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  • [00:23:17] <Animule> i hate television :\
  • [00:23:20] <icicled> anyone know what would lead to a little garbled display when i connect via serial port headers -> http://pastebin.ca/1435655
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  • [00:34:57] <muriani> icicled: that's usually cause by incorrect port speed, connection settings
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  • [00:35:20] <muriani> oh
  • [00:36:16] <icicled> here are my settings: http://pastebin.ca/1435662
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  • [00:36:35] <muriani> yeah, i just looked at your paste, not sure what would cause that
  • [00:36:44] <icicled> yea, it's really strange
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  • [00:46:31] <icicled> this is annoying =\
  • [00:46:45] <icicled> what should i test?
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  • [00:52:21] <icicled> if i connect via ttyUSB0 (my comp -> usb -> serial port -> null modem -> serial to 10-pin) i get the garbled display, but if use ttyACM0 (my comp -> BB mini usb) it works just fine
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  • [00:53:16] <Animule> timing problem?
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  • [01:05:34] <icicled> i don't know where to begin =\
  • [01:06:28] <icicled> let me try it on windows
  • [01:06:34] <icicled> see if it gives me the same error
  • [01:06:39] <icicled> bbia
  • [01:06:40] <icicled> b
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  • [01:18:16] <icicled> ok, so even in windows with teraterm & hyperterminal the output is screwed up
  • [01:18:42] <icicled> so either the null modem cable is bad or the usb->serial device is bad
  • [01:18:51] <icicled> i'm hoping its not a BB issue :)
  • [01:21:06] <icicled> time to go get both and figure out which one is the issue
  • [01:21:10] <icicled> damn
  • [01:21:14] <icicled> spending more money =\
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  • [01:37:14] <janrinze> do you guys know a good place for recent kernel images that support the USB host of the rev C boards?
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  • [01:41:59] <djlewis> I personally prefer http://widget.mibbit.com/url/fEIRm5
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  • [01:46:45] <djlewis> Hi
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  • [02:04:12] <janrinze> thanks for that link
  • [02:04:30] <janrinze> i have just tried the Angstrom demo from koen.
  • [02:04:35] <janrinze> works nice,
  • [02:05:03] <janrinze> on the DVI i only get 640x480.. would love to see a higher res on that.
  • [02:06:14] <djlewis> HAve you had the BB runing before with a kernel?
  • [02:07:29] <janrinze> oh. it runs fine.. tested several uImages and saw that none of them support the USB host of rev C3
  • [02:07:45] <janrinze> just got the board today :-)
  • [02:08:25] <djlewis> THe newer 2.6.29 will show lo res with the default nand settings
  • [02:08:58] <janrinze> ah.. ok so i should change the uboot settings
  • [02:09:18] <djlewis> My first os was the Angstrom 2.6.28r17 and it worked out of the box.
  • [02:09:50] <janrinze> using the USB host connector or the OTG for mouse and keyboard?
  • [02:09:56] <djlewis> The nand bootargs worked fine then.
  • [02:10:29] <djlewis> When I went to 2.6.29 I was told to erase nand area 260000 20000
  • [02:10:29] <janrinze> sorry.. that was ofcourse about resolution settings.
  • [02:11:10] <janrinze> erasing nand data is not in my current plans a.t.m. :-)
  • [02:11:13] <djlewis> I power thru OTG and use USB host with a 4-port powered hub
  • [02:11:45] <djlewis> in nand what is DVIMODE set to?
  • [02:11:52] <janrinze> ok. i have a working kernel that allows me to use the USB host after some searching on the web
  • [02:12:14] <djlewis> My USB host always worked with 2.6.28 and 2.6.29
  • [02:12:15] <janrinze> need to check the DVIMODE..
  • [02:12:48] <djlewis> I moved up for my webcam support
  • [02:13:19] <janrinze> makes sense.. would love to attach a webcam :-)
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  • [02:15:11] <janrinze> i have no DVIMODE setting in uboot.
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  • [02:15:58] <janrinze> it runs U-Boot 2009.01-dirty (Feb 19 2009 - 12:22:31)
  • [02:18:40] <djlewis> janrinze : http://widget.mibbit.com/url/rgQAfw
  • [02:20:30] <djlewis> ya gotta change a nand variable before boot.
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  • [02:21:54] <djlewis> you need to change "omapfb:video_mode" to "omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x768MR-16@60 "
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  • [02:23:28] <icicled> ok, turns out the usb->serial adapter was bad
  • [02:23:37] <icicled> i bought another one from a local store and it works
  • [02:23:45] <djlewis> janrinze: with printenv you have no omapfb:(something=something)?
  • [02:23:59] <djlewis> that was a colon, not a frown
  • [02:24:29] <djlewis> good deal icicled. I like the pl-2303
  • [02:26:44] <icicled> that's what the old dongle used =\
  • [02:26:51] <icicled> i don't know which driver this new one uses
  • [02:26:58] <icicled> well...not till i get back into linux =]
  • [02:27:09] <janrinze> i have a console over usb but it seems that copy/paste is somewhat buggy
  • [02:27:26] <icicled> i think that depends on your terminal program
  • [02:27:42] <janrinze> most likely.. i use minicom
  • [02:28:29] <icicled> alrighty, time to play some tf2
  • [02:28:34] <djlewis> there are several flavors of pl-2303
  • [02:28:40] <icicled> did not know that
  • [02:29:16] <djlewis> I got one through where I work that has worked with everything I tried it on.
  • [02:29:29] <icicled> i bought this -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X2QRK2
  • [02:29:49] <icicled> i just contacted the seller & asked if they would exchange it or have me return it
  • [02:29:55] <icicled> hopefully it's just a dud
  • [02:29:55] <djlewis> looks identical to mine.
  • [02:30:06] <icicled> i don't want to have to deal with 2 duds =\
  • [02:30:48] <djlewis> the winders ports get simulated as a com port so all the settings have to be correct.
  • [02:31:13] <icicled> winders?
  • [02:31:30] <djlewis> windoze
  • [02:31:50] <icicled> yea all my settings were right
  • [02:32:01] <icicled> i used it with the new one i just bought and it works
  • [02:32:16] <djlewis> that is the main thing, ya have it working.
  • [02:32:26] <djlewis> what is tf2?
  • [02:32:38] <icicled> team fortress 2
  • [02:32:43] <icicled> its a fun game
  • [02:32:50] <djlewis> not on the BB.
  • [02:33:07] <icicled> nope, on my main PC
  • [02:33:46] <djlewis> well, strange how in this forum I might be trying to associate thought to the BB :O
  • [02:34:04] <icicled> heh =]
  • [02:34:19] <janrinze> ok.. adding the omapfb setting works :-)
  • [02:34:33] <djlewis> great news janrinze
  • [02:35:07] <djlewis> BTW: i have a Samsung 1280x1024 and i used those settings and it works.
  • [02:35:14] <janrinze> any info on the max res setting?
  • [02:35:28] <janrinze> that was my aim .. 1280x1024
  • [02:35:40] <djlewis> not all work with all monitors. just give it a try.
  • [02:36:02] <djlewis> those are the only numbers I changed
  • [02:36:08] <janrinze> in 16 bit only or can it do 24 bit too?
  • [02:36:14] <djlewis> yes
  • [02:37:01] <djlewis> generally 16 takes less horsepower than 24
  • [02:37:15] <janrinze> nice!
  • [02:37:37] <janrinze> the setting really matches my monitor. sweet!
  • [02:37:42] <djlewis> might not be the case with Beagle. My focus is not in graphics
  • [02:37:48] <djlewis> good news :)
  • [02:39:23] <djlewis> working in 1280x1024 is much better though.
  • [02:39:30] <janrinze> thanks for all the help so far! I will be going to bed now. more later.
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  • [02:40:12] <djlewis> you are welcome janrinze
  • [02:40:28] <janrinze> :-)
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  • [04:03:25] <icicled> http://pastebin.ca/1435816 < is this of consequence ?
  • [04:03:35] <icicled> i'm getting this during first time boot of angstrom
  • [04:03:46] <icicled> following > http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning
  • [04:04:27] <djlewis> those are normal errors
  • [04:04:43] <icicled> usr0 is blinking & usr1 is off
  • [04:05:04] <icicled> actually they both blink, usr0 just faster
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  • [04:05:18] <djlewis> usr0 is a heartbeat
  • [04:05:26] <djlewis> faster for busy
  • [04:05:33] <icicled> gotcha
  • [04:05:36] <icicled> that's good to know
  • [04:05:43] <djlewis> user1 is a status light
  • [04:06:00] <djlewis> kinad like an HD light
  • [04:06:03] <djlewis> kinda
  • [04:06:12] <djlewis> hard drive
  • [04:06:51] <icicled> it's currently sitting at : NET: Registered protocol family 10
  • [04:06:55] <icicled> blinking away
  • [04:06:59] * icicled twiddles thumbs
  • [04:07:00] <djlewis> I never read that, kinda decided it was so.
  • [04:07:34] <djlewis> my new 2.6.29 image turned off the leds and I miss them
  • [04:07:57] <djlewis> First start takes a lloooonnnngggg time
  • [04:08:09] <icicled> more than 5 minutes?
  • [04:08:12] <djlewis> no
  • [04:08:23] <djlewis> well maybe
  • [04:08:42] <djlewis> depends on the build and how much is in it.
  • [04:09:34] <djlewis> I got used to the little BB's heart beat. Kinda reassured me ;)
  • [04:09:36] <icicled> tada =]
  • [04:09:41] <icicled> yea
  • [04:09:47] <icicled> it's up and running
  • [04:09:49] <icicled> woohoo
  • [04:09:57] <icicled> now i need to buy a monitor with DVI =\
  • [04:10:21] <djlewis> yep, I have a nice 17" on mine
  • [04:10:53] <icicled> i have a spare monitor, but it doesn't have a DVI connection
  • [04:11:07] <icicled> i'm gonna try and sell it for $50
  • [04:11:08] <djlewis> I had my Ubuntu wkstn sleep now Firefox is broken
  • [04:11:32] <icicled> even after restarting firefox?
  • [04:11:39] <djlewis> the non DVI are the less expensive and more common type.
  • [04:11:44] <djlewis> Yes.
  • [04:12:06] <djlewis> It takes forever to start with constant HD activity.
  • [04:12:19] <djlewis> THen takes forever to get it to shutdown.
  • [04:12:25] <djlewis> Never loads right.
  • [04:12:31] <djlewis> I even reinstalled it.
  • [04:12:46] <djlewis> Probably have to blow away the user folder
  • [04:12:49] <icicled> on your BB right?
  • [04:13:01] <djlewis> no my Ubuntu wkstn
  • [04:13:06] <icicled> gotcha
  • [04:13:25] <icicled> firefox feels like a 3rd class citizen on anything but windows & mac
  • [04:13:26] <djlewis> I never put the BB to sleep. Either leave it on or off.
  • [04:13:28] <icicled> kinda sad
  • [04:13:43] <icicled> i'm really hoping chromium takes off
  • [04:13:50] <djlewis> I use FF on both Winders and Linux
  • [04:14:02] <icicled> on linux it just seems awfully slow
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  • [04:14:17] <djlewis> does tonight :(
  • [04:15:05] <Animule> mmmm whiskey
  • [04:15:07] <Animule> nom nom nom
  • [04:15:25] <djlewis> that explains a lot Animule
  • [04:15:34] <Animule> hehe
  • [04:15:44] * Animule gettin paid to drink
  • [04:16:09] <Animule> i love my job :)
  • [04:16:56] <icicled> oO
  • [04:16:58] <icicled> what do you do
  • [04:17:41] <Animule> test engineer at a company that designs/manufactures an electronic alcohol monitoring ankle bracelet
  • [04:17:49] <djlewis> i'm glad I was in my tmp folder as I just accidentaly created about 100 files.
  • [04:18:06] <icicled> hehe
  • [04:18:17] <djlewis> Dont believe him, he has to wear the bracelet ;)
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  • [04:18:44] <mib_3a0qsq> hello
  • [04:18:50] <djlewis> hi
  • [04:18:58] <Animule> Greetings.
  • [04:19:07] <mib_3a0qsq> does anyone happen to know what is up with Digikey and Beagleboard inventory
  • [04:19:36] <mib_3a0qsq> Google groups seems to indicate that TI has shipped DK at least 400
  • [04:19:36] <djlewis> other than they seem to be out again?
  • [04:19:44] <mib_3a0qsq> Digikey shows now stock until July 2!!
  • [04:19:58] <Animule> looks like they're sold out for a while
  • [04:20:23] <djlewis> I think the Rev C3 is next
  • [04:20:45] <djlewis> Some already ahve them
  • [04:20:48] <djlewis> have
  • [04:20:50] <mib_3a0qsq> as much as I love the beagle I am surprised by that level of demand
  • [04:20:58] <mib_3a0qsq> is the gap in revision causing the issue
  • [04:21:31] <djlewis> I have read some try to buy in quantities
  • [04:21:49] <djlewis> Universities are picking up on them
  • [04:22:43] <mib_3a0qsq> I see... I suppose that is better than someone reselling them
  • [04:22:56] <djlewis> that goes on too
  • [04:23:04] <mib_3a0qsq> ebay?
  • [04:23:05] <djlewis> Smart Computing comes to mind
  • [04:23:45] <Animule> my cup's empty :(
  • [04:23:51] <Animule> don't need another one though
  • [04:24:04] <Animule> mixed that one prett strong to begin with
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  • [05:48:59] <mib_d0pygh> Hi All. Could someone please tell me which version of Allegro the Beagle Board layout is made in?
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  • [07:24:03] <BeagleB> Can anyone help me how to change processor frequency
  • [07:27:50] <BeagleB> Can anyone help me how to change processor frequency
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  • [07:37:19] <kezou> Hi everyone; Is there someone who enabled the dsp and gstreamer on beagleboard
  • [07:43:03] <kezou> Hi everyone; Is there someone who enabled the dsp and gstreamer on beagleboard; can you give some help on it; I
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  • [08:12:53] <hrw> morning
  • [08:16:40] <koen> hrw: dzien dobry
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  • [08:17:43] <XorA> morning
  • [08:17:56] <koen> XorA: good morning
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  • [08:33:22] <shell> koen: ufear?
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  • [08:43:12] <koen> hrw: what's your opinion on sending 4MB patches to the mailinglist?
  • [08:43:33] <geckosenator> I have to have an open id to post on beagleboard.org?
  • [08:45:22] <koen> hrw: I'd like to get this into stable/2009: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0001-linux-omap-sync-everything-with-.dev.patch
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  • [08:49:15] <XorA> only 4M, there are bigger windows viruses these days
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  • [08:54:39] <hrw> koen: insane
  • [08:54:52] <hrw> koen: send diffstat to ML and whole patch put on web
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  • [08:56:37] <geckosenator> if I dd an image from an sd card to a file, then dd it to another sd card of the same size, I don't need to run fdisk right?
  • [08:56:44] <geckosenator> it does partitions and all
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  • [08:58:02] <geckosenator> I'll find out :-P
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  • [08:58:54] <koen> geckosenator: correct
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  • [08:59:47] <koen> hrw: I know it's insane, but cherrypicking all the commits would be even more insane :)
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  • [09:00:07] <geckosenator> git-cherrypick?
  • [09:01:06] <Yarrick> koen: you could send the git url to the mailing list
  • [09:03:34] <florian> good morning
  • [09:03:41] <koen> hey florian
  • [09:09:43] <khasim> http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/canonical-giving-ubuntu-the-gift-of-android-apps/
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  • [09:13:08] <hrw> koen: few ideas: 1. send diffstat to ML with list of .dev commits and put patch online. 2. merge commits into koen/stable/2009 and do what is in 1) but with url to git tree
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  • [09:17:14] <geckosenator> it died at 1.2 gigs
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  • [09:17:21] <geckosenator> my sd card reader locks up my laptop
  • [09:17:35] <geckosenator> after 30 minutes I have to unplug it then plug it in, the kernel is deadlocked
  • [09:18:02] <geckosenator> and since I only have 1 sd card reader I guess it's impossible to copy this disk
  • [09:18:13] <geckosenator> "can't copy that floppy"
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  • [09:20:09] <koen> hrw: I'm not going to move over close to a hundred commits just to keep "history"
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  • [09:29:21] <dev001> hi
  • [09:29:21] <dev001> good morning
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  • [09:31:02] <dev001> mru : r u there?
  • [09:31:32] <mru> hi dev001
  • [09:32:55] <khasim> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo is this site working, I have opened it for few minutes nothing comes up
  • [09:34:37] <dev001> i have gone thorugh TRM document.
  • [09:34:41] <dev001> I have problem with " vstmia r0!,{d0-d7}" insturction
  • [09:34:42] <XorA> khasim: wait some more, the server it runs on runs a few projects and gets loaded
  • [09:35:14] <dev001> according to document it takes 5 cycle
  • [09:35:14] <dev001> but with my system i am getting 13 cycles?
  • [09:35:39] <dev001> mru : i am missing something
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  • [09:46:00] <mru> dev001: I get 10 cycles
  • [09:46:03] <mru> 8 for load
  • [09:53:56] <dev001> ok
  • [09:54:26] <mru> doesn't agree with the manual...
  • [09:54:57] <mru> maybe it's l1neon doing something funny
  • [09:54:59] <mru> ldesnogu: ?
  • [09:55:41] <dev001> no idea
  • [09:56:12] <dev001> i am very much confused......
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  • [09:58:24] <ldesnogu> mru ?
  • [09:58:33] <ldesnogu> ha l1neon
  • [09:59:01] <ldesnogu> sorry but I don't know the A8 except its errata
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  • [10:03:26] <dev001> mru i have measured this cycle with performance monitor register
  • [10:03:32] <dev001> how do you get your cycle
  • [10:03:56] <mru> same
  • [10:04:53] <dev001> on my system " mrc p15, 0, r4, c9, c13, 0" takes 53 cycle, is this correct
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  • [10:29:01] <mru> dev001: mrc instructions can take a while
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  • [10:31:24] <dev001> any suggestions for me? mru : how can i improve this cycle number
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  • [10:32:09] <mru> don't do it so often
  • [10:33:22] <koen> mru: have you tried omapfbplay with a recent dss2?
  • [10:33:25] <dev001> for "mrc" i know just used in profiling, what about memory aceess
  • [10:33:55] <koen> mru: I keep getting this: mmap2(NULL, 0, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 4, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
  • [10:33:59] <koen> write(2, "mmap: Invalid argument\n", 23mmap: Invalid argument
  • [10:34:12] <dev001> vst1.u8 figure is worsen than vstm
  • [10:36:38] <mru> koen: it's trying to map zero bytes, which obviously makes no sense
  • [10:36:53] <mru> koen: the ioctl to retrieve the size of the framebuffer is lying
  • [10:37:26] * koen pokes tomba
  • [10:37:29] <mru> OMAPFB_QUERY_MEM
  • [10:45:29] <koen> mru: AIUI fb1 and fb2 are 0 by 0 by default till you resize them in recent versions of DSS2
  • [10:50:13] * koen echo 6000000 > /sys/class/graphics/fb1/size
  • [10:51:03] <black_Nightmare> meant to ask this dumb question for a while now..what kind of video controller is the beagleboard using to that it can't do analog output?
  • [10:51:09] <mru> koen: so what's the correct way to know the size they can be?
  • [10:52:36] <hrw> black_Nightmare: I think that analog output could be possible but would require additional chip(s)
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  • [10:53:04] <black_Nightmare> hrw..then how did svideo end up there.. thats why I rather had to wonder
  • [10:53:23] <black_Nightmare> no harm meant :p
  • [10:53:47] <hrw> no idea
  • [10:54:50] <koen> mru: the size is now allocated dynamically, so for me it can by 14MB - size(fb0) - size(fb2)
  • [10:55:02] <koen> s/by/be/
  • [10:55:16] <black_Nightmare> thanks anyhow hrw - what you doing now if you don't mind me asking?
  • [10:55:41] <hrw> black_Nightmare: writing blog post with my opinion on next nokia tablet
  • [10:55:56] <black_Nightmare> hrw.nokia? was that the 8xx numbered ones?
  • [10:56:31] <hrw> black_Nightmare: there will be omap3 based tablet in 2009. dig for n900 or rover
  • [10:58:59] <black_Nightmare> I've seen the various hardware release news on linuxdevices for these but I never had much interest because of their physical limitations from being used here - but then to our own of course
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  • [10:59:51] <BeagleB> Is BeagleBoard has VFP
  • [11:00:04] <mru> koen: so, what is the proper way to set the size?
  • [11:00:14] <dev001> mru : l2 cache is disable in my case
  • [11:00:21] <mru> dev001: why?
  • [11:00:22] <black_Nightmare> at least it was nice of them to change to SD media instead while going from N770 to N800
  • [11:00:30] <mru> BeagleB: yes
  • [11:00:30] <koen> mru: no idea, you'd have to ask tomba or kulve
  • [11:00:36] <mru> or rtfs
  • [11:01:20] <black_Nightmare> hrw just wondering but how much hardware details is there on the N900 or its just mostly the cpu alone yet?
  • [11:02:02] <hrw> black_Nightmare: Nokia guys told on Maemo Summit 2008: omap3, 256mb ram, 3g gsm for data, wvga screen (and some more infos)
  • [11:02:24] <hrw> black_Nightmare: s/n770/770/ - there was no 'N' in name for 770
  • [11:03:01] <black_Nightmare> ah..summits..heh ok
  • [11:04:40] <BeagleB> where i can find gel file for BeagleBoard
  • [11:04:55] <black_Nightmare> hrw I kinda liked the hp journada 7xx concept but hm too bad noone seem actually interested in designing these kind of thing anymore tho
  • [11:05:18] <black_Nightmare> at least I've got a fair compromise between an eMate and an old 10" laptop altogether
  • [11:06:14] <hrw> black_Nightmare: I am waiting for touchbook
  • [11:06:23] <dev001> it printing off while booting ....
  • [11:06:59] <dev001> ok in your case it is on... so you are getting 10 cycle....
  • [11:07:08] <black_Nightmare> hrw heh interesting concept
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  • [11:07:42] <mru> dev001: well, you still have L1 enabled and L1NEON set, so L2 on or off shouldn't make much difference when data is in L1
  • [11:08:00] <hrw> black_Nightmare: my 12" laptop shows its age
  • [11:08:22] <black_Nightmare> hrw..one of the thing I can't even understand with too many laptop/handheld devices these days and hence why I rather seem to have litle interest in them is why do they keep lacking full internet connectivity and/or decent card reader options compared to older models
  • [11:08:35] <black_Nightmare> so I guess you can see where my side stands at
  • [11:09:39] <hrw> black_Nightmare: define 'full internet connectivity' in mobile device. wifi+3g? ethernet+wifi+3g?
  • [11:10:19] <black_Nightmare> modem/eth/wifi .. and any satellite connections are optional
  • [11:10:47] <niral> mru : which is the latest kernel source code for the beagle board?
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  • [11:11:20] * XorA prefers BT/wifi
  • [11:11:28] <hrw> black_Nightmare: for me ethernet/wifi/bt is enough. ethernet at home (1gbE or 100mbps beats wifi), wifi where possible and gsm/3g/hsdpa-over-bt elsewhere
  • [11:11:32] <XorA> I can always use usb for hard cables
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  • [11:11:59] <dev001> How to check L1NEON
  • [11:12:29] <mru> dev001: it's in the auxiliary control register
  • [11:12:30] <hrw> XorA: my usb ethernet cards do only 7mbps
  • [11:12:37] <mru> what u-boot are you using
  • [11:12:38] <black_Nightmare> hrw...well you'll have little luck even getting on the internet at least half of the day here if you didn't have any modem given
  • [11:12:44] <mru> niral: linux-omap.git is the latest
  • [11:13:03] <black_Nightmare> and don't bother with satellite for more than email/etc unless you like to be dinged on a excessive kb/$ charge sadly
  • [11:13:03] <dev001> with my kernal i am not able to read control register... i am using uboot 1.3.3
  • [11:13:06] <hrw> black_Nightmare: I always have my cellphone with me. it do gsm/3g/hsdpa and has bt
  • [11:13:22] <XorA> hrw: mine goes a lot faster than that :-)
  • [11:13:28] <black_Nightmare> such is the state of having very few honest phone carrier (usually only bell in some places)
  • [11:13:29] <AV500> dev001: there is a patch by mru that allows you to ready this via sysfs
  • [11:13:58] <black_Nightmare> so you can see where a modem is a defacto requirement unless you have a rich wallet as a backup
  • [11:13:58] <hrw> XorA: how much you paid for it?
  • [11:14:09] <niral> mru:if i download from this site http://git.mansr.com/?p=linux-omap;a=summary is it fine?
  • [11:14:21] <hrw> black_Nightmare: I never used landline modems
  • [11:14:22] <mru> niral: no, use the kernel.org one
  • [11:14:27] <niral> version 2.6.29
  • [11:14:42] <black_Nightmare> hrw then don't come up here :)
  • [11:14:59] <black_Nightmare> (alak ontario .. the province that houses the capital city of our country)
  • [11:15:08] <hrw> black_Nightmare: canada?
  • [11:15:18] <black_Nightmare> yeah
  • [11:16:04] <dev001> av500 : ok
  • [11:16:56] <black_Nightmare> the sad thing is CRTC (the supposed government regulator) has been letting bell/etc get away with too many headaches on us consumers especially over listing X price but really charging a much higher X price etc
  • [11:17:25] <black_Nightmare> and did I have to mention bell actually throttle all their wholesale isps without actually being able to present any real papers that does say their network is getting overloaded
  • [11:17:37] <black_Nightmare> but meh
  • [11:17:40] <niral> mru:totally confused can u pls give me link?b'cos yesterday some body told me kernel.org kernel code is incomplete...as I want to add your vfp patch+video resolution patch i have to compile it on my own to use for my development.
  • [11:18:10] <black_Nightmare> sorry if I'm going OT here..just keep talking about Beagle questions .. I'm done for now :p
  • [11:18:52] <mru> niral: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
  • [11:21:51] <niral> thk u mru
  • [11:22:26] <dev001> AV500: which stable version should i use to enable L1 and L2 cache..... which has all patches
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  • [11:24:13] <mru> dev001: normally you should enable L1 and L2
  • [11:24:29] <mru> in some special situations you may get better performance without L2
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  • [11:26:07] <tomba> koen: DSS1 worked the same way, it didn't allocate fb1 and 2 by default. you could do it via kernel cmdline or in board file
  • [11:26:58] <tomba> mru: proper way would probably in this case be to use SETUP_MEM to allocate enough memory
  • [11:27:38] <dev001> can you send me patches for these.
  • [11:28:15] <dev001> i think i am working on older version of kernel code.
  • [11:28:25] <mru> tomba: the difference now is that the app is expexted to request the memory
  • [11:29:46] <tomba> mru: no, it was the same with DSS1. but with DSS1 versions the board file probably defined the the fb memories to be allocated. you can do the same with DSS2 too, but I think it's wrong.
  • [11:30:56] <mru> I'm not saying the new way is wrong
  • [11:31:18] <tomba> I know, I'm just pointing out that there's no difference with DSS1 and DSS2 =). it configuration issue
  • [11:31:33] <mru> with dss1 the memory was always there
  • [11:31:53] <tomba> only if the board file was configured so
  • [11:32:00] <mru> and it was, apparently
  • [11:32:11] <tomba> on some boards, yes
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  • [11:33:24] <tomba> and you can also use the sysfs to allocate memory (as long as the overlay is disabled), it's handy if you're just trying things out
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  • [11:45:51] <niral> mru : i have downloaded the 2.6.29 kernel when i am trying to make uImage gcc version is confilicting ....which version should i use for 2.6.29 kernel?
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  • [11:47:16] <niral> i m having 4.1.2
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  • [11:48:03] <BeagleB> do UART of BeagleBoard support interrupts
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  • [12:48:58] * koen wonders why people keep posting omap3 questions on the davinci mailinglist
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  • [12:52:00] <AV500> coz the name of the list does not match the content any more :-)
  • [12:52:20] * Crofton|work blames TI marketing
  • [12:53:16] <AV500> it should be ti-linux-open-source now
  • [12:53:18] <niral> hi AV500:
  • [12:53:23] <AV500> ho
  • [12:54:16] <niral> mru has given me link for the kernel http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
  • [12:54:41] <niral> from this i have downloded 2.6.29 tagged kernel using snapshot in tar.gz form
  • [12:55:03] <niral> than i have built that kernel...
  • [12:55:19] <niral> is it the right way ?
  • [12:57:07] <AV500> the right way for what?
  • [12:57:29] <niral> to download kernel source code for beagle board ?
  • [12:57:54] <niral> i haven't use git to take that source code
  • [12:58:18] <AV500> I guess it does not matter, if you get the tarball you cannot update it, thats all
  • [12:58:29] <niral> ok
  • [12:58:59] <niral> than i have built that kernel,...
  • [12:59:10] <niral> but i m not able to mount mmc card
  • [12:59:44] <AV500> you put the correct config?
  • [13:00:01] <niral> even though i have enable CONFIG_MMC=y
  • [13:00:14] <niral> and CONFIG_MMC_OMAP=y
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  • [13:16:57] <mib_knbepv> :)
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  • [13:29:14] <Sinky> hi guys
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  • [13:50:15] <niral> hi
  • [13:50:26] <geckosenator> hi
  • [13:50:50] <niral> i have two kernel code one i have downloaded from from http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
  • [13:51:27] <niral> and other http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode
  • [13:52:25] <niral> sorry ...got confused ..
  • [13:52:44] <niral> geckosenator:http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary kernel code 2.6.29
  • [13:53:07] <niral> i have downloaded and compiled but i am not able to mount the mmc card
  • [13:53:23] <niral> what all should i eanble to mount the card?
  • [13:53:35] <tor2> niral: Any messages? From e.g. 'dmesg'?
  • [13:53:44] <tor2> (when you plug in the card I mean)
  • [13:54:41] <niral> let me check
  • [13:54:44] <niral> ..2 min
  • [13:54:59] <niral> but kernel code is fine right?
  • [13:55:22] <niral> while uncompressing kernel it is saying mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising MMC card
  • [13:55:43] <niral> even dmesg is saying tha
  • [13:56:20] <niral> any idea?
  • [13:56:28] <tor2> I'm not sure on this, but as I recall someone said that -110 is normal (a couple of days back on irc). But I don't know more than that, sorry.
  • [13:56:30] <ali_as> How did you format the mmc card?
  • [13:57:05] <niral> i have only one partition and thats fat32
  • [13:57:10] <niral> i using ramdisk
  • [13:57:43] <niral> so i m putting MLO , u -boot.bin uimage and ramdisk on only fat32 partition
  • [14:00:13] <niral> any idea ali_as?
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  • [14:02:20] <tor2> niral: Is this when you're booting from the card?
  • [14:04:26] <niral> yes
  • [14:04:37] <tor2> Standard 1-bit MMC card?
  • [14:06:16] <ali_as> niral, you didn't answer my question.
  • [14:06:34] <niral> sorry by windows format
  • [14:07:05] <ali_as> Using the HP tool?
  • [14:07:12] <niral> tor2:sorry how to check that ..?
  • [14:07:19] <niral> no ..
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  • [14:07:32] <ali_as> Formatting with windows does not work.
  • [14:07:36] <niral> ali_as:no directly right click and quick format
  • [14:07:39] <niral> ..
  • [14:08:00] <tor2> Well, is it a pure MMC card or one of the variations like MMC plus (MMC+) or MMC Mobile? It's not SD I presume
  • [14:08:07] <ali_as> You must use the HP tool or mkfs in linux. Parted does not work either.
  • [14:08:26] <niral> intersting thing is with another uimage it is working i am able to mount it ...so kernel is palying part
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  • [14:09:55] <niral> what all config i need to enable in def config?
  • [14:11:10] <tor2> niral: If you already have an old kernel that works with the card then you can extract its config from /proc/config.gz (unless the /proc/config.gz option was not enabled in that kernel)
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  • [14:13:12] <niral> let me try
  • [14:13:13] <koen> hrw: checking if xorg-macros used to generate configure is at least 1.2... configure: error: configure built with too old of a version of xorg-macros.m4 - requires version 1.1.0 or newer
  • [14:14:11] <hrw> koen: I have them in queue
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  • [14:18:03] <niral> its on in my kernel let me compare the configs
  • [14:18:53] <hrw> koen: git pull
  • [14:18:57] <Sinky> anyody has expirience with ubifs ?
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  • [14:20:18] <koen> hrw: sh: gitosis-serve: not found
  • [14:20:37] <koen> hrw: looks like someone thought that removing gitosis on the server would be a good idea
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  • [14:20:49] <hrw> koen: you should be on #oe to get notices
  • [14:20:55] <Sinky> I compiled ubi and ubifs in the kernel. Also set parameter ubi.mtd=5 in uboot bootargs. dmesg shows UBI: attached mtd5 to ubi1. But when I try to use ubiattach I received:
  • [14:21:00] <Sinky> ubiattach: error!: MTD attach/detach feature is not supported by your kernel
  • [14:21:05] <koen> hrw: there's a mailinglist for that
  • [14:21:16] <hrw> koen: 16:17 < cbrake> I'm replacing a few git admin components on the server with packaged versions -- git may be unavailable for 5-10 minutes
  • [14:21:37] <koen> hrw: like I said, we have a mailinglist for that
  • [14:21:49] <hrw> say that to Cliff then
  • [14:22:06] <niral> tor2:its very suprising that both the configs have same mmc options..
  • [14:24:05] <tor2> niral: Ok then I don't know. Your MMC is a standard old-fashioned MMC card? Not mobile or plus?
  • [14:24:52] <niral> no its mmc mobile
  • [14:25:56] <tor2> aha. 8-bit card then? Got lots of pins (more than SD)? See page 23 in the BB SRM rev C2.2
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  • [14:27:54] <niral> ok thx
  • [14:28:38] <geckosenator> hi
  • [14:28:51] <geckosenator> niral: do you want me to try this kernel?
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  • [14:40:45] <Sinky> ok. I updated the kernel and it is ok.. but I do not have /dev/ubi_ctrl device... ./ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 0
  • [14:40:46] <Sinky> libubi: error!: cannot open "/dev/ubi_ctrl"
  • [14:40:54] <Sinky> somebody any ideas?
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  • [15:05:04] <janrinze> hi there. does anyone here know a quick way to instal ubuntu 9.04 on a beagleboard?
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  • [15:19:47] <janrinze> ok noone?
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  • [15:25:46] <shell> janrinze: I forgot where I saw a tutorial
  • [15:27:14] <shell> janrinze: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
  • [15:27:29] <janrinze> those tutorials work with debootstrap .. i can't do that a.t.m.
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  • [15:31:02] <janrinze> guess a disk image of 9.04 desktop would be nice. already found a good 2.6.29 kernel plus modules so that should be possible to use with that.
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  • [15:36:51] <mib_29r1rv> Hello
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  • [15:41:11] <koen> hrw|meeting: I think I have angstrom building again after your xorg changes
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  • [15:41:58] <janrinze> koen: thanks for the angstrom builds and images.. really nice to see them working :-)
  • [15:41:59] <doshi> Hello there
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  • [15:42:47] <doshi> I am bring up EFI on Beagleboard and came across ECC generation question
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  • [15:43:08] <doshi> Does anyone here know about how to calculate ECC codes?
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  • [15:47:41] <hrw|meeting> doshi: EFI?
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  • [15:49:11] <djlewis> good morning
  • [15:49:26] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [15:50:59] <doshi> You can find more about EFI from http://www.uefi.org
  • [15:51:24] <doshi> ARM is now official in UEFI and we are bringing up reference platform using Beagleboard
  • [15:51:58] <hrw|meeting> koen: thx for fixes
  • [15:53:20] <hrw|meeting> doshi: heh.. yet another project to improve boot...
  • [15:53:26] <hrw|meeting> when this will end ;(
  • [15:53:37] * hrw|meeting wants u-boot on my x86 instead of bios
  • [15:53:43] <hrw|meeting> or rather bioses
  • [15:53:52] <Jos1> has anyone done a redboot port for omap/beagleboard
  • [15:54:05] <muriani> MORE BOOTLOADERS
  • [15:54:10] <hrw|meeting> Jos1: I hope not
  • [15:54:54] <Jos1> why not, its a neat bootloader
  • [15:55:11] <Jos1> you can never have too many bootloaders
  • [15:55:25] <AV500> but they have to chain load each other too!
  • [15:55:39] <AV500> efi -> uboot -> redboot -> efi ->...
  • [15:55:57] <Jos1> i havent gotten a beagle yet, but isnt that what xloader does?
  • [15:56:32] * florian hates redboot
  • [15:57:16] <Jos1> i think as a weekend project im going to look at how hard it would be to x-compile moblin for arm
  • [15:57:18] <doshi> Actually, UEFI is getting more standard across different vendors. If we have some reference platform up and running using EFI then vendors can easily develop drivers
  • [15:57:23] <AV500> doshi: once I have EFI on the BB, can I boot OS X? :-)
  • [15:57:44] <muriani> HAR
  • [15:57:48] <doshi> Probably not.. for that we need support from OS X as well.
  • [15:58:33] <muriani> Jos1: moblin could be cool on arm
  • [15:58:37] <doshi> EFI is more standard in the PC/MAC world.
  • [15:58:42] <Jos1> i think it would be kickass
  • [15:59:30] <hrw|meeting> florian: I hate it too
  • [15:59:44] <doshi> I applied for the mailing list membership and once it gets approved I will post my question there
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  • [16:00:07] <AV500> doshi: for ECC, why not look into uboot src?
  • [16:00:09] <doshi> I am wondering if anyone here knows about ECC code generation
  • [16:00:16] <AV500> and btw, the omap3 does it in HW, no?
  • [16:00:31] <doshi> Unfortunately I can't see Uboot code (Its GPL)
  • [16:00:51] <doshi> EFI is going to have BSD license.
  • [16:00:56] <AV500> doshi: and somebody glued your eyes shut, good :-)
  • [16:01:12] <AV500> doshi: the OMAP3 TRM is not GPL, try this :-)
  • [16:01:31] <doshi> Yes I was referring that but it has pretty high level information.
  • [16:02:33] <doshi> So, I am able to read GPMC_ECC_RESULT register. Now, I am not sure how to interpret that in the ECC codes
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  • [16:05:42] <mib_phui61> Hello all, does anyone know if its possible to get an Angstrom distribution up and running on a non-beagle OMAP3 board (Zoom2)?
  • [16:07:05] <muriani> I'm fairly sure it's possible, see if there's an OE recipe for it building it for Zoom2?
  • [16:07:38] <mib_phui61> OE?
  • [16:07:45] <muriani> OpenEmbedded
  • [16:07:52] <muriani> it's what you'd normally use to build Angstrom.
  • [16:08:35] <mib_phui61> ok...which kernel should I use to begin this process?
  • [16:09:22] <muriani> The latest you can, I'd think
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  • [16:09:55] <mib_phui61> If I use the beagle kernel, I will have to port all the zoom2 drivers...correct? as the peripherals on Zoom2 is very different from that if beagle.
  • [16:11:01] <muriani> Right, the modules would have to be compiled for the ZoomII hardware
  • [16:11:43] <muriani> koen got Angstrom running on the original Zoom
  • [16:14:24] <muriani> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/conf/machine/omapzoom.conf that's the conf for building for the original Zoom, you may be able to go from there?
  • [16:14:46] <hrw|meeting> mib_phui61: if you have working kernel already then it is less work
  • [16:14:55] <muriani> yeah
  • [16:15:15] <muriani> if the beagle kernel boots, then you'd just need modules for the extra hardware, I'd think
  • [16:15:25] <mib_phui61> otherwise, drivers will have to be written from scratch?
  • [16:16:39] <muriani> do you already have drivers for another linux distribution?
  • [16:16:52] <muriani> (preferably with source)
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  • [16:18:04] <mib_phui61> I'm trying to get Android up on Zoom2....it seems fairly straightforward following instructions on omapzoom.org....but I have no idea on Angstrom....what kernel to use etc. etc.
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  • [16:19:56] <mib_phui61> Is there a kernel which already has drivers for Beagle, Zoom1 and Zoom2 (preferably all of TI OMAP3 based boards)?
  • [16:21:16] <mib_phui61> I'm new to Linux....so please pardon me if I'm asking some really basic questions.
  • [16:24:18] <hrw|meeting> koen: new xserver req recompilation of all drivers. but you know it?
  • [16:26:27] <janrinze> mib_phui61 kernels are built specifically for a platform. also the platform has a platform number that the kernel can check..
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  • [16:26:49] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: kernels can be also built to run on many devices
  • [16:27:46] <janrinze> have not seen that with ARM platforms..
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  • [16:29:44] <muriani> many people compile specific kernels for space and *efficiency*
  • [16:30:01] <muriani> why have drivers for hardware you don't have, etc
  • [16:30:56] <koen> hrw|meeting: didn't know, should I bump PR on all drivers?
  • [16:31:48] <janrinze> muriani because the kernel has sources for almost anything that runs linux..
  • [16:31:55] <hrw|meeting> koen: would have to
  • [16:31:59] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: I saw
  • [16:32:22] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: edb93xx boards, kirkwood based devices (like sheevaplug), zaurus machines
  • [16:32:43] <janrinze> one kernel for all those machines??
  • [16:32:54] <muriani> sure, why not?
  • [16:32:57] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: for each between ","
  • [16:33:12] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: one for edb93xx, other for kirkwoods, other for zauruses
  • [16:34:14] <janrinze> that is what a platform means.. hardware with essentially same setup
  • [16:34:37] <hrw|meeting> janrinze: edb93xx differs etc
  • [16:34:56] <hrw|meeting> but basically kernel has lot of "if machine_is_this-or-that"
  • [16:35:12] <janrinze> nevermind..
  • [16:36:00] <koen> hrw|meeting: things like this make me want to shoot people that advocate adding PR = "r0" to every recipe
  • [16:36:35] <hrw|meeting> koen: I am ok with PR = "r0" in recipe
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  • [16:37:25] <janrinze> koen do you know the status of hardware accelerated OpenGL on the beagleboard?
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  • [16:38:10] <janrinze> as in do we have drivers for X that support them?
  • [16:38:10] <koen> hrw|meeting: now I only have to change one .inc file, not 57 recipes
  • [16:38:23] <hrw|meeting> brb
  • [16:38:39] <koen> janrinze: I know that clutter, ogre3d and quake3 work in angstrom
  • [16:38:58] <janrinze> koen that sounds interesting.
  • [16:39:54] <janrinze> does that mean we have a working opengl ES library hanging around somewhere?
  • [16:40:34] <janrinze> guess i will dig into that myself someday.
  • [16:41:08] <janrinze> koen have you tried RiscOS 5 on the beagleboard yet?
  • [16:41:17] <mib_phui61> Hi koen...can you please advise which kernel to use for porting Angstrom on Zoom2?
  • [16:41:32] <ali_as> I'm tinkering with RiscOS 5.
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  • [16:42:01] <janrinze> ali_as: which rev board do you have?
  • [16:42:03] <ali_as> Though I havn't tried the latest version with Desktop working yet.
  • [16:42:06] <ali_as> C2.
  • [16:42:11] <koen> mib_phui61: 2.6.30rc7
  • [16:42:11] <janrinze> ok i have C3
  • [16:42:43] <janrinze> ali_as: do you have USB host working with the keyboard?
  • [16:42:55] <ali_as> Yes.
  • [16:42:58] <mib_phui61> koen: so that kernel should have all the drivers I would need for Zoom2?
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  • [16:43:21] <janrinze> ali_as is there a quick howto for me to get it running ?
  • [16:43:40] <mib_phui61> Touch screen for example wasn't supported in Zoom1
  • [16:44:02] <koen> mib_phui61: dunno, I don't have a zoom 2, but rc7 seems to have board support for zoom2
  • [16:44:05] <ali_as> janrinze, I don't know of any binary releases, do you have a RiscOS compile environment?
  • [16:44:34] <janrinze> ali_as: nope.. but there are rom images available i.i.r.c.
  • [16:45:48] <ali_as> Beagle/OMAP3 ROM images or Iyonix ROM images?
  • [16:46:05] <janrinze> there is a beagle rom on riscosopen
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  • [16:46:37] <janrinze> just don't want to ruin my flash disk just yet.. got the board yesterday..
  • [16:48:11] <ali_as> An April release, hmm, unsure about that.
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  • [16:48:39] <ali_as> The ROM has to be booted by SD card anyway, it currently needs u-boot to run it.
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  • [16:48:49] <janrinze> ok.
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  • [16:49:57] <ali_as> I'm using the emulator Resquirrel as my build environment.
  • [16:50:04] <ali_as> RedSquirrel.
  • [16:50:35] <ali_as> Desktop works, USB HOST works, ethernet via USB does not work yet.
  • [16:51:17] <ali_as> Jeff has done amazing things in a very short space of time, but it's far from a working OS.
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  • [16:59:09] <janrinze> ali_as: how do you boot your RiscOS rom?
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  • [17:30:04] <bobkatzz> I'm getting this error:: "Please install following missing utilities: makeinfo"
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  • [17:30:49] <bobkatzz> when executing this command string :: bitbake base-image ; bitbake console-image ; bitbake x11-image ; bitbake gnuradio-image
  • [17:31:34] <bobkatzz> also :: Bitbake version 1.8.12 is required and version 1.8.10 was found
  • [17:32:55] <shell> is makeinfo installed?
  • [17:34:10] <koen> bobkatzz: if you have 1.8.10, you didn't follow http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [17:36:10] <bobkatzz> ok will check agian but I did - I had already done some stuff on my own before I did that and it may have screwed it up
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  • [17:39:01] <bobkatzz> pardon but the building-angstrom page refers you to the Getting Started OE wiki which has a completly conflicting file tree set up
  • [17:39:31] <bobkatzz> they probably intermesh but at wich point in the instruction set is not clear
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  • [17:40:43] <bobkatzz> I will use the the instruction for obtaining bitbake that is on the getting started page (but not on the building angstrom page) and see if that updates bitbakd
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  • [17:42:13] <bobkatzz> svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8/ bitbake
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  • [17:42:30] <bobkatzz> sorry that was not what I meant to copy
  • [17:42:42] <bobkatzz> svn: Failed to add directory 'bitbake/contrib': an unversioned directory of the same name already exists
  • [17:42:46] <bobkatzz> that's it
  • [17:42:51] <koen> bobkatzz: please follow the instructions in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [17:42:56] <koen> it's not rocket science
  • [17:43:01] <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [17:43:22] <koen> it only links to the other pages in case you want more background
  • [17:43:24] <bobkatzz> should I just delete everything below OETREE? and start over
  • [17:43:30] <bobkatzz> ok
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  • [17:45:57] <bobkatzz> ok I just removed openembedded (the directory) and started over
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  • [17:47:54] <bobkatzz> koen while I'm waiting for that to finish - Crofton mentioned that you "did" hamlib - what did he mean by that?
  • [17:49:10] <bobkatzz> have you created an image for that?
  • [17:49:39] <bobkatzz> or did he mean gnuradio?
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  • [18:04:46] <bobkatzz> koen - did all as per and here is the error - sqlite3.OperationalError: attempt to write a readonly database
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  • [18:23:18] <doshi> How long does it take to get the membership?
  • [18:23:23] <doshi> of the mailing list?
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  • [18:36:13] <koen> mru: iirc there was some discussion about blue and green horizontal lines when using your yuv conversion + overlay code, what was the solution for that?
  • [18:36:42] <koen> both vo_omapfb in mplayer and gst-omapfb have the issue, but omapfbplay doesn't seem to have it
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  • [18:51:01] <horse_dung> doshi: took a day or two for me to be given access...
  • [18:51:18] <horse_dung> doshi: this is a good place to ask quick questions...
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  • [19:01:23] <doshi> I am working on bringing up EFI (http://www.uefi.org) on Beagleboard
  • [19:01:41] <shell> horse_dung: it's the same ECC dude as yesterday ..
  • [19:01:48] <doshi> Yup.
  • [19:01:53] <doshi> You got me ;)
  • [19:01:58] <shell> is it ECC as in memory?
  • [19:02:09] <shell> (error correcting code) ..
  • [19:02:10] <doshi> ECC for NAND
  • [19:02:13] <shell> ya
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  • [19:02:36] <shell> how hard can it be? :)
  • [19:02:43] <shell> 2+2=4!
  • [19:03:12] <doshi> Its not hard but not sure how to interpret results from GPMC_ECC_RESULT register.
  • [19:03:15] <doshi> Do you know that?
  • [19:03:27] <shell> no sorry..
  • [19:03:44] <doshi> Ohh ok :)
  • [19:04:21] <doshi> That's the reason I wanted to ask in the mailing list but it seems like I would need to wait for couple of days
  • [19:04:38] <shell> maybe jkridner|work can approve you.
  • [19:05:03] <doshi> Yeah I sent an e-mail to owner of the list.
  • [19:05:23] <DJWillis> koen: ping!
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  • [19:06:16] <doshi> Well my company e-mail got approved instantly but it seems like I can't post using that address.
  • [19:06:34] <doshi> I am receiving all the messages...
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  • [19:07:19] <horse_dung> new members are moderated for a while....
  • [19:07:25] <koen> DJWillis: pong
  • [19:07:55] <horse_dung> shell: did you find any useful info...?
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  • [19:11:15] <DJWillis> koen: just a query, do you plan to push randrproto and xtrans updates to go with the XOrg 1.6.1 push you have done so it all builds clean? (before I look into it).
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  • [19:14:04] <koen> DJWillis: done
  • [19:14:22] <koen> DJWillis: I am hitting an old bug with libx11, which I suspect it local to my machine
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  • [19:15:02] <DJWillis> koen: ahhh, I started to look then went "hmmm, I suspect Koen already fixed this" so stopped ;-)
  • [19:19:11] <mru> koen: that would be caused by per-slice conversion
  • [19:19:35] <mru> the last line of each slice will be handled incorrectly in this case
  • [19:19:50] <mru> the last line always is, but at the bottom of the image nobody notices
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  • [19:22:03] <koen> mru: aaaah, that makes sense
  • [19:22:42] <mru> iirc there's a flag somewhere to do a frame at a time with mplayer
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  • [19:41:09] <keesj> what is this X11 backtrace trying to tel me http://www.paste-it.net/public/i89c7c0/
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  • [19:42:31] <keesj> X crashes when starting gpe-dm or displaing gtk fonts I guess. but xterm works
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  • [19:42:53] <janrinze> do you guys know how to connect to usb_cdc_ether with Vista?
  • [19:46:56] <janrinze> and what about these errors? Buffer I/O error on device mtdblock0, logical block 3
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  • [19:51:16] <jkridner|work> doshi: I'll take a look.
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  • [19:56:59] <koen> mru: -noslices :)
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  • [20:11:42] <Guest80664> hi. Can someone please provide a working boot image for qemu-system-arm? I tried to generate my beagle-nand.bin, but it doesn't work. so I want to make sure that qemu is working.
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  • [20:14:24] <mib_7okahh> hello everyone
  • [20:14:29] <Guest80664> hi
  • [20:14:42] <janrinze> hi :-)
  • [20:14:42] <mib_7okahh> is digikey the only location to getting these boards?
  • [20:14:57] <janrinze> not entirely..
  • [20:15:06] <mib_7okahh> I need 100
  • [20:15:18] <mib_7okahh> and digikey only has 70ish
  • [20:15:23] <janrinze> me too but only had money for one ;-)
  • [20:15:48] <mib_7okahh> hehe, I got a little project going on that will need that many or maybe more than 100
  • [20:16:29] <Guest80664> does anyone have a image file for qemu for the beagle, please?
  • [20:17:12] <keesj> ask on qemu irc?
  • [20:18:11] <mib_7okahh> any ideas who I should contact about making a 100 board run of these?
  • [20:19:12] <Jos1> why so many?
  • [20:19:27] <mib_7okahh> got me some ideas:)
  • [20:19:40] <mib_7okahh> making a beagle board habachi JK:)
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  • [20:31:24] <jkridner|work> mib_7okahh: interesting.
  • [20:31:47] <jkridner|work> mib_7okahh: for more than 25 at a time, you likely need a special arrangement with Digi-Key or the contract manufacturer.
  • [20:32:02] <jkridner|work> or place orders for 25 at a time. guess that might be ok.
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  • [20:32:38] <jkridner|work> I know that Digi-Key has another 800 arriving this week.
  • [20:34:17] <janrinze> Guest80664: try http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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  • [20:34:56] <shell> ajax baby!
  • [20:35:01] <jkridner|work> koen and all: I'm getting some questions about what the leopardboard should be. Is it a problem that the codecs are done in hardware?
  • [20:35:23] <Guest80664> janrinze: thanks for the pointer. I will try one of the images from there.
  • [20:35:39] <koen> jkridner|work: I think the problem is more that it's lacking a modern kernel and matching userspace
  • [20:36:06] <koen> jkridner|work: but AIUI it isn't really hw, but programmable blocks
  • [20:36:09] <Jos1> hmm, beowolf cluster of beagleboards
  • [20:37:19] <eFfeM> jkridner|work: codecs in hw brings the problem of them not being upgradeable in case of bugs
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  • [20:40:40] <Guest80664> janrize; hm. i tried, but I get the same error. maybe I'm starting it incorrectly. At the moment my command line is: "./qemu-system-arm -M beagle -kernel u-boot.bin"
  • [20:41:45] <jkridner|work> koen: what is lacking regarding the kernel, just certain drivers, right? have you seen http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php?title=DaVinci_GIT_Linux_Kernel ?
  • [20:42:34] <koen> jkridner|work: and have you noticed the red in the video department?
  • [20:43:00] <koen> jkridner|work: apart from that, the leopardboard seems to be getting ignored by TI patches that thouch board files
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  • [20:43:46] <jkridner|work> linux-omap patches or ones going to davinci-linux-open-source?
  • [20:44:02] <koen> jkridner|work: d-l-o-s
  • [20:44:12] <jkridner|work> k.
  • [20:44:38] <koen> but even if video is working, we'd still need sensor drivers
  • [20:44:44] <koen> and iirc no-one is working on those
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  • [20:45:29] <mib_lennev> Hello, has anyone gotten touch screen to work with an Angstrom distribution?
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  • [20:45:57] <muriani> I believe it's working with with Angstrom on the Pandora
  • [20:46:51] <sakoman_> mib_lennev: yes, it works on gumstix overo also
  • [20:46:54] <Guest80664> janrize; hm. i tried, but I get the same error. maybe I'm starting it incorrectly. At the moment my command line is: "./qemu-system-arm -M beagle -kernel u-boot.bin"
  • [20:47:14] <mib_lennev> Ok thanks....I was able to boot Angstrom on Zoom2....stuff like touch screen, mouse, keyboard doesn't work yet....need to figure out why.
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  • [21:12:35] <DJWillis> koen: that libx11 issue that was driving you nuts earlier, was it in libx11-native?
  • [21:12:57] <koen> yes
  • [21:13:13] <koen> we had it 2-3 years ago as well
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  • [21:13:22] <koen> the fix then was to go from 1o to 15
  • [21:13:56] <DJWillis> not the makekeys rubbish I assume then ;-)
  • [21:14:28] * koen stabs makekeys
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  • [21:14:56] <DJWillis> koen: Yep, that would be one way to kill it ;-)
  • [21:15:58] <bobkatzz> NOTE: Unpacking /home/bobkatzz/downloads/config_cvs.sv.gnu.org__20050701.tar.gz to /home/bobkatzz/angstrom-dev/work/i686-linux/gnu-config-native-0.1+cvs20050701-r5/ gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors NOTE: Task failed: NOTE: package gnu-config-native-0.1+cvs20050701-r5: task do_unpack: f
  • [21:16:14] <bobkatzz> nayone got a take on that?
  • [21:16:26] <koen> bobkatzz: corrupted download, bad disk, bad ram, take your pick
  • [21:16:48] <bobkatzz> ok so just run it again?
  • [21:16:58] <bobkatzz> run the git part of it?
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  • [21:19:19] <koen> rm /home/bobkatzz/downloads/config_cvs*
  • [21:19:55] <bobkatzz> ok
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  • [21:21:12] <bobkatzz> got that done
  • [21:22:14] <bobkatzz> then run "bitbake base-image ; bitbake console-image ; bitbake x11-image " again (trying without gnuradio as test)
  • [21:22:22] <bobkatzz> ??
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  • [21:23:03] <koen> if you want those 3 images
  • [21:24:25] <bobkatzz> yeah - where does the resulting file(s) end up?
  • [21:25:39] <bobkatzz> NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)
  • [21:25:55] <bobkatzz> is that ok? (still processing)
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  • [21:27:28] <bobkatzz> those are the images in the example so I'm starting with those to see how everything works (or not, so far hehe)
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  • [21:34:29] <bobkatzz> 2009-05-27 17:28:01 (471 KB/s) - `/home/bobkatzz/downloads/automake-1.10.2.tar.bz2' saved [936322] < - - is this the result of the build (or one of the builds)?
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  • [21:35:03] <bobkatzz> just trying to learn what
  • [21:35:12] <bobkatzz> 's going on here - oops
  • [21:37:10] <bobkatzz> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 54 tasks of which 54 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/bobkatzz/openembedded/recipes/gnu-config/gnu-config-native_20050701.bb' failed NOTE: build 200905271730: completed
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  • [21:37:41] <bobkatzz> even though that failed it said completed - what does that mean?
  • [21:38:12] <bobkatzz> where is the build file?
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  • [21:44:45] <bobkatzz> ok so the automake-xxxx.tar.bz2 is the resulting image? I notice there are two other files in there with a similar name and an "md5" extension what are those?
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  • [21:52:31] <bobkatzz> still trying to understand what's happening here - any takers?
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  • [21:57:59] <muriani> md5 is likely a generated hash that can be used to verify proper data transference
  • [21:58:27] <muriani> transfer the .bz2 elsewhere, you can create an md5 hash and compare it with the one you have there
  • [21:58:34] <muriani> if they match, it transferred correctly
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  • [21:58:45] <muriani> That's generally what it's used for.
  • [21:59:19] <muriani> also, automake is a utility
  • [21:59:54] <muriani> it sounds like it was downloading them, and the md5 would be used to verify that one downloaded correctly
  • [22:00:02] <bobkatzz> well they were both produces at the same timestamp and one is like 1.5M and the other is 32bytes
  • [22:00:08] <muriani> right
  • [22:00:25] <muriani> one is just a hash that would be compared with the original fime to verify it
  • [22:00:29] <muriani> *file
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  • [22:00:52] <muriani> it seems that gnu-config-native failed to download though. I imagine you need that.
  • [22:01:11] <muriani> oh
  • [22:01:25] <muriani> nevermind, it failed to open. Does the file exist?
  • [22:01:52] <muriani> oh, right, it did fail to download.
  • [22:01:53] <bobkatzz> which file?
  • [22:02:01] <muriani> gnu-config
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  • [22:02:21] <muriani> sorry, I've been progressively reading further and further up in my scrollback
  • [22:02:23] <bobkatzz> we've had to do a fair amount of patching here and there based on other errors
  • [22:02:35] <bobkatzz> yeah it's been a challenge
  • [22:03:04] <muriani> yeah
  • [22:03:08] <muriani> OE can be like that
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  • [22:03:24] <muriani> I don't even know if my OE toolchain even works, honestly :p
  • [22:03:37] <bobkatzz> earlier we got a an error that the package was not a proper tar file
  • [22:03:49] <muriani> not proper gzip, yeah
  • [22:03:55] <bobkatzz> so what's the alternative, hehe?
  • [22:04:02] <muriani> that coule likely be due to a bad download, etc
  • [22:04:08] <bobkatzz> persistance I imagine
  • [22:04:47] <bobkatzz> yeah that's what koen said so I deleted the entire openembedded directory and started all over sfrom scratch
  • [22:04:54] <muriani> also, it seemed that it was looking for it in a place that wasn't where it was being untar/gzipped to?
  • [22:04:57] <muriani> yeha
  • [22:05:07] <muriani> that's generally what you do in this case
  • [22:05:42] <bobkatzz> once you follow the <<"instructions">> everything should be in the right place - one would assume
  • [22:06:13] <bobkatzz> there was some problem with python that my son uncovered (and fixed) as well
  • [22:06:36] <bobkatzz> so we're not talking about simplistic stuff here - as some would put forth
  • [22:07:53] <bobkatzz> I'm almost tempted to create a new virtual machine in VMWare and REALLY start over from scratch - wonder what that would get me?
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  • [22:08:04] <muriani> Some distributions seem to be harder to install OE in, as well
  • [22:08:18] <bobkatzz> yeah I'm using Ubuntu
  • [22:08:25] <bobkatzz> on VMWare
  • [22:08:26] <muriani> I think Arch Linux is the one that's geared toward OE use
  • [22:09:06] <bobkatzz> It would be nice to have that mentioned somewhere in the <<"instructions">> hehe
  • [22:09:13] <muriani> well
  • [22:09:19] <muriani> it can be installed on pretty much any
  • [22:09:27] <muriani> but some are easier than others, I'd wager
  • [22:10:05] <bobkatzz> so - ok - a question - now that I have this automake xxx file - is that the tarball that I untar onto my SD?
  • [22:10:10] <muriani> no
  • [22:10:17] <muriani> likely not
  • [22:10:29] <bobkatzz> ok so what do I do with it?
  • [22:10:40] <muriani> automake is a helper utility for compiling
  • [22:10:47] <bobkatzz> why am I bitbaking and what is the result?
  • [22:10:49] <muriani> OE should do what it needs with it
  • [22:11:06] <bobkatzz> ok where is the resulting file that bitbake creates?
  • [22:11:22] <muriani> the file for your beagle?
  • [22:11:25] <bobkatzz> and what format is it and what do I do with it after it makes it?
  • [22:11:29] <muriani> it's likely not even created yet
  • [22:11:33] <bobkatzz> yeah for beagle
  • [22:11:57] <muriani> if you failed on gnu-config earlier, I doubt the image built.
  • [22:12:15] <muriani> but sadly, my experience with OE is only slightly more than yours.
  • [22:12:25] <bobkatzz> hey - I've learned fucking celestial navigation - talk about obtuse - but this really takes the cake hehe
  • [22:13:01] <muriani> Ark Linux
  • [22:13:02] <muriani> that's it
  • [22:13:16] <bobkatzz> at least there was someone to explain it - all these wikis and directions stop about 3 steps short of what is acutally taking place
  • [22:13:19] <muriani> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Ark_Linux_2008.1
  • [22:13:38] <bobkatzz> ok - will fsck it out hehe
  • [22:14:34] <bobkatzz> all I really want is to get hamlib and fldigi onto my SD card and booted on the BB - FFS!
  • [22:14:55] <bobkatzz> and of course gcc if they really depend on that
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  • [22:15:55] <bobkatzz> I was starting to just get the source code and install it right on the BB direct when I heard about this OE stuff and thought that might be a better thing to learn how to do
  • [22:16:16] <bobkatzz> so - maybe I'm 49% there hehe
  • [22:16:17] <muriani> Depending on what you're doing, it can be
  • [22:16:24] <muriani> once it's set up, it's a LOT faster
  • [22:16:44] <bobkatzz> well I'm a glutton for punishment that for sure :)
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  • [22:18:38] <bobkatzz> well according to that link that you gave me above Ubuntu is well documneted as a derivitive of Debian and well suited for OE
  • [22:18:56] <bobkatzz> so that should not be the problem
  • [22:20:10] <muriani> http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=39
  • [22:20:21] <bobkatzz> from your experience - what exactly is the output from bitbake? a file? the file you untar onto your SD card?
  • [22:20:28] <muriani> I don't remember
  • [22:20:43] <muriani> it's been around a year since I last tried anything with OE
  • [22:21:03] <bobkatzz> is it the only method for executing OE?
  • [22:21:32] <muriani> hmm, nvm, that link I gave you doesn't have angstrom package, just sharprom and sonkei
  • [22:21:50] <muriani> bitbake is the only way to use OE, yes
  • [22:22:06] <muriani> since the entire OE system is built on top of bitbake
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  • [22:25:19] <bobkatzz> or is it a "quickie" set of tools that somebody came up with?
  • [22:26:05] <bobkatzz> ok got that (got a recruiting phone call in the mean time)
  • [22:26:17] <bobkatzz> gotta love those :D
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  • [22:28:41] <bobkatzz> so ok - so I'm gonna go grill some chicken and then get back on this OE thing - I'v never been defeated yet - damned if this is gonna do it :D
  • [22:29:35] <bobkatzz> wish I had a better idea of all the component parts of the "toolchain" and how they work though - that would be immensely useful
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  • [22:30:39] <bobkatzz> ok so thanks muriani, for that last link - I will take a look at it in a bit
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  • [22:35:08] <bobkatzz> oh - reading a bit of that muriani, the guy states how easy it is (and guesses that he is not a newbie) and then goes on how to set everything up - no problemmo - then there are about 20+ posts taking issue with almost every statement and instruction he's given -
  • [22:36:20] <muriani> well
  • [22:36:38] <muriani> I'm looking back at the OEand Your Distro bit on the OE wiki
  • [22:36:48] <bobkatzz> some with obviously more authority than he can muster - I think this is relatively typical of all this stuff - it's not alot different in the ham radio world except I think the hams are more prone to admit they're not infallible, Ha ha
  • [22:37:10] <muriani> the debian instructions are what I followed, and generally worked, from what I remember
  • [22:38:07] <bobkatzz> yeah - I started to do that but then koen sadi to just follow (very stricktly, as I took it) the steps on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  • [22:38:12] <muriani> basically, I did that, and then followed what I needed to in the Getting Started portion of the wiki
  • [22:38:28] <bobkatzz> so I rolled back deleted some directories and took a fly at it again
  • [22:38:59] <muriani> yeha, I ended up going back and forth between them
  • [22:39:05] <bobkatzz> but I have a suspision that the stuff I did first may have screwed up the later things
  • [22:39:18] <muriani> well
  • [22:39:28] <bobkatzz> in terms of permissions etc
  • [22:39:48] <muriani> possibly
  • [22:39:56] <muriani> I did that myself, I think
  • [22:40:07] <muriani> hacked around it
  • [22:40:14] <muriani> (I probably shouldn't have)
  • [22:40:17] <bobkatzz> cuz my son had to go in a hack some database for an error we were getting and then it kinda worked better, go to the next step - but there we are
  • [22:41:44] <bobkatzz> I'm going to write a book called "Evrything you wanted to know about OE but were afraid to ask because it might cost you some street cred on Beagleboard.Chat" hehe
  • [22:42:13] <bobkatzz> I think that 's what we're really talking about
  • [22:42:15] <muriani> lol
  • [22:42:26] <bobkatzz> it's a shame too
  • [22:42:34] <muriani> heh, if I dont' know, I generally ask
  • [22:42:45] <muriani> I'm sure I'll have my share of questions when I get my beagle
  • [22:42:51] <bobkatzz> after all it's supposed to be opensource hehe
  • [22:43:38] <bobkatzz> yeah I got it to boot with lxde - and Angstrom - recognized my ethernet card and everything
  • [22:44:06] <bobkatzz> it's been 3 weeks that I've been through the mill but it
  • [22:44:32] <bobkatzz> is coming along - and, really the help is here is for the most part very good
  • [22:44:35] <bobkatzz> in
  • [22:45:04] <bobkatzz> I hope that I can be of help once I get all this up and running
  • [22:45:29] <bobkatzz> I do intend to write one hell of a wiki though
  • [22:45:41] <bobkatzz> ok - grilling chicken
  • [22:45:47] <bobkatzz> be well & 73
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