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[00:00:53] <ds2> is there a difference?
[00:01:21] <JDuke128> hmm , i can do mediator by just using usb hub ??
[00:01:32] <JDuke128> that listens 1 port of keyboard
[00:01:42] <JDuke128> and other one connected to pc
[00:01:48] <JDuke128> keyboard.
[00:01:53] <ds2> No.
[00:01:57] <ds2> see USB spec.
[00:02:08] <JDuke128> i need ossilator ?
[00:02:14] <JDuke128> 1.5 mhz ?
[00:02:16] <ds2> wtf is a ossilator?
[00:02:57] <JDuke128> oscillator
[00:02:59] <JDuke128> sry
[00:04:55] <brokie> @Jduke128: http://www.circuitsathome.com/mcu/usb/usb-isolator
[00:05:08] <JDuke128> i just need beagleboard usb input & output that sniffs & do operation
[00:05:09] <JDuke128> ok
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[00:06:58] <JDuke128> its called usb-isolator hmm
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[00:09:48] <JDuke128> well , i ve looked usb-isolator , its not explaining how to connect it to ? rs232 or usb or ...
[00:10:30] <ds2> Oh... no
[00:10:43] <ds2> it needs to be an active device if you want to do any mods
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[00:10:58] <ds2> you can potentially log if you are careful with other things but it would still have to be active
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[00:13:19] <JDuke128> i didnt understand how to connect this device to beagleboard as mitm , usb isolator or sniffer.... http://www.circuitsathome.com/products-page
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[00:16:34] <ds2> the BB has both a host and a device
[00:17:34] <JDuke128> ds2 , you mean no need for any extra device to sniff other usb cables ?
[00:17:51] <ds2> yes
[00:18:45] <JDuke128> ds2 , but beagleboard only has 1 usb interface ?
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[00:20:10] <JDuke128> ds2 , beagleboard has only 1 usb input , no output
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[00:21:41] <ds2> the beagle board (RevC or newer) has 2 USB interfaces.
[00:22:05] <ds2> more specifically, 2 FUNCTIONAL USB interfaces; RevB's had 2 also but only one was functional.
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[00:22:52] <JDuke128> ds2 , i ve RevC but there is only 1 usb and its only input other is usb otg its input too , there is no usb out ?
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[00:26:44] <ds2> please go look up what you just said
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[02:04:13] <outofwhack> can a beagleboard directly drive small relays so that I may turn on/off 3 battery torches
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[02:06:27] <bgamari> outofwhack: Sure
[02:06:30] <bgamari> No directly per se
[02:06:42] <bgamari> but a bjt will do
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[02:07:13] <outofwhack> what is a bjt?
[02:07:53] <mru> bipolar junction transistor
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[02:09:14] <outofwhack> ok great, so which connections on the beagleboard can drive a discrete transistor?
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[02:09:43] <mru> there should be some GPIO pins
[02:11:10] <outofwhack> can i just download a c compiler for angstrom and write some code to toggle a gpio pin?
[02:11:43] <mru> you can do it even from a shell
[02:12:23] <bgamari> outofwhack: as mru said, gpio pins can be exposed in /sys
[02:14:33] <outofwhack> Thanks! I havent had any luck trying to find info on the internet to explain how to do this. Where should I be looking?
[02:14:45] <mru> this is the internet...
[02:15:02] <bgamari> outofwhack: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=linux+gpio
[02:15:26] <bgamari> Not sure what you were looking for, but it's kinda tough to miss
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[02:18:10] <djlewis1> howdy :)
[02:18:37] <bgamari> hey
[02:19:12] <outofwhack> bgamari,mru: thanks I am beginning to find useful pages now that I have the keyword gpio
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[02:21:00] <bgamari> glad to help
[02:21:27] <ds2> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/blinking_leds_with_the_beagle_board.html
[02:21:34] <ds2> with examples
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[03:42:25] <kerute> quick and newby question... is it possible to have a console using the usb or do i need the serial connexion ?
[03:44:31] <thurbad> yes, but you need to modify the environment variables
[03:45:05] <wmat> kerute: see here http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Serial_connection
[03:45:48] <thurbad> without a serial cable you're probably going to need to make a boot.scr file to set the variables on the boot partition of an SD card
[03:46:23] <wmat> kerute: change the serial device to /dev/ttyUSB1
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[04:06:59] <kerute> (thanks for your answers
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[04:28:00] <Brokie> anyone have X-loader 1.4.1 ift file?
[04:28:23] <Brokie> 1.4.2 locks up me beagle clone
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[04:40:41] <Brokie> heh
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[04:41:05] <lilly> how to setup dvi mode for beagle board
[04:41:17] <lilly> my default mode set as omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-32@60
[04:41:43] <lilly> i need 1920x1080, is it possible ?
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[04:42:45] <DanaG> lilly: likely not; I didn't manage to get it to work with 1680x1050, even.
[04:42:55] <DanaG> I believe there's some hardware limitation there.
[04:44:02] <lilly> what is the max resolution we can set
[04:44:27] <DanaG> eh, I'm not sure on that.
[04:44:34] <DanaG> It's also a bummer that fbset doesn't seem to work, either.
[04:44:55] <lilly> ok
[04:46:06] <Brokie> for 1080, you can do progressive 1080, with omapfb.mode=dvi:1080p60
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[04:46:47] <Brokie> can also do 720p with omapfb.mode=dvi:720p60
[04:47:14] <Brokie> if you are in europe, you can do 1080p50 or 720p50
[04:47:26] <Brokie> (for pal of course)
[04:48:56] <Brokie> using MR-32, would need a vram size of 12M, which is why you cannot use the above settings... " omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-32@60"
[04:51:40] <lilly> Brokie : let me try 1080p60
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[04:55:26] <Brokie> you must have a 1080p capable TV
[04:55:41] <mru> not at all
[04:55:53] <mru> for 1080 modes obviously
[04:55:58] <mru> not for the others
[04:56:01] <Brokie> right
[04:56:12] <Brokie> I was referring to the fact he was trying the 1080p mode
[04:56:15] <Brokie> :)
[04:56:16] * mru isn't reading everything
[04:56:19] <mru> :-)
[04:56:24] <Brokie> hehe
[04:56:35] <mru> maybe I should go and sleep instead, it's 5am
[04:56:41] <Brokie> mru, do you have the 1.4.1 x-loader?
[04:56:46] <mru> afraid not
[04:57:06] <Brokie> my beagle clone wont boot with the 1.4.2, but will with 1.4.1
[04:57:09] <Brokie> dunno why
[04:57:11] <Brokie> :(
[04:57:19] <mru> which clone?
[04:57:24] <Brokie> kwikbyte
[04:57:40] <Brokie> i wanna smash it against the wall
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[04:57:53] <mru> that might void the warranty
[04:57:57] <Brokie> perhaps
[04:58:00] <mru> of the wall
[04:58:09] <Brokie> but I have better luck with the 3530EVM
[04:58:28] <Brokie> meh... house built in 1968... warranty far over
[04:58:30] <ds2> Brokie: do you have the right RAM settings?
[04:58:42] <Brokie> ram settings for?
[04:58:48] <ds2> the biard
[04:58:50] <ds2> board
[04:59:00] <Brokie> the biard has 256 / 512
[04:59:13] <ds2> yes, I am familiar with the KBOC
[04:59:21] <ds2> but is your x-loader familar with it?
[04:59:21] <Brokie> me too
[04:59:24] <Brokie> no
[04:59:29] <Brokie> but 1.4.1 is...
[04:59:40] <ds2> then... :D
[04:59:46] <Brokie> and all atempts to compile me own results in same thing
[04:59:55] <Brokie> brickville
[05:00:27] <ds2> why do you need to change x-loader anyways?
[05:00:33] <Brokie> can ya hep a noob out?
[05:00:49] <Brokie> cuz no one can pass me an 1.4.1 ift
[05:01:09] <ds2> get it from the vendor
[05:01:15] <Brokie> ya
[05:01:17] <ds2> IIRC, you can download it
[05:01:30] <Brokie> emailing them is like talking to 5yo's with crack candy
[05:01:40] <ds2> HE HE HE HE
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[05:02:12] <Brokie> they dont READ the entire email, they respond with nonsensical gibberish, and act, well, like crackheads
[05:02:22] <Brokie> 5yo crackheads
[05:02:43] <Brokie> its like arguing with a doughnut
[05:02:59] <lilly> when i set omapfb.mode with 1080p and reboot system
[05:02:59] <Brokie> funny for a minute, but overall, useless
[05:03:07] <ds2> sounds like you had more productive conversations with brickwalls :D
[05:03:12] <Brokie> yep
[05:03:13] <lilly> the setting of fb0 and fb1 are like this
[05:03:24] <lilly> for fb0 it set for 640x 480
[05:03:36] <lilly> and for fb1 it set for 640 x 400
[05:03:45] <Brokie> did you saveenv?
[05:03:58] <lilly> yeah
[05:04:08] <Brokie> try...
[05:04:29] <Brokie> setenv dvimode '1080p60'
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[05:07:49] <Brokie> setenv bootargs '$({Yourbootargs}) omapfb.mode=dvi:1080p60 omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:16M'
[05:09:03] <Brokie> ds2, you leave?
[05:11:02] <Brokie> sniffle
[05:11:20] <Brokie> Kwickbyte, only have uImage, and u-boot.bin
[05:11:25] <Brokie> no X-loader
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[05:13:44] <DanaG> http://orion.dherring.com/beagleTouchWiki/OmapFb
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[05:17:27] <hazamin> hi. what is the difference between rootfs.jffs2 and rootfs.tar.gz? Is the "tar.gz" just a set of files that FS need? Or you can use either one for flashing?
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[05:31:45] <thurbad> rootfs and tar.gz go on the SD, the tar,gz is a compressed version of rootfs, and needs to be expanded with tar or similar
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[05:32:22] <Brokie> jffs2 is a FLASH based filesystem, to be mounted as a MTD device only
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[05:38:56] <hazamin> ok. And can't we flash rootfs.tar.gz on the NAND without having proceeded it with mkimage?
[05:39:32] <Brokie> lol
[05:39:52] <Brokie> if you wanna waste time, sure
[05:40:41] <hazamin> I don't want )
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[05:41:27] <Brokie> no... its DO NOT WANT, followed by pictures of scared kittens :)
[05:41:37] <Brokie> lol
[05:42:56] <Brokie> Example...
[05:42:58] <Brokie> http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/images/2007/10/10/donotwant.jpg
[05:43:04] <Brokie> hehe
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[05:47:07] <hazamin> :)
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[05:51:38] <pradeepbs> where can I find the tutorials in video about using beagle board
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[06:08:23] <hazamin> http://beagleintern.blogspot.com maybe here
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[07:48:05] <beaglefreek> has anybody tried Timesys(LinkLinux) is it useful when developing applications with OMAP35x
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[07:51:47] <_koen_> sakoman: any news on the xm uboot patches?
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[07:56:50] <thurbad> anyone familiar w/ the default pixel format of the framebuffer on the beagleboard?
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[08:03:28] <lilly_> thurbad : that depends upon ur boot args
[08:05:40] <thurbad> I'm using a 16 bit color depth.. or at least should be
[08:07:19] <lilly_> you can check with following command
[08:07:26] <lilly_> fbset -fb /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb1
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[08:10:25] <thurbad> hmm, it's rgb 565.. like I thought.. maybe sdl is cooking things when it loads
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[08:47:49] <re0x4> hi
[08:49:20] <re0x4> Should I try "nand write 80000000 680000 F980000" or "nand write 80000000 680000 ${filesize}" ? In the first case my board hangs on
[08:49:54] <re0x4> i mean it didn't finish even in a 3-4 hours
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[09:38:44] <hrw> morning
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[10:13:19] <chakie_work> great. i have my openembedded build tree where my daily backup picks it up. i guess it takes a bit longer this time :)
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[10:48:07] <nitin_> Is there a way/need to reset frame buffer after changin the resolution through fbset?
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[11:01:34] <nitin_> I am changing the resolution to 1024x768 from 720x482 using fbset -g
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[11:01:49] <nitin_> After which I see the output as scrambled on screen
[11:02:03] <nitin_> Only after reboot its proper
[11:02:17] <nitin_> I just wanted to know, how to avoid that reboot
[11:02:28] <nitin_> And change the resolution on the ly
[11:02:42] <nitin_> I mean on the fly
[11:02:42] <chakie_work> if you find out, please tell me too
[11:04:02] <nitin_> You mean it's not possible, am I trying to do somethign wrong
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[11:10:09] <virals1> nitin_ :Hi, I do not know for Beagle but just search for FBIO_SETSTD in framebuffer driver. It might be available in this ioctl.
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[11:12:04] <chakie_work> nitin_: no, i didn't mean that at all. i'm also a bit of a fb n00b and would also like to know
[11:15:02] <virals1> nitin_ : sorry, it is FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO , u put your requirement as arg, if possible driver will set else it will provide return code
[11:15:18] <virals1> nitin_ : I m fail code
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[11:23:39] <lilly> Is there any problem on narcissus while building stable demo image for beagle board ?
[11:24:14] <lilly> infront of all packages i am getting red cross sign
[11:29:41] <nitin_> I want to do all that on command line
[11:30:17] <nitin_> basic Idea is to switch from a 720x480 tv display to 1024x768 lcd display
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[11:36:47] <virals> nitin_ you can do that using call that ioctl using application which can be called via shell.
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[11:49:48] <nitin_> I meant , I want to do all that using fbset and sysfs interface
[11:50:14] <nitin_> av500: can you please provide some inputs
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[12:52:28] <srv> i try to enable mmc2 on custom board, i get the message: regulator: Unable to get requested regulator: vmmc and regulator: Unable to get requested regulator: vmmc_aux, any idea why this happens
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[13:51:14] <hrw> _koen_: armv6-novfp?
[13:51:58] <_koen_> hrw: correct :)
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[13:52:52] <jkridner|work> anybody seen a blog entry about the Zippy2 being available at Digi-Key? I want to put it in the BeagleBoard.org RSS feed.
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[13:58:06] <_koen_> jkridner|work: only the irc announcement by prpplague_afk
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[14:03:26] <Neithan> I NEED HELP!!!!!!
[14:04:34] <Neithan> PLZ! ANYBODY OUT THERE?
[14:07:54] <tomba> call 911!
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[14:08:19] <Neithan> i dont think they can help me there..
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[14:09:52] <Neithan> I have compiled a new kernel version but whenever i try to boot it, it get stacked at "loading kernel image"
[14:10:47] <Neithan> ...
[14:10:49] <Neithan> ...
[14:11:04] <Neithan> any hint? advice? solution?
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[14:11:39] <adj> check bootargs, try with default configuration, enable low level debugging...
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[14:24:29] <tehpola> hm, I'm running Debian here on my BB, and I'm getting a lot of page allocation failures in my syslog although in the error message it looks like I have enough swap available (most of it isn't in use)
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[14:29:23] <buZz> cool, i can run my board from 6 to 23V now :P
[14:29:32] * buZz charging up a li-ion cell ;)
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[14:42:40] <sakoman> _koen_: I haven't commited the XM changes yet because I haven't actually gotten a board with 512MB ram working
[14:42:53] <sakoman> I intended to do them all at once
[14:43:50] <sakoman> but sadly it is taking longer than I expected
[14:45:54] <_koen_> sakoman: the current XMs are with 256MB
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[14:46:19] <_koen_> we talked about 512MB patches about an hour ago :)
[14:46:28] <kerute> im not sure to follow, are the XM available ?
[14:46:30] <_koen_> (we being the people on the beagle team in TI)
[14:46:40] <_koen_> kerute: no, that will take a few months
[14:46:45] <kerute> ah ok :)
[14:47:09] <kerute> beacause i just ordered a BB :)
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[14:49:59] <sakoman> _koen_: do you have patches internally for 512MB?
[14:50:50] <sakoman> I did the x-load patch yesterday to recognize the new vendor/device ID for the board I am working on, so I got past the x-load "unsupported chip" barrier
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[14:51:26] <sakoman> I then moved on to the u-boot code, but haven't yet gotten 512 working there
[14:52:40] <_koen_> nothing public I know off
[14:53:22] <_koen_> sakoman: I have a touchbook with 512MB ram, but I suspect gregoire doesn't have the patches for that on the web (only his binaries work, rebuilding doesn;t)
[14:53:37] <sakoman> all right, I'll keep working on that later today
[14:53:47] <sakoman> I guess I could push your 2 XM patches, since they really aren't related to the extra memory
[14:53:52] <_koen_> we want to ditch xloader for xm and switch to the config header
[14:54:01] <_koen_> we have no nand anyway :)
[14:54:06] <sakoman> I'll check and make sure they don't break anything for me
[14:54:33] <sakoman> _koen_: right :-) my board has both nand and extra ram
[14:55:19] <_koen_> like my touchbook :)
[14:55:19] <sakoman> _koen_: IGEPv2 also has 512 ram, but they use a somewhat strange ONENAND POP module
[14:57:40] <buZz> sakoman: any luck on getting the igep to output svideo? :D
[14:58:07] <sakoman> buZz: sorry, haven't spent any time on that at all
[14:58:29] <buZz> aww boohoo
[14:58:32] <buZz> :)
[14:58:32] <sakoman> I'm working with a client that has svideo out
[14:58:42] <sakoman> and will be testing on their board today
[14:59:08] <buZz> well, keep me posted :D
[14:59:15] <sakoman> OK
[14:59:24] <hrw> omap3 supports *only* pop memories - right?
[14:59:26] <buZz> i had my IGEP running from a SLA battery today
[14:59:38] <buZz> now i'm going to move to li-ion cells
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[14:59:55] <sakoman> hrw: no, there are versions that can use non-pop memory
[15:00:17] <sakoman> different package option than beagle/overo/igep/zoom use
[15:00:57] <sakoman> not sure how popular that package option is
[15:00:59] <hrw> I hope that 2010 will bring me 12" wxga laptop with armv7a + 1GB ram
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[15:05:34] <hrw> but it seems that omap3 will not be inside ;(
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[15:11:43] <kerute> i was wondering, does pop memory means i can buy a bigger memory and change the one on the beagleboard ?
[15:12:32] <hrw> no
[15:12:45] <buZz> hrw: guess it'll be omap4 eh ;)
[15:13:10] <_koen_> hrw: you rcn rePOP devices, but I doubt it's cost effective
[15:13:24] <_koen_> s/rcn/can/
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[15:18:22] <hrw> buZz: or snapdragon or marvell or .... who knows
[15:19:01] <kerute> so pop memory is just cool/usefull for manufacturers, not for users
[15:19:16] <hrw> kerute: ?
[15:19:20] <buZz> kerute: makes your device smaller ;)
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[15:19:29] <kerute> yeah sure
[15:19:30] <hrw> kerute: show me user which can solder BGA at home
[15:19:49] <kerute> but i tought it would be just a chip you clip
[15:20:06] <buZz> why?
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[15:21:06] <kerute> dont know, the sschema i seen for a pop memory seemed just like some balls inserted in the border of the proc
[15:21:27] <buZz> yeah, those balls are solder ;)
[15:22:17] <kerute> ah ok thats what i missed
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[15:23:01] <_koen_> man, I suck at typing today
[15:23:09] <kerute> now its clear thanks
[15:23:44] <_koen_> jkridner|work: aren't you supposed to be on holiday?
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[15:28:57] <jkridner> that was Friday.
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[15:29:35] <jkridner> I'm still a bit distracted from cleaning up from my holiday though. :)
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[16:28:46] <prpplague> jkridner: no real blog entry about the zippy2
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[17:17:04] <buZz> hehe, just two 18650 cells is fine to run my board <3
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[17:18:51] <hrw> ok, who tried to make working system *without* busybox (from OE)?
[17:19:11] * _koen_ raises hand
[17:19:23] <hrw> _koen_: effects?
[17:19:32] <hrw> _koen_: notes? recipes?
[17:19:45] <_koen_> I gave up and included busybox as fall-back
[17:19:56] <_koen_> but task-proper-tools is in a much better shape now
[17:20:10] <hrw> need to check its state
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[17:24:56] <_koen_> mru: ping
[17:25:33] <mru> pong
[17:25:46] <hrw> _koen_: last changes were mine - you have some extras for task-proper-tools?
[17:25:59] <_koen_> hrw: nope
[17:26:12] <_koen_> mru: what does you beagle report with hdparm -tT ?
[17:26:13] <hrw> ok, so your attempts were over year ago
[17:26:33] <_koen_> mru: and does omapfbplay still have that benchmarking feature?
[17:27:03] <_koen_> hdparm reports 150MB/s for ram, which seems low
[17:27:12] <_koen_> (640x480 24bit fb)
[17:27:25] <mru> omapfbplay benchmark should still be there
[17:28:59] <_koen_> ah, -t
[17:29:54] <mru> I get similar readings
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[17:32:02] <mru> what does omapfbplay bench report?
[17:32:11] <mru> you need -s to get meaningful numbers
[17:32:18] <mru> otherwise it waits for vsync
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[17:33:51] <_koen_> mru: 300fps for 1280x720
[17:34:29] <_koen_> 163MB/s read, 654MB/s write
[17:35:15] <mru> at 1GHz?
[17:36:32] <_koen_> yes
[17:36:48] <_koen_> same POP memory as regular beagles
[17:36:59] <mru> I get 200 fps at 600 here
[17:37:45] <_koen_> it's between 330 and 350 fps
[17:38:09] <_koen_> so that math works out
[17:38:26] <_koen_> guess I need to break out oprofile or something similar
[17:39:28] <ds2> _koen_: maybe something else is clocked down when the A8 is at 1GHz?
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[17:40:08] <_koen_> ds2: that's my guess as well, but mem and cpu seem to check out
[17:40:24] <_koen_> I wonder if it's the L3 bus
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[17:41:49] <hrw> have a nice rest of day
[17:42:21] <_koen_> mru: the omapfbplay benchmark functions tests neon, right?
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[17:43:16] <mru> whatever you ask for
[17:43:24] <mru> neon converter is the default
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[18:05:03] <mru> _koen_: that's what omapfbplay -t measures
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[18:06:33] <_koen_> hmmm
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[18:08:43] <_koen_> mru: any guesses what might be causing the slowdowns on 37xx?
[18:09:06] <mru> no idea
[18:10:15] <_koen_> it can't even do 480p mpeg anymore
[18:10:19] <_koen_> mpeg4
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[18:22:16] <prpplague> buZz: yea 18650's do well for most applications
[18:22:22] <prpplague> buZz: you running two in series?
[18:22:26] <buZz> yep
[18:22:33] <buZz> http://www.flickr.com/photos/complete_bastiaan/4401963770/
[18:22:52] <buZz> my current charger is not capable of two cell charging though :(
[18:23:59] <prpplague> buZz: yea you have to be careful with the charging
[18:24:04] <buZz> uhuh
[18:24:11] <buZz> i'm getting http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7028
[18:24:15] <buZz> as soon as it's back in stock
[18:24:16] <prpplague> buZz: i assume you've got your 18650's with a protection circuit
[18:24:20] <buZz> uhuh
[18:24:30] <buZz> although it doesn't seem to work
[18:24:59] <buZz> it didn't cut the power @ 2.75V but drained it all the way to 2.42 :S (but i was just running an 1W LED of it to empty the cell)
[18:25:08] <prpplague> buZz: OH wow, i had not seen that before
[18:25:12] <prpplague> buZz: very nice
[18:25:21] <buZz> and cheap ;)
[18:25:41] <buZz> i'm thinking of making two 3S1P battery packs
[18:25:45] <buZz> and run them in parallel
[18:25:56] * prpplague makes a bookmark and note to order one
[18:26:04] <buZz> that way, i can swap while keeping the igep running :P
[18:26:13] <prpplague> buZz: nice idea
[18:26:36] <buZz> yeah, packs for these balancers aren't that hard to make
[18:26:42] <prpplague> buZz: i've used batteryspace.com for my prototype stuff in the past
[18:26:47] <buZz> http://etc.servehttp.com/3s2p.png
[18:27:05] <buZz> i get the cells from dealextreme, shitcheap, 4.something USD per 2500mAh cell
[18:27:18] <buZz> 6 of those would give me quite some battery life i guess
[18:27:28] <prpplague> nice
[18:27:41] <prpplague> buZz: definetly a good deal for hacking
[18:27:53] <prpplague> (not so much for prototyping and proof-of-concept)
[18:28:03] <buZz> well, sorta
[18:28:17] <buZz> depends what you want to achieve :P
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[18:43:07] <prpplague> buZz: replication is generally what i need, i need to be able to go to production on something and not have to worry that the bargain place is out of stock on the part
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[18:49:24] <prpplague> jkridner jkridner|work it would be nice if digkey had the zippy2 listed as an accessory on the beagle product page
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[19:04:02] <anothern00b> Hi All
[19:04:19] <anothern00b> My beagleboard fails to detect my USB Hub
[19:04:24] <anothern00b> Can somebody pls help?
[19:04:49] <anothern00b> I am running angstrom
[19:06:02] <XorA> anothern00b: EHCI or OTG?
[19:06:24] <anothern00b> EHCI
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[19:06:34] <anothern00b> I power it up thru OTG
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[19:06:59] <XorA> what model of beagle?
[19:07:04] <anothern00b> Rev C4
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[19:07:22] <XorA> no idea, then, Ive not actually used the EHCI
[19:07:27] <XorA> I really should get round to it
[19:07:41] <anothern00b> Am I doing it right?
[19:08:09] <anothern00b> When powering thru OTG it should support a powered USB hub on EHCI port rite??
[19:08:17] <prpplague> jkridner / jkridner|work trainer boards go on sale later this week
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[19:08:39] <prpplague> oh no who let the "bug man" in here?
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[19:14:22] <samway> hey guys. anyone have experience using the dsp to generate tones to the audio out?
[19:16:48] <jkridner> samway: do you mean without having the buffers handled by the ARM?
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[19:17:29] <jkridner> I know it is possible to configure the DAC with the ARM and then send samples directly from the DSP, but I haven't seen any open source software that does it.
[19:17:45] <jkridner> (not saying it doesn't exist, just that I haven't seen it.)
[19:18:13] <samway> jkridner: well, to be perfectly honest, i'm not exactly sure what i'm looking for. i would like to be able to send a message to the dsp with the dsplink and have the dsp play a tone
[19:19:11] <samway> kind of a hello world with the dsplink to get me started. the end goal is to make a synthesizer
[19:19:45] <jkridner> k, I don't know any simple demo like that. one of the nicest demos i've seen for making the DSP easy to use is one that gives it STDIO support and a neat compile script that generates an executable that runs on the ARM and loads the code on the DSP.
[19:20:19] <jkridner> it uses DSP/Link and MSGQ, but doesn't expose any of it to the programmer.
[19:20:27] <jkridner> that wouldn't generate an audio tone though.
[19:21:01] <samway> hmm.. it'd at least help me get started with the dsp-link stuff, though
[19:21:08] <jkridner> the GStreamer plug-ins make it reasonable to perform audio processing on the DSP, but they use the ARM to perform the output to the DAC.
[19:21:08] <samway> where is this demo?
[19:22:14] <samway> i've only read a little about gstreamer.. i'll have to take a look at it
[19:22:27] <jkridner> it is on gforge.ti.com, but it looks like it was made private for now.
[19:22:39] <jkridner> I think some copyright issues had to be resolved.
[19:22:47] <samway> ah, fair enough
[19:23:03] <jkridner> the GStreamer plug-ins are public.
[19:23:08] <jkridner> http://gstreamer.ti.com
[19:23:35] <jkridner> there are folks working with it on #gst_ti.
[19:23:36] <samway> to use the DSP, are most people writing code to the DSP with the GPP or writing a separate program for the DSP?
[19:24:12] <jkridner> I'd like to convince them to provide a simple demo that performs an audio filter, an audio source, and an audio sink.
[19:24:34] <samway> haha i'd like to help you do that
[19:24:40] <jkridner> I think most people write GPP code that inits the DSP.
[19:25:44] <samway> cool cool.. that's the goal for this weekend anyway: getting the dsp-link set up
[19:26:53] <jkridner|work> Have you tried editing the dsp-link demo apps?
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[19:27:54] <samway> demo apps? hah.. not sure how i would have overlooked those
[19:28:33] <ds2> jkridner: are you finallyback in this hemisphere?
[19:28:38] <jkridner> I am. :)
[19:29:21] <samway> i just this last week got started with the beagleboard and haven't come across the dsp-link demos yet
[19:29:48] <jkridner> samway: why don't you join me in #gst_ti to continue this discussion. I think there are people there that understand dsp-link a bit more.
[19:30:38] <samway> sounds good, i'll head over there
[19:30:40] <samway> thank you!
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[20:03:53] <cubic1273> howdy. can anybody recommend a wireless USB device that's relatively easy to get going with this particular board? I noticed the Belkin F5D7050 listed on the shopping list page, but picked one of those up and haven't had much luck
[20:06:01] <chakie> hm, this doesn't look good:
[20:06:03] <chakie> [ 30.588928] uncorrectable error : <3>end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector 88
[20:06:07] <chakie> quite a few of those
[20:06:11] <chakie> when booting
[20:08:34] <samway> cubic1273: are you just looking to get internet connectivity, or do you need wireless specifically?
[20:09:07] <cubic1273> samway: wireless specifically, with either ad-hoc or master mode support
[20:09:57] <GrizzlyAdams> cubic1273: getting a wireless bridge adapter (Linksys WET610N / WET54G / WET11) and a supported usb ethernet adapter generally works better (even if it costs more)
[20:10:31] <samway> cubic1273: fair enough.. i'm afraid i won't be of much help then. i have internet connectivity over USB OTG working, but no wireless
[20:10:42] <cubic1273> GrizzlyAdams: didn't think of that. . . I'll look into that. thanks :)
[20:11:07] <GrizzlyAdams> you spend about $99 for the WET610N + $30 for an ASIX based adapter, but it works *very* well, without having to rely on the linux rtxxxx drivers, or wpa-supplicant
[20:11:40] <GrizzlyAdams> i'm working on getting linksys to release the firmware source for the WET610N, since its linux based.
[20:11:54] <cubic1273> samway: no problem. thanks anyway!
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[20:28:13] <chakie> what have i managed to do now? can't unpack the root fs to the sd card
[20:28:32] <chakie> tar: ./sbin/swapon: Cannot create symlink to `../bin/busybox': Operation not permitted
[20:28:34] <chakie> etc
[20:32:55] <chakie> ffs, i make my boot and root partitions wrong fs type
[20:33:04] <chakie> my root is vfat and the boot ext3
[20:33:06] <chakie> argh!
[20:35:07] <chakie> phew, only mounted them wrong
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[20:51:17] <chakie> looking here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
[20:51:25] <chakie> it says to set the booting options:
[20:51:31] <chakie> setenv bootcmd 'mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000'
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[20:51:46] <chakie> should that be "mmcinit"?
[20:51:48] <chakie> as i get:
[20:51:49] <_koen_> is that the one that tells you to blow away the uboot env for someting bogus?
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[20:51:54] <_koen_> ah, yes that's the one
[20:52:07] <_koen_> don;t do that
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[20:52:18] <chakie> aha, already did
[20:52:22] <_koen_> that wiki is has some really dangerous bits inside
[20:52:25] <chakie> but it gave an error
[20:52:29] <chakie> Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0
[20:52:30] <chakie> Usage:
[20:52:32] <chakie> mmcinit - init mmc card
[20:52:43] <chakie> ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **
[20:52:44] <chakie> Wrong Image Format for bootm command
[20:52:46] <chakie> ERROR: can't get kernel image!
[20:52:56] <_koen_> nand erase 260000 20000
[20:53:06] <_koen_> that should get you the default env back
[20:53:23] <_koen_> with a recent uboot (2009.11 or so) the default env is sane
[20:53:39] <chakie> this has an old uboot on it
[20:53:45] <chakie> U-Boot 1.3.4-rc2 (Aug 18 2008 - 19:03:08)
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[20:54:18] <_koen_> heh
[20:54:43] <_koen_> grab the one from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
[20:54:54] <_koen_> 1.3.4 has all the neon bugs unpatches
[20:55:19] <chakie> this one is old yes, haven't done any bb stuff for over a year
[20:55:45] <chakie> i have those files already on the vfat partition
[20:56:07] <chakie> MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage
[20:57:40] <armin76> mru: have you seen the patch i made for gcc? now gcc will get built with --with-arch based on your chost :)
[20:57:50] <|nfecteD> how do i limit the beagle's RAM use? Damn thing crashes when i try to compile larger programs
[20:58:20] <buZz> add swap ;)
[20:58:28] <|nfecteD> heh
[20:58:36] <buZz> it's what i do
[20:58:38] <mru> armin76: no, I haven't seen that one
[20:58:51] <|nfecteD> does linux assume there is always swap availble?
[20:58:57] <mru> no
[20:59:05] <buZz> no, but running out of memory bring on the oomkiller
[20:59:06] <armin76> mru: :) ok, so sync up, and if you reemerge gcc you'll have it :)
[20:59:13] <buZz> +s
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[20:59:35] <mru> armin76: it won't really do anything for me
[20:59:49] <|nfecteD> wouldn't it just fill up the swap too and then proceed to crash like crazy? :P
[20:59:51] <mru> crossdev seems to already do the right magic
[21:00:08] <armin76> mru: just in case :)
[21:00:44] <mru> and I don't cross-compile gcc
[21:01:10] <chakie> there are quite a lot of docs of various quality
[21:01:24] <mru> oh wait, --with-arch is the default for -march
[21:02:01] <mru> which again makes no difference given I always tell it -mcpu anyway
[21:02:10] <buZz> |nfecteD: i would assume you need a certain amount of memory for the job you are running, if mem+swap fits this job, it would have no reason to run the oomkiller
[21:02:21] <chakie> i assume the "Booting" docs here aren't good either: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit
[21:02:59] <chakie> as the "fatload mmc 0:1 0x80300000 uImage" seems to freeze
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[21:05:57] <chakie> hm, the uImage is only 3M, it can't take this long to "fatload" it
[21:12:02] <chakie> most operations just freeze
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[21:20:58] <GrizzlyAdams> hrm, can't figure out how to get the mtab when procfs isn't mounted on /proc
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[21:22:32] <XorA> chakie: that should work
[21:22:59] <chakie> XorA: i think the problem was a badly installed sd card
[21:23:26] <chakie> XorA: the card reader is not that good
[21:23:47] <|nfecteD> rawr! I need to limit RAM usage :/
[21:23:55] <|nfecteD> 128MB swap wasn't enough
[21:24:45] <|nfecteD> i know i found it when i was poking around with angstrom
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[21:27:18] <|nfecteD> somewhere there is a file where it now says "unlimited"
[21:28:29] <|nfecteD> thats fine and dandy if you have a huge swap partition
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[21:30:03] <chakie> ah, ok, now it boots
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[21:39:45] <chakie> i need a fairly unstandard resolution for connecting to my projector, is it possible to set own?
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[21:40:04] <chakie> looking at the default modes in drivers/video/modedb.c and nothing comes close
[21:42:04] <chakie> ok, lots on the mailing list
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[21:49:07] <cubic1273> |nfecteD: are you talking about ulimit?
[21:50:29] <|nfecteD> thats it, yes
[21:50:45] <|nfecteD> but i just added a 2GB usb stick as swap
[21:50:56] <|nfecteD> so that should work
[21:51:00] <cubic1273> *nod*
[21:52:01] <|nfecteD> maybe one of you guys know... how to set the CPU frequenzy when linux is running?
[21:53:51] <chakie> hm, how do i permanently update u-boot? it "reverts" to the old 1.3.4 i had there from ancient times
[21:55:27] <XorA> nand erase
[21:55:38] <XorA> then write the new one
[21:55:53] <chakie> as per the docs here? http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleNANDFlashing
[21:56:05] <chakie> i'm sorry for all the stupid questions...
[21:56:43] <XorA> cant remember the exact command off hand, but looks about right
[21:56:48] <|nfecteD> Think i followed that doc when i flashed my uboot so it should work
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[21:58:13] <|nfecteD> Im in here to ask stupid questions too, so...
[21:58:37] <ds2> there really isn't a good reason to ugrade uboot unless you are doing something wrong
[21:59:06] <chakie> i have this old version:
[21:59:08] <chakie> U-Boot 1.3.4-rc2 (Aug 18 2008 - 19:03:08)
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[21:59:24] <chakie> and also:
[21:59:26] <chakie> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.41
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[22:00:06] <|nfecteD> i guess its fine if you have a rev. C3 or earlier
[22:00:28] <chakie> b5
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[22:00:46] <chakie> it says on a small sticker
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[22:00:55] <ds2> should be fine
[22:01:03] <ds2> no good reason to upgrade it if you do sane coding
[22:01:11] <chakie> aha
[22:01:27] <chakie> i don't plan on doing anything close to rocket science
[22:01:35] <ds2> u-boot has one job - get yourkernel into memory and kick it off
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[22:01:51] <ds2> if you want to overload it forother jobs then, that's your insanity :D
[22:02:21] <chakie> heh, no
[22:02:26] <|nfecteD> i have a C4 and last i checked there was only one u-boot version i could use
[22:02:32] <|nfecteD> if not... NO USB FOR YOU!
[22:03:39] <chakie> i'm ultimately trying to get a fb mode 854x480 running that would give me a pixel perfect for my projector
[22:04:36] <ds2> that's cuz U-boot is turning things on for you
[22:04:51] <ds2> if you or someone want to write the regulator init code in the kernel....
[22:05:18] <ds2> chakie: which projector is 854x480?
[22:05:22] <chakie> ok, so uboot isn't something where newer is always better
[22:05:30] <chakie> ds2: an optoma h30a
[22:05:51] <chakie> not exactly a standard resolution
[22:06:25] <ds2> big
[22:06:32] <ds2> actually, it is standard resolution
[22:06:58] <GrizzlyAdams> looks like the beagle mailing list is being scraped by eval board manufacturers for emails to send spam to
[22:07:22] <chakie> ds2: well, i've never seen it before in use
[22:07:31] <ds2> GrizzlyAdams: must be new... or they use known spam addrs
[22:07:41] <ds2> chakie: you can find surplus LCD panels in that resolution
[22:07:42] <chakie> but at least a normal xorg on a desktop system handles it ok
[22:07:56] <chakie> well, i guess that's good
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[22:09:47] <ds2> wonder if there is a chipcon channel
[22:10:46] <chakie> setting the resolution didn't seem to be a simple "omap-dss.def_disp=lcd omapfb.video_mode=854x480MR-24@60" addition to bootargs
[22:11:04] <chakie> fbset at least still said 640x480@59
[22:11:06] <ds2> you need to muck with the db
[22:11:36] <ds2> those modes are a bad idea that does a good job of confusing people
[22:11:46] <chakie> i guess
[22:12:54] <chakie> i guess db == drivers/video/modedb.c
[22:15:20] <ds2> yes
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[22:19:05] <chakie> [ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `omap-dss.def_disp=lcd': ignoring
[22:19:06] <chakie> [ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `omapfb.video_mode=854x480MR-24@60': ignoring
[22:20:04] <|nfecteD> omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60' <--- maybe you need to use that instead
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[22:20:26] <|nfecteD> omapfb.mode=dvi:854x480MR-24@60'
[22:20:29] <|nfecteD> in your case
[22:20:39] <|nfecteD> i don't know when that bootarg got changed
[22:20:40] <chakie> the first was also unknown
[22:20:57] <|nfecteD> but thats defined in the dvi
[22:21:07] <|nfecteD> right before the resolution
[22:21:18] <chakie> aha, yes
[22:21:21] <|nfecteD> atleast thats how it is in my uboot
[22:21:23] <|nfecteD> try it
[22:21:25] <|nfecteD> might work
[22:21:31] <chakie> the kernel is 2.6.29-omap1
[22:21:32] <chakie> yup
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[22:23:23] <chakie> it's not happy
[22:23:29] <|nfecteD> :/
[22:23:38] <|nfecteD> but did it accept the bootarg?
[22:23:40] <chakie> [ 818.929809] clock: clksel_round_rate_div: dpll4_m4_ck target_rate 48000000
[22:23:41] <chakie> [ 818.936706] clock: new_div = 9, new_rate = 48000000
[22:23:43] <chakie> [ 818.944885] omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST, disabling LCD
[22:23:56] <|nfecteD> whoops
[22:24:08] * |nfecteD sits in the corner
[22:26:00] <chakie> no errors about the bootargs at least
[22:26:26] <chakie> i saw something scroll by before the errors above filled my scrollback
[22:26:38] <chakie> the resolution used seemed to have been 848x480
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[22:27:43] <chakie> [ 27.379333] fbcvt: Aspect ratio not CVT standard
[22:27:44] <chakie> [ 27.384002] fbcvt: 848x480@60: CVT Name - Not a CVT standard - 0.407 Mega Pixel Image
[22:28:01] <|nfecteD> and im guessing a "standard" resolution like 800x600 would work?
[22:28:16] <chakie> sure, but i don't want scaling
[22:28:43] <chakie> i want it 1:1 with the projector resolution
[22:30:01] <|nfecteD> then one of the guru's in here have to help
[22:30:11] <|nfecteD> im a beaglen00b myself
[22:30:21] <|nfecteD> and i run boring standard resolutions
[22:31:25] <Ceriand|work> anyone have any experience on running CCSv4 on Win 7 with a XDS100v2 successfully?
[22:32:03] <chakie> i assume the solution is to try to create an own mode
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[22:32:17] <chakie> but that code is deep, deep rocket magic
[22:32:34] <chakie> and i don't want to damage my projector
[22:37:46] <buZz> chakie: what kind of projector is that?
[22:38:19] <chakie> buZz: an optoma h30a
[22:41:21] <buZz> weird resolution man :)
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[22:49:51] <chakie> <ds2> actually, it is standard resolution
[22:50:16] <chakie> i have an xorg modeline that works with it
[22:50:43] <chakie> i guess translating that to a modedb.c entry is doable
[22:51:47] <chakie> well, enough for one evening
[22:52:01] <chakie> good night and thank you for the help
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