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  • [01:16:52] <tomatoes7> which module do i want? 2.6.26-r4 or 2.6.27-r12 or 2.6.28-r17 or 2.6.29-r47?
  • [01:17:05] <tomatoes7> which module do i want? 2.6.26-r64 or 2.6.27-r12 or 2.6.28-r17 or 2.6.29-r47?
  • [01:17:08] <tomatoes7> r64
  • [01:17:30] <rcn-ee> tomatoes7, ones that match your uImage....
  • [01:18:24] <tomatoes7> umm, i was gonna use the one just called uImage
  • [01:19:23] <tomatoes7> which uImage do i want? or does it matter?
  • [01:19:58] <rcn-ee> if it's off the beagleboar demo site, use 2.6.29... but in the future you can use "mkimage -l uImage" to find out... and yes it really matters...
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  • [01:24:51] <tomatoes7> ok i see that uImage and uImage-2.6.29-r47-beagleboard.bin are the same
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  • [01:35:23] <hinv> Does anybody have a used beagleboard that they will let go of cheap?
  • [01:38:50] <ds2> Special editions, for a mere $999.99
  • [01:39:15] <rcn-ee> did you get gearld to sign it?
  • [01:39:55] <ds2> no, those would be for $9999.99 ;)
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  • [01:43:36] <djlewis> $999.98
  • [01:44:37] <djlewis> going once..., going twice... any bidders?
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  • [01:48:20] <ds2> drats... undercut again...
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  • [01:53:28] <djlewis> good evening ds2
  • [01:53:38] <ds2> evening djlewis
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  • [02:28:47] <bgamari> Has anyone seen this while compiling an ARM kernel?
  • [02:28:48] <bgamari> Error: can't resolve `.text' {.text section} - `.LFB1058' {.ARM.extab section}
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  • [03:10:39] <bencoder> hello. does anybody use the beagleboard as a portable? i'm looking for a decent battery power supply that will last all day for wearable use. any ideas?
  • [03:14:33] <bencoder> hmm i think maybe the best solution would be a bunch of rechargeable AA's with a 5v regulator. at least it keeps it cheap and simple
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  • [03:22:34] <djlewis> Li-Poly is very lightweight and handles lots of power.
  • [03:22:46] <ds2> and can go boom boom
  • [03:22:55] <djlewis> yep, makes it exciting.
  • [03:23:09] <djlewis> ds2: but you have to really provoke it.
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  • [03:24:10] <djlewis> but if you are walking down the street and a shooter is out and you catch a bullet in your li-poly, your'r dead.
  • [03:24:12] <ds2> taking off the protection circuitry, then charging it with 110V with a 20A fuse, and then slamming it with a 10lb sledge isn't provoking it... :D
  • [03:24:33] <djlewis> :)
  • [03:24:42] <bencoder> lol :D
  • [03:24:46] <ds2> what's a little hydrogen between friends and batteries
  • [03:25:34] <bencoder> I suppose i want to look at the rc scene for lipos.
  • [03:25:45] <djlewis> I got my 3c 2200mAH li poly after using 18 nicad sub C's and wat a size and weight difference.
  • [03:26:55] <djlewis> If you consider li-poly, do buy with the protection circuit.
  • [03:27:14] <bencoder> will do
  • [03:27:22] <djlewis> under charge kills li-poly, over charge kills bencoder
  • [03:27:52] <ds2> improper charging in either direction will do the later
  • [03:28:06] <djlewis> ds2, i didnt say short circuit
  • [03:28:17] <ds2> not that
  • [03:28:25] <djlewis> ?
  • [03:28:36] <ds2> charging at full rate below a certain threshold can potentially plate out Li metal, IIRC
  • [03:28:45] <ds2> Li metal + water == H2 gas == boom
  • [03:29:02] <djlewis> sounds fun.
  • [03:29:14] <djlewis> under controlled
  • [03:29:31] <ds2> the JEDEC and abunch of other folks have guidelines on this
  • [03:30:19] <djlewis> a bene is if you want you can suck a lot of power from one for a short duration.
  • [03:30:35] <djlewis> my 2200mAH has a 25c rate
  • [03:30:51] <djlewis> could really smoke a beagle, huh ;)
  • [03:32:15] <djlewis> I purchased without protection cause I have a very good li-poly (amongst others) charger.
  • [03:32:37] <djlewis> But then I had to watch that it did not drop below 9vDC, too much work.
  • [03:34:44] <bencoder> hmm. you've got me back considering a belt of relatively safe NiMH AAs. I don't really think I know enough about electronics or batteries to feel safe with lipos :/
  • [03:35:04] <djlewis> I looked around for a lo-volts cutoff but it would cost as much or more than the protection ckt to build
  • [03:35:52] <djlewis> well you buy a safety charging bag ( in case of explosion) at same time.
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  • [03:36:05] <djlewis> I put mine in a cookie jar to charge.
  • [03:36:20] <bencoder> but can short circuit explode them too?
  • [03:36:29] <bencoder> don't really want that while walking around
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  • [03:36:33] <djlewis> great way to blow the lid off.
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  • [03:37:53] <djlewis> using them with outdoor R/C toys is relatively safe as the fumes dissapate quickly.
  • [03:38:01] <bencoder> yeah
  • [03:40:19] <djlewis> watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3o_2mwRPdw
  • [03:40:38] <bencoder> not really helping my fears here
  • [03:45:02] <djlewis> informed is 9tenths..
  • [03:45:12] <bencoder> of course :)
  • [03:45:29] <djlewis> makes me think about charging mine outdoors :)
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  • [03:49:12] * djlewis supposes it's all that hydrogen that makes them so light ;)
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  • [03:50:33] <bencoder> thanks for the input :) night
  • [03:56:11] <GrizzlyAdams> you're welcome johnny five
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  • [04:05:11] <torusle> I hate writing unit-tests...
  • [04:05:24] <GrizzlyAdams> thats why i never write any
  • [04:07:39] <GrizzlyAdams> anyone know if the nthcode player can play dvd folders stored on a harddrive?
  • [04:19:23] <turtle_> i got angstrom-demo up and running, i can log in over the serial port, but i get no signal on my hdtv
  • [04:19:31] <turtle_> any suggestions?
  • [04:19:43] <nrossi> lower the resoulution in your bootargs
  • [04:27:44] <turtle_> video=omapfb:mode:480p60
  • [04:28:20] <nrossi> doesn't angstrom use the new style? omapfb.video=dvi:.... like that?
  • [04:30:20] <turtle_> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait video=omapfb:mode:480p60'
  • [04:30:38] <turtle_> i don't understand the instructions that well
  • [04:30:46] <ds2> hey GrizzlyAdams... you got the LED issues sorted out?
  • [04:31:05] <nrossi> @turtle_:http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning
  • [04:31:08] <nrossi> section IV
  • [04:31:11] <GrizzlyAdams> nah
  • [04:31:17] <GrizzlyAdams> i have no money for a few weeks
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  • [04:33:26] <turtle_> nrossit, thats what i followed, it just says your DVI-D monitor should have a log-in screen
  • [04:34:34] <nrossi> turtle_, i assume you are using the newest build of Angstrom?
  • [04:35:11] <turtle_> yes
  • [04:35:30] <nrossi> newest angstrom uses DSS2 display driver.
  • [04:35:34] <turtle_> 2.6.29
  • [04:35:42] <nrossi> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Display_resolutions_.231 << look at the display setting there
  • [04:36:55] <turtle_> # setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:mode:720p60'
  • [04:37:04] <turtle_> i'll try this
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  • [04:38:16] <ds2> wonder if there are a lot of people trying to hook up random sensors to the BB
  • [04:38:44] <turtle_> ds2, i will be one of those ppl soon
  • [04:39:07] <ds2> turtle_: do you know exactly how to go about it?
  • [04:39:53] <GrizzlyAdams> ARGH
  • [04:40:16] <GrizzlyAdams> was writing the nthcode rootfs to my sd card, and my kernel crashed :(
  • [04:41:39] <nrossi> @turtle_ i think your will want something along the lines of 'omapfb.mode=dvi:854x480MR-16@60' not 100% sure i only ever use 800x600 and serial console
  • [04:42:20] <turtle_> ds2, no not yet
  • [04:42:46] <turtle_> but i'll eventually try and use the gpio pins for connecting to sensors
  • [04:42:55] <ds2> turtle_: thinking of doing writing up a tutorial
  • [04:43:20] <turtle_> nrossi, maybe my problem is that i'm using an hdtv for a screen rather than a DVI monitor
  • [04:43:39] <nrossi> my lcdtv accepts DVI,
  • [04:44:25] <nrossi> well through HDMI, but it works fine
  • [04:46:41] <turtle_> is that what you use for a monitor?
  • [04:47:28] <nrossi> no, but people have had success in getting it working.
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  • [05:04:27] <djlewis> ds2: I look forward to your tutorial.
  • [05:05:36] <turtle_> djlewis, i second that
  • [05:07:34] <ds2> djlewis: so you don't think it is a waste of time?
  • [05:08:05] <djlewis> ds2: I feel many people can benefit from such a document, counting me.
  • [05:09:19] <djlewis> One thing omap is not is easy to use as embedded, jmpt
  • [05:09:32] <djlewis> just my personal thought.
  • [05:09:57] <ds2> hmmm interesting comment... I see it otherwise
  • [05:10:16] <djlewis> After years of simple interface to ttl then 3.3 and easy register or gpio/analog management of such.
  • [05:10:31] <ds2> but it is exactly the same
  • [05:11:00] <djlewis> takes two translators to get to ttl.
  • [05:11:09] <ds2> 2???????
  • [05:11:21] <djlewis> takes wizardry to manipulate a i/o signal
  • [05:11:36] <djlewis> I have not seen a 1.8 to 5v
  • [05:11:48] <djlewis> and vice versa
  • [05:11:51] <ds2> you don't need 5V for TTL
  • [05:12:05] <ds2> 5V tolerant 3.3V will work fine with TTL
  • [05:12:27] <djlewis> thats a way
  • [05:12:42] <ds2> 5V CMOS is harder, OTH
  • [05:12:48] <djlewis> see, your tutorial can benefit some :)
  • [05:13:17] <djlewis> if is is not all assuming as some folk write.
  • [05:13:38] <djlewis> all assuming the reader can read minds.
  • [05:13:52] <ds2> mind reading is useful :D
  • [05:13:59] <djlewis> here is is ;)
  • [05:14:18] <ds2> the reason I would prefer not to is it will not be distro centric
  • [05:15:15] <djlewis> there somes a point that focus on a device, like Beagle or gumstix, whatever becomes useful.
  • [05:15:23] <djlewis> somes = comes
  • [05:16:02] <djlewis> I read others are staying as generic as possible but our hardware specifics is not condusive to it
  • [05:16:32] <djlewis> this is #beagle, what is wrong with beagle focus?
  • [05:16:46] <ds2> reading the beagle list suggests there are nothing but distro centric folks :(
  • [05:17:14] <djlewis> I see that and it is good to have so many points of view thinking that way but...
  • [05:17:26] <djlewis> is beagle just software?
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  • [05:17:44] <ds2> to a lot of folks, it is
  • [05:18:04] <djlewis> is beagle promoted as a embedded dev platform?
  • [05:18:10] <ds2> that I donno
  • [05:18:19] <djlewis> it is on beagleboard.org
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  • [05:18:33] <ds2> I'd expect to see a lot more expansion boards if it isn't seen as just software
  • [05:18:40] <djlewis> that dfirectly promotes #beagle for support
  • [05:19:43] <djlewis> I cant speak for others but I got mine for hardware interfacing and software suporrted
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  • [05:20:51] <djlewis> as such, rather than reinvent the wheel, I am looking into the 'Trainer' board
  • [05:21:20] <djlewis> Funny thing, I dont think there are any libraries that come along with it.
  • [05:21:28] <ds2> heh
  • [05:21:44] <amitu> hey everyone..have a custom driver that i'm using openembedded to crosscompile for the beagleboard...is there anyway i can compile the driver natively in beagle?
  • [05:21:56] <djlewis> maybe
  • [05:22:12] <amitu> or can i use openembedded to just compile the driver? and not the entire kernel or system?
  • [05:23:25] <djlewis> ds2: do you care to sorta outline what you are thinking of writing into the tutorial?
  • [05:23:51] <ds2> voltage translation and using SPI
  • [05:24:21] <ds2> thinking of making up a kit for a lab (maybe)
  • [05:24:33] <djlewis> I hear of many users, perhaps students, that are struggling too.
  • [05:26:00] <nrossi> @ds2: do you use the TXS0108E for spi vt?
  • [05:26:23] <ds2> one thought is putting together a full package with a video and the lab.. donno how much time
  • [05:26:33] <ds2> nrossi: not really... that is overkill
  • [05:27:05] <djlewis> ds2: are you thinking more as a marketable item then or freeware?
  • [05:27:10] <nrossi> lol for some reason i cant remember why but i put a sample request in to TI for 2x and they are coming monday :|
  • [05:27:18] <ds2> djlewis: both...
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  • [05:27:45] <djlewis> enough free to get you hooked on the salable ;)
  • [05:27:54] <ds2> djlewis: lab/video would be a marketable item... write up would be free or maybe a shorten version
  • [05:28:10] <ds2> depends on how much it costs me... and if I can convince my friend to do the editing/post production work ;)
  • [05:28:46] <ds2> talking about interfacing w/o having a concrete example isn't that useful, IMO
  • [05:28:57] <djlewis> yes.
  • [05:29:02] <djlewis> I agree
  • [05:29:41] <ds2> and expecting people to go fab a board, assemble it properly, before doing the tutorial is as useful as expecting a free lunch daily
  • [05:30:11] <djlewis> yep, that gets down to a lesson kit
  • [05:30:56] <ds2> whatever board has to be simple so people can probe it and play with it (and maybe even reuse it)... something built with 74xxx chips in DIP packages driving LEDs...maybe with discrete transistors to do the power driving of that LED
  • [05:31:08] <djlewis> starting to sound like .. 'come to ca for seminar, $1000.00 gets 3 days and bb and kit' ;)
  • [05:31:47] <ds2> djlewis: you do know that's a good way to loose your shirt trying to set something like that up
  • [05:31:55] <djlewis> hehee..
  • [05:32:08] <nrossi> @ds2: i remember now why i got the vts (overkill ones), was planning on getting the ENC424J600 working with the BB, because you cant use GPMC and well USB = slow
  • [05:32:17] <djlewis> its doggone sadly funny :(
  • [05:32:32] <torusle> an idiot safe IO board would be nice...
  • [05:32:39] <ds2> nrossi: I would not use those for that purpose.... the drive current is too limited
  • [05:33:11] <ds2> torusle: it is not practical to beat the pace of better idiots coming out :(
  • [05:33:19] <djlewis> and ds2 id mentioning easily replaceable components
  • [05:33:38] <ds2> djlewis: as in socketed?
  • [05:33:42] <nrossi> ds2: know of any that can work at 20MHz with a sufficient drive current?
  • [05:34:03] <ds2> nrossi: not the exact P/N's but there are tons of them out there
  • [05:34:06] <djlewis> ihell, just the size, something I can see :P
  • [05:34:24] <ds2> I see... so you like using DIP packages
  • [05:34:37] <torusle> okay, time to get some sleep..
  • [05:34:42] <torusle> see ya, guys..
  • [05:34:42] * djlewis has no electron microscope yet :(
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  • [05:34:49] <djlewis> night
  • [05:35:14] <djlewis> I do have a big Luxo magnifier lamp :) helps.
  • [05:35:37] <ds2> BAH... those things get in the way for 0603 or bigger stuff
  • [05:35:47] <ds2> a 10x loupe is useful for inspection though
  • [05:35:58] * djlewis feels itsy bitsy soic's or whatever are fine for production but not for experimenting
  • [05:36:23] <ds2> SOIC's itsbitsy? hmmmmmmmm
  • [05:36:34] <djlewis> the whatever part
  • [05:36:38] <nrossi> SOIC's too big... :P
  • [05:36:44] <ds2> indeed
  • [05:37:15] <djlewis> oh, you want to probe around on those tiny little farts .
  • [05:37:37] <ds2> djlewis: so waht do you think about a complete design using TO-92 transistors as the "smallest" part?
  • [05:37:39] <djlewis> even the needle tip on my 100mHZ tek probe is too big.
  • [05:38:11] <djlewis> ds2: U are getting away from your plan here.
  • [05:38:22] <djlewis> it sounded good a while back.
  • [05:38:25] <ds2> djlewis: how so?
  • [05:38:54] <djlewis> [23:33] <ds2> whatever board has to be simple so people can probe it and play with it (and maybe even reuse it)... something built with 74xxx chips in DIP packages driving LEDs...maybe with discrete transistors to do the power driving of that LED
  • [05:39:08] <nrossi> no ds2... use TO-3 transitors :D
  • [05:39:32] <ds2> djlewis: and how does TO-92's move away?
  • [05:39:37] <ds2> nrossi: I suppose so ;)
  • [05:39:48] <djlewis> if you promote a learning kit that is durable and digital...
  • [05:40:06] <ds2> TO-92's work as digital switches
  • [05:40:12] <djlewis> I had a transistor built computer a long time ago.
  • [05:40:30] <ds2> it'll still use the 74xxx SSI chips ffor most things but for ancilary stuff a transistor is easier to understand
  • [05:40:35] <djlewis> lots of s44 plugin cards in a big metal desk.
  • [05:40:58] <djlewis> each card had a few to-3 transistors for flip-flops
  • [05:41:13] <djlewis> not to-3.. to- ( can size)
  • [05:41:19] <ds2> Oh...sorry, misspoke... didn't mean a complete pure discrete design
  • [05:42:00] <djlewis> yep, I dont promote the dark ages of digital / analog
  • [05:42:34] <nrossi> maybe it should just be a pcb that brings out the IO to a breadboard (at 5V TTL or something) :P that way you can do anything :)
  • [05:42:37] <ds2> transistors make a simple level translator for one thing
  • [05:42:51] <turtle_> cool i got mplayer working on the beagleboard
  • [05:42:59] <djlewis> but slow with ramp transitions
  • [05:43:15] <ds2> it can be slow but ramp??????
  • [05:43:32] <ds2> how do you get it THAT slow?
  • [05:43:45] <djlewis> transistors take a lot os work to make clean level transistions
  • [05:44:22] <djlewis> hey, our little BB is a 500Mhz board. so I/O can be somewhat fast.
  • [05:44:35] <ds2> got an example? because it works just fine for many things... that's exactly what is inside the chips
  • [05:44:59] <djlewis> I realize that. How many transistors make the little omap?
  • [05:45:03] <djlewis> not the point
  • [05:45:25] <ds2> not talking about the OMAP... just talking about a basic level translator
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  • [05:45:30] <ds2> i.e. an inverter gate
  • [05:45:33] <djlewis> cause it takes several transistors to switch a clean hi/lo
  • [05:46:01] <djlewis> they make great analog devices.
  • [05:46:04] <ds2> several? 2
  • [05:46:20] <ds2> drive the gates/base hard
  • [05:46:42] <ds2> granted in BJTs, you get icky miller (I think) cap effects
  • [05:46:56] <ds2> but then that's why they have LS devices
  • [05:46:57] <djlewis> I see a xister is fine for driving a hi current load but ttl or cmos is best for the logic.
  • [05:47:12] <djlewis> in a learning board
  • [05:47:41] <ds2> some parts are not available in DIP packages
  • [05:47:55] <nrossi> what kind of speeds do you want on a beginners kit???
  • [05:48:02] <djlewis> yep, I am finding this truth :P
  • [05:48:20] * djlewis has pounds of ttl IC's around
  • [05:49:15] <djlewis> I am simply saying that for a learning board that components should be large enough to probe
  • [05:49:22] <ds2> bottom line is I want to stir to pot to get more interesting projects to read about
  • [05:49:23] <djlewis> and replace by a novice
  • [05:50:35] * djlewis sees no point in teaching a novice his project is too small to do anything with. without maybe destroying it.
  • [05:50:49] <ds2> exactly
  • [05:51:02] <ds2> the 0.1 header on the beagle really helps here
  • [05:51:12] <djlewis> i dunno ds2
  • [05:51:31] <djlewis> I read two people have shorted +5 to the next pin and killed beagle
  • [05:51:39] <ds2> heheehheheh
  • [05:51:46] <nrossi> novices like they audrino's? maybe you can have a board to use audrino shields?
  • [05:52:02] <ds2> isn't that one of the proposed TCT boards?
  • [05:52:28] <djlewis> sounds familiar
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  • [05:53:00] <djlewis> I dont think even auduino is very stakable.
  • [05:54:16] <djlewis> I was looking at some of the auduino bds and they seem to replicate i/o usage.
  • [05:54:28] <djlewis> of the main bd
  • [05:55:13] <djlewis> which is fine if there is a adderssing or selection method builtin for multipurpose of pin use.
  • [05:56:32] <djlewis> ds2: I'd like for you to keep that tutorial thought in mind.
  • [05:56:48] <djlewis> I need to let some pups out for a breather and hit the sack soon.
  • [05:57:42] <ds2> 'k
  • [05:58:22] * djlewis often wonders what #beagle channel users are doing when not talking.. a big project? just sittin round drinking beer and eating pizza,?
  • [05:58:36] <djlewis> hehee..
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  • [06:08:41] <djlewis> night all.
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  • [06:10:16] <hinv> Howdy
  • [06:10:35] <hinv> anybody here got a touchbook?
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  • [13:15:39] <mru> morning
  • [13:15:57] <mru> we have small problem over here at fosdem
  • [13:16:21] <mru> we have a beagle with blank nand and x-loader is refusing to read u-boot from sd
  • [13:16:22] <mru> ideas?
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  • [13:32:48] <torusle> mru: but mlo can read xload?
  • [13:34:41] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [13:35:17] <Crofton|work> have you run through the recovery process?
  • [13:35:58] <Crofton|work> and mlo annouces it has loaded?
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  • [14:39:17] <_av500_> Crofton|work: flickr.com/photos/av500
  • [14:39:24] <_av500_> ill upload more
  • [14:42:13] <Crofton> thanks _av500_
  • [14:42:53] <_av500_> one bb is still down :(
  • [14:43:01] <Crofton> hmm
  • [14:43:04] <Crofton> that is weird
  • [14:43:13] <_av500_> but we already have all ppl stop in awe
  • [14:43:17] <Crofton> you could stop buy the oe stand and see if there is a spare
  • [14:44:50] <_av500_> the spare from oe refuses to do what we tell it
  • [14:45:07] <_av500_> must be damaged by running agstrom all the time
  • [14:45:14] <Crofton> heh
  • [14:45:19] * Crofton slaps _av500_
  • [14:45:36] <_av500_> mru is on it again...
  • [14:45:41] <_av500_> there is hope
  • [14:46:26] <Crofton> working through the recovery procedure should work
  • [14:46:34] <Crofton> well tell people to do it all the time :)
  • [14:48:47] <_av500_> yes
  • [14:48:56] <_av500_> i told mru immediately
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  • [14:55:37] <Crofton> I am trying to setup pinmuc via kernel commandline :)
  • [14:57:03] <_av500_> gee
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  • [15:00:24] <Crofton> in the ball characteristic table
  • [15:00:37] <Crofton> the default mode is the reset rel mode?
  • [15:00:58] <Crofton> a lot of them seem to be defalted to mode 7 safe mode ...
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  • [15:09:00] <sakoman> Crofton: gm! I have an OE question for you :-)
  • [15:09:25] <sakoman> I'm trying to build the x-load from the TI zoom respository
  • [15:09:42] <sakoman> and I get this error from my recipe:
  • [15:09:47] <sakoman> | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: ERROR: Source object /home/sakoman/source/omap3-oe/tmp/cross/armv7a/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/libgcc.a(_divsi3.o) has EABI version 4, but target x-load has EABI version 0
  • [15:10:16] <sakoman> what would make OE think that I want EABI version 0 for x-load??
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  • [15:15:17] <Crofton> urg
  • [15:15:45] <Crofton> thats a weird one
  • [15:16:25] <sakoman> indeed! I don't even know where to begin!
  • [15:16:43] <Crofton> ask in #oe
  • [15:16:56] <sakoman> will do, thanks
  • [15:17:15] <Crofton> did you see my mux question
  • [15:17:25] <Crofton> seems like lots of stuff defaults to safe_mode
  • [15:23:02] <_av500_> Crofton|work: it works!
  • [15:23:08] <Crofton> yay
  • [15:23:11] <Crofton> congrats
  • [15:23:14] <_av500_> Crofton|work: flickr.com/photos/av500
  • [15:23:29] <_av500_> ping jkridner|work to write abiout it :)
  • [15:24:07] <sakoman> Crofton: the hw defaults to safe mode, but u-boot configures most of the pins
  • [15:24:31] <Crofton> ah
  • [15:24:42] <sakoman> so by the time the os is running not too many pins are in safe mode
  • [15:24:52] <Crofton> ok that makes sense
  • [15:25:07] <sakoman> xload does a few too
  • [15:25:12] <Crofton> I was wondering why the default I observed is different than the doc :)
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  • [15:25:44] <sakoman> now that I am mucking about in xload again I realize just how hideous that code is
  • [15:25:49] <Crofton> crap
  • [15:25:57] <Crofton> how did you get mixed up in it ?
  • [15:26:37] <sakoman> a client is building a machine with no mmc, so I need an easy way to flash nand without mmc
  • [15:26:55] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [15:27:00] <Crofton|work> fool :)
  • [15:27:20] <sakoman> so I want to build an x-load that can download u-boot over serial
  • [15:28:17] <sakoman> I foolishly thought I would grab one of ti's later x-loads, thinking it might be improved over what I've been using
  • [15:29:17] <Crofton> TI is getting better about being open, next they need to learn about making the code look good :)
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  • [16:54:32] <_av500_> sakomn why not full usb boot?
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  • [17:27:04] <koen> sakoman: that EABI error really means that you're linking OABI things to EABI things
  • [17:27:22] <koen> sakoman: e.g. some muppet hardcodes -apcs-gnu in makefiles
  • [17:29:54] <Crofton> anyone know what csi2_dx1 means wrt to omap3 pins?
  • [17:30:39] <koen> sakoman: have a look at http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/plain/recipes/u-boot/files/uboot-eabi-fix-HACK.patch
  • [17:30:50] <koen> sakoman: or port over the bits from a sane xloader
  • [17:31:43] <koen> sakoman: to put things in perspective, the omapzoom uboot still has the L1NEON bug so you need http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0001-OMAP3-set-L1NEON-bit-in-aux-control-register.patch
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  • [17:33:22] <koen> ow, still in memphis
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  • [19:20:40] <ssvb> koen: your patch removes the line responsible for setting IBE bit, which is going to break any thumb code badly on r1pX revisions of Cortex-A8 (if anybody is using thumb of course)
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  • [20:22:10] <djlewis> gm
  • [20:22:39] <djlewis> mru , av500 video wall looks great :)
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  • [20:39:59] <ynezz> av500: nice one, any details about it somewhere? :)
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  • [21:25:57] <Hick> Can beagleboard's OMAP sink another 180??A on its AF14 pin?
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  • [22:27:38] <sakoman> koen: thanks for the hint!
  • [22:28:06] <sakoman> I fear that trying to use the xload from the zoom repo was a bad idea
  • [22:29:07] <sakoman> their xload source tree still contains *many* links to files outside the tree
  • [22:29:31] <sakoman> they count on you cloning an ancient u-boot at the same level as your xload clone
  • [22:36:39] <Crofton> they should be beaten!
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  • [22:44:45] <Geof> hello
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  • [22:54:32] <Crofton> florian, how is fosdem?
  • [22:56:41] <sakoman> Crofton: much snow out your way?
  • [22:57:09] <Crofton> we only got around 8 "
  • [22:57:22] <Crofton> sounds like they are getting hammered north of us though
  • [22:58:23] <sakoman> we had thunderstorms last night & earlier today
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  • [22:59:46] <Crofton> I need to fly to sfo in a week
  • [22:59:52] <Crofton> hopefully things slow down some
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  • [23:02:01] <Crofton|work> you need to come down from the mountains in the last half of feb :)
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