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  • [00:04:20] <RichiH> if there were ever trolls in here, no one could get ops
  • [00:05:17] <mikhas> I thought I could so with having a a) registered nick, b) register a channel with chanserv?
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  • [00:18:55] <jkridner|work> I submitted a request. Let's see if I get it.
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  • [00:37:19] <rs> anyone seen this before
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  • [01:40:05] <www> hi I am unable install gstreamer in BeagleBoard...I am having an angstrom distribution... Please help me...
  • [01:40:50] <www> i didnot get u
  • [01:41:45] <www> C3
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  • [03:51:37] <lifeeth> :)
  • [03:51:44] <cwillu_at_work> is that a common issue?
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  • [05:39:24] <aqw> hi to all,http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian it mentions non qemu method require LCD .is it possible to do native install via debain-installer (non-qemu based) using minicom?
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  • [05:50:49] <ZeZu> with a usb2eth adapter maybe
  • [05:51:12] <ZeZu> you need 2 things for that method, working debootstrap and somewhere to get the packages
  • [05:52:43] <ZeZu> I suppose if you have connection sharing hooked up through USB it may work too, b/c when its finished you should have a useable system
  • [05:54:07] <aqw> i have usb2eth
  • [05:54:45] <ZeZu> well then i see no reason why you can't make it work
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  • [05:55:20] <ZeZu> those guides aren't the only method of doing things, just nice people documented the way they've made it work
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  • [05:56:42] <aqw> ZeZu, i have installed using debootstrap till base system but while installing gdm it is throwing error
  • [05:57:34] <aqw> EXT3-fs error (device sdb2): ext3_find_entry: reading directory #2 offset 0
  • [05:57:42] <aqw> ext3_abort called.
  • [05:58:09] <ZeZu> and your using the correct repos. for omap3 based debian ?
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  • [05:58:12] <ZeZu> mojo or whatever ?
  • [05:58:34] <ZeZu> there are some things you can't install under chroot also
  • [05:58:58] <ZeZu> not sure on gdm, but after you have base system installed i'd boot into it and install the other things under runlevel 0
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  • [06:14:21] <aqw> ZeZu, we can install gdm in chroot as well i am using correct repo
  • [06:14:29] <aqw> i will try with boot
  • [06:15:04] <aqw> in 50 MB fat partition anything require to add
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  • [07:44:27] <pp__> hi!! can anybody tell me how do i use dsp on bealeboard for my application????
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  • [07:45:03] <pp__> i am able to run the sample dsp programs but now i need to use dsp for my application program
  • [07:49:26] <pp__> can some please answer my question
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  • [08:00:12] <mamin> Good day,ppl. Has anybody tried to upload on BB uImage via USB?
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  • [08:28:57] <av500> pp__: use the samples, learn from them and apply to your SW...
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  • [08:33:57] <mamin> Good day,ppl. Has anybody tried to upload on BB uImage via USB?
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  • [08:40:23] <ynezz> while true; do ircmsg('#beagleboard', 'Good day,ppl. Has anybody tried to upload on BB uImage via USB?); sleep 1980; done
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  • [10:26:32] <hrw> morning
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  • [10:34:04] <av500> gm
  • [10:35:15] <florian> hi av500
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  • [11:45:13] <mru> morning
  • [11:45:47] <Crofton|work> gm
  • [11:46:47] <_koen_> 'morning all
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  • [11:58:18] <DJWillis> _koen_: morning
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  • [12:01:19] <Crofton> Hopefully, the wifi is good :)
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  • [12:48:26] <shameed> Hi.. I am new to Beagleboard. The beagleboard shopping list mentions about the need of a DVI-D monitor. I have a laptop running ubuntu. Can my laptop's lcd display be used to view the output from the beagle (in addition to using the display for regular purposes).
  • [12:49:27] <mru> I've never seen a laptop with dvi input
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  • [12:52:16] <av500> shameed: only using something like VNC
  • [12:52:47] <mru> not good for video ;-)
  • [12:53:58] <av500> qcif ftw
  • [12:54:53] <mru> sure, if they made animated postage stamps
  • [12:55:26] <shameed> all i intend to do to start with is - to flash an image of linux onto the beagle and would like to see it booting
  • [12:55:42] <mru> rs232
  • [12:56:16] <shameed> ok .. rs232 to see the boot logs ..correct?
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  • [12:57:55] <shameed> any other suggestions like connecting a small lcd display to the beagle?
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  • [12:58:32] <mru> a dvi monitor is by far the simplest
  • [12:58:38] <mru> or if text is enough, rs232
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  • [13:01:58] <shameed> dvi monitors are the normal lcd monitors that r avlbl in the markets ..correct? or are they any different?
  • [13:02:44] <shameed> thx mru .. i dont have a dvi monitor and am looking at a cheap alternative just to be used with the beagle
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  • [14:46:24] <DJWillis> tomba: ping, can I ask (what may well be a really stupid DSS2 question). Does it work with the old OMAPFB option to take it on trust that the bootloader has setup the LCD? Just pondering ways to get a slick smooth screen presentation from turn on to desktop.
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  • [14:53:33] <tomba> DJWillis: not quite. N900 kernel has hacks for it, but I don't have them on my DSS2 tree
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  • [15:16:50] <DJWillis> tomba: ta, I was trying to avoid the usual 'hacktastic' option ;)
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  • [16:11:56] <www> i have a game app with beagle board... need to send keyboard controls to server through LAN.... How can i design and implement the back path from the BB to server? Please help me....
  • [16:12:24] <mru> ethernet?
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  • [16:12:53] <XorA> mru: dont be silly we want gamers to get exercise, sneaker net
  • [16:13:22] <av500> what is the path from server to BB?
  • [16:13:32] <_koen_> the golden path
  • [16:13:57] <XorA> over Mount Everast, through Moria, past Loth Lorien
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  • [16:14:53] <_koen_> sorry
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  • [16:15:56] <av500> me too for the 1st 15 ys or so...
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  • [16:40:52] <www> @av500 i stream video from vlc player to bb through http and port 9090
  • [16:41:10] <www> @av500 i.e from server to bb
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  • [16:45:11] <Nushio> oh, wrong room :P
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  • [18:04:39] <Ratnesh> hey does anyone here know the part number of the power supply needed for the beagleboard (say from digikey?)
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  • [18:05:07] <Ratnesh> basically the deal is i can't find a side view of the board to see what the power pins look like.
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  • [18:08:14] <Ratnesh> hey mru would u be able to help me out?
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  • [18:08:43] <mru> it should be documented somewhere
  • [18:08:53] <av500> BBSRM
  • [18:08:58] <av500> BDSM
  • [18:09:07] <mru> BSD
  • [18:09:50] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Schematic
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  • [18:10:07] <ojn> section iv: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList
  • [18:10:13] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Manual
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  • [18:12:49] <Ratnesh> o wow i found this websitehttp://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList
  • [18:13:03] <Ratnesh> its got stuff for Rev C0
  • [18:13:12] <mru> same
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  • [18:13:48] <Ratnesh> right ... coz the manual discusses differences between c2 and c3 .. no info about c0
  • [18:14:12] <av500> its barrel connectors all the way down...
  • [18:14:54] <av500> but before you buy a power supply from DK for $16.63, buy a powered usb hub for $5...
  • [18:15:13] <Ratnesh> i see ..
  • [18:15:35] <Batko_Marto> Hey guys, does anyone else get soft lockup when trying to boot 2.6.31 kernel?
  • [18:15:42] <Ratnesh> so ur saying the hub might do it for cheaper?
  • [18:15:48] <Batko_Marto> I can't seem to be able to boot that kernel
  • [18:15:57] <av500> Ratnesh: Im saying 16$ for a 5v supply is expensive...
  • [18:16:20] <Batko_Marto> Here's the output I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/m283d0cc2
  • [18:16:23] <Ratnesh> it sure is av500
  • [18:16:30] <av500> but then thats DK, they'll airlift it to wherever you are in a day if needed :)
  • [18:16:48] <Ratnesh> right about taht
  • [18:17:16] <av500> Batko_Marto: CPU#0 is stuck, and no CPU#1(yet)
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  • [18:17:22] <Batko_Marto> yep
  • [18:17:32] <av500> omap4 will have one :)
  • [18:18:01] <Batko_Marto> i have a beagleboard though
  • [18:18:35] <Batko_Marto> av500: do you know how to fix that?
  • [18:18:42] <av500> looks like it is stuck in modprobe, what was it trying to load?
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  • [18:19:10] <Batko_Marto> i'm not sure
  • [18:19:32] <Batko_Marto> even if i have nothing connected to it it still gets stuck there
  • [18:19:41] <Batko_Marto> it says PC is at omap_i2c_isr+0x290/0x368
  • [18:20:51] <av500> maybe it waits to find a device that is NOT there...
  • [18:21:17] <av500> like this rtc_ds1307 which is not on the BB, but on the zippy....
  • [18:21:48] <Batko_Marto> the default kernel has that built in.
  • [18:21:54] <Batko_Marto> i'll try removing it.
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  • [18:38:10] <ds2> morning
  • [18:38:30] <mru> morning ds2
  • [18:39:04] <av500> gm
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  • [18:44:56] <ds2> quiet morning...must be the 4 day old turkey at work
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  • [19:16:09] * ds2 throws scooby snacks around
  • [19:17:15] <bullyalcy> Folks need some advice...If I am to use VNC, should I use USB Ethernet/wifi dongle with the board....or should I make use of the serial connection instead
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  • [19:18:16] <ds2> Mmmmm serial VNC... dripping molasses in -10F must be very entertaining to you too ;)
  • [19:18:55] <bullyalcy> alright...thought I'd ask anyway...
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  • [19:19:42] <ds2> :D
  • [19:19:51] <ds2> most PC serial ports top out at 115200
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  • [19:20:04] <ds2> so you would be slower then an ISDN line, and faster then most dialup modems
  • [19:20:37] <av500> 1mbit is easy :)
  • [19:20:40] <bullyalcy> all of that just from the fear of my USB ethernet/wifi not working....so hope they work !
  • [19:21:00] <av500> but there is also I2C :)
  • [19:21:02] <ds2> USB wifi/ethernet?
  • [19:21:15] <ds2> if you want alternatives, use the USBnet stuff
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  • [19:21:33] <ds2> av500: SPI please... I like to blast my bits at 48Mbs ;)
  • [19:21:38] <bullyalcy> USB Ethernet/Wifi dongle to attach to the board
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  • [20:20:28] <ds2> BAH... mixing toolchains is not that horrible
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  • [20:24:45] <mru> I mix compilers all the time
  • [20:24:51] <mru> as long as they all stick to eabi you're fine
  • [20:24:57] <mru> c++ issues aside
  • [20:28:55] <adj> is he who is saying that compilers can't be mixed, essentially also saying that programs cannot be distributed in binary format unless it's made sure they are compiled with the same compiler as the rest of the system?
  • [20:29:11] <adj> java shit aside.
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  • [20:31:47] <Zygo> programs work less often if they are not built with the same compiler as the libraries they're trying to link to. That doesn't mean they don't work at all, or don't work in many common circumstances
  • [20:32:02] <Zygo> and it says nothing about other circumstances in which programs might not work
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  • [20:58:13] <ds2> you can mix ABIs, just got to be damn careful when you do ;)
  • [20:58:21] <ds2> if anything is to blame, it is libtool
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  • [21:13:45] <_av500_> not canada?
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  • [21:14:53] <ds2> :D
  • [21:15:08] <ds2> the ice excuses them
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  • [21:23:28] <gi> anyone know when the boards will be in stock again?
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  • [21:28:05] <sakoman__> gi: January was what I heard
  • [21:28:54] <gi> thanks <sakoman__>
  • [21:29:43] <gi> anyone working on SATA interface, specifically for DVD drives and SSD connections?
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  • [21:32:00] <ds2> did the USB ones not work?
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  • [21:33:08] <prpplague> sakoman__: when was that?
  • [21:33:15] <prpplague> sakoman__: the last one i say was april or may
  • [21:33:23] <prpplague> s/say/saw
  • [21:34:55] <ds2> prpplague: last's mail from Gerald
  • [21:35:00] <ds2> last week's
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  • [21:37:28] <prpplague> ds: hmm on the 22nd gerald posted - "That means you will get 14 C3F boards and the rest will be C4. But, they are currently way out there. Maybe April or May, unless something happens to get us the parts sooner."
  • [21:37:45] <prpplague> ds2: sorry that was for you
  • [21:38:23] <ds2> prpplague: We are experiencing part shortages and we don't
  • [21:38:23] <ds2> expect to be able to ship any more boards until the middle of January.
  • [21:38:36] <ds2> 197 Nov 25 * Gerald Coley (176) Re: [beagleboard] availability
  • [21:38:50] <prpplague> ds2: ahh
  • [21:39:11] <ds2> prpplague: it isn't such much if it is available but rather how much you are willing to pay
  • [21:39:13] <prpplague> ds2: did read that one yet
  • [21:39:46] <ds2> prpplague: ah, still digging out of the weekend email hole ;)
  • [21:40:09] <prpplague> ds2: not really, just haven't been following the beagle mailing list very closely lately
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  • [21:40:31] <djlewis_> gm after two days...
  • [21:40:43] <djlewis_> ds2: you crack me up...
  • [21:40:53] <ds2> djlewis: what? ;)
  • [21:41:01] <djlewis_> <ds2> "Mmmmm serial VNC... dripping molasses in -10F must be very entertaining to you too ;)"
  • [21:41:13] <djlewis_> made me a rolf...er
  • [21:41:22] <ds2> djlewis: what you actually tried it? ;)
  • [21:41:45] <djlewis_> hey! I nave my stupid moments but going there is not one of them ;)
  • [21:42:25] <_av500_> gm djlewis_
  • [21:43:02] <ds2> djlewis: heh... at one time people were trying to run stock X on a much slower dialup
  • [21:43:11] <ds2> hence cam LBX
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  • [21:49:16] <djlewis_> ds2: I'm glad I slept through that ...
  • [21:49:22] <djlewis_> hi _av500_
  • [21:49:51] <djlewis_> work at the office here keeps interrupting my play time :(
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  • [21:52:55] <pouet> Hi
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  • [22:00:32] <sakoman__> prpplague: sorry, stepped away. looks like ds2 gave you the info though.
  • [22:03:10] <sakoman__> btw, gumstix still seems to be in good shape as far as availability
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  • [22:03:40] <sakoman__> last I checked all the COM modules were in stock and most all of the add on cards too
  • [22:04:21] <ds2> sakoman_: maybe they have a warehouse of them waiting for sales?
  • [22:06:09] <sakoman__> ds2: they seem to be "just in time" on builds -- things seem to go out of stock fairly regularly, but only for a few days/
  • [22:07:16] <pouet> I have a small question, after googling and searching I have not found anny answer to that question : Is there any daughter board or adapter for connecting a LCD +touchscreen to the beagleboard ?
  • [22:07:18] <ds2> sakoman_: I know the TI part from authorized distributors are evaporating rapidly
  • [22:07:26] <ds2> pouet: yes
  • [22:07:58] <pouet> I forget to precise : easy and cheap
  • [22:08:08] <cwillu_at_work> pouet, impossible
  • [22:08:21] <cwillu_at_work> pouet, the easy way is a 700 19" touchscreen with dvi and usb
  • [22:08:27] <cwillu_at_work> and the cheap way involves soldering :p
  • [22:08:32] <pouet> the devkit8000 provides ones....
  • [22:08:42] <pouet> on the board moreover !
  • [22:09:09] <ds2> easy is not a problem
  • [22:09:14] <ds2> cheap is subjective
  • [22:09:18] <cwillu_at_work> pouet, gumstix has a package including the touchscreen that's fairly easy to work with, and not much more than a beagleboard
  • [22:10:34] <cwillu_at_work> and the sd card images are pretty much compatible between the gumstix overo's and the beagleboard (I've booted cards from both on both)
  • [22:11:03] <cwillu_at_work> (noting that the overo's need microsd, but microsd in an sd adapter will work fine in the beagleboard
  • [22:11:24] * cwillu_at_work runs, but will respond to pm's or msg's if he sees them when he gets back
  • [22:11:55] <prpplague> sakoman__: np, all my new omap3 stuff i'm using the KBOC modules
  • [22:12:24] <pouet> I have to check the gumstix package. I am hesitating between IGEPv2 , devkit8000 and friendly arm kit which is s3c2440 arm 920t but with 7" touchscreen and very cheap kit
  • [22:13:04] <ds2> pouet: keep in mind the price of the Gumstix doesn't include a console
  • [22:13:12] <pouet> ?
  • [22:13:25] <pouet> you mean the devboard ?
  • [22:13:42] <ds2> the GS system is modular so you will need at least one board to carry the CPU module
  • [22:13:49] <pouet> yep
  • [22:13:53] <ds2> so the price is not that directly comparable
  • [22:14:26] <pouet> yep I have allready seen the gumstix modules
  • [22:15:20] <pouet> that's a pity it is so hard to interface a lcd + touchscreen to the beagleboard
  • [22:17:39] <ds2> pouet: I designed one...http://www.hy-research.com/beagle_lcd2.html; see the notes about having to email people (website updates are slow)
  • [22:18:58] <pouet> I have also seen that one
  • [22:20:03] <ds2> anyways
  • [22:20:12] <ds2> it is trivial to design your own if you are up to it
  • [22:20:30] <gi> i thought the Rev C BeagleBoard had the LCD connector and that was one of the major changes from Rev B boards
  • [22:22:53] <ds2> yes, all RevC's have the LCD connector
  • [22:23:01] <ds2> hence the reason why it is trivial to design a LCD interface
  • [22:23:18] <pouet> 39$ on special comp...
  • [22:23:26] <pouet> only for the adapter
  • [22:23:29] <pouet> : /
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  • [22:23:39] <gi> the problem i've always faced with interfacing to lcds is that almost every lcd has a different pinout and connector
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  • [22:24:23] <pouet> yes before reading datasheets of those 4,3" 7" lcd
  • [22:24:40] <pouet> I was thinking that the pinout was common
  • [22:26:02] <pouet> and I can't bear those small 40 pins flat ribbon that terrible when you don't have the proper adapter
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  • [22:27:13] <rtennill> other than the terminal is there a way to view filesystem for GPE Angstrom?
  • [22:27:45] <ds2> bah, that is trivial to deal with
  • [22:28:41] <rtennill> was just curious b/c I don't see anything under my media folder and I don't want to add anything to the image that I don't need
  • [22:31:08] <gi> pouet: A quick 2 -layer PCB will get you the interface you need to any LCD. I would just make a small PCB that plugs into the LCD header on the BeagleBoard and has a FFC connector which has a pinout that matches your selected LCD
  • [22:35:21] <pouet> there is any component in between ?
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  • [22:38:04] <ds2> nothing significant besides basic glue
  • [22:38:43] <gi> pouet: no, should just be a mechanical adapter to go from the header on the board to the FFC cable
  • [22:38:48] <pouet> so then it is just routing to the good pins
  • [22:39:03] <gi> yes
  • [22:39:06] <ds2> check datasheet for the glue you need!!!
  • [22:39:40] <pouet> and touchscreen + backlight to an other I/O of the beagle
  • [22:39:56] <gi> most of the signal names are going to be exactly the same so it's easy to connect
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  • [22:40:12] <pouet> yep like the RGB 8bits
  • [22:41:16] <pouet> but I was looking the sharp LQ043, innolinux 7" screen, and an other from an other chinese company
  • [22:41:39] <pouet> and inside those 40 pins they sometimes include touchscreen
  • [22:41:48] <gi> i asked awhile ago and nobody chimed in but did anyone work on a SATA solution? I see the new OMAP-L138 has built-in support for 1 SATA connection but it would be nice to add it to some of the higher speed OMAPs
  • [22:41:55] <pouet> and sometimes it is externel like for the LQ043
  • [22:42:27] <gi> pouet: yes, if the LCD ships from the factory with touch scrren it's common to see the touch screen signals on the same FFC cable
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  • [23:04:43] <ratnesh> hey again mru ... i was wondering if i can use C / C++ to program the DSP core (basically just throwing in some image processing algorithms into it)
  • [23:05:10] <mru> there are compilers, yes
  • [23:05:34] <ratnesh> sweet stuff ... coz assemnly would suck for that lol
  • [23:05:50] <mru> I'd say asm would be faster
  • [23:05:55] <mru> to run
  • [23:05:56] <mru> not to write
  • [23:06:51] <mru> writing it is _really_ hard, or so people like me would have you believe in order to charge more to do it
  • [23:13:44] <ratnesh> hey can u send me a link to any one of these compilers i can use for this purpose?
  • [23:13:56] <mru> you can get them from TI
  • [23:14:09] <mru> links should be on beagleboard.org or some wiki linked from there
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  • [23:24:46] <ratnesh> cctp version?
  • [23:27:03] <mru> cccp
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  • [23:32:26] <ratnesh> the board itself does not have linux on it right?
  • [23:33:08] <ratnesh> sry cccp?
  • [23:34:01] <ratnesh> how do i give u my cccp info?
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  • [23:41:33] <ds2> CCCP? didn't that go way?
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  • [23:44:18] <mru> that's what they want you to believe
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  • [23:50:05] <djlewis_> bbl,
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