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  • [01:40:04] <superdug> hyc: you got that email address handy?
  • [01:41:39] <hyc> mm, not at the moment. it was submitted thru a web form
  • [01:44:06] <superdug> thanks
  • [01:44:21] <superdug> just having a bit of an issue with Xorg running at 640x480
  • [01:44:33] <superdug> it's ... kinda awkward on a 22" monitor :-)
  • [01:44:57] <hyc> mmmm.... a dot pitch that makes crayons look hi-rez.
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  • [05:19:27] <leol> hi all, i'm trying to build the 3.00.09 graphic driver in oe, but after i switch to 2009/stable branch, there's no bb file for that package..how can i do that?
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  • [05:35:14] <siji> Hi all
  • [05:35:20] <siji> Goodmorning
  • [05:35:50] <av500> gm
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  • [05:38:51] <cwillu_at_work> should I expect to be able to plug a usb keyboard into a powered hub, and then plug that into the host usb port on a rev3 beagleboard, and have the keyboard work?
  • [05:39:36] <cwillu_at_work> or is that just silly talk?
  • [05:39:53] <av500> yes
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  • [05:40:13] <cwillu_at_work> which, silly talk?
  • [05:40:26] <av500> :) no, should work
  • [05:40:32] <cwillu_at_work> oh good :)
  • [05:40:51] <cwillu_at_work> my next question: if it _doesn't_ in fact work, what am I probably doing wrong?
  • [05:41:45] * cwillu_at_work is swimming in mini-a -> mini-b cables that he'd like to throw out and never order again
  • [05:43:41] <cwillu_at_work> works fine on the otg port with the appropriate cable
  • [05:43:46] <cwillu_at_work> just not on the host port
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  • [06:36:01] <DJWillis> cwillu_at_work: is the powered hub definitely USB2 High Speed and not a cheap Full Speed (i.e. 1.1 badged as 2) hub?
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  • [07:22:15] <tasslehoff> hm. the TI code is compiled with a compiler from november 07.. that's a loong time ago..
  • [07:23:46] <av500> so?
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  • [07:31:58] <tasslehoff> av500, just saying :). I'm downloading the binaries I need to add gstreamer-ti to my build, and I just noticed newer versions of most of them.
  • [07:32:27] <tasslehoff> but, it's probably a good idea to stick with the tested versions mentioned in the recipes..
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  • [08:35:42] <super_mr_jonny> hello all. I have the beagleboard revC and i was looking to connect a wireless adapter. Which models will work with the board. I'll be running Angstrom on it i reckon
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  • [08:50:04] <Beagleroid> super_mr_jonny: google for beagleboard belkin
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  • [09:15:21] <super_mr_jonny> okay thanks, i see the Belkin is recommended, but are there any others that are supported? and maybe smaller??
  • [09:17:22] <Beagleroid> super_mr_jonny: as far as I understand, there are some probs with wlan
  • [09:22:23] <super_mr_jonny> so its Belkin or nothing??
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  • [09:23:23] <adj> no, there are tons of wlan adapters which work at least on some level
  • [09:24:03] <av500> super_mr_jonny: even belkin can randomly switch the actual chipset used, so its a bit of try and error....
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  • [09:28:28] <super_mr_jonny> oh okay... So theres no really supported device, theyre all problematic
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  • [09:33:02] <av500> super_mr_jonny: no, a lot of them just work because drivers are in the linux kernel
  • [09:33:31] <av500> but the drivers are for "chipsets", not for model names that ppl like Belkin make up
  • [09:33:50] <av500> so googling for a specific model and linux support is a good start.
  • [09:34:09] <av500> try to find out what actual chipset it is and whether linux supports that...
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  • [09:40:43] <Beagleroid> dealextreme has lots of cheap wlan2usb adapters
  • [09:41:12] <Beagleroid> I wonder if it is worth buying a dozen and testing them
  • [09:41:40] <av500> sure, do that and report here :-)
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  • [09:42:13] <super_mr_jonny> well im using the rev C model and will be installing either Anstrom or Ubuntu when my SD card arrives... so linux has device drivers within it, and i need to find a wireless device that will work on linux without installing extra drivers?
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  • [09:42:54] <Beagleroid> super_mr_jonny: why not beginning with a wired LAN?
  • [09:44:13] <Beagleroid> even here there are probs that noname adaptors just do work as default
  • [09:44:34] <Beagleroid> i tried 2 noname parts for 10 USD each: no chance
  • [09:46:21] <Beagleroid> Trendnet TU-ET100C USB to Enet 10/100mbps Adapter does the job
  • [09:48:58] <Beagleroid> search dealextreme for wlan linux
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  • [09:50:59] <Beagleroid> what about this one? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25736
  • [09:51:39] <XorA> get the zipp :-D
  • [09:55:37] <super_mr_jonny> any would be great i guess. i have this one http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=280&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44 . i was looking for a small one that i could plug straight into the board and forget about instead of the huge belkin or d-line ones. but i can use any really. the belkin is the most recommended so ill probably stick to that one
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  • [09:59:51] <adj> super_mr_jonny: edimax seems to distribute open source linux driver for that one
  • [10:01:58] <adj> i would guess that the chipset is RT3070
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  • [10:15:32] <Beagleroid> it looks promising
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  • [10:51:27] <hrw> re
  • [10:55:59] <tasslehoff> Anyone compiling OE and including gstreamer-ti? I'
  • [10:56:01] <tasslehoff> oops
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  • [10:58:25] <tasslehoff> I'm having trouble compiling the codec-combo. I have zipped the "omap3530_dvsdk_combos_3_16"- from the dvsdk and put it in recipes/dsplink/files, but that doesn't work.
  • [11:01:30] <XorA> hrw: fancy commiting an urgent Angstrom fix for me?
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  • [11:04:44] <hrw> XorA: no problem
  • [11:04:50] <hrw> XorA: you will be --author
  • [11:05:01] <XorA> hrw: I just dont have access to my ssh keys
  • [11:05:11] <XorA> hrw: what email address can I send it to?
  • [11:05:59] <hrw> marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl
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  • [11:13:33] <hrw> XorA: I wonder when koen will bump gtk to 2.18.2
  • [11:14:33] <XorA> hrw: when he is not on a plane I guess
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  • [11:18:24] <ap73> Hello folks. I am trying to do some simple power consumption measurements of the Beagle board but don't know how to force it into its sleep mode
  • [11:20:01] <av500> ap73: running what kernel?
  • [11:20:16] <av500> I am not sure the stock BB kernel has all the nice pm stuff enabled
  • [11:22:13] <ap73> I have a 2.6.29-r35 kernel that OE built for me
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  • [11:23:40] <hrw> XorA: one pint of beer
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  • [11:52:25] <Beagleroid> hi all! What could be the reason why u-boot forces BB to reboot after a powerdown in Angstrom?
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  • [11:53:47] <trax> hi
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  • [11:56:53] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [11:57:05] <_koen_> Beagleroid: iirc it's a bug in the kernel
  • [11:57:59] <XorA> hey _koen_
  • [11:59:58] <Beagleroid> koen: FYI: it worked with 2.6.28 though
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  • [12:00:17] <_koen_1> XorA: I spent an hour yesterday trying to fix that python bug when I noticed that stanislav already fixed it
  • [12:02:10] <XorA> _koen_1: python bug?
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  • [12:07:42] <_koen_1> XorA: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=eb6fc049798ae5a1ece3c448bf03abbf5e884d56
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  • [12:10:17] <_koen_1> anyway, time for breakfast :)
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  • [14:54:58] <jimmy_> hello. what are the two pins for that are located near the usb otg?
  • [14:55:29] <_koen_> I suspect that's to ground the ID pin
  • [14:55:39] <_koen_> the beagle manual should have more info on that
  • [14:55:39] <hrw> jimmy_: check manual?
  • [14:56:06] <hrw> koen: 13:13 < hrw> XorA: I wonder when koen will bump gtk to 2.18.2
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  • [14:59:33] <jimmy_> theres a single pin near the SD/mmc reader thats labeled as ground, but theres two pins near the usb otg that arent labeled...
  • [15:00:30] <XorA> _koen_: we have breakage for anything that is not linux-gnu<abi> btw, I pushed fix for first part, patch for second is on oe-devel
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  • [15:00:50] <XorA> _koen_: since khem renamed linux -> linux-gnu last night
  • [15:01:18] <XorA> _koen_: well actuall hrw did the actual push, I cant connect to build machine :-)
  • [15:03:07] * XorA shall have to reflash newest kamizaze tonight and see if that fixes port forwarding
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  • [15:14:52] <midcon1> those 2 pins are for rewiring the usb connector if you can't find the right plug i believe
  • [15:15:29] <midcon1> check pg. 47 of the hardware ref manual
  • [15:15:32] <hrw> XorA: I ended using openwrt on whiterussian. try Tomato :)
  • [15:16:56] <XorA> hrw: I like kamikaze except 8.09 seems to have broken port forward, 8.09.1 is supposed to fix it
  • [15:17:09] <hrw> XorA: which hardware?
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  • [15:17:57] <XorA> hrw: wrt54g
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  • [15:18:34] <hrw> XorA: flash Tomato :)
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  • [15:19:56] <midcon1> jimmy_: i was wrong.. it's for current measurement
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  • [15:27:37] <Crofton> gm
  • [15:27:43] <av500> gm
  • [15:28:08] <Crofton> XorA, remind me to scan the proxy and email today
  • [15:28:56] <XorA> Crofton: scan the proxy and email dude :-D
  • [15:29:15] <Crofton> well, I have to get to the buidling where the scanner is first
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  • [15:34:40] <cwillu_at_work> DJWillis, (sorry for the delay). reasonably sure; anyways, the otg is also usb2.0 isn't it?
  • [15:34:47] <cwillu_at_work> (usb2 only, rather)
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  • [15:40:14] <DJWillis> cwillu_at_work: no, the OTG is fine with both 1 and 2 devices without a downstream hub to deal with the stepdown.
  • [15:40:53] <cwillu_at_work> ok, let me investigate the hubs I've got then
  • [15:42:28] <cwillu_at_work> DJWillis, the chip on the hub is labelled "gl850a", which shows up as a usb 2.0 low-power hub controller
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  • [15:43:03] <dirk2> mru: Why shouldn't we suggest patching u-boot with 600MHz hack? http://elinux.org/index.php?title=BeagleBoard&curid=2882&diff=14210&oldid=14201
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  • [15:44:24] <mru> dirk2: because it's unstable and there are less intrusive ways
  • [15:45:00] <dirk2> mru: But it isn't less unstable than the u-boot command?
  • [15:45:22] <av500> uboot will not change the HW...
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  • [15:46:11] <dirk2> mru: Assuming people know what they are doing, I'd like to give people all options we have and let them decide on their own.
  • [15:47:28] <mru> it's not less unstable, but it's harder to undo
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  • [15:49:01] <dirk2> I think Touchbook people use the u-boot c-code hack
  • [15:49:38] <DJWillis> cwillu_at_work: in theory that is a HS hub chip but I would suggest 'try another hub' 1st but I really can't suggest more :(.
  • [15:49:39] <ojn> So is the part used on beagle a 500 or 600MHz part?
  • [15:51:02] <mru> it's a 600MHz chip, but that hack isn't the proper way of running it at that speed
  • [15:51:18] <mru> one of my beagles is fine like that, two are not
  • [15:51:31] <mru> and the rest I haven't tried it on
  • [15:51:59] <ojn> I plain don't get it why the heck it wouldn't come up at the rated speed by default, why anyone ever thought it was the right idea to boot it underclocked by default.
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  • [15:52:52] <dirk2> ojn: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Clocking
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  • [15:54:25] <ojn> (i.e. running overvoltage)
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  • [16:23:15] <cwillu_at_work> DJWillis, okay, thanks. Amazing how much knowing what's actually supposed to work helps :)
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  • [16:37:27] <alexandre_fs> hello. I am new to BeagleBoard and I'm looking for cheap LCD solutions.... maybe some LCD that has S-Video Input? This could be connected directly to the latest version of Beagle? Any suggestion?
  • [16:38:04] <alexandre_fs> oh..and by LCD I don't mean a monitor, just a small screen...
  • [16:39:11] <eFfeM> alexandre_fs: if you haven't purchased the beagle yet, have a look at the always innovating touchbook
  • [16:40:33] <alexandre_fs> OK.. I will look
  • [16:41:05] <hrw> or devkit8000?
  • [16:42:06] <alexandre_fs> i will search that too
  • [16:42:15] <alexandre_fs> i'm still studying my options
  • [16:42:22] <alexandre_fs> what do you think about Gumstix?
  • [16:42:29] <alexandre_fs> it seems also an option?
  • [16:42:42] <alexandre_fs> same CPU... and has LCD modules...
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  • [16:49:56] <alexandre_fs> Touchbook does not limits me in terms of hardware/software? I see it comes with a pre-installed OS? I guess I can format that and treat it like a normal BeagleBoard? Any experience in that?
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  • [16:51:00] <cwillu_at_work> alexandre_fs, I've used a couple gumstix overo boards, seem nice enough, although the form factors can be a bit more annoying
  • [16:51:50] <alexandre_fs> the only advantage I see in gumstix over beagle is to have LCD ready modules
  • [16:52:08] <alexandre_fs> But I would prefer to use Beagle...it seems to have a bigger community
  • [16:52:12] <cwillu_at_work> built-in wireless is nice :p
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  • [16:52:39] <cwillu_at_work> and it's a smaller package
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  • [16:52:55] <cwillu_at_work> (which is the root of the socket form-factor annoyances :p)
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  • [16:53:19] <alexandre_fs> ehehe yes... i prefer the beagle form
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  • [16:53:43] <alexandre_fs> with Touchbook i would have all the specs that I need in the Beagle, but I wonder if I'm limited in terms of hardware/software
  • [16:54:00] <cwillu_at_work> software, almost certainly note
  • [16:54:21] <cwillu_at_work> ugh, certainly _not_
  • [16:54:32] <cwillu_at_work> hardware, probably to some extent, depending on your aims
  • [16:54:41] <eFfeM> touchbook will allow you to run the same sw
  • [16:55:33] <alexandre_fs> they say they have 4 internal USBs available, so my guessing is that they are already considering that the users can open it up and change it...
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  • [16:56:21] <alexandre_fs> "7 USB ports: three external, four internal, three of them may be reserved for wifi, bluetooth and keyboard"
  • [16:56:45] <alexandre_fs> Touchbook really seems like a nice option
  • [16:59:24] <eFfeM> cd ..ye
  • [16:59:40] <eFfeM> yes i think you can add your own bt dongle or so inside
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  • [17:00:12] <superdug> does the displaylink driver work on ARM ?
  • [17:00:36] <superdug> displaylink linux driver to be more specific
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  • [17:02:15] <alexandre_fs> TouchBook hardware pics: http://techsmallbigthings.blogspot.com/2009/03/always-innovating-touch-book-is-part.html
  • [17:02:18] <superdug> alexandre_fs: http://satechi.com/MIMO-UM730-USB-Powered-7-Swivel/M/B001OXSEPK.htm?gclid=CL_a6fO0q50CFYNg2godag6zqA
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  • [17:04:15] <alexandre_fs> superdug: thank's for the link... It's not wuite what i am looking for... I don't want all those features and no frame.... i need an open frame screen
  • [17:04:21] <alexandre_fs> *quite
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  • [17:07:11] <prpplague> _koen_1: package is at the hotel lobby
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  • [17:14:04] <khilman> koen: is ehci working for you with linux-omap?
  • [17:14:24] <khilman> now that tony has merged the ehci branch?
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  • [17:15:26] <Crofton> khilman, he is traveling
  • [17:16:23] <khilman> ah, ok
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  • [17:18:51] <hagna> so can beagle run python?
  • [17:19:09] <Crofton> hagna, yes
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  • [17:20:00] <hagna> ok ok I'll get one
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  • [17:56:01] <midcon1> opkg -force-downgrade never works right
  • [17:56:12] <midcon1> it seems to want to get the newest version no matter what
  • [17:56:26] <midcon1> unless you install the old versions of ipk's before you opkg update
  • [17:56:45] <midcon1> or maybe i just don't get it
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  • [17:59:24] <tapas_> hi
  • [17:59:41] <tapas_> i m facing some issued REV C beagle board
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  • [18:00:17] <tapas_> hi
  • [18:00:27] <midcon1> shoot
  • [18:00:33] <midcon1> no one will answer if you don't go ahead and ask
  • [18:00:34] <tapas_> my keyboard is nt working in android
  • [18:00:49] <tapas_> i musing REVC beagle board
  • [18:00:59] <midcon1> are you using a powered usb hub?
  • [18:01:04] <tapas_> yes
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  • [18:01:30] <tapas_> i hav connected powered usb to OTG port
  • [18:01:36] <tapas_> bt keyboard is nt working
  • [18:01:46] <midcon1> i haven't ever loaded android on mine...
  • [18:01:51] <midcon1> sounds like you hooked it up right
  • [18:02:01] <midcon1> there are android users in here.. give it some time
  • [18:02:29] <tapas_> i m using mini usb - B to standard USB female cable to connect with hub
  • [18:02:31] <DesktopMa> anyone tried mame on beagleboard? considering building one into my arcade controller
  • [18:03:35] <tapas_> is der anyone who can help me on keyboard issues
  • [18:03:40] <tapas_> pls help me
  • [18:04:12] <DesktopMa> you need to have more patience. Stay here and ask again tomorrow if you haven't had an answer by then
  • [18:05:14] <midcon1> when you plug the use hub in do you see it recognized in your serial port terminal?
  • [18:05:20] <midcon1> usb*
  • [18:05:23] <sakoman> tapas_: the cable is your issue -- a mini usb-b will not work
  • [18:05:31] <djlewis_> tapas_: Try the EHCI usb port on your BB.
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  • [18:05:47] <tapas_> hmm .. den wat shud i do ?
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  • [18:06:06] <tapas_> midcon1 >> how can i see dat ?
  • [18:06:15] <midcon1> listen to sakoman
  • [18:06:27] <midcon1> power is on the wrong pin if i remember right
  • [18:06:31] <midcon1> it's documented on the wikis
  • [18:06:34] <sakoman> you must you *must* use mini-A cable
  • [18:06:48] <sakoman> :-)
  • [18:07:06] <tapas_> cant i change some driver to use OTG as a usb host
  • [18:07:11] <Crofton> sakoman, you really should try speeding up accesses to the lan chip :)
  • [18:07:23] <_av500_> tapas_: yes you can
  • [18:07:25] <sakoman> Crofton: send me a patch!
  • [18:07:33] <Crofton> maybe I will sometime
  • [18:07:45] <tapas_> how can i do dat ?
  • [18:07:46] <Crofton> playing with the gpmc controller config registers atm
  • [18:07:57] <tapas_> sakoman > how can i do dat
  • [18:08:20] <sakoman> tapas: I told you what you need to do - get a mini - A cable
  • [18:08:21] <arte> Hi, I am having troubles with my s-video using ?ngstr?m. What omapfb.mode parameters do you have?
  • [18:08:24] <tapas_> _av500_ : how can i do dat
  • [18:08:43] <_av500_> tapas_: thats the point i dont know wrt to the BB
  • [18:09:07] <midcon1> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList
  • [18:09:08] <midcon1> read that
  • [18:09:14] <midcon1> buy something off of it
  • [18:09:18] <sakoman> Crofton: ojn has put together a patch to optimize GPMC accesses
  • [18:09:31] <sakoman> he plans to submit it to linux-omap
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  • [18:09:46] <Crofton> interesting
  • [18:09:48] <tapas_> i hav already read dat .. bt dat cable is nt available in india. i wan 2 modify drivers to do dat
  • [18:09:54] <Crofton> for the lan chip?
  • [18:10:14] <_av500_> tapas_: you can also ground the id pin to simulate A cable
  • [18:10:14] <sakoman> Crofton: yes. he says he now gets close to 100Mbs
  • [18:10:18] <Crofton> cool
  • [18:10:24] <Crofton> the defaults are pretty slow
  • [18:10:34] <Crofton> 100 ns cycle time
  • [18:10:38] <sakoman> yeah, I guess TI wanted to be conservative
  • [18:10:52] <tapas_> _av500_ : do i need 2 short pin 5 and pin 4 ?
  • [18:11:04] <_av500_> short GND and ID
  • [18:11:38] <tapas_> _av500_ : ok i ll giv it a try..
  • [18:12:04] <tapas_> _av500_ : bt it may damage my board permanently
  • [18:12:29] <_av500_> tapas_: ???
  • [18:12:44] <Crofton> yeah
  • [18:12:56] <_av500_> then dont plug mini-A either....
  • [18:13:16] <Crofton> gpmc seems pretty easy to fiddle with
  • [18:13:24] <tapas_> _av500_ : i m planning to run ubuntu , angstorm on my board . .Will these OS boot on this modified board
  • [18:13:35] <Crofton> trying to get a synchronous mode going now
  • [18:13:57] <_av500_> tapas_: angstrom for sure, bubuntu i dunt knuw
  • [18:14:12] <midcon1> it has nothing to do with the modification tho...
  • [18:14:22] <midcon1> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Important_USB_Cable_Information
  • [18:14:28] <midcon1> it tells you which pin at the bottom
  • [18:15:31] * janneg wonders how bad webOs applications are. both german gsm palm pre reviews complained that the omap3 3430 is not fast enough
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  • [18:16:43] <hagna> janneg: they are pretty bad to write
  • [18:17:04] <_av500_> they are javascript, no?
  • [18:17:20] <_av500_> and webkit on palm has not js jit...
  • [18:17:21] <tapas_> thanks all for help
  • [18:17:37] <_av500_> (yet)
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  • [18:18:17] <janneg> the complaints were about palm's applications, esp the media player
  • [18:18:26] <DesktopMa> janneg: I'd blame software rendering too
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  • [18:19:03] <DesktopMa> since flash is coming to pre I sorta hope it means sgx gui usage as well
  • [18:19:04] <_av500_> janneg: playing music is slow?
  • [18:19:28] <janneg> they don't use the powervr?
  • [18:19:42] <DesktopMa> not afaik
  • [18:19:59] <janneg> using the media player makes everything slow
  • [18:20:14] <midcon1> heh
  • [18:20:15] <midcon1> that sucks
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  • [18:21:47] <janneg> _av500_: http://www.golem.de/0910/70286-11.html
  • [18:22:10] <_av500_> oh, golem still exists,,,
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  • [18:23:49] <janneg> iirc it was bought by holtzbrinck
  • [18:23:58] <_av500_> janneg: i guess that is what you get when you help layers of frameworks on top of each other...
  • [18:24:15] <DesktopMa> I'd be surprised if palm doesn't add webgl support. at which point they will need to add 3d drivers
  • [18:25:35] <_av500_> so 1st i decide to make a browser be the phone os, then i ship it, then i try to make it faster....
  • [18:27:38] <DesktopMa> yeah.
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  • [18:29:58] <janneg> apparrently. still a little bit strange to blame the hardware
  • [18:30:23] <_av500_> janneg: no reason to do that
  • [18:30:50] <DesktopMa> also for a software rendered gui it's pretty frickin smooth. so I guess the issue is more with a few specific apps
  • [18:31:12] <DesktopMa> e.g. long boot time for the music app
  • [18:31:21] <DesktopMa> (which can be fixed with unofficial patches)
  • [18:31:33] <_av500_> yes, it scans media files on each start, great idea...
  • [18:31:43] <_av500_> put a 32gig sdhc inside....
  • [18:32:05] <janneg> _av500_: it has no sd interface
  • [18:32:21] <_av500_> guess why :)
  • [18:32:23] <DesktopMa> fill the built in mememory with sound effects :P
  • [18:32:31] <DesktopMa> -em
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  • [18:32:58] <janneg> but it's stupid to scan before the start. startup with a cached media list and scan asynchronously
  • [18:33:18] <DesktopMa> yep
  • [18:33:27] <janneg> can't be that hard to implement
  • [18:33:29] <_av500_> dont scan at all, you know when the user is able to add/delete data
  • [18:33:34] <DesktopMa> they have been pretty good at improving, so I don't doubt they'll fix it
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  • [18:34:45] <_av500_> as they have no sd slot, then only way to add data is usb and the os knows when that happens
  • [18:35:18] <DesktopMa> yeah could just scan async after disconnect
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  • [18:35:49] <_av500_> that is the least they can do
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  • [18:37:03] <DesktopMa> I'd just set up a filesystem watcher so it's added when any mp3 file is created
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  • [18:40:22] <_av500_> DesktopMa: does not help you in usb-msc mode
  • [18:40:35] <_av500_> where you give up the drive to the host
  • [18:40:48] <DesktopMa> ah true
  • [18:41:09] <_av500_> been there, done that
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  • [18:48:56] <_koen_1> khilman: if you have my patch to fix ehci, then yes
  • [18:49:02] <_koen_1> khilman: tony applied it to linux-omap
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  • [18:49:45] <_av500_> _koen_1: you can solder C97 with a patch? :)
  • [18:50:23] <_koen_> av500: no, but I'm close enough to gerald's office to fake it ;)
  • [18:50:52] <eFfeM> can you fake mine too :-)
  • [18:50:52] <_av500_> say hello to him and give kudos
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  • [18:51:24] <_av500_> eFfeM: tried the 12V fix?
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  • [18:53:05] <Crofton> _koen_, still in TX?
  • [18:53:18] <tharvey> anyone know the state of the omap3camera driver patch? was submitted to maillist around beg of year I think yet it still hasn't made it in
  • [18:53:34] <eFfeM> av500: 12V fix ?
  • [18:53:46] <eFfeM> guess i missed something
  • [18:53:49] <_koen_> Crofton: till sunday, then maryland
  • [18:54:11] <Crofton> how long will you be in MD?
  • [18:54:30] <_koen_> tharvey: iirc it depends on other stuff getting fixed first (iommu) and convertion more stuff to v4l-int
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  • [18:54:41] <_koen_> Crofton: 3.5 days
  • [18:54:55] * Crofton is like 4 hours from MD
  • [18:54:59] <Crofton> well
  • [18:55:02] <Crofton> i will be then
  • [18:55:15] <prpplague> _koen_: package is at the hotel lobby
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  • [18:55:41] <_av500_> prpplague: shh, some ppl might panic...
  • [18:56:29] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  • [18:57:26] <tharvey> _koen_, ok. I haven't seen any openembedded kernel recipes include the patch yet - I'm not missing any right?
  • [18:58:19] <khilman> _koen_: have you tested ehci on a pm kernel?
  • [18:59:02] <khilman> a quick test here results in a hang during suspend/resume if ehci is built into kernel
  • [18:59:37] <_koen_> prpplague: awesome, thanks!
  • [18:59:48] <prpplague> _koen_: np
  • [18:59:52] <_koen_> tharvey: it should be in .29 and .31
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  • [19:00:08] <_koen_> khilman: yes, I ran 2.6.29-pm on my touchbook last week
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  • [19:01:12] <khilman> _koen_: ok, thx. good to know it "should" work. I'll need to debug on current pm kernel
  • [19:03:57] <_koen_> khilman: but .29 rips out EHCI stuff from linux and relies on u-boot, haven't tried .31 yet
  • [19:04:47] <tharvey> _koen_, ah thx, I see it - I was looking at the overo tree which doens't have it - oe tree does
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  • [19:07:38] <sakoman> _koen_: I'm getting fetch failures on epsilon after your enlightenment SRCREV bump
  • [19:08:03] <_koen_> sakoman: some e modules moved around in the source tree
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  • [19:09:13] <sakoman> _koen_: I just reverted for now -- no time to investigate
  • [19:09:37] <_koen_> sakoman: are you using epsilon? beagle-demo-image works fine for me
  • [19:10:09] <sakoman> _koen_: I'm not sure what is pulling it in!
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  • [19:19:56] <_koen_> sakoman: I fixed the epsilon move (among other things)
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  • [19:21:03] <sakoman> _koen_: thanks!
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  • [19:50:03] <airman00> to start vnc I have to do ifconfig 10.10.10.11 and then route add default gw 10.10.10.10 . I have to do this every single time I boot up on the beagleboard. IS there anyway to save?
  • [19:50:59] <_koen_> use dhcp?
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  • [19:52:45] <airman00> I have to manually type this into terminal each time I boot up . How can I have it autostart
  • [19:53:14] <DesktopMa> edit /etc/network/interfaces
  • [19:55:22] <airman00> and in there change what?
  • [19:56:16] <DesktopMa> http://www.wallpaperama.com/forums/how-to-change-setup-network-linux-debian-ip-address-t1677.html
  • [19:57:53] <airman00> thanks, trying that out now. Its funny how big the difference is from my Macbook to the BB. 1.5ghz difference,
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  • [19:58:38] <_koen_> hrw|gone: you have my ack on all the stable patches you posted today
  • [19:58:44] <DesktopMa> mhz doesn't really say much. at all. not that I'm sayign it's not slower :P
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  • [20:04:51] <airman00> how do I edit a .txt file in Angstrom? there is no gedit?
  • [20:05:25] <DesktopMa> link uses nano which is a console app
  • [20:05:57] <airman00> nano doesnt work
  • [20:06:10] <airman00> nano: not found
  • [20:06:55] <cbrake> airman00: vi
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  • [20:08:16] <airman00> vi allows me to edit it too? I thought its read only
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  • [20:08:58] <DesktopMa> you have to edit it as root
  • [20:09:14] <DesktopMa> which the link says btw.
  • [20:10:53] <airman00> i'm in root.
  • [20:14:42] <Kevin`> you should be able to install nano or gedit or whatever from packages
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  • [20:19:29] <airman00> apt-get doesnt work in Angstrom. Can you help me out with the syntax?
  • [20:19:52] <airman00> wtvr ill download, unzip, and install
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  • [20:39:48] <djlewis_> 'opkg install nano'
  • [20:40:15] <djlewis_> yep, I tune in late and often off key :P
  • [20:41:47] <airman00> Cannot find package nano
  • [20:43:34] <djlewis_> opkg update
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  • [20:43:50] <djlewis_> airman00: only works if you have internet conn.
  • [20:44:02] <airman00> yep I'm doing that now. I have internet connection
  • [20:44:36] <djlewis_> nano is a cool console editor, not so cryptic.
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  • [20:46:45] <baz> where can I find instructions to boot beagleboard filesystem through NFS with ethernet usb dongle and ubuntu host
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  • [20:47:40] <djlewis_> baz: elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [20:48:17] <djlewis_> I think I ran across it down deep in there.
  • [20:48:46] <Ram__> #apple
  • [20:48:52] <ds2> *splat*
  • [20:50:53] <djlewis_> ugh, that was ugly...
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  • [20:52:56] <ds2> hmmm finally some signs of activity on the mux stuff
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  • [20:58:53] <baz> djlewis: thanks. there they use fedora and I am using ubuntu 9.04 as host. any idea what replaces the fedora's directory: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts ?
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  • [21:00:08] <sakoman> koen: another build failure after my merge with oe.dev today
  • [21:00:25] <sakoman> glib-2.0 fails with:
  • [21:00:29] <sakoman> | gconvert.c:55:2: error: #error GNU libiconv not in use but included iconv.h is from libiconv
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  • [21:07:11] <baz> does anybody know about any USB issue with the current angstrom 2.6.29 at the open-embedded?. I built the console-image and now my usb devices are not presented in lsusb output.
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  • [21:25:15] <furibondox> hi all... I've a problem compiling the kernel: board-omap3beagle.c: undefined reference to `omap2_set_sdram_vram'
  • [21:25:24] <furibondox> someone knows why?
  • [21:26:09] <furibondox> i'm searching how to fix this but seems that there is nothing...
  • [21:27:05] <djlewis_> baz: ya might try a google searc for fedora wifi setup, should be same or similar for BB fedora
  • [21:27:54] <djlewis_> I only use Angstrom images and gnome
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  • [21:31:44] <djlewis_> baz: oops, i got it basackwards..
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  • [21:46:06] <baz> djlewis: why it is relevant to fedora wifi setup?
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  • [22:01:08] <sakoman> _koen_: I resolved my build issue by doing a clean of libiconv and a rebuild of glibc-initial and glibc
  • [22:01:24] <sakoman> I have no idea how that libiconv contamination got in there!
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  • [22:06:29] <djlewis_> baz: I mentioned I got it backwards.. I see you referred to Ubuntu.
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  • [23:07:43] <airman00> i did 'opkg update' , but I still get error " Cannot find package nano" whenever I do "opkg install nano"
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  • [23:11:04] <_koen_> sakoman: having libiconv built is really nasty
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  • [23:19:20] * prpplague wonders if koen is seeing the texas sites tonight
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  • [23:26:25] <thahemp> has anyone in here gotten the powervr drivers/libs and an opengl es application to work ?
  • [23:26:47] <thahemp> the closest i've been able to get is drawing primitives, but i wasn't able to get texturing to work
  • [23:27:08] <thahemp> no matter what i tried the texture never showed up on my primitives
  • [23:28:22] <ds2> the Ogre demos work
  • [23:28:46] <thahemp> i scanned that today... maybe i should look deeper into their source
  • [23:28:53] <thahemp> i'm starting to get frustrated
  • [23:31:16] <thahemp> the only other demos i've seen that worked are the ones from clutter and the ones that come with the driver/lib binaries
  • [23:31:36] <thahemp> clutter doesn't use any textures in their demos and who knows as far as the proprietary ones go
  • [23:31:48] <thahemp> i guess they're just primitives too
  • [23:32:40] <thahemp> i even had the folks at ##opengl look over the code... and any problems weren't apparent if they were there
  • [23:33:44] <thahemp> hah
  • [23:33:46] <thahemp> WOW!! prepare to be deluged in email requests on how to get all of
  • [23:33:46] <thahemp> that running =)
  • [23:33:46] <thahemp> (And yes, I am one of those folks, but I'll still send you the direct email )
  • [23:33:57] <thahemp> the response to koen's post about ogre3d
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  • [23:47:13] <airman00> what text editor ( besides for nano) is there on Angstrom for the BB ?
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