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  • [01:44:37] <sradhakrishna> how do i list all ttyusb s available and which ttyusb my beagle is going to connect to?
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  • [01:44:54] <sradhakrishna> i have my system connected to a hub and then a cable connecting the hub and the beagle
  • [01:54:16] <Animule> mmm dirt bikes are awesome :D
  • [02:00:26] <emeb_mac> how about ducks on dirtbikes?
  • [02:07:08] <vlad_> trolls in gucci?
  • [02:25:56] <Animule> Ducks and dirtbikes: http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/dakar_01_12/31_17518063.jpg
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  • [04:27:02] <slim> i'm interested in buying a 1080p display. will the beagle have trouble displaying real time video on this display?
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  • [04:53:34] <MrLook> hi everyone
  • [04:53:38] <MrLook> i have a simple problem
  • [04:53:40] <Animule> Greetings.
  • [04:53:47] * Animule has lots of problems
  • [04:53:50] <MrLook> where can i find the latest xloader
  • [04:53:54] <MrLook> and uboot files
  • [04:54:00] <MrLook> for sd boot
  • [04:54:06] <MrLook> i mean
  • [04:54:08] <MrLook> not the latest
  • [04:54:11] <MrLook> but for revc
  • [04:54:11] * Animule can't help you with that one :\
  • [04:54:13] <MrLook> basically
  • [04:54:29] <MrLook> thanks anyway animule
  • [04:56:06] <MrLook> anyone have the uboot and xloader
  • [04:56:11] <MrLook> for revc?
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  • [05:58:47] <favor> hi, all
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  • [06:26:07] <adj> gm
  • [06:29:54] <koen> good morning all
  • [06:30:09] <ds2> morning koen
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  • [07:49:39] <mib_lvj3qtf> i connected evm to a monitor to get desktop. i supplied 1280 720 resolution in bootargs, but when i check on the monitor it shows 640 480 resolution
  • [07:49:56] <mib_lvj3qtf> am i missing something
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  • [08:03:29] <puppy2> does anyone know what mmc memory cards are supported? specific or general cards?
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  • [08:05:17] <favor> hi. all. one question about OE bitbake myown-image, I need your help. please see at: http://pastebin.ca/1401674
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  • [08:31:39] <s0lid> sup
  • [08:32:14] <s0lid> http://beyondinfinite.com/lcd/Library/Toshiba/LTD089EXWS.pdf found better panel :)
  • [08:32:18] <s0lid> Led backlight
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  • [08:45:45] <MostAwesomeDude> Question: Has anybody ever used a zd1211 or similar usb wifi interface?
  • [08:49:45] <adj> yes
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  • [09:00:35] <hrw> morning
  • [09:01:40] <Sinky> hi hrw
  • [09:02:33] <Sinky> guys do you have any idea how can FULLY erase NAND flash (including bad block markers).. I do not have U-boot which supports erase scrub command.. I have erase, but not erase scrub
  • [09:02:34] <Sinky> ?
  • [09:04:05] <hrw> use mtd-utils?
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  • [09:04:36] <mib_lvj3qtf> mtd utils skips bad blocks
  • [09:04:49] <mib_lvj3qtf> erasing bad blocks is a bad idea
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  • [09:05:35] <puppy2> does nand keep a bad block area?
  • [09:06:38] <puppy2> or remember the bad block areas so they are not used?
  • [09:06:44] <mib_lvj3qtf> that information is stored in the oob area
  • [09:07:05] <mib_lvj3qtf> probably the first or second byte indicates it is a bad block
  • [09:07:37] <puppy2> so doing a full erase is a bad idea... just like HD's.
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  • [09:08:29] <Sinky> hrw yes. it skips bad blocks
  • [09:08:37] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf I have 1200 bad blocks
  • [09:08:41] <Sinky> which are marked as bad
  • [09:08:50] <Sinky> but I am NOT sure they are really bad
  • [09:08:59] <puppy2> and creates a map file most likely to skip those bad ones
  • [09:10:11] <Sinky> So I need full erase
  • [09:10:13] <Sinky> :)
  • [09:11:37] <hrw> Sinky: EMP will erase it fully ;D
  • [09:12:22] <MostAwesomeDude> adj: Does it "just work?"
  • [09:12:40] <MostAwesomeDude> I've got zd1211-firmware and the zd1211rw module, but it's not wanting to load the FW.
  • [09:12:45] <Sinky> hrw good idea :)
  • [09:12:57] <puppy2> anyone know if mmc memory has to be a specific type or any type will do?
  • [09:13:06] <mib_lvj3qtf> sinky: i think you need a full erase
  • [09:13:28] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf yes. but how can I do it...
  • [09:13:32] <mib_lvj3qtf> compile a u-boot with scrub
  • [09:13:39] <puppy2> for the begal board.
  • [09:14:07] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: with my own system on beagle rev B4 it "just works", I enabled zd1211rw in kernel, compiled the firmware and put it under /lib/firmware
  • [09:14:14] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf can't I do that with mtd-utils or something like that .. ?
  • [09:14:31] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: but now with rev C and ?ngstr?m console-image i'm having huge issues with it
  • [09:14:46] <mib_lvj3qtf> sinky: i am not sure
  • [09:15:44] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: i'm yet to try with angstrom and OTG port, but at least on the EHCI port i'm getting errors -2 and -110 when loading the firmware
  • [09:15:53] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf btw do you have any what is the source of this issue (nand driver or.. ?) I have two boards, and they have the same issue.. so it's not hardware issue.. If I do more tests on them the count of the bad blocks is getting bigger?
  • [09:16:00] <Sinky> could it be ecc issue or ?
  • [09:16:16] <MostAwesomeDude> adj: Glad to know it's not just me. :3
  • [09:16:47] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: once or twice i got it to work, sort of. iwlist scan found my AP but i could not associate with it :(
  • [09:16:51] <mib_lvj3qtf> sinky: you have a temorary issue, i dont think your nand is gone bad. download a u-boot with scrub and see what happens
  • [09:18:28] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf but maybe the driver is bad ? It's a customized driver
  • [09:18:36] <mib_lvj3qtf> sinky: may be
  • [09:19:14] <hrw> adj: AP with wep/wpa?
  • [09:19:55] <adj> hrw: with and without any encryption
  • [09:25:01] <s0lid> what's the voltage of BBs LCD output?
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  • [09:26:46] <s0lid> i mean the bits signal voltage
  • [09:28:10] <puppy2> on the output interface?
  • [09:29:44] <s0lid> yea... just checked 1.8V...
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  • [09:30:17] <s0lid> sigh.. only LVDS chip there is SN75LVDS83B and it's not available yet :|
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  • [09:30:25] <s0lid> Oh only compatible
  • [09:30:40] <puppy2> page 87 of manual...
  • [09:31:09] <puppy2> all signals are 1.8
  • [09:31:22] <s0lid> i know...
  • [09:31:25] <puppy2> dvi_pup is 3.3
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  • [09:32:37] <s0lid> Yea but most of LVDS chips need 3.3V input
  • [09:34:12] <puppy2> maybe use a bufer
  • [09:34:15] <puppy2> buffer
  • [09:35:23] <s0lid> Nah i'll wait to june when the LVDS83B is available
  • [09:36:15] <puppy2> is there an easy way to turn on the S-video?
  • [09:36:33] <puppy2> clone the hdmi dsiplay
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  • [09:48:06] <puppy2> according to page 23, in order to work, a sd/mmc card must support 3v 4bit... so how do i know which mmc memory has this spec?
  • [09:48:33] <puppy2> they all look the same on ebay...
  • [09:50:23] <hrw> 4bit?
  • [09:50:35] <hrw> I thought that mmc was 1bit and thats minimal setup
  • [09:51:03] <puppy2> thats what the manual says...
  • [09:51:08] <adj> every card i have tested have so far worked fine, both MMC and SD
  • [09:51:12] <adj> and SDHC
  • [09:51:58] <puppy2> so not to worry, pick one and go with it?
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  • [09:52:10] <hrw> I got rid of real mmc ones year ago..
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  • [09:53:48] <adj> i just this week found a shitload of spare 2G MMC cards from our office, of course i had to save those poor things from being destroyed :)
  • [09:54:12] <hrw> ;D
  • [09:54:15] <hrw> lucky you
  • [09:54:24] <puppy2> of, course... we understand completely... ;)
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  • [09:57:29] <puppy2> has anyone played with other linux supported wifi usb things
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  • [10:00:28] <puppy2> refering to page 122...
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  • [10:23:22] <rupeshgujare> khasim: can we have private chat ?
  • [10:24:41] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [10:25:03] <hrw> hi jkridner
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  • [11:08:49] <s0lid> Ugh...
  • [11:09:01] <s0lid> I've one dual LVDS 19" 1280x1024 Panel here...
  • [11:09:31] <s0lid> Just checked what it needs if i want to get picture out of it via DVI...
  • [11:10:24] <s0lid> Well only 2 chips TIs TFP403A and DS90C387, costs aruond 25$ but here's the catch, they both have 100pins :D
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  • [12:33:00] <jkridner|work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSZ6I-A01wk
  • [12:33:09] <jkridner|work> more folks doing Quake3 with OMAP3.
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  • [13:23:13] <DJWillis> jkridner: It's hard to find any OMAP3530 that can't run the Quake's these days ;-)
  • [13:24:18] <XorA> time for Quake 4 on beagle I think
  • [13:25:04] <DJWillis> XorA: ;-) ok, maybe not.
  • [13:26:06] <XorA> anyone sent Carmack a beagle or two :-)
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  • [13:35:07] <khasi1> jkridner: ping
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  • [13:41:26] <royerfa> Is there a tuto on Howto build Quake for Beagle or OMAP3EVM ?
  • [13:41:59] <hrw> royerfa: 'bitbake quake quake2 quake3'?
  • [13:42:41] <royerfa> anyone actually
  • [13:43:16] <hrw> royerfa: OE has quakes in metadata
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  • [13:45:01] <royerfa> ok cool
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  • [13:49:21] <koen> good morning all
  • [13:49:48] <mru> morning koen
  • [13:50:02] <NishanthMenon> GM
  • [13:50:53] * Crofton|work listens to Uriah Heep and tries to think in verilog ....
  • [13:51:18] <Crofton|work> need to find the neurons that knew how to do CUPL for 22v10 ...
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  • [13:57:36] <koen> DJWillis: any news on the sources for the quake3 gl->gles shim?
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  • [14:01:08] <koen> hmmm
  • [14:01:15] <koen> my sheevaplug is still in memphis
  • [14:01:28] <Crofton|work> bummer
  • [14:01:34] <Crofton|work> not that you need more toys
  • [14:02:42] <koen> actually...
  • [14:02:48] <koen> it has departed memphis
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  • [14:19:25] <emqbit> hello everyone... has anyone tried with success flash on the beagleboard?
  • [14:19:40] <emqbit> i've tried gnash with neon support but it's pretty slow
  • [14:20:43] <koen> is it actually using neon of only the vfplite?
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  • [14:21:16] <emqbit> i recompiled the kernel with neon option active
  • [14:21:29] <jkridner|work> but what about the gnash build?
  • [14:22:12] * koen wonders what "recompiled" implies
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  • [14:22:19] <koen> the angstrom kernel has neon on by default
  • [14:22:22] <emqbit> yeap... it was only inactive in the kernel
  • [14:22:49] <emqbit> cpuinfo shows that it was not active
  • [14:22:53] <emqbit> so i recompiled it
  • [14:23:47] <koen> root@beagleboard:~# zcat /proc/config.gz | grep NEON
  • [14:23:48] <koen> CONFIG_NEON=y
  • [14:24:49] <emqbit> mmm... ok...
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  • [14:25:17] <mru> turning on CONFIG_NEON won't make apps magically use it
  • [14:25:25] <emqbit> i have it now like that
  • [14:25:43] <emqbit> anyway i'm having problems with flash applications
  • [14:26:06] <emqbit> i've heard that Swfdec is a good option... what about that?
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  • [14:28:08] <emqbit> maybe was beacuse i used the bgeinners angstrom version without neon
  • [14:28:18] <emqbit> anyway... any advice?
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  • [14:29:27] <florian> hi RichiH
  • [14:29:36] * koen sigh
  • [14:29:51] <koen> emqbit: I recommend you read up on vfp and neon a bit before making more comments
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  • [14:31:55] <koen> emqbit: the rule of thumb is that neon is only used if you handwrite the neon assembly yourself (.e.g like mru did for ffmpeg and ianr for xf86-video-omapfb)
  • [14:32:08] <koen> and ssvb did for bluez4
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  • [14:36:47] <sakoman_> sheesh! what is it with people writing asking me to do their school work
  • [14:37:00] <DJWillis> koen: I thought you had all the source now, my bad, what do you need? (not been looking at that side of things).
  • [14:37:11] <koen> sakoman_: "I have problem, you solve for me!"
  • [14:37:26] <XorA> "I demand, you write me driver!"
  • [14:37:39] <koen> DJWillis: I don't know what I need, but I'd like to have everything :)
  • [14:37:45] <sakoman_> "I doing work experience for my exam of the end years is programming ... I have seen your e-mail adresse on internet and if you want to send me that you have already do or if you have some help program for me ,that would be very awesome."
  • [14:38:28] <DJWillis> koen: not a problem, I don't have it to hand or I would have zipped it up ages ago. I'll see what I can do.
  • [14:38:42] <DJWillis> sakoman_: urggg ;-)
  • [14:38:47] <koen> I've had too many of those to attribute it to "difficulty with the english language"
  • [14:38:47] <sakoman_> I seem to be getting a couple of those each day!
  • [14:39:12] <sakoman_> heh, some of my emails sound like that :-)
  • [14:39:38] <sakoman_> read them later and wonder what drug I was on!
  • [14:39:48] <koen> I don't mind helping people, but it turns out that only thick morons write those kind of mails, so you have to repeat every step 10 times
  • [14:40:22] <sakoman_> I'll try not to rant
  • [14:40:50] <koen> my bad vibes about the guy asking about x11 on the beagle list came true
  • [14:41:12] <koen> asking about source and a few days later asking how to compile it
  • [14:42:04] <XorA> koen: I think 80% of the internet think if they whine enough you'll get fedup and do it for them
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  • [14:42:19] <pmeerw_> hi (I hardly dare to ask a question :)
  • [14:42:48] <koen> XorA: no, we get a plane ticket and beat them up in their homes with a clue-by-4
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  • [14:43:11] <pmeerw_> does anyone know if the sound driver on the beagle supports duplex? ie. doing playback and recording at the same time with ALSA?
  • [14:43:37] <pmeerw_> I mean the Linux driver rather than the hardware
  • [14:43:40] <sakoman_> pmeerw_: IIRC it does, though I've never tried doing it :-)
  • [14:44:00] <sakoman_> why don't you try and let us know ;-)
  • [14:44:08] <koen> if I say oss4 is so much more awesome will 4front start sending me $$$$$?
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  • [14:44:46] <XorA> pmeerw_: easy enough to test arecord -f cd | aplay
  • [14:44:50] <hrw> koen: oss4 rulez!
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  • [14:45:46] <koen> XorA: if you have a kernel with the "fix-audio-capture.patch" patch :)
  • [14:46:37] <pmeerw_> which is in OE?
  • [14:46:38] * XorA blames koen for any missing patches
  • [14:46:51] <sakoman_> pmeerw_: yes it is
  • [14:47:09] <koen> the 2.6.29 recipe only has 122 patches
  • [14:47:14] <koen> 53 for dss2 :)
  • [14:48:09] <koen> tomba: did hardik send you the patches to document the alphblending sysfs nodes?
  • [14:48:33] <sakoman_> koen: I'm lazy: git diff master >> dss2.patch
  • [14:48:47] <pmeerw_> I've been testing with 2.6.28 but will try 2.6.29 now; my tests were unsuccessful BTW (ALSA reporting buffer underruns)
  • [14:49:01] <koen> sakoman_: that sucks when there are conflicts (e.g. pm branch)
  • [14:49:15] <koen> sakoman_: FWIW, pm 2.6.29 doesn't boot on overo
  • [14:49:26] <pmeerw_> thx for info so far, will report the results
  • [14:49:38] <sakoman_> koen: a couple of reasons why I've been ignoring PM
  • [14:49:58] <sakoman_> I keep hoping it will trickle into mainline
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  • [14:50:08] <koen> sakoman_: I have a patch to add cpufreq support to overo, but can't test it since it doesn't boot
  • [14:50:24] <sakoman_> :-(
  • [14:50:56] <mru> koen: isn't that the same as saying the patch doesn't work?
  • [14:51:38] <koen> sort of
  • [14:52:23] <koen> this is the patch: http://pastebin.com/m4065c1c8
  • [14:52:57] <koen> the pm branch is fairly useless anyway since it won't to any PM is you use usb or sd
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  • [14:56:11] <royerfa> Can someone point me to the Quake sources ... I am struggling to find it
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  • [14:56:44] <koen> royerfa: install OE, look in recipes/quake/*bb and look at SRC_URI
  • [14:56:52] * sakoman_ is doing some factory scripts
  • [14:57:09] <hrw> koen: I just said same on #oe ;D
  • [14:57:12] <hrw> royerfa: cd oe/recipes/quake/; use less to read recipes and check SRC_URI
  • [14:57:41] <royerfa> lol thx
  • [14:58:14] <sakoman_> koen: gpe-question is handy for production line dialogs
  • [14:58:26] <sakoman_> I need a gpe-statusbar :-)
  • [14:59:06] * sakoman_ is trying desperately not to have to write real code
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  • [15:01:04] <favor> hi,koen
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  • [15:02:02] <Sinky> guys which is better to use for 64 MB NAND - JFFS2 or YAFFS2?
  • [15:02:32] <koen> ubifs
  • [15:02:42] <koen> yaffs2 has more bugs than lines of code
  • [15:03:06] <Sinky> koen why ? ubifs better than jffs2 for ex ?
  • [15:03:35] <koen> faster, uses less ram, more robust, scales better, faster mount times
  • [15:04:13] <Sinky> koen, and its advantage to yaffs2 ?
  • [15:04:27] <koen> ubifs is already in the mainline kernel
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  • [15:04:41] <koen> a steaming turd would have advantages of yaffs2
  • [15:05:49] <Sinky> koen my kernel is 2.6.21 ? what about ubifs support ?
  • [15:05:56] <hrw> yaffs2 was developed for long time and never got into mainline kernel. I think that this shows lack of quality
  • [15:06:45] <koen> yaffs2 was also done by the same company that couldn't figure out how to build an eabi toolchain
  • [15:07:33] <Sinky> and what about NOR ? ubifs as well ?
  • [15:09:35] <Sinky> ubifs is the best choise ?
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  • [15:10:42] * koen has no nor flash
  • [15:11:02] <koen> I think #mtd (if that exists) is a better choice to ask those questions
  • [15:12:04] <mib_z33ehz> Can jffs2 be used with NOR? Because if it can, then I belive ubifs can too - afaik they do similar low-level stuff.
  • [15:12:13] <Sinky> koen 3 users there :)
  • [15:12:30] <Sinky> mib_lvj3qtf I use nor with jffs2
  • [15:12:31] <Sinky> so it can
  • [15:13:06] <hrw> jffs2 can be used even with mtdram but still will be slow;D
  • [15:13:53] <koen> yaffs2 was originally developed because jffs2 didn't support NAND, only NOR
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  • [15:16:34] <jkridner|work> Another BeagleBoard clone: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.52rd.com%2FS_TXT%2F2009_4%2FTXT15483.HTM&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&history_state0=
  • [15:17:16] <Sinky> btw can I use ubifs with 2.6.21 kernel ?
  • [15:17:38] <hrw> Sinky: can try to backport...
  • [15:17:39] <koen> Sinky: have a look at the linux-mtd site, they have backport patches
  • [15:18:45] * koen notes that 2.6.21 is ancient
  • [15:19:23] <hrw> koen: its not ancient - its older
  • [15:19:28] <Sinky> ;)
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  • [15:20:59] <Sinky> but koen jffs2 currently supports NAND ?
  • [15:21:16] <koen> yes, since 2.4.x
  • [15:21:46] <mib_z33ehz> re. the clone board: Fun auto-translation, I liked the 'ARM small nuclear power'
  • [15:21:46] <koen> hrw: it seems the dm355 folks agree with me that 2.6.10 is ancient
  • [15:21:48] <Sinky> ok, you talk for a long time ago
  • [15:21:54] <koen> hrw: so now they uploaded a 2.6.18 kernel.....
  • [15:22:16] <hrw> koen: wow - nearly like my n810
  • [15:22:20] <Sinky> koen does ubifs support any compression ?
  • [15:22:37] <koen> Sinky: yes, you can choose the compression algo
  • [15:22:50] <hrw> mib_z33ehz: yes "The processor integrates the ARM small nuclear power"
  • [15:23:26] <Sinky> and fsck ?
  • [15:23:35] * mib_z33ehz reaches for the lead blanket
  • [15:23:45] * DJWillis notes that Google Translate used to love refering to the GP2X as "powered by the great ARM's Green Onion".
  • [15:24:06] <mib_z33ehz> :-)
  • [15:25:11] <Sinky> there is not fsck for jfss2
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  • [15:25:19] <Sinky> koen, what about for ubifs?
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  • [15:26:36] <koen> iirc ubifs fscks itself kinda like jffs2 does
  • [15:27:56] <hrw> kernel.bbclass:# A machine.conf or local.conf can increase MACHINE_KERNEL_PR to force
  • [15:27:59] <hrw> kernel.bbclass:PR = "${MACHINE_KERNEL_PR}"
  • [15:28:13] <hrw> koen: we have to change it..
  • [15:28:24] <hrw> koen: my kernel recipe has r26 but builds as r0..
  • [15:29:11] <koen> "A machine.conf or local.conf can increase MACHINE_KERNEL_PR" <- like that says :)
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  • [15:30:00] <koen> hrw: you can change bitbake.conf to do MACHINE_KERNEL_PR ?= $PR instead of = r0
  • [15:30:05] <hrw> koen: we have to fix all machines?
  • [15:30:09] <hrw> good test
  • [15:30:41] <koen> the r0 was on purpose so all machines can get fixed (or someone comes up with a better implementation)
  • [15:30:49] <DJWillis> koen: baked AUFS recently? The MACHINE_KERNEL_PR was causing some fun for me recently that I did not get to the bottom of.
  • [15:31:07] <koen> I've never used aufs
  • [15:31:16] <koen> my sd card is big enough
  • [15:31:35] <koen> and 256mb nand is large enough to hold distcc + toolchain :)
  • [15:31:37] <DJWillis> ;-), could you try it with MACHINE_KERNEL_PR setup if you get a chance?
  • [15:32:01] <DJWillis> koen: tried that idea on Pandora's ;-)
  • [15:32:13] <DJWillis> The distcc + toolchain.
  • [15:32:19] <koen> DJWillis: remove the PR = r3 in the aufs recipe
  • [15:32:27] <tomba> koen: I did get some patches, but I haven't had time to check them out
  • [15:32:41] <koen> DJWillis: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/Beaglecube.pdf
  • [15:32:50] <koen> DJWillis: and http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/Beaglecube_090215.avi
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  • [15:33:27] <koen> tomba: great, I was wondering whether the patches were already sent or not
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  • [15:33:59] <DJWillis> koen: ahhh, ta
  • [15:34:47] <DJWillis> koen: yep, I have some Pandora's setup like that (not 3 mind you, I was going to add one of my Beagles to complete the triplet).
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  • [15:37:21] <DJWillis> koen: I got the 2 seeing each other but using the usbnet and the host port rather then OTG>OTG
  • [15:44:09] <DJWillis> koen: is TARGET_CC_ARCH += "${LDFLAGS}" still the GNU_HASH fix of choice? And for that matter, does it work with packages that have a _tools bundle created?
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  • [15:45:44] <rupeshgujare> a strange problem with MMC, randomly get error -"mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising MMC card" and kernel panics - " not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)"
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  • [15:46:23] <rupeshgujare> any guess whats going wrong ?
  • [15:50:22] <koen> DJWillis: TARGET_CC_ARCH += "${LDFLAGS}" is a hack to save you from patching the buildsystem
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  • [15:56:33] <hrw> rupeshgujare: kernel do not likes your card
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  • [15:59:22] <rupeshgujare> hrw: any suggestion to get rid of it ? or i have to use other manufacturer MMC card ?
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  • [16:09:35] <jkridner|work> koen: is there a youtube upload yet?
  • [16:11:37] <jkridner|work> rupeshgujare: interesting that someone is complaining about a similar error message relative to e-mmc on the mailing list, but seemingly at init and without a kernel panic.
  • [16:11:51] <jkridner|work> I started to look for the code that generates that error, but got distracted.
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  • [16:16:06] <rupeshgujare> jkridner|work: i keep on getting this error on my transcend MMC plus card
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  • [17:06:49] <sakoman_> koen, Crofton|work: is there a way to specify to opkg that it shouldn't run the initscript on installation for a package that contains an initscript?
  • [17:09:53] <koen> yes, don't run update-rc.d in postinst
  • [17:12:34] <sakoman_> koen: is ths documented somewhere - couldn't find it in the manual
  • [17:13:01] <sakoman_> or is it "the source code is the documentation" :-) As I am so fond of saying . . . :-)
  • [17:14:12] <ds2> morning
  • [17:14:37] <ds2> sakoman: did you enable the enhanced TT option in your builds?
  • [17:17:10] <sakoman_> ds2: not quite sure what you are asking! TT?
  • [17:19:15] <ds2> CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED
  • [17:19:19] <ds2> that option
  • [17:19:54] <sakoman_> # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED is not set
  • [17:20:05] <sakoman_> Is there a good reason to enable it?
  • [17:20:15] <ds2> Hmmmm I wonder if enabling that would fix some of the complaints you can't reproduce
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  • [17:20:39] <ds2> I don't a good reason for it but it solved my issues on the RevC EHCI port
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  • [17:21:01] <sakoman_> I can try, but I can't reproduce the issue on any of my machines :-(
  • [17:21:07] <cbrake> anyone having trouble with beagleboard builds in OE head? http://pastebin.ca/1402073
  • [17:21:11] <sakoman_> So I'll have to rely on others to test
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  • [17:21:51] <ds2> it may be related to the chip used in the hub
  • [17:22:22] <ds2> brands aren't useful and not everyone wants to id the hub chips =)
  • [17:22:35] <sakoman_> yup, I suspect something like that too
  • [17:23:03] <sakoman_> I'll enable it in my next build and if it doesn't cause me any issues will leave it that way
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  • [17:23:45] <ds2> I thought about mentioning that on thelist but no one there seems to be building their own images :(
  • [17:24:23] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: i'm still having issues with EHCI+hub+zd1211 (error -2 during firmware load), but when using the same stuff on the OTG port everything works perfectly
  • [17:25:26] <adj> MostAwesomeDude: so i'm quite ready to blame the ehci driver
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  • [17:25:42] <ds2> adj: tried tracing the code?
  • [17:25:55] <ds2> I think the zd1211 has debugs you can enable
  • [17:26:11] <cbrake> with ref to http://pastebin.ca/1402073, looks like virtual/kernel needs to be built first
  • [17:27:18] <adj> ds2: yeah it seems to have debug option, i'll try that. Let's see if that's beyond my capabilities or not
  • [17:28:14] <ds2> adj: which stick you are using, btw?
  • [17:28:32] <adj> a-link wl54usb
  • [17:30:21] <cbrake> should omap3-sgx-modules_1.3.13.1397.bb have a DEPENDS=virtual/kernel ?
  • [17:30:29] <ds2> know if that specific vendor/product pair code is in the driver ?
  • [17:31:58] <adj> let's see... yes, it is
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  • [17:34:45] <adj> error -2 during the firmware loading is confuses me quite alot. The firmware is there and when wlan stick (and hub) is plugged to the OTG port the firmware gets loaded
  • [17:35:06] <adj> error -2 is AFAIK "file not found"
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  • [17:37:03] <jkridner|work> koen: of the beaglecube
  • [17:39:34] <dirk2> jkridner|work: The link http://arago-project.org/git/people/jkridner/linux-beagle-bug.git at BeagleBoard/BugAdapter doesn't seem to work?
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  • [17:40:12] <jkridner|work> it isn't up yet. sorry, a bit preliminary in providing the link.
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  • [17:40:29] <dirk2> jkridner|work: ok
  • [17:40:57] <jkridner|work> just wanted to start recording some info on the project.
  • [17:41:16] <jkridner|work> Gerald has started design of the BeagleBoard Bug Adapter board.
  • [17:41:45] <DJWillis> ds2: is it just you that has found CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED helped? (interested in the context of the Pandora as we have all the same EHCI niggles as everyone else)
  • [17:43:14] <ds2> adj: trace hotplug or whatever you are using
  • [17:43:38] <ds2> DJWillis: think so...I was having issues with bluetooth and that fixed it
  • [17:44:44] <DJWillis> ds2: cool, i'll look into it then, like sakoman, if it works i'll leave it in ;-)
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  • [17:45:21] <ds2> DJWillis: do report back if it does work
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  • [17:45:31] <ds2> do report back regardless if it works or not
  • [17:46:13] <ds2> btw, since Quake3 was mentioned this morning... is the code for that in OE now?
  • [17:49:41] <koen> jkridner|work: what about the cube?
  • [17:49:52] <koen> ds2: not yet
  • [17:50:14] <koen> ds2: the quake3 opengl->es translator was done by a pandora developer
  • [17:50:26] <koen> ds2: and those guys don't buy into sharing source and stuff in general
  • [17:50:54] <koen> ds2: but DJWillis (the commander in chief of pandora OS) is sending me the needed bits so that they can go into OE
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  • [17:52:23] <koen> [denix]: no idea if you need extra acks, this is kind of an unusual situation :)
  • [17:54:27] <ds2> kone: nice, I want to try this one of those google screens things and maybe add a accelerometer input to it
  • [17:55:14] <koen> google screens?
  • [17:55:20] <ds2> the theory is people get nuasous (sp) from those first person games because they are not moving
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  • [17:55:22] <ds2> goggle
  • [17:55:36] <ds2> blah...brain damage from too much searching
  • [17:56:25] <ds2> Quake3/VR ;)
  • [17:57:43] * koen isn't a gamer
  • [17:58:13] <ds2> neither am I but this seems like a quickway to try out a VR thing
  • [17:59:43] <ds2> koen: thanks for the reply. I been meaning to get on the davinci list
  • [18:00:36] <DJWillis> koen: http://github.com/Cpasjuste/quake3_pandora_gles/tree/master is the Quake3 code we use (Cpasjuste also has the SDL with GLES support that we uplifted from the N800 on that GITHub account). I assume the other bit is NanoGL, The GL > GLes wrapper? I'll track that down.
  • [18:01:00] <MrBIOS> I'm using the angstrom demo image, how can I get it to a point where I can install additional packages? ipkg doesn't seem to be present, but opkg is (is there a difference?)
  • [18:01:08] <DJWillis> koen: as for commander in chief, I can't be trusted to shine my own shoes ;-)
  • [18:01:44] <DJWillis> MrBIOS: OPKG is the package man. IPKG went EOL well over a year ago.
  • [18:02:08] <koen> ipkg is in trademark hell as well
  • [18:04:27] <ds2> koen: Sharp fighting it?
  • [18:05:07] <koen> ds2: no, handhelds.org thinks it can claim copyright over every bit of software there have every hosted
  • [18:05:19] <ds2> Oh the HH mess
  • [18:05:25] <koen> ds2: kinda like sourceforge claiming copyright of all the projects
  • [18:05:33] <koen> ehm copyright/trademark
  • [18:05:41] <ds2> i know about the HH mess
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  • [18:10:53] <DJWillis> Does anyone even visit HH.org any more?
  • [18:11:12] <koen> hopefully not
  • [18:11:19] <koen> but they do host the mojo thing
  • [18:11:44] <koen> I kinda hoped hh.org would try to trademark ubuntu and get sued into the ground by canonical
  • [18:12:33] <DJWillis> Yep, I noticed that but as I understand it all that is geting folded back into Ubuntu and Canonical now that Canonical have deals with FreeScale etc.?
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  • [18:13:42] <hrw|gone> have a nice weekend
  • [18:14:47] <koen> DJWillis: with 'folded back' you mean 'completely ignored' :)
  • [18:15:27] <DJWillis> koen: did they, i.e. core Ubuntu, not do an ARMv6 native 9.04 RC a few weeks ago?
  • [18:16:00] <koen> it's not rocket science to install a buildd on an arm machine
  • [18:16:12] <koen> debian/arm did all the heavy lifting already
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  • [18:16:40] <DJWillis> koen: I agree 100%
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  • [18:17:02] <ds2> there isn't that much heavy lifting
  • [18:17:17] <koen> ds2: there is if you want to use mozilla stuff
  • [18:17:27] <koen> and hunt down code where arm == hardfpa
  • [18:17:48] <ds2> koen: fair enough... but I also have other opinions of mozilla so... ;)
  • [18:18:40] <koen> (cross)compiling is easy
  • [18:18:50] <koen> getting stuff to run is the hard bit
  • [18:18:59] <DJWillis> hehe
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  • [18:19:20] <ds2> I would actually say the opposite given the crap that configure and libtool does
  • [18:19:52] <ds2> most of the time the hw will tell you what is wrong
  • [18:20:04] <koen> fixing autofoo and libtool is a lot easier than reading through a codebase the size of mozilla to fix silly assumptions
  • [18:20:15] <koen> and mozilla is C done by C++ people, so...
  • [18:20:17] <mru> I managed to build a blackfin uclibc that caused ld to sigsegv
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  • [18:20:53] <ds2> that is a build side thing...
  • [18:21:23] <Crofton|work> imagine writing mozilla in verilog
  • [18:21:26] <ds2> a lot of the run time problems can be fixed with a big hammer...i.e. special kernel handlers to work around stuff
  • [18:21:44] <ds2> Crofton|work: imagine synthesising the results...
  • [18:21:46] <koen> you mean just running x86 stuff in qemu on your arm board?
  • [18:21:47] <Crofton|work> my head hurts
  • [18:21:51] <ds2> no
  • [18:22:02] <ds2> you can emulate stuff in the trap handlers
  • [18:22:05] <Crofton|work> everything can happen at once
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  • [18:22:21] <ds2> can but that's why you tied things to a clock
  • [18:22:37] <Crofton|work> but mulitple things happen in ||
  • [18:22:42] <ds2> What bugs me more is when the verilog doesn't all truely happen at once :(
  • [18:22:50] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [18:22:54] <Crofton|work> ah reality
  • [18:23:04] <ds2> like a ripple counter where it takes finite times to propagate even though...
  • [18:23:17] <ds2> yep. reality sucks. we need to replace it ;)
  • [18:23:18] <Crofton|work> ripple counters are evil
  • [18:23:43] <ds2> there are other places where the same issues hold
  • [18:24:38] <ds2> and to make all fun, these delays can depend on temperature and routing
  • [18:25:44] <koen> ds2: and cats walking on your keyboard during your coffee break
  • [18:26:18] <ds2> I like cats... so that behavior is tolerated
  • [18:26:49] <koen> I have guinnea pigs, those will eat your keyboard if you don't pay attention
  • [18:26:58] <ds2> hahah
  • [18:27:12] <ds2> bbiab
  • [18:27:15] <koen> they have already managed to remove keys from my laptop keyboard :)
  • [18:29:08] <koen> DJWillis: do you have recipes to build the quake stuff already?
  • [18:30:34] <DJWillis> koen: nope :(, all layed on top. I have stuck to stuf we can carry in stock images.
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  • [18:32:48] <koen> DJWillis: where did you say the nanogl stuff was?
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  • [18:51:21] <MrBIOS> DJWillis: thanks for the info, sorry I'm asking n00bish questions. Is there a reasonably decent angstrom getting started guide?
  • [18:52:30] <koen> put angstrom on sd, insert sd into beagle, insert power into beagle
  • [18:53:37] <pmeerw_> I'd appreciate alsa settings which allow recording?
  • [18:53:45] <likewise> ...where power is 5V
  • [18:53:48] <pmeerw_> how to configure the alsa mixer
  • [18:53:50] <pmeerw_> ?
  • [18:55:06] <s0likka> anyone installed Wine into angstrom?
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  • [18:56:24] <mru> there would be no point in doing that
  • [18:56:39] <s0likka> uhm?
  • [18:57:13] <mru> wine runs x86 windows apps on an x86 linux machine
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  • [18:57:25] <mru> or is there another wine?
  • [18:59:45] <MrBIOS> anyone ever run qemu+win2k or XP on the BeagleBoard? ;-)
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  • [19:00:44] <mru> that'll be a squeeze with memory if nothing else
  • [19:03:22] <MrBIOS> mru: mm, TinyXP/Win2K used to run more or less fine with 32MBytes RAM
  • [19:03:45] <MrBIOS> I'm sure it'd be shit-slow
  • [19:05:08] <koen> mru: actually wine is an implementation of the windows api, so if you have the source to windows apps you can run then against wine on arm
  • [19:05:31] <koen> mru: the "wine is not an emulator" is more that a stupid recursive acronym :)
  • [19:05:37] <koen> s/that/than/
  • [19:06:03] <koen> mru: but I agree that what most people mean with "wine" won't work on the beagle
  • [19:06:32] <mru> wine is indeed not an emulator
  • [19:06:37] <mru> because it runs the code natively
  • [19:06:54] <mru> and I doubt many windows apps would compile cleanly for arm
  • [19:07:13] <mru> wine/windows-apps are also closely tied to the PE format
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  • [19:08:25] <koen> yes
  • [19:08:41] <koen> and apps that would run on arm would use GAPI, which might not be convered in wine
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  • [19:24:30] <ZeZu> ffs, i didn't even know arm could be big endian .. what a pain
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  • [19:35:32] <mru> ;-)
  • [19:35:40] <mru> all new ones seem to be little endian
  • [19:35:54] <mru> on v7 instructions are always little endian
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  • [19:38:32] <ZeZu> this is some arm11
  • [19:38:50] <ZeZu> ARM 11 / QDSP-5
  • [19:39:00] <ZeZu> o MSM7201A;
  • [19:39:00] <ZeZu> o RTR6280;
  • [19:39:00] <ZeZu> o PM7540;
  • [19:39:48] <koen> note that depending on the ABI you choose your floats are big-endian or native-endian
  • [19:40:30] <mru> or mixed-endian
  • [19:40:35] <mru> yay
  • [19:40:52] <koen> mixendian the the case for LE arm with *fpa
  • [19:41:21] <koen> iirc vfp is native-endian
  • [19:41:24] <ZeZu> eew
  • [19:41:38] <ZeZu> its definitely emulation on this
  • [19:41:59] <ZeZu> i've got a "zeebo" devkit, and what a hunk of crap
  • [19:42:04] <koen> ZeZu: *fpa was the default for a looooooong time, so don't be suprised if apps start to break because they hardcode arm == big endian floats
  • [19:42:10] * dirk2 reads mru's and rmk's 'discussion' at linux-arm-kernel mailing list ;)
  • [19:42:25] <ZeZu> eh i wont have many worries there
  • [19:42:30] <ZeZu> its running brew rtos
  • [19:42:41] <ZeZu> and everything has to be well modified to run on it
  • [19:42:48] <ZeZu> no globals or static members
  • [19:42:56] <ZeZu> no fpu that doesn't go through a lib
  • [19:43:01] <ZeZu> no hw fpu anyhow
  • [19:43:09] * ZeZu dies
  • [19:43:14] <koen> dirk2: the stale prediction?
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  • [20:02:12] <koen> mru: heh, rmk thinks you an arm employee :)
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  • [20:49:18] <iscape> are there any news about buffer cards for the raw lcd interface?
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  • [20:52:20] <koen> cute: http://abstrusegoose.com/132
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  • [21:59:55] <mani> hello this is a test
  • [22:00:36] <mtc> mani: k
  • [22:01:18] <mtc> anyone working on getting the Mer Project on the beagleboard?
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  • [22:02:51] <ds2> whois iscape
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  • [22:03:04] <ds2> hmmm
  • [22:03:51] <s0likka> iscape, what kinda interface you're looking into?
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  • [22:05:01] <mani> hi, I'm looking for datasheet of omap3530? on ti-web can not find anything?
  • [22:05:22] <ds2> in theory, there should be hundreds of those popping up any time soon
  • [22:05:54] <s0likka> mani: http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/omap3530
  • [22:06:33] <iscape> s0likka: an interface between an LCD panel and the raw lcd interface on the revC board
  • [22:06:58] <ds2> iscape: I would offer to help but I noticed you are in EU land
  • [22:07:08] <iscape> i am in eu land
  • [22:07:26] <ds2> I have a working one but I didn't bother with ROHS so...
  • [22:07:29] <s0likka> Well if you're panel is LVDS type, TIs SN75LVDS83B would work but it's not available yet
  • [22:07:43] <s0likka> Eu land... For fuck sake...
  • [22:08:07] <iscape> i found some panels on an ebay shop
  • [22:08:21] <iscape> stores.shop.ebay.com/VitroLight-LCD-Module-Bay__W0QQ_armrsZ1
  • [22:08:24] <s0likka> laptop panel => LVDS
  • [22:08:30] <iscape> am not affiliated with them
  • [22:08:35] <ds2> it isn't the price of the panel, it is how easy you can get data for them
  • [22:08:58] <iscape> they have rgb panels
  • [22:09:18] <iscape> and for many are the data sheets on the web, i.e. voltage and pin layout
  • [22:09:19] <s0likka> iscape, i recommend you to check those panels datasheets :)
  • [22:09:28] <s0likka> Also SN75LVDS83s
  • [22:09:47] <iscape> i am not a hardware dev
  • [22:10:12] <iscape> i can solder smd but thats it
  • [22:10:18] <ds2> iscape: what size LCD do you want?
  • [22:10:23] <s0likka> well choose which panel you're goin to use...
  • [22:10:31] <s0likka> And lets see what we can get u :P
  • [22:10:39] <iscape> dunno, 5-8" would be nice
  • [22:10:45] <ds2> I know of some people who are making a board but because each LCD uses adifferent connector...
  • [22:10:46] <iscape> for a portable device
  • [22:10:55] <mani> ich suche datasheet oder hardware manual with ALL register-description, this is http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/omap3530 very small
  • [22:11:00] <ds2> iscape: when do you need it?
  • [22:11:07] <iscape> yesterday ;)
  • [22:11:16] <iscape> currently for my own fun
  • [22:11:23] <iscape> i am the dev of tangogps
  • [22:11:31] <ds2> well, in that case... I can custom engineer one. ready tomorrow... just pay for all the expedite ;) hehehe
  • [22:11:32] <iscape> would just be a good fit
  • [22:12:10] <iscape> i think there would be many more people interested
  • [22:12:29] <s0likka> mani nice gerlish :D
  • [22:13:16] <ds2> if it wasn't for rohs...
  • [22:13:30] <iscape> what would be the price tag?
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  • [22:13:47] <s0likka> http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html mani have look at this page... There's atleast 50 different datasheets...
  • [22:14:25] * s0likka waits for LVDS83Bs release untill then my project is under ice
  • [22:15:02] <ds2> the price tag would be the EU fine for non RoHS compliance + cost + expenses to defend ;)
  • [22:15:19] <ds2> thank your EMP's
  • [22:15:40] <iscape> 8~)
  • [22:15:42] <s0likka> but gn8 everyone, it's 1:15am here :)
  • [22:15:51] <ds2> later s0likka
  • [22:15:57] <iscape> night s0likka
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  • [22:16:30] <iscape> gerald coley wrote the recipe on the list: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/9f5682f31c0230fc
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  • [22:19:38] <iscape> ds2: in any case I am really interested in getting a small lcd onto the beagle
  • [22:20:08] <mani> thank s0likka, I found what I was looking for OMAP35x Technical Reference Manual with 40Meg :-)
  • [22:20:26] <ds2> iscape: I might be able to find you one... just need to check to see if this other one is RoHS
  • [22:20:49] <iscape> ds2: you are in the US?
  • [22:20:52] <ds2> iscape: it is all a RoHS problem... RoHS boards don't keep as well
  • [22:20:55] <ds2> iscape: yep
  • [22:21:05] <ds2> and RoHS can be much less reliable
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  • [22:22:54] <iscape> I have little experience with RoHS. Does the soldering break?
  • [22:23:47] <ds2> iscape: it can because for some reason the Tin can form brittle crystals ('whiskers') that can break or short out
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  • [22:24:17] <ds2> if RoHS was reliable, they would insist the defense folks use it but they are exempted
  • [22:25:50] <iscape> ds2: what would your costs roughly be?
  • [22:26:39] <ds2> iscape: costs for?
  • [22:27:05] <iscape> a board to connect a LCD to the beagle via the raw LCD interface
  • [22:28:08] <iscape> aren't there a lot more people who would like to have a small LCD?
  • [22:28:12] <ds2> depends on howmany
  • [22:28:40] <ds2> donno... I am making a few and seeing if anyone is interested
  • [22:29:08] <ds2> hoping to have everything soon
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  • [22:46:34] <Ragha> I am seeing errors while building OE for beagleboard
  • [22:47:42] <Ragha> fetching u-boot has failed, URL is broken
  • [22:47:50] <Ragha> anybody seen this issue?
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  • [23:46:30] <ssvb> hello, is it normal that USR0 LED is constantly blinking while beagleboard is working?
  • [23:47:16] <geckosenator> yes
  • [23:47:29] <geckosenator> one led is heartbeat
  • [23:47:44] <geckosenator> it makes it easy to see when it dies
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  • [23:51:04] <ds2> ssvb: with Angstrom, yep
  • [23:52:01] <ssvb> ok, thanks, I'm indeed still using kernel from Angstrom
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