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  • [01:25:53] <djlewis> the cold air is descending upon us :(
  • [01:26:37] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, yoou can keep it
  • [01:26:41] * cwillu_at_work is sick of 30 below
  • [01:27:14] <cwillu_at_work> I am _not_ looking forward to january/febuary weather here
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  • [01:33:11] <djlewis> you hung out on one of the polar caps?
  • [01:33:54] <cwillu_at_work> saskatoon, saskatchewan
  • [01:33:55] <wandern> Non weather question, if anyone's up for it...
  • [01:34:07] <wandern> getting familiar with the art of crosscompiling...
  • [01:34:11] <cwillu_at_work> -26 right now (feels like -37 they say)
  • [01:34:17] <wandern> gcc4.4 options for beagle (3530)
  • [01:34:43] <wandern> should the mfpu be set to neon or vfpv3?
  • [01:35:08] <wandern> and should mfloat-abi be set to softfp or hard?
  • [01:35:40] * cwillu_at_work just uses a binary distro :p
  • [01:35:48] <wandern> cwillu: ugh
  • [01:35:59] <wandern> lived just south of you for 5 years... worst 5 years of my life
  • [01:36:09] <cwillu_at_work> where, dundurn?
  • [01:36:43] <cwillu_at_work> or by "just south" did you mean like hours south?
  • [01:37:06] <wandern> well, just south of Sasketchwan
  • [01:37:10] <wandern> Montana
  • [01:37:13] <cwillu_at_work> ah, well, that's just silly then
  • [01:37:39] <wandern> silly to what part?
  • [01:37:55] <cwillu_at_work> "In winter, I will live in Montana, and I will buy a pick-up truck, and I will drive from state to state"
  • [01:37:57] <wandern> (not sure where in Saskatchewan you're in)
  • [01:38:05] <cwillu_at_work> "perhaps I will need two wives" '''oh, at least'''
  • [01:38:29] <wandern> Hunt for Red October?
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  • [01:39:10] <cwillu_at_work> the border is 5 hours south of me
  • [01:39:14] <cwillu_at_work> (yes)
  • [01:40:08] <wandern> Good thing he died... if he ever got stuck in Montana, he'd have shot himself
  • [01:40:13] <wandern> east part is a wasteland
  • [01:40:38] <cwillu_at_work> been like 15 years since I've been down south
  • [01:41:21] <cwillu_at_work> picked up the nickname "underwater" that time, as the dakotas had some major flooding at the same time we drove through
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  • [02:20:39] <pakora> I have a NEC LCD (Mode: NL6448BC33), would that work with the beagleboard? Will I need anything extra to make this work?
  • [02:21:06] <djlewis> pakora, does it have a DVI input?
  • [02:21:22] <pakora> no its just an lcd screen panel
  • [02:22:14] <pakora> It has two wires coming out of it, they dont look like any standard vga/dvi connectors
  • [02:22:21] <djlewis> so you want to hardwire it to the BB lcd interface not the hdmi
  • [02:22:46] <pakora> yeah I was just trying to find some info on google, figured the lcd interface would be my best bet
  • [02:23:01] <pakora> wasn't sure if its compatible or not
  • [02:24:41] <djlewis> looks like a notebook screen.
  • [02:25:15] <pakora> this is the one: http://www.skyeaglet.com/syssite/home/shop/1/pictures/productsimg/big/102.jpg
  • [02:25:17] <djlewis> seems you would have to build a signal level translator to connect it to the BB lcd header
  • [02:26:04] <pakora> I have no idea what that is. haha
  • [02:26:18] <pakora> Would an older laptop's lcd be a better choice?
  • [02:26:53] <djlewis> notebook lcd's have digital wiring that you have to understand to wire to a BB
  • [02:27:13] <djlewis> it is no simple plug in and use.
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  • [02:27:43] <pakora> right, I'm sure it takes a bit of understanding and work. I'm willing to learn and try. just need some advice/guidance
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  • [02:27:56] <pakora> sort of need to get an idea of what exactly would I need to get before I get started
  • [02:29:45] <djlewis> pakora, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=S1K&q=beagleboard+lcd+panel&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
  • [02:31:40] <pakora> yeah, I already started googling it. came here to see if there's something specific I should be looking for
  • [02:31:55] <pakora> I have this LCD and maybe an old laptop's lcd that I can try to use or even get a new one.
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  • [02:53:51] <wandern> ahh... so you're looking to take an old laptop lcd screen, remove it from the frame, and connect it to the beagleboard?
  • [02:54:08] <cwillu_at_work> wait, you can do that?!
  • [02:54:14] <wandern> there is an LCD header on the later revision Beagleboards...
  • [02:54:27] <wandern> cwillu: laptop screens also have that flex connector to the rest of the laptop
  • [02:54:41] <wandern> but I expect the pinout is proprietary... but who knows
  • [02:55:17] <wandern> if the pinout is compatible... guess it's possible
  • [02:55:34] <wandern> would be nice if it worked... as you can get laptops as junk
  • [02:55:51] <wandern> get a nice lcd screen and use as a picture frame, or whatever
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  • [04:20:38] * djlewis wouldn't waste his BeagleBoard as a picture frame :P
  • [04:21:04] <djlewis> But! I would interface a picture frame panel to my BB
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  • [05:06:16] <wandern> djlewis: I would use a BB as a set-top box to a TV, with camera, maybe some video conferencing... that also served as a picture frame panel (good camouflage)
  • [05:06:39] <wandern> not that I have a beagle yet... stupid backorder
  • [05:07:11] <cwillu_at_work> yay, xsplash has submitted to my will
  • [05:07:18] <cwillu_at_work> seamless transition into my application :)
  • [05:07:34] <cwillu_at_work> how to get 1280x1024 scrolling performance to be acceptable :p
  • [05:07:38] <cwillu_at_work> s/how/now/
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  • [05:11:11] <djlewis> wandern, sounds cool.
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  • [08:04:49] <_av500_> gm and merry xmas
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  • [09:16:42] <mru> merry xmas
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  • [11:17:47] <topi_> i would want to compile a christmas kernel for the beagle. where can be the beagle patches for tmlind's linux-omap be found?
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  • [13:07:42] <Crofton> merry christmas
  • [13:08:02] <Crofton> mru, is this true?
  • [13:08:03] <Crofton> http://www.slate.com/id/2239252/pagenum/all/#p2
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  • [13:54:20] <djlewis> yo ho and a merry christmas, brrr...
  • [13:54:40] <Crofton> not so cold here
  • [13:59:46] <djlewis> teens F
  • [14:02:23] <sakoman_> Merry Christmas Crofton, djlewis!
  • [14:03:05] <Crofton> gm!
  • [14:03:27] <djlewis> gm sakoman_
  • [14:03:34] <sakoman_> topi: for 2.6.32: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-2.6.32
  • [14:03:48] <Crofton> 65 here
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  • [14:04:31] <sakoman_> Crofton: should get close to that here, but it is still dark now :-)
  • [14:04:35] <Crofton> heh
  • [14:04:39] <Crofton> light here :)
  • [14:06:40] <sakoman_> ah, coffee :-)
  • [14:10:26] <djlewis> mm mmm, hot first cup of coffee here..
  • [14:11:20] <djlewis> temps would be tolerable cept for the 20 to 35 mph winds.
  • [14:13:11] <djlewis> checked my socks this morning and found only lint inside.. :(
  • [14:14:04] * djlewis thinks Santa's gps quit before he found me.
  • [14:15:47] <mru> Crofton: I'm afraid it is true
  • [14:15:55] <Crofton> heh
  • [14:17:51] * sakoman_ is enjoying that Swedish tradition while he drinks his coffee
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  • [14:22:23] * djlewis would like cartoons...
  • [14:22:33] <djlewis> still no tv here.
  • [14:22:49] <Sn0wman> I'm 15 and my parents got me a fucking desk for christmas... which was my "big" present...
  • [14:22:54] <Sn0wman> yipty doo...
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  • [14:25:37] <djlewis> hehee, it is so cold my dogs charged the door to go out this morn but fought to get back in just halfway out the door ...
  • [14:25:52] <Sn0wman> hehe
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  • [14:33:23] * djlewis watches cartoon on page Crofton link'd :)
  • [14:35:36] <Crofton> Sn0wman, I don't actually want anything for Christmas
  • [14:35:48] <Crofton> mostly I want my wife to like her ipod touch
  • [14:36:43] <Sn0wman> well I don't have a wife and I didn't either... but a desk? that is something you go buy on the weekend, not give on christmas
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  • [14:39:22] <mlip> hej, anyone can help me enabling the uart2 on bb? (or give me some hints). i've figured out that i need to enable uboot/kernel mux, but actually didnt find any bb specific files in my uboot working copy (and actually dont know which deines are needed ;p)
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  • [15:33:22] <topi_> i wanted a touch book for christmas... still haven't seen the damn book :(
  • [15:34:13] <topi_> mlip: i think the kernel can also mux the uart2 for you. unless you checked "trust bootloader mux" or something
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  • [15:38:37] <Crofton> I was told I can't suggest anymore circuit changes for Christmas :)
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  • [15:43:54] <lifeeth> :D
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  • [16:15:44] <topi_> how to install google chrome on the openembedded demo rootfs?
  • [16:17:03] <Aditya__> google chrome is an app
  • [16:17:25] <Aditya__> if there is a build of it for the distribution/architecture you are using you can just install it after booting into your board
  • [16:17:43] <Aditya__> like any other app
  • [16:20:19] <topi_> what about the Openembedded demo system that came with my BB?
  • [16:20:32] <topi_> is there a ipkg for it and how do I search for it?
  • [16:22:33] <mlip> topi_: have you already enabled kernel based muxing on a bb? I am kindy stuck in the tutorial at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPinMux#UART2 . My problem is that i dont know why i need to define an additional GPIO pin (and the english description is actualy not that english ;p)
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  • [16:29:03] <topi_> mlip: it says that those examples are only relevant to a B6 board. which rev is your beagle?
  • [16:30:40] <topi_> and it also explains why the additional GPIO is neede
  • [16:30:41] <topi_> d
  • [16:31:10] <mlip> topi_: i actually have a revC one, but the GPIO pins (140-143) are the same
  • [16:31:34] <mlip> "The next thing you will need to do is define another pin as UART2_RX won't work unless you define it, so do this:"
  • [16:31:36] <mlip> makes no sense ?
  • [16:32:14] <topi_> This defines it so that UART2_RX is only being used once as RX.
  • [16:32:56] <topi_> simply put, you don't want your RX pin connected to two different GPIOs, would you?
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  • [16:34:16] <mlip> no i dont want, but actually on my rev, there is no GPIO147 specified in the expansion header. thus i dont need to disable (set mode4) it ?
  • [16:36:01] <topi_> umm, don't confuse GPIOs with the expansion header
  • [16:36:13] <topi_> the exp header just routes some certain OMAP3 pins out from the board
  • [16:36:31] <topi_> and everything GPIO is inside the OMAP3 chip
  • [16:36:36] <mlip> ah, so the omap processor uses another GPIO147 ?
  • [16:36:38] <mlip> ok ;)
  • [16:37:13] <topi_> please have a look at some kind of diagram to clarify what is meant when some OMAP signals are being routed to the OMAP pins and further to the expansion connector
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  • [16:37:41] <topi_> get the OMAP3530 reference manual, it will come in handy
  • [16:37:51] <topi_> although it is a really heavy pdf
  • [16:38:20] <mlip> i have it open, but got lost in the different OMAP3530 packages and what my specific version of the bb uses
  • [16:39:53] <topi_> look at your /proc/cpuinfo and what the Revision field says
  • [16:40:03] <topi_> mine says Revision 0020 and this is a C2 beagle.
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  • [16:41:21] <mlip> thx will have a look at that and the manual http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap3530.pdf , which is hopefully the right one (the link in the wiki is dead)
  • [16:42:18] <topi_> there's a chapter on "MUXING", and if i recall correctly there's a nice representation of how the internal signals of the OMAP chip get routed to the pins and so on
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  • [16:50:57] <mlip> can't find the chapter, but i think i can handle the rest myself. the problem was that i couldnt think of why i needed an additional gpio and thus didnt want to copy everything.
  • [16:51:30] <mlip> have found the additional gpio pin the TI tech doc now, and it is clear why i need to disable it ;)
  • [16:52:05] <mlip> thx !
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  • [17:03:07] <guaqua> topi_: do you have any suggestions on where to buy bb if you live in finland?
  • [17:04:42] <topi_> no :( i ordered mine from digi-key
  • [17:05:47] <guaqua> did you also order other stuff along with it? (i'm thinking of getting some kind of serial-adapter into the pins)
  • [17:05:55] <guaqua> and what about the power supply?
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  • [17:15:24] <topi_> guaqua: i didn't order any power supply with it, mine's running off of USB 5v:)
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  • [17:15:48] <guaqua> ooh. okay :)
  • [17:16:13] <topi_> theere is a "standard" 10-pin row on the BB where you can hook an ordinary rs232 piece from an old PC to
  • [17:16:24] <guaqua> i'm planning on implementing a temperature control device for the summer cabin and i'd need a separate power supply
  • [17:16:57] <guaqua> do you know if one could actually get a 3g adapter, wlan + wired network through usb at the same time? :)
  • [17:20:06] <topi_> guaqua: that's called "USB hub"
  • [17:20:27] <topi_> my beagle has 1 hub in it, and it has only 1 device (an ethernet adapter)
  • [17:20:41] <guaqua> okay
  • [17:20:42] <topi_> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [17:20:42] <topi_> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0525:a4aa Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB CDC Composite Gadge (Ethernet and ACM)
  • [17:20:45] <topi_> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2001:3c05 D-Link Corp. [hex] DUB-E100 Fast Ethernet [asix]
  • [17:20:48] <topi_> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
  • [17:20:51] <topi_> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [17:20:58] <guaqua> but there shouldn't be any limit on how many devices one is able to add to it through usb?
  • [17:21:06] <guaqua> s/add/connect
  • [17:21:32] <topi_> well, if they finally get the ehci issues fixed, then it should work with as many devices as you can plug :)
  • [17:22:08] <topi_> wait for the C4 rev of the beagle, it should have the ehci fixed.
  • [17:22:11] <guaqua> is there some eta on those issues, or even an educated guess on when it might be fixed?
  • [17:22:25] <guaqua> is there a release date on it?
  • [17:22:51] <topi_> 15th of january IIRC
  • [17:23:07] <guaqua> ooh. very nice
  • [17:23:10] <guaqua> gotta wait a bit then
  • [17:23:23] <guaqua> and develop the rest of the software stack beforehand
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  • [18:01:18] <djlewis> bbl
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  • [18:32:37] <wandern> good morning and Merry Christmas, all
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