP codecs
  • [17:29:24] <djlewis_> my hearing is already damaged from having to sit next to one for too long.
  • [17:29:41] * XorA wishes they werent wasted on cad software and could beturned to OE :-
  • [17:29:45] <XorA> :-D
  • [17:30:01] <XorA> djlewis_: sound insulated cabinet here, so much nicer
  • [17:30:28] <djlewis_> XorA: these guys I work with finally let me put it in a closet and it still screams.
  • [17:30:50] <Brokie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnDpH3543Q&NR=1 <-- impossible without SIMD
  • [17:30:58] <XorA> djlewis_: http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/ucoustic_active.asp
  • [17:31:20] <XorA> really nice but you wouldnt want to carry it
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  • [17:33:59] <ynezz> Brokie: bitbake -c clean broken_part
  • [17:34:34] <ynezz> Brokie: when debugging something, it's always better/faster to run bitbake in interactive mode 'bitbake -i'
  • [17:35:00] <ynezz> Brokie: and then you can just do 'rebuild package'
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  • [17:35:54] <ynezz> Brokie: http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html
  • [17:36:09] <Brokie> bitbake --help
  • [17:36:12] <Brokie> :)
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  • [17:37:52] <ynezz> Brokie: + examples
  • [17:37:56] <Brokie> smash the interwebs for you!
  • [17:38:03] <Brokie> I saw...
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  • [17:41:43] * djlewis_ will be installing another OE for Angstrom soon.
  • [17:41:54] <djlewis_> is this recommended to use? http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_Started
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  • [17:43:37] <Brokie> i followed that, and others said I should have stopped at an undetermined time, and gone back to the building page
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  • [17:46:31] <ynezz> djlewis_: or this http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [17:47:08] <djlewis_> ynezz: I can try that one again. last year it did not work for me but I understand it has been edited since.
  • [17:47:48] <djlewis_> Last year I used a WIKI that worked but then got deleted.
  • [17:48:42] <ynezz> as I see it, it's so easy to setup, that I don't believe, that it won't work
  • [17:48:44] <ynezz> :)
  • [17:50:00] <Brokie> guys, it keeps breaking building libgcrypt, in the mpi folder same way
  • [17:50:04] <Brokie> I clean
  • [17:50:11] <Brokie> I remove the downloaded archive...
  • [17:50:24] <ynezz> what are you trying to build?
  • [17:50:27] <Brokie> Cannot think how to figure what makes it make 0 length .o files
  • [17:50:28] <ynezz> it's stable/2009 ?
  • [17:50:36] <Brokie> console-image
  • [17:50:50] <ynezz> yes, but what OE branch
  • [17:50:56] <Brokie> 2008.1
  • [17:50:56] <ynezz> stable/dev
  • [17:51:45] <Brokie> BBFILES = "/stuff/openembedded/recipes/*/*.bb"
  • [17:51:47] <Brokie> DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1"
  • [17:51:49] <Brokie> MACHINE = "beagleboard"
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  • [17:51:51] <Brokie> OS = "linux"
  • [17:52:00] <ynezz> do you know pastebin?
  • [17:52:04] <Brokie> yes
  • [17:53:25] <Brokie> http://www.pastebin.ca/1830341
  • [17:53:29] <Brokie> eesh
  • [17:54:05] <ynezz> cd oe, git remote show origin | grep -i head
  • [17:54:15] <ynezz> s/,/;/
  • [17:55:30] <ynezz> cd /stuff/openembedded; git remote show origin | grep -i head
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  • [17:58:19] <Brokie> dangit, I deleted the dev...
  • [17:59:22] <ynezz> do you're building org.openembedded.dev branch, or stable/2009?
  • [17:59:36] <Brokie> said head openembeeded.dev
  • [17:59:41] <ynezz> where?
  • [17:59:53] <Brokie> git clone git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded.git openembedded
  • [18:00:07] <ynezz> ok
  • [18:00:23] <Brokie> git remote show origin | grep -i head <-- Response was showing DEV
  • [18:00:42] <Brokie> HEAD org.openembedded.dev
  • [18:00:50] <ynezz> d'oh, but did you wrote it here? no
  • [18:00:57] <Brokie> no
  • [18:01:04] <Brokie> I used above git clone cmd
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  • [18:06:52] <florian> hi prpplague
  • [18:08:35] <Brokie> thats different for sure
  • [18:09:30] <prpplague> florian: hey
  • [18:10:05] * florian -> home, bbiab
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  • [18:17:23] <Brokie> ynezz: its working now
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  • [18:24:57] <ds2> Morning!
  • [18:25:34] <djlewis_> gm ds2
  • [18:27:21] <Brokie> gm ds2
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  • [18:28:20] * djlewis_ is knee deep in trojan's virus's, dead pwr supplies and blown motherboards...
  • [18:28:37] <Brokie> umm, this is now building a 2.6.23 kernel?
  • [18:28:50] <djlewis_> hmm, kinda old
  • [18:28:52] <Brokie> no newer kernel?
  • [18:29:23] <djlewis_> if it was setup correctly it would be doing the latest stable, I assume 2.6.28
  • [18:29:32] <Brokie> ...
  • [18:29:35] <mru> that's not "kinda old"
  • [18:29:55] <mru> rock 'n roll is "kinda old", that's pre-historic
  • [18:29:56] <djlewis_> not for someone that hasn't rebooted his BB's since back then ;)
  • [18:29:58] <Brokie> If someone would tell me HOW to set it up correctly, I would probably shut up, and disappear for awhile
  • [18:30:11] <mru> .23 didn't even run on beagle
  • [18:30:17] <Brokie> ...
  • [18:30:25] <mru> not without some heavy patching
  • [18:31:01] <Brokie> Am I supposed to build Angstrom 2008.1 or Angstrom 2008.1-legacy?
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  • [18:31:22] <mru> 2.6.23 was released in oct 2007
  • [18:31:27] <mru> there wasn't even a beagle then
  • [18:31:30] <Brokie> THIS is why I HATE bitbake
  • [18:31:37] <djlewis_> and the source is still out there?
  • [18:31:37] <Brokie> good old make...
  • [18:31:42] <Brokie> I miss it
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  • [18:31:56] <Brokie> grap the source you need, ./configure --options....
  • [18:32:04] <Brokie> make target
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  • [18:32:07] <Brokie> done
  • [18:32:11] <djlewis_> with a grapple hook?
  • [18:32:18] <Brokie> grab
  • [18:32:21] <djlewis_> :)
  • [18:32:23] <Brokie> I'm a little peaved
  • [18:32:30] <djlewis_> no....
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  • [18:32:42] <Brokie> your right, I'm alot peaved
  • [18:33:17] <Brokie> Umm...
  • [18:34:04] <Brokie> djlewis_: can you tell me what I done wrong here?
  • [18:34:07] <Brokie> http://pastebin.ca/1830341
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  • [18:35:48] <djlewis_> Brokie: hmm, looks like a set of directions you pasted.
  • [18:36:11] <Brokie> no
  • [18:36:15] <Brokie> its the local.conf
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  • [18:36:39] <djlewis_> I think my local.conf has about five lines..
  • [18:36:55] <Brokie> I see the prob
  • [18:37:00] <Brokie> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers = "2.6.23"
  • [18:37:07] <djlewis_> cool
  • [18:37:17] <Brokie> in angstrom 2008.1.conf
  • [18:38:08] <Brokie> wth is this...
  • [18:38:12] <Brokie> OLDEST_KERNEL ?= "2.6.16"
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  • [18:41:12] <kainz> got a LCD header question: is the omap3530 capable of driving the LCD pins to run a display at 1680x1050 (skipping the tfp410), or is the 1280x1024 limitation in the processor?
  • [18:42:10] <kainz> i've seen conflicting specs on the omap3530 itself
  • [18:44:37] <adj> Brokie, why do you use bitbake if you don't like it? You can of course use just make to build your system
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  • [18:45:10] <Brokie> cuz anytime I ask for help fookers say "Use bitbake, I never have that problem when I use bitbake"
  • [18:45:24] <Brokie> so, I'm wearing it out, or learning it...
  • [18:46:37] * djlewis_ builds small to medium apps on his BB. Bitbakes some things.
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  • [19:22:29] <djlewis_> I have frustrated moments that generate strange sounds from my mouth that I can't spell.
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  • [19:22:55] <emeb> glarblemgrfff
  • [19:22:57] <djlewis_> but if I could I might be able to better express my level of frustration ...
  • [19:23:05] <djlewis_> thats pretty close
  • [19:23:14] <emeb> what's buggin
  • [19:23:20] <emeb> ..you
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  • [19:23:55] <djlewis_> 12:28:19 PM) ***djlewis_ is knee deep in trojan's virus's, dead pwr supplies and blown motherboards...
  • [19:24:06] <djlewis_> but it pays.. :)
  • [19:24:22] <emeb> Oooh. Big fun. Not so fun when someone is waiting for you though.
  • [19:26:30] <djlewis_> the windoze 7 install is going well :)
  • [19:27:21] <ds2> any blown motherboards with a big hole burnt into it?
  • [19:27:46] <djlewis_> ds2: mostly big swollen leaky electrolytics..
  • [19:28:23] <emeb> Mmmmm... tasty electrolytes.
  • [19:30:08] <djlewis_> I have had laptops with burn holes though.
  • [19:30:50] <ds2> i miss those AMD days with the big burnt holes
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  • [19:42:05] <Brokie> wow, old PC's or just bad power supplies causing those swollen caps?
  • [19:42:37] <Brokie> they normally dont do that till they over 5 yo
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  • [19:43:56] <Brokie> hi |nfected
  • [19:44:13] <|nfecteD> 'lo
  • [19:44:23] <Brokie> finally got bb workin seems
  • [19:44:32] <Brokie> had some help, other than the lead...
  • [19:44:32] <|nfecteD> around 2001/2002 every other motherboard blew up :P
  • [19:44:47] <|nfecteD> great! now build stuff for me!
  • [19:44:49] <|nfecteD> hurrhurr
  • [19:44:54] <Brokie> hurrr...
  • [19:45:56] <|nfecteD> try building something like... snes9x
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  • [19:46:08] <|nfecteD> always fails horribly here
  • [19:46:14] <|nfecteD> except one time...
  • [19:46:20] <|nfecteD> for some strange reason
  • [19:47:26] <muriani> snes9x?
  • [19:47:51] <|nfecteD> snes9x.
  • [19:47:59] <muriani> it's always failed for me on the beagle, no DGA, and I never can manage to find working source for snes9x-sdl
  • [19:48:07] <|nfecteD> Super Nintendo emulator
  • [19:48:15] <|nfecteD> same here
  • [19:48:16] <muriani> I know what it is.
  • [19:48:21] <muriani> heh
  • [19:48:24] <|nfecteD> (just the way you asked)
  • [19:48:26] <|nfecteD> anyway
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  • [19:48:45] <|nfecteD> got the GTK version to build fine
  • [19:48:51] <muriani> yeah
  • [19:48:53] <|nfecteD> can't get it to run anything tho
  • [19:48:53] <muriani> I did once as well
  • [19:48:56] <muriani> right
  • [19:48:59] <|nfecteD> blargh
  • [19:49:02] <muriani> haha
  • [19:49:11] <muriani> At least I'm not alone in this, heh
  • [19:49:19] <|nfecteD> and that was 80% the reason i got the damn beagle
  • [19:50:38] <muriani> hahaha
  • [19:50:50] <|nfecteD> but... the openpandora release is pretty close so when that stuff starts rolling we'll be swimming in emulators
  • [19:50:59] <muriani> heh
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  • [19:52:41] <muriani> frankly, I was expecting openpandora to have already happened by now.
  • [19:52:48] <|nfecteD> so did everyone
  • [19:53:25] <|nfecteD> (that gave a sh**)
  • [19:53:34] <|nfecteD> i do since i've ordered one
  • [19:53:36] <djlewis_> Brokie: yep, still have a lot of bad caps in 3 - 4 year old power supplies in just about everything.
  • [19:53:43] <muriani> huh
  • [19:53:52] <muriani> apparently mass production of the furst run has started
  • [19:54:05] <|nfecteD> not before the 22nd i think
  • [19:54:12] <|nfecteD> no wait...
  • [19:54:16] <|nfecteD> thats the assemblu
  • [19:54:22] <|nfecteD> assembly even
  • [19:54:23] <|nfecteD> rawr
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  • [19:54:53] <muriani> according to their status page, MP's started on the boards. Case and keymat were supposed to start after chinese new year
  • [19:54:57] <muriani> so soon, if not already
  • [19:55:33] <muriani> Software's still not quite there yet.
  • [19:55:49] <|nfecteD> i know
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  • [19:56:23] <djlewis_> those the little omap netbooks I was reading about getting ready for production pver a year ago?
  • [19:56:40] <|nfecteD> might be
  • [19:56:45] <djlewis_> The ol get your order in early and wait...
  • [19:56:47] <muriani> Oriented toward gaming, yeah
  • [19:57:04] <muriani> dual analogue sticks, dpad+buttons, etc
  • [19:58:24] <djlewis_> sounds a bit different. THis one had no sticks, just keyboard. Was built around beagleboard style
  • [19:58:30] <muriani> ah
  • [19:58:38] <djlewis_> Yep I see a video of it now.
  • [19:58:40] <muriani> you may be thinking of the touchbook?
  • [19:58:51] <djlewis_> could be.
  • [19:59:04] <|nfecteD> http://www.open-pandora.org/
  • [19:59:08] <|nfecteD> render of it anyway
  • [19:59:20] <djlewis_> THere is a prototype video with scotch tape holding it together.
  • [19:59:45] <djlewis_> nothing on the screen...
  • [20:00:01] <|nfecteD> atleast 7 pandora's exist in a pretty finished state =P
  • [20:00:05] <|nfecteD> no tape
  • [20:00:10] <|nfecteD> hoho
  • [20:00:18] <djlewis_> http://gizmodo.com/5141479/pandora-handheld-gaming-computer-prototype-revealed
  • [20:00:51] <djlewis_> the second video looks more promising :)
  • [20:00:58] <djlewis_> it boots
  • [20:01:05] <prpplague> i saw one of the pcbs over at circuitco awhile back, looked pretty dandy
  • [20:01:11] <muriani> last I saw it was running angstrom
  • [20:01:19] <djlewis_> this second vid shows it
  • [20:01:54] <|nfecteD> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QUDH-Ii8Cc&feature=player_embedded
  • [20:02:08] <djlewis_> batman doesn't play well in heavy traffic.
  • [20:02:14] <|nfecteD> thats what it looks like now
  • [20:03:07] <|nfecteD> no wait... that doesn't show the controls and keyboard
  • [20:03:08] <|nfecteD> blargh
  • [20:04:00] <|nfecteD> shows the touchscreen tho
  • [20:04:38] <DanaG> weird... the rcn-ee 2.6.33 kernel doesn't get any input from the "twl4030_powerbutton" input device.
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  • [20:07:19] <djlewis_> pandora looks like what prpplague had in mind with his LCD option ;)
  • [20:12:01] <torpor> i have a touchbook, any q's just ask
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  • [20:16:28] <prpplague> djlewis_: showdog isn't as robust as the pandora
  • [20:16:42] <prpplague> djlewis_: showdog is more to get a general idea for proof-of-concept stuff
  • [20:20:40] <djlewis_> prpplague: you didn't catch the wink.. I was thinking of the joystick and 4 buttons days. I was joking.
  • [20:21:10] <prpplague> ahh
  • [20:21:40] <djlewis_> prpplague: so how you doing, haven't heard much out of you lately.
  • [20:21:59] <prpplague> djlewis_: very busy with a project
  • [20:22:11] <djlewis_> I see.
  • [20:22:14] <|nfecteD> anyone know if theres a android version that works on the beagle that uses the video hardware? Not 3d, but atleast 2D acceleration
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  • [21:06:24] <muriani> 0xDroid looked like it would be pretty smooth
  • [21:06:34] <muriani> but I couldn't really get it running well
  • [21:06:52] <muriani> and embinux's eclair at least was slow, even at 800x480
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  • [21:36:27] * buZz messing around with board-igep0020.c
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  • [21:43:15] <buZz> wish it was as fruitfull as i wanted it to be :D
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  • [22:15:52] <buZz> well, i'm done :(
  • [22:16:01] * buZz hopes the ISEE guys will pick up his work
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  • [22:17:16] <arathald> hi all
  • [22:19:05] <sakoman> buZz: so does svideo work now?
  • [22:19:16] <arathald> I noticed in the block diagram in the beagleboard documentation that the OMAP3530 RAM has 2MB of 'Public' memory and 64MB of 'Secure' memory, but I haven't been able to find what these terms mean. Could anyone explain this or point me in the direction of where I can find more information on these two different kinds of memory?
  • [22:19:40] <buZz> sakoman: nope :/
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  • [22:19:48] <buZz> sakoman: although it looks ok from userland
  • [22:19:53] <buZz> sakoman: http://myigep.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=302&p=1180#p1180
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  • [22:20:12] <arathald> I'm guessing these have different terms that would make searching for them easier? simple searching for any related terms brings up nothing useful
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  • [22:20:36] <arathald> s/64MB/62MB/
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  • [22:21:23] <Brokie> yes
  • [22:21:26] <Brokie> 0xdroid
  • [22:22:07] <Brokie> |nfected, earlier you asked... "|nfecteD: anyone know if theres a android version that works on the beagle that uses the video hardware? Not 3d, but atleast 2D acceleration"
  • [22:22:13] <Brokie> Answer is 0xdroid
  • [22:22:20] <Brokie> Also, embinix
  • [22:27:49] <arathald> ermmm... and s/MB/KB/
  • [22:29:19] <buZz> sakoman: see anything that might be wrong with that board-igep0200.c file? :)
  • [22:29:55] <jacques> hey, maybe one day the pdk will support linux - under known issues "Linux is not currently supported."
  • [22:30:00] <sakoman> buZz: what version of the kernel is that for?
  • [22:30:03] <jacques> sorry wrong window
  • [22:30:07] <buZz> sakoman: 2.6.33
  • [22:30:43] <buZz> the 'master' branch of http://git.myigep.com/gitweb?p=pub/scm/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
  • [22:30:53] <buZz> but it'll probably work with stock 2.6.33
  • [22:31:44] <sakoman> buZz: dunno -- you could compare to the one I did for 2.6.32:
  • [22:31:46] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-igep0020.c;h=a4f8ca804852bae3ab34706c29626cb1bfc7f8ac;hb=refs/heads/omap3-2.6.32
  • [22:31:57] <buZz> ah tnx
  • [22:32:27] <sakoman> there will be some version diffs, but they should be minor
  • [22:32:38] <sakoman> twl naming, etc
  • [22:32:55] <muriani> Brokie: I didn't get anything resembling accelerated video with embinux
  • [22:33:15] <muriani> if it was accelerated, it was still almost unusably slow
  • [22:33:19] <arathald> hmm... apparently not, and I've got to run. posted the question to the TI forums
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  • [22:34:10] <muriani> Brokie: I'd answered those, but you weren't here at the time, heh
  • [22:34:31] <buZz> sakoman: guess i could copy your igep2_panel_enable_tv() etc
  • [22:34:32] <Brokie> you have to put the GST plugins
  • [22:34:35] <buZz> mine are just empty
  • [22:34:46] <Brokie> when you do, it sees them, and uses them
  • [22:35:05] <muriani> that's acceleration for decoding
  • [22:35:37] <Brokie> yes, but in order to use the accelerated decoding, you have to have the TI framebuffer
  • [22:35:44] <Brokie> works wonders
  • [22:35:47] <Brokie> also
  • [22:36:07] <andruk> on this page: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation when it says "NOTE: If the board is a Rev C4, use the files located here <link>", exactly which files should i be using from the <link>?
  • [22:36:13] <Brokie> if you make sure starts in 16 bit mode
  • [22:36:48] <muriani> I had uboot set to boot it in 24bit
  • [22:37:00] <muriani> as per the instructions, IIRC
  • [22:37:28] <Brokie> set to 16 bit mode
  • [22:37:31] <Brokie> 1 time
  • [22:38:54] <muriani> I usually have omapfb.mode=dvi:800x480MR-24@60 in my bootargs
  • [22:39:13] <muriani> so I should change that to 800x480MR-16?
  • [22:39:53] <Brokie> @60, yes
  • [22:39:57] <Brokie> do it one time
  • [22:40:01] <Brokie> and smile
  • [22:40:48] <muriani> well bugger, now I have to get my android rootfs reloaded
  • [22:41:22] <muriani> ah well, it's something to do for the next hour or so
  • [22:41:37] <muriani> since I'm BORED AS HELL
  • [22:42:50] <Brokie> devmem2 0x48004b40 w 0 enables 110MHZ SVR
  • [22:48:27] <Brokie> Follow directions in this tut
  • [22:48:31] <Brokie> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowtoUseSGXunderAngstrom
  • [22:48:41] <Brokie> it works under Android too
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  • [23:02:08] <buZz> sakoman: doesnt help :(
  • [23:02:43] <sakoman> too bad
  • [23:02:48] <buZz> [ 487.039001] omapdss MANAGER error: configure_overlay 1 failed
  • [23:02:49] <buZz> hmm
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  • [23:03:05] <sakoman> buZz: essentially identical code works on other boards
  • [23:03:55] <buZz> it should :)
  • [23:04:15] <buZz> man, i hope the ISEE guys finally do something with this :/
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  • [23:13:46] <emeb> Trying to compile a kernel with CodeSourcery arm-2007q3 & it complains about unwind. What version of gcc is approved for this?
  • [23:16:31] <prpplague> emeb: read the fine print, you need at least gcc 4.4 from codesourcery to support cortex-a8 iirc
  • [23:18:24] <emeb> prpplague - thnx. Guess I'll bag that toolchain & hunt for another one. Maybe there's a way to use the arm gcc that OE built the other night...
  • [23:20:12] <prpplague> emeb: just get the updated codesourcery toolchain
  • [23:21:20] <emeb> OK - I'll check for it. Thnks....
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  • [23:27:05] <emeb> (appears my mistake in getting 2007q3 stems from using an old HOWTO - now D/Ling 2009q3...)
  • [23:30:12] <emeb> Ahhhh - that's better.
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  • [23:37:00] <gabry> hi all
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  • [23:38:43] <mru> emeb: don't use 2009q3
  • [23:38:45] <mru> it's crap
  • [23:38:48] <mru> use 2009q1
  • [23:39:52] <emeb> I'll see where to get it. What's wrong with q3?
  • [23:40:20] <mru> 25% slower code
  • [23:40:25] <emeb> (I recall you mentioned this yesterday but I missed it)
  • [23:40:34] <emeb> Ah. Not good.
  • [23:41:20] <emeb> I wonder how noticeable that would be on a kernel compile?
  • [23:41:58] <mru> http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release858
  • [23:42:12] <mru> ^^ 2009q1
  • [23:42:43] <emeb> Thanks - getting it. Will install alongside q3 & see what happens...
  • [23:43:14] <emeb> Interesting that the D/L is ~2x larger!!
  • [23:43:32] <mru> unless you spend inordinate amounts of time in kernel I guess the difference won't be huge
  • [23:43:44] <emeb> (the extra bits were the ones that made it faster :) )
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  • [23:44:59] <emeb> I have a kernel! Only 15min to build. I remember back in '93 when I used to build on an i386 it would take a lot longer...
  • [23:46:39] <djlewis_> those were the days... my friend... We thought they'd never end ... tra la la la...
  • [23:46:55] <emeb> Kinda glad they did... :)
  • [23:47:14] <mru> I remember building kernels on a pentium-166 in 15-30 minutes
  • [23:47:20] <mru> kernels were smaller back then
  • [23:47:23] <mru> or compiler were faster
  • [23:47:23] <ds2> MMmm i386 w/2M of ram
  • [23:47:29] <emeb> True!
  • [23:47:42] <mru> the compilers were faster, but the code they spat out was slower
  • [23:47:45] <emeb> Didn't have nearly so many device drivers...
  • [23:48:01] <mru> my computer doesn't have more devices now than it did then
  • [23:48:06] <mru> and I don't build drivers is don't need
  • [23:48:12] <emeb> Good idea
  • [23:49:05] <djlewis_> but the devices it does have are more complex
  • [23:49:38] <jacques> 386sx25 w/ 4MiB RAM
  • [23:50:29] <ppotera> turbo button?
  • [23:50:39] <jacques> no, it was a compaq IIRC
  • [23:50:42] <djlewis_> gotta love the turbo button :)
  • [23:50:50] <emeb> vroooom!
  • [23:50:55] <djlewis_> hehee.
  • [23:50:58] <jacques> IIRC compaq didn't nelieve in teh turbo
  • [23:51:07] <emeb> Don't think mine did anything except change the LED display...
  • [23:51:14] <mru> I've seen compaqs with turbo button
  • [23:51:26] <ppotera> going from 12 to 16 MHz on a 286 was a huge difference :)
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  • [23:55:36] <emeb> OK - dumb question: How to pull modules out into a tree I can install on the rootfs?
  • [23:56:37] <emeb> since make modules_install would prolly try to stick 'em in my hosts /lib
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  • [23:57:56] <mru> make INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/some/place modules_install
  • [23:59:14] <emeb> Thnks
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