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[06:33:06] <gMan__> hi
[06:33:17] <gMan__> i am new and happy to join your group
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[06:56:35] <_av500_> gm
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[07:53:14] <koen> s4wrxttcs2: the angstrom kernel in OE has the camera, iommu and ISP resizer patches already applied :)
[07:54:12] <_av500_> hello kOEn
[07:54:56] <koen> hello __av500__
[07:54:58] <janneg> koen: hi
[07:55:21] <koen> hey janneg, just looking at your mail
[07:55:26] <janneg> just sent another cleanup patch for the mythtv_svn recipe
[07:55:34] <janneg> all sed is gone
[07:55:48] <_av500_> poor sed
[07:55:54] <_av500_> seds dead
[07:56:18] <mru> morning
[08:01:40] <koen> hey mru
[08:01:55] <koen> janneg: is vdpau support backported to .21-fixes yet?
[08:03:39] <janneg> not officially and it won't be but we plan to start doing 0.22 pre releases in 1-2 weeks
[08:04:03] <janneg> i.e. 0.22 is hopefully not that far away
[08:04:33] <andersos_> on mythtv wiki roadmap it says 75% done
[08:06:29] <koen> I guess I'll try that mythbuntu repo first before building it myself (.21 + vdpau)
[08:06:53] <andersos_> I'm new here and also interested in mythtv
[08:07:07] <andersos_> how are you guys using it with beagleboard?
[08:09:00] <andersos_> as backend?
[08:10:50] <koen> both
[08:11:00] <koen> wowo
[08:11:06] <koen> beagleboard adds on linuxdevices.com
[08:11:10] <koen> -o
[08:12:38] <andersos_> ok do you use it for hd tv?
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[08:13:19] <janneg> andersos_: the trac roadmap status is only an indicator
[08:14:44] <koen> andersos_: no, only for SD captured by a hw mpeg tuner on a different box
[08:18:55] <andersos_> ok
[08:20:14] <andersos_> janneq: so 0.22 could be only couple of weeks away?
[08:24:05] <koen> janneg: thanks for the patch!
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[08:29:57] <qball> koen: can I send you a updated mpd_0.15.1.bb tomorrow?
[08:38:46] <_koen_> qball: sure
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[08:40:41] <qball> I tried using build in "icecast" server.. but not enough cpu to encode mp3 on the fly
[08:40:49] <qball> I wonder if ffmpeg (With the neon stuff) can do it
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[08:43:15] <ant__> koen: what's the plan about the feeds? People insist mixing incompatible things :/
[08:43:32] <ant__> updates for http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/Angstrom ?
[08:43:44] <mru> qball: ffmpeg doesn't encode mp3 at all
[08:43:50] <qball> it doesn't
[08:43:51] <qball> damn
[08:43:55] <mru> only mp2
[08:43:56] <qball> they lied to me !
[08:44:07] <mru> it can use lame as a backend
[08:44:18] <mru> so if you want faster mp3 encoding you should optimise lame
[08:44:27] <qball> I guess so then
[08:44:44] <qball> I need to fix my crashing network issue first
[08:45:09] <qball> or my mac mini has to be mpd box again
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[09:01:02] <janneg> koen: you're welcome, we still need someone to try if it actually work
[09:27:21] <_koen_> ant__: people are idiots, it's our job to enlighten them
[09:27:42] <_koen_> ant__: and of course be *very* clear that 2007 is dead and people should focus on 2008 and unstable
[09:29:03] <ant__> btw I've downloaded 2 imgs from Narcissus few minutes ago
[09:29:14] <ant__> ntp-client refused
[09:29:22] <ant__> I did not select ntp
[09:29:46] <ant__> just ntpdate and ntpclient
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[10:23:13] <gatotkaca> jolicloud!
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[10:24:29] <gatotkaca> Helloo everyone
[10:24:54] <gatotkaca> DSP vs FPGA for Cryptography -- Anyone?
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[10:51:02] <_av500_> rot13, no?
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[10:55:41] <ldesnogu_> gatotkaca, I guess this depends a lot on the type of cryptographic algorithm
[11:00:13] <gatotkaca> hum -- interesting
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[11:02:29] <gatotkaca> how about the AES Accelerator on the chip
[11:03:35] <gatotkaca> is it already supported by the current arch-kernel
[11:08:41] <_av500_> gatotkaca: no idea, but it works
[11:09:07] <_av500_> i have the driver under nda, no idea if ti will open that
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[11:13:19] <_av500_> gatotkaca: what is the use case?
[11:14:52] <jkridner|work> good saturday morning to all
[11:15:02] <_av500_> gm
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[11:21:11] <gatotkaca> _av500_: I want to encrypt the audio data :-) (a class project -- encryption using embedded device)
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[11:23:37] <_av500_> well, for audio just use the arm....
[11:23:39] <gatotkaca> _av500_: I was thinking to use DSP or FPGA -- but I see that OMAP has that encryption accelerator
[11:24:29] <_av500_> jkridner|work: ti will release crypto accell specs?
[11:24:33] <gatotkaca> _av500_: what do you mean it works?
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[11:24:51] <gatotkaca> _av500_: hum -- but I can always buffer the data and *throw* it to DSP or FPGA :P
[11:24:56] <_av500_> the crpty accells, i tested aes
[11:25:24] <_av500_> gatotkaca: yes, but for audio the arm should be enuf
[11:31:03] <gatotkaca> _av500_: do we have the user-space for that crypto accelerator? :-)
[11:32:04] <gatotkaca> _av500_: any examples?
[11:32:16] <gatotkaca> _av500_: ping
[11:35:52] <ldesnogu_> gatotkaca, you still didn't say what kind of encryption algo you want to use
[11:36:20] <_av500_> gatotkaca: no, "we" do not have it, but "I" have :)
[11:38:15] <gatotkaca> _av500_: yes -- you are right :-) -- mind to share it with "us"?
[11:38:51] <_av500_> no, nda
[11:39:42] <gatotkaca> _av500_: any hints? :-(
[11:40:41] <_av500_> sorry, no. ask some of the other "_" guys ;)
[11:41:43] <gatotkaca> _av500_: thanks
[11:42:04] <_av500_> np
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[11:50:00] <_av500_> gatotkaca: what encryption algo do you want to use?
[11:51:23] <gatotkaca> _av500_: AES -- and one modified algo
[11:52:44] <_av500_> aes is fine to run on the arm, at least for audio...
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[11:59:35] <gatotkaca> _av500_: I'll try it :-) -- but I really want to use that Crypto Accel ;-) -- Is it run automagically?
[12:03:45] <_av500_> sure, it also does your dishes
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[16:33:33] <_koen_> janneg: I'm getting Channel(/dev/video0): SetInputAndFormat() failed when trying to change channels (pvrusb2 tuner), but initial tuning works, any clues where to start debuging this?
[16:34:08] <janneg> _koen_: with trunk or fixes?
[16:34:23] <_koen_> .21fixes 207xx
[16:34:48] <_koen_> I've had this before with my ivtv tuner and I have no clue how I solved it (or if it got solved by someone else)
[16:35:32] <janneg> _koen_: are that the backported packages? quite likely that the backported HD PVR support broke it
[16:37:12] <_koen_> it's the vdpau backport
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[16:39:03] <janneg> _koen_: are you sure that it has only vdpau backported?
[16:41:11] <janneg> _koen_: and more importantly try to convince me that it has only vdpau backported
[16:46:46] <janneg> _koen_: can you paste a complete -v channel,record log of such a failure?
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[17:05:11] <janneg> _koen_: I'm just speaking to a go7007 (plextor devices) user in #mythtv-users with the same problem
[17:09:24] <_koen_> janneg: I'm going to work around it by using an external zapper for now
[17:09:34] <_koen_> I need it working in 51 minutes :)
[17:12:07] <janneg> _koen_: I take the challenge, start building from source, so you just need to recompile a single file after I found the bug ;)
[17:13:41] <_av500_> what is in 47 minutes?
[17:14:17] <_koen_> then I leave to see code sourcery in the cinema
[17:15:06] <_koen_> actually, the show starts at 8, so I need to leave 10 minutes before that
[17:22:38] <janneg> _koen_: http://pastebin.com/m6aecd7be might fixes it already
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[17:28:03] <janneg> _koen_: no I doubt that it would help
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[17:35:17] <_koen_> janneg: It seems that an external channel change script gets only called when starting live TV, but not when changing channels inside live TV
[17:35:39] <_koen_> janneg: which is OK for now, since I suspect recording will call it at the start as well
[17:35:48] <_av500_> people still watch live tv....
[17:36:44] <mru> are you sure those are people?
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[17:43:59] <muriani> _koen_: enjoy
[17:44:02] <muriani> saw that last night
[17:44:23] <mru> what's a blood prince and where is the other half?
[17:44:32] <mru> or did you mean half-blood princes
[17:44:52] <muriani> Should be prince, singular
[17:45:27] <mru> if you cut it in half it becomes plural
[17:45:32] * ogra thought he is called "the symbol" nowadays :P
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[19:17:27] <rkirti> is it TI that gives out the two boards per week in the sponsored projects contest ? or some other organization ?
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[19:28:54] <_av500_> it is the bb team
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[20:36:25] <djlewis> darn, I hate it when linux crashes
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[20:41:33] <qball> djlewis: don't we all
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[20:44:26] <qball> I am close on giving up on stupid beagleboard
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[20:46:46] <djlewis> qball: the ethernet crash?
[20:47:21] <qball> yeah
[20:47:28] <qball> driving me close to bonkers
[20:47:37] <qball> actually I am allready close
[20:47:41] <qball> but that is beside teh point
[20:47:48] <qball> Listening to: Hallelujah - Rock4 (4 Men only)
[20:47:53] <djlewis> are u using otg? do you have revC
[20:47:53] <qball> well restart did it again
[20:47:57] <qball> revB
[20:47:59] <qball> :(
[20:48:04] <qball> no cash to get a rev C
[20:48:12] <djlewis> no way to test on revC?
[20:48:24] <qball> no
[20:49:24] <qball> tried different cables, hubs and network/audio cards
[20:50:18] <muriani> I'll try to test my Extigy on the hub with my RevC
[20:50:21] <djlewis> didn't you say it works with some uboot and fs?
[20:50:55] <qball> hmm I tried updating uboot
[20:51:06] <qball> that makes the problem take a bit longer
[20:51:24] <djlewis> repeatable?
[20:51:40] <qball> it hapens every X seconds
[20:52:03] <qball> mostly when the usb soundcard buffers are flushed and new data is read from the network
[20:52:09] <qball> so lot of usb traffic
[20:52:25] <djlewis> sounds like a revC fix
[20:53:00] <qball> <--- you see that.. that is about the amount I can spend on it :(
[20:53:04] <qball> zip
[20:53:05] <qball> zerro
[20:53:06] <qball> nada
[20:53:09] <qball> njete
[20:53:13] <djlewis> My revC will disconnect mplayer from internet stream audio at times but network still works.
[20:53:33] <djlewis> more solid using same on Linux wkstn
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[20:56:10] <djlewis> qball: I wish I had a good answer for you, I know you have worked hard on this.
[20:56:19] <qball> meeh
[20:56:23] <qball> could have worked harder
[20:56:54] <qball> anyway I hope if I can connect soundcard via i2s that it might be better
[20:57:17] <qball> the otg -> hub -> 2x usb device
[20:57:20] <qball> seems to screw things up
[21:00:47] <muriani> djlewis: I've had that with mplayer on mp3 internet streams too
[21:01:03] * qball uses mpd
[21:01:23] <qball> though oe build has streaming support disabled
[21:01:52] <muriani> I would have, but couldn't get a client to connect to the damned thing
[21:02:00] <qball> he he
[21:02:07] <muriani> oh well, I'm abandoning mpd and getting a squeezebox
[21:02:22] <qball> yeah squeezebox are pretty damn nice
[21:02:35] <muriani> I liked my old mpd setup though, very slick for a free networked stereo setup
[21:02:36] <qball> and support large collections
[21:02:39] <muriani> aye
[21:02:49] <muriani> and just require Perl for linux server
[21:02:51] <qball> that is why I first went for mpd 5-6 years ago
[21:02:59] <muriani> yeah
[21:03:09] <muriani> I loved that it didn't require tag-based library navigation
[21:03:22] <muriani> that's my biggest peeve for these kinds of things
[21:03:25] <qball> I wrote a client that could handle playlists of more then 1.000.000 songs and more
[21:03:29] <muriani> nice
[21:03:41] <muriani> I was just using some php-based clients, for the iphone and such
[21:03:49] <qball> I wrote gmpc
[21:03:55] <muriani> oh cool
[21:04:24] <muriani> mpd ran on my server on the closet, and output to my efika in the living room via esd
[21:04:33] <muriani> worked like a champ
[21:04:46] <muriani> but the power usage of the server is too much, I gotta cut down as much as I can
[21:04:52] <qball> yeah
[21:04:58] <muriani> $280 electricity bill suuuucks
[21:05:08] <muriani> anyhoo, time to go build another computer, wheee!
[21:05:10] <muriani> *poof*
[21:05:14] <qball> i used a mac mini for it the last 3 years
[21:05:28] <qball> power usage of that is less then my stereo
[21:05:31] <qball> but bb would be perfect
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[21:16:08] <qball> and there it goes again
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[21:18:22] * _koen_ finished watching Harry Potter: dramatic shots of hallways and birds
[21:18:40] <qball> poor you
[21:19:24] <_koen_> it was quite entertaining if you leave out the shots of hallways and birds
[21:19:36] <_koen_> but that would cut the movie down to like 25 minutes
[21:19:48] <qball> including commercials?
[21:20:50] <_koen_> more if you add commercials
[21:21:19] * qball is not a harry pjotter fan
[21:22:18] <_koen_> it's better than twilight :)
[21:23:01] <qball> did you get gpxviewer working?
[21:23:15] <_koen_> haven't have time to look at that yet
[21:23:28] <_koen_> I spent >2 days trying to get this omap3evm board working
[21:23:40] <qball> I have a new version to be released that should not need vala.
[21:23:45] <qball> using automake 1.11
[21:23:46] <_koen_> now I can run test apps like gpxviewer on it :)
[21:24:06] <qball> it is a very very simple app
[21:24:36] <_koen_> and the clutter folks said they fixed the build problems with the gles backend
[21:25:07] <qball> hmmm booting over network
[21:25:11] <qball> that is interresting
[21:25:20] <_koen_> nfs hates me
[21:25:32] <qball> I used todo that on my first mpd box
[21:25:40] <qball> a via c6 cpu
[21:25:48] * _av500_ loves nfs
[21:26:24] <_koen_> I'm underwhelmed by the atom cpu in my new pvr
[21:26:40] <_koen_> but I'm impressed with the vdpau the ion can do
[21:26:49] <_av500_> underwhelmed by atom?
[21:27:15] <_av500_> my s10 starts the fdanfan just when i go near it :)
[21:27:30] <qball> atom isn't realy all it is said to be
[21:27:46] <_av500_> it is just a slow cpu
[21:28:05] <_koen_> _av500_: and it turns out that the revo r3600 really is crooked like the pics on the web make it out to be
[21:28:06] <qball> and shipping it with that horrid chipset
[21:28:10] <qball> did not do many good things
[21:28:17] <_koen_> _av500_: I thought it was just due to crappy cameras :)
[21:28:53] <qball> owh omap3evm is spicy priced
[21:29:14] <_av500_> qball: nobody pays that price
[21:29:17] <_koen_> 7 beagles
[21:29:34] <_av500_> you just buy enuf silicon, you get it for free :)
[21:29:58] <qball> <-- student
[21:30:14] <_koen_> _av500_: my employer is sending me another one because my current one seems to be cursed
[21:30:17] * _av500_ has a ti evm graveyard
[21:30:43] <_koen_> _av500_: which means I have more boards to run distcc and omapfbplay netsync on :)
[21:30:56] <qball> and there goes the network again
[21:30:57] <qball> :(
[21:31:11] <_av500_> _koen_: right, i could use our evms too...
[21:31:21] <_av500_> but do they have hdmi?
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[21:31:36] <_koen_> I use a dvi -> hdmi dongle
[21:32:00] <_av500_> k, so it has dvi
[21:32:02] <_koen_> if only dealextreme would hurry up with the hdmi cables
[21:32:23] <_av500_> this dealextreme is .eu?
[21:32:33] <_koen_> no, .hk
[21:32:43] <_koen_> but "free international shipping"
[21:33:16] <_av500_> they piggipack on empty containers?
[21:33:24] <_koen_> I guess so
[21:33:39] <_av500_> so it takes 4w
[21:33:40] <_koen_> works pretty neat if it's in stock
[21:33:56] <_koen_> about 7-10 days over here
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[21:34:01] <_av500_> or is the stock here?
[21:34:15] <_av500_> just outside national waters... :)
[21:34:23] <vlad> so I've got this board here, and I don't know what voltage it takes as input, and the adapter I have for it as at the office
[21:34:31] <vlad> it has a SATA port on it
[21:34:40] <vlad> so is it safe to assume 12v, or at least 12v?
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[21:34:50] <_koen_> is sata 12V?
[21:34:50] <_av500_> vlad: what board?
[21:35:01] <vlad> sata's 12v, yeah
[21:35:07] <vlad> av500: can't say, unfortunately
[21:35:22] <_av500_> what does it do?
[21:35:29] * _koen_ just crashed code composer 4 beta again
[21:35:41] <vlad> it's an arm box
[21:35:44] <_koen_> I think I shouldn't be running 2 vms together with eclipse
[21:36:11] <_av500_> you should not run anything beside eclipse:)
[21:36:24] <_av500_> eclipse is OS enuf
[21:36:25] <_koen_> I thought with 3.5GB ram it would be safe :)
[21:36:35] * qball has 8 gig, and does not dare todo that
[21:36:38] <_av500_> i just upped to 6
[21:37:03] <_av500_> vlad:
[21:37:15] <_koen_> maybe I should install linux and run xp in the vm
[21:37:40] <vlad> koen: I've found running linux in a vm under xp to be more stable than the opposite
[21:38:08] <_av500_> vlad: sata is 250mV
[21:38:11] <_koen_> vlad: yes, but XP is way too annoying when you're used to OSX
[21:38:27] <vlad> koen: yeah, so true :(
[21:38:35] <_koen_> _av500_: my gut feeling was that 12V is too much for doing a fast serial protocol :)
[21:38:51] <vlad> sorry, I meant it has sata power onboard
[21:39:05] <vlad> like the full sata connector, with both data + power
[21:39:28] <vlad> which I believe provides 12v and 5v
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[21:40:05] <qball> full sata power conn does 3.3 too I think
[21:40:23] <_av500_> yes
[21:40:41] <_av500_> but still the board could assume a 2.5"drive with only 5v
[21:40:49] <vlad> true
[21:41:02] <_av500_> i would not input 12v
[21:41:15] <_av500_> vlad: send a picture
[21:41:32] <vlad> can't do that either, silly ndas :)
[21:41:43] <qball> rot13 the name
[21:41:47] <qball> it will be encrypted
[21:41:55] <vlad> :-)
[21:42:00] <vlad> i'll just go to the office later and get the stupid adapter
[21:42:02] <_koen_> and use lzip to compress the picture
[21:42:10] <vlad> and then write the voltage on the damn board next to the power connector
[21:42:14] <vlad> like it should have been written in the first place
[21:42:21] <_koen_> vlad: voltage and polarity
[21:42:24] <_av500_> no, it kills all the suspense
[21:42:38] <qball> don't swap the polarity
[21:42:45] <qball> or you get weird star trek episodes
[21:43:01] <_av500_> anyways, me gotta sleep, 73
[21:43:11] <_koen_> lat
[21:43:12] <_koen_> er
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[22:18:49] <shiznebit> Hi all. Are the PowerVR drivers opensource or a binary blob ?
[22:20:02] <bkero> blobs
[22:20:07] <bkero> blob blob blob
[22:21:02] <shiznebit> the blob works though ?
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