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  • [04:22:55] <emeb_mac> Cool! Beagle hooked to my 32" LCD TV via HDMI cable. Chameleon Man's running on my screen under sakoman's Angstrom build.
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  • [04:58:48] <MrBIOS-> sup, *bitches*?
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  • [06:02:58] <mib_v97chc> Hi Newbie here....
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  • [06:08:51] <mib_muvh3h> Does the beagle board have japanese manuals ?
  • [06:09:14] <mib_muvh3h> Could you pls help me with the information, please
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  • [06:32:03] <mib_muvh3h> Newbie question "Can itron be ported to beagle board" ?
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  • [07:42:49] <recalcati> morning
  • [07:43:13] <recalcati> today r25 kernel doesn't like hd720
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  • [10:26:43] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [10:28:41] <ldesnogu_> hi jkridner
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  • [10:29:01] <koen> hey jkridner
  • [10:29:06] <jkridner> howdy ldesnogu_, koen.
  • [10:29:29] <methril|work> good morning
  • [10:29:45] <jkridner> nice to meet you methril|work.
  • [10:38:03] <methril|work> jkridner: nice to meet you too
  • [10:38:20] <methril|work> jkridner: i see u in u-boot & other beagle channels :)
  • [10:38:35] <jkridner> yeah, but this is the one I pay the most attention to.
  • [10:45:49] <hychen> does anyone compile the ti wirelss module which in android repositry with android-beagleboard kernel suceesful?
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  • [10:52:56] <rupeshgujare> hychen: what r u trying to do ?
  • [10:55:48] <hychen> rupeshgujare: i tring to compile a ti wirelss driver with android-beagleboard kernel
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  • [10:57:53] <hychen> rupeshgujare: I found the ti wireless driver in http://android.git.kernel.org/
  • [10:58:11] <hychen> rupeshgujare: I wana use it in android-beagleboard kernel
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  • [11:12:17] <jkridner|work> all, I'm still looking for 1 more judge to help determine who gets the give-away boards. I will send out the announcement this week on the mailing list on what was discussed at the ESC user group meeting.
  • [11:13:38] <jkridner|work> I'm also thinking about just removing RobertK, since he didn't even vote last time.
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  • [11:25:39] <arne-unicap> jkridner: if there are giveaway boards, I should get a giveaway board because otherwise I now need to buy a C2 board just to see if the USB host port does not suck as much as the OTG port ;-)
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  • [11:28:37] <arne-unicap> or someone can definately tells me that the host port does not suck and is able to give a decent performance ^^
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  • [11:43:59] <koen> XorA: good morning!
  • [11:44:05] <jkridner|work> arne-unicap: :) The OTG port performance can be heavily impacted by the system configuration.
  • [11:44:39] <jkridner|work> you need to optimize the input buffers and think about the interrupt load on the system.
  • [11:45:17] <arne-unicap> if I get it right, the OTG performance is limited because there are currently issues with RX DMA
  • [11:46:42] <koen> dma issues depend on kernel drivers and ES revisions
  • [11:47:31] <arne-unicap> I am using 2.8.29 git
  • [11:47:53] <arne-unicap> and looked for patches but found nothing that seemed to improve the performance for BULK_IN
  • [11:48:43] <arne-unicap> would the performance for the host port be better for BULK_IN transactions?
  • [11:49:21] <koen> arne-unicap: tried the angstrom .29 kernel?
  • [11:49:47] <koen> arne-unicap: try http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/uImage-2.6.29-r23+gitr58cf2f1425abfd3a449f9fe985e48be2d2555022-beagleboard.bin
  • [11:49:53] <arne-unicap> if this is what builds with linux-omap-2.6.29 then yes
  • [11:49:56] <Crofton|work> arne-unicap, ehci?
  • [11:49:59] <koen> that has all the latest musb patches applied
  • [11:50:13] <arne-unicap> I'll give it a try
  • [11:50:20] <Crofton|work> I can run a usrp at nearly full speed on ehci
  • [11:50:26] <arne-unicap> do you have the modules for it also somewhere?
  • [11:50:53] <arne-unicap> Crofton: well, this is something I was hope to hear :-)
  • [11:51:30] <arne-unicap> so I guess I go and order a C2 board at digikey
  • [11:52:14] <arne-unicap> I am also wondering if it would be possible to write to an SD Card without using 100% CPU
  • [11:52:20] <Crofton|work> stupid question ...
  • [11:52:24] <arne-unicap> is this a driver issue?
  • [11:52:25] <koen> arne-unicap: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/modules-2.6.29-r23+gitr58cf2f1425abfd3a449f9fe985e48be2d2555022-beagleboard.tgz
  • [11:52:33] <Crofton|work> Is ANdrois a specific kernel + java runtime?
  • [11:52:59] <arne-unicap> uhm, why is it stupid, am I missing something?
  • [11:52:59] <koen> Crofton|work: kernel + android patches + custom userspace
  • [11:53:21] <Crofton|work> so we could build Android in OE
  • [11:53:36] <koen> Crofton|work: it's 'linux' in the sense that's it's using the kernel, userspace is not what you know and expect :)
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  • [11:54:21] <Crofton|work> it seems like it would be useful to build Androis with OE from an OE marketing point of view
  • [11:54:34] <Crofton|work> grrr, need coffee
  • [12:02:02] <jkridner|work> Crofton|work: I'm very interested in bids on putting Android into OE.
  • [12:02:22] <jkridner|work> been just talking to a small handful of people about that so far.
  • [12:04:32] <Crofton|work> cool
  • [12:04:45] <Crofton|work> there was an email on the gumstix that made me think of it
  • [12:05:25] <Crofton|work> people keep talking about Android, so I need to figure out what it is :)
  • [12:07:48] <koen> it's hype
  • [12:08:56] <Crofton|work> you know that, and I know that :)
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  • [12:09:12] <Crofton|work> but, it is google hype, which makes it important hype
  • [12:13:04] <jkridner|work> indeed. it is sell chips hype. :)
  • [12:13:18] <jkridner|work> Java, but cooler.
  • [12:13:58] <Crofton|work> rofl
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  • [12:14:22] <Crofton|work> koen and are are discussin how we do not understand the android excitement
  • [12:14:27] <jkridner|work> rupeshgujare: have you thought about making an OE recipe for your Beagle Android patches?
  • [12:14:33] <Crofton|work> you just hit the nail on the head
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  • [12:14:36] <Crofton|work> "sells"
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  • [12:19:10] <rupeshgujare> jkridner|work: nop... not till now.. but we are planning to release android build for beagle similar to omapzoom
  • [12:20:02] <jkridner|work> you mean with a clean manifest/repo setup? that's good.
  • [12:20:36] <jkridner|work> I think once you are under repo, adding OE would be good, and using the gstreamer_ti components.
  • [12:20:40] <rupeshgujare> yes thats right..
  • [12:21:02] <jkridner|work> I think you also know about http://groups.google.com/group/prajnashi
  • [12:21:59] <rupeshgujare> no. need to join this group .
  • [12:22:56] <rupeshgujare> jkridner|work: can I know what do this group involved with ?
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  • [12:23:15] <jkridner|work> putting GStreamer into Android.
  • [12:23:42] <jkridner|work> adding a surfaceflingersink, replacing the media player implementation, etc.
  • [12:25:05] <rupeshgujare> ok.. will look into it.. our first step is to release initial working build for beagle-android ... then will move on to add more features into it
  • [12:25:10] * koen thinks that's quite ironic, replacing android components with existing, proven solutions
  • [12:28:28] <jkridner|work> :) not really ironic. the first thing you likely note about android is that they throw out the GNU C library.
  • [12:28:55] <koen> throw out everything minus the kernel
  • [12:29:05] <jkridner|work> right.
  • [12:29:38] <jkridner|work> would be nice for those of us who actually like the whole GNU user-space world to be able to use Android simply as a VM.
  • [12:34:28] * jkridner|work shuts down to head into the office.
  • [12:34:30] <koen> right
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  • [12:46:20] <Crofton|work> what interests me about Android is it provides a way for us to show how flexible OE is
  • [12:47:45] <XorA> android building in OE would be cool
  • [12:48:14] <XorA> and just think how quickly we could get a new board up and running, much faster than the android dudes
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  • [12:53:04] <eFfeM> hi
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  • [12:55:14] <Crofton|work> XorA, exactly
  • [12:55:33] <Crofton|work> and it would create job opportunities for OE devs
  • [12:55:41] <XorA> hehe thats always good
  • [12:56:44] <eFfeM> Crofton you saw my msg that wxwidgets compiles ?
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  • [12:59:36] <amr> i compiled the kernel with enabling v4l.
  • [13:00:07] <amr> but how to get /dev/video after plugging usb-camera
  • [13:00:18] <amr> means how to mount
  • [13:00:22] <amr> usb-camera
  • [13:01:45] <eFfeM> amr, look at udev
  • [13:01:58] <eFfeM> here is what I did for a photo camera: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard/James#Grabbing_photos_from_a_PTP_enabled_camera
  • [13:05:52] <amr> i wrote a simple app using v4l interface
  • [13:06:17] <amr> the app needs the camera should mounted at /dev/video0
  • [13:06:39] <amr> i want to mount the camera as /dev/video
  • [13:06:42] <amr> how can i do
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  • [13:19:01] <eFfeM> like in the page I mentioned but you need to add a rule that matches the vendor and product id of your cam and make a script that if needed loads the modules or creates the device
  • [13:19:37] <eFfeM> thinking of it, probably if you load the modules and do a depmod -a, /dev/video will appear automatically if you insert the cam
  • [13:19:53] <eFfeM> google around, plenty of info on this, you're not the first who wants this
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  • [15:41:09] * Topic is 'Welcome to #beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board | http://beagleboard.org | For Beagle search tools, go to #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, not here | Discussion is logged at http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs | Please read http://beagleboard.org/support/faq then ask your question'
  • [15:41:09] * Set by eFfeM on Fri Apr 03 01:09:07 CDT 2009
  • [15:41:26] * koen WTFs at "lirc port"
  • [15:41:35] <koen> opkg install lirc ; vi /etc/lirc.conf
  • [15:42:15] <eFfeM> lol, koen, you did not see that before ?
  • [15:42:48] <koen> nope
  • [15:43:04] <eFfeM> actually there is an issue with lirc, building all variants does not work, so now it only has two modules in the feed
  • [15:43:20] <eFfeM> including MCE which includes all RC5 based remote
  • [15:43:22] <eFfeM> s
  • [15:43:47] <eFfeM> apparently the fact taht you cannot build all is a known issue with lirc
  • [15:43:53] <mru> imo fixing buildsystem bugs is not a proper contest entry
  • [15:44:57] <dirk2> mru: you could add a contest entry 'finding compiler bugs' ;)
  • [15:45:57] <mru> dirk2: I'm chasing another one right now
  • [15:46:14] <mru> and arm engineers are working on one
  • [15:46:35] <dirk2> mru: I read somewhere "we are hoping for 2009q1" (?)
  • [15:46:52] <mru> I still haven't tried that one
  • [15:46:55] * koen looks at the 455MiB big 2009q1 tarballs in his disk
  • [15:47:41] <mru> lite version seems still not out
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  • [15:50:10] <dirk2> mru: http://www.codesourcery.com/archives/arm-gnu-discuss/msg02586.html
  • [15:51:15] <koen> dirk2: you can download the eval version already
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  • [15:51:38] <armin76> hi
  • [15:51:44] <dirk2> armin76: hi
  • [15:52:39] <mib_0b3ql8> are there are documentation to get dsplink gstreamer ti working
  • [15:53:21] <dirk2> koen, mru: I sent armin76 a short note that we talked about http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/contest#Gentoo_Linux_ARMv7_support
  • [15:54:26] <armin76> wrt what koen said, we were never offered resources for building stages and/or packages by those ppl who have gentoo working on armv7
  • [15:54:50] <armin76> this is intended as official gentoo, not user made
  • [15:55:29] <mru> armin76: who are "we"?
  • [15:55:36] <armin76> gentoo
  • [15:55:38] <mru> and what does "official gentoo" mean?
  • [15:56:09] <armin76> official stages, official packages, whatever we publish is tested by us
  • [15:56:16] <mru> armin76: what kind of resources would you need?
  • [15:56:21] <mru> any fast PC will do
  • [15:56:23] <armin76> or at least built by us
  • [15:56:45] <mru> armin76: didn't know you were a gentoo dev
  • [15:56:54] <armin76> mru: you fail at whois :)
  • [15:57:11] <mru> no, I'm just too lazy
  • [15:57:46] <armin76> mru: as for resources, i understand an armv7 board for building stuff
  • [15:57:55] <armin76> i'm kinda anti-crosscompile
  • [15:57:58] <mru> why?
  • [15:58:08] <mru> I cross-compile everything
  • [15:58:13] <mru> much faster
  • [15:58:14] <armin76> because thats solar's intereset
  • [15:58:20] <armin76> interest*
  • [15:58:28] <armin76> i hate it :P
  • [15:58:34] <mru> building stuff on an arm board is painful
  • [15:59:05] <armin76> well, gentoo is about choices :)
  • [15:59:10] <mru> sure
  • [15:59:22] <mru> I imagine you'd have less issues with a native build
  • [15:59:34] <mru> just have to wait forever
  • [16:00:01] <armin76> well, arm processors are getting faster :)
  • [16:00:30] <mru> oh yes
  • [16:00:56] <mru> but the beagle board is still the fastest you can get your hands on easily
  • [16:01:07] <mru> and that's 600MHz 256MB
  • [16:01:26] <mru> compare that to a quad core2 or something...
  • [16:01:38] <Crofton|work> x86 will always be way faster, because they are not constrained by power
  • [16:02:14] <mru> my core2 is roughly 20x faster than the beagle
  • [16:03:09] <mru> 3x faster per clock cycle
  • [16:03:38] <ldesnogu_> you have a low frequency core2 :-)
  • [16:03:43] <mru> 2.66
  • [16:03:52] <armin76> mru: not sure if you saw my table: http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/buildtimes.xml
  • [16:03:57] <ldesnogu_> so your CPU is 30 times faster :)
  • [16:03:59] <mru> the beagle is 4x faster per Watt
  • [16:04:05] <ldesnogu_> heh
  • [16:04:20] <ldesnogu_> not 30 but 24 sorry
  • [16:05:00] <ldesnogu_> anyway with 256 MB chances are very high that the beast will start trying to swap compiling some big thing
  • [16:05:56] <mru> my internet connection will drop any moment... at the airport
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  • [16:06:36] <mru> armin76: those build times are painful
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  • [16:07:36] <armin76> mru: i have patience :)
  • [16:07:44] <armin76> ever tried superh? :D
  • [16:07:49] <mru> armin76: yes
  • [16:08:02] <armin76> its worse
  • [16:08:06] <mru> I'm sure
  • [16:08:17] <mru> it's good at floating point though
  • [16:08:31] <mru> if you don't need accuracy
  • [16:09:35] <mru> I'm getting an i7 tomorrow...
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  • [16:09:48] * mru lacks patience
  • [16:10:41] <arne_foo> koen: I am trying your kernel but I am unable to set the video resolution :-/ shouldn't the following cmdline be right?
  • [16:10:42] <arne_foo> Kernel command line: console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait omapfb.video_mode=1280x720MR-24@60
  • [16:10:53] <Crofton|work> mru reminded Crofton to check the ups package tracking to see if they delivered his stuff
  • [16:11:43] <mru> haha, this internet connection is nice
  • [16:11:56] <mru> tcp connections stay open even after the time is up
  • [16:12:29] <armin76> mru: i have an sh7785lcr, sh4a, 600mhz, 128mb ram, the faster thing available, the qnap on my table beats it :)
  • [16:12:47] <mru> armin76: what board is that?
  • [16:13:05] <armin76> an sh board
  • [16:13:13] <mru> of course
  • [16:13:32] <mru> but who makes it? renesas?
  • [16:14:04] <mru> time to go
  • [16:14:06] <armin76> yup
  • [16:14:08] <armin76> bye
  • [16:14:42] <mib_0b3ql8> i have downloaded bios_5_33_02 and xdctools to /OE/TI as mentioned in ti-paths.inc, from where i can download dsp toolchain
  • [16:14:50] <koen> arne_foo: omapfb.mode=
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  • [16:17:38] <arne_foo> koen: still starting with 640x480 :-(
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  • [16:30:30] <arne_foo> hmm, I just can not find a way to set the video mode
  • [16:30:39] <arne_foo> it always stays @640x480 :-(
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  • [16:37:01] <koen> arne_foo: http://pastebin.com/m20c5e702
  • [16:37:25] <koen> 'dvi' should be the default display
  • [16:37:36] <koen> omapfb.mode=dvi:800x400MR-24@60
  • [16:40:05] <arne_foo> yay, that seems to work
  • [16:40:43] <arne_foo> koen: thanks so much. however this seems to differ from the docs I read so far, so sorry for the stupid questions ;-)
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  • [16:53:32] <uberfry> hello there everybody
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  • [16:54:07] <uberfry> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9684/kif0397.jpg <= is this feasible?
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  • [16:58:10] <koen> arne_foo: the dss2 interface change a lot :)
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  • [17:03:13] <arne_foo> uberfry: why using the SD interface??
  • [17:03:25] <arne_foo> can't you just use USB?
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  • [17:15:40] <koen> or GPMC?
  • [17:17:06] <mib_0b3ql8> i have compiled gstreamer-ti, how do i test it
  • [17:18:51] <__alanc__> mib_0b3ql8 - u should prob ask that on #gst_ti
  • [17:20:29] <mib_0b3ql8> alanc: okay
  • [17:21:59] <uberfry> arne_foo: I think it's the least work, don't you think?
  • [17:22:08] <uberfry> GPMC?
  • [17:22:10] <uberfry> what's that?
  • [17:23:19] <uberfry> koen: can you link me to gmpc please?
  • [17:25:54] <Crofton|work> gpmc is not brought out on the beagle
  • [17:25:58] <Crofton|work> it is on the overo
  • [17:27:05] <uberfry> ahhhhh you mean dma access?
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  • [17:48:00] <solar> koen/mru: I really don't have time to chat now, But did want to comment on your notes. It's more about official support than NIH or any of that. We want to get v7a into our offical offerings, which include more than just cross-compiles.
  • [17:48:28] <ds2> ARRRRRRRG
  • [17:58:35] <uberfry> ds2: are you raging?
  • [17:58:48] <uberfry> btw, can someone here please make a benchmark of sd card?
  • [17:58:53] <ds2> uberfry: yeah... mechanical issues on the BB
  • [17:59:02] <uberfry> I see, what's wrong?
  • [17:59:33] <ds2> the LCD connector 0.050 headers which is lower then the 0.1 headers...this leads to an "interesting" mechanical problem
  • [17:59:49] <uberfry> errrrrrrr there's an lcd connector?!
  • [18:00:08] <ds2> specifically - your board cannot be higher then about 0.9 or your'll hit the JTAG connector...it can't go down cuz it'll hit the svideo connector
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  • [18:00:12] <ds2> uberfry: RevC
  • [18:00:33] <uberfry> oh cool
  • [18:00:34] <ds2> I seriously need a 3D model
  • [18:00:47] <uberfry> why not extend the connector?
  • [18:01:07] <ds2> looks like that's what I'll have to do
  • [18:01:22] <ds2> just irritating to have to do that
  • [18:01:24] <uberfry> I see, well, good luck ;)
  • [18:01:26] <uberfry> yes
  • [18:01:44] <uberfry> but how do you even extend that? need to solder all leads?
  • [18:02:01] <ds2> I'll build 2 small PCBs and link them
  • [18:02:06] <uberfry> I see
  • [18:02:22] <ds2> the clearance issue is on the order of 0.0625 so the other way is just stack them
  • [18:02:48] <ds2> unfortunately, this isn't going to be easy either as there isn't room between the connectors to clear a SMT mount 0.050 pitch female header
  • [18:03:07] <uberfry> :(
  • [18:03:16] <uberfry> hope the one I get won't be too hard to interface to a psp lcd
  • [18:03:25] <uberfry> otherwise I'd be really pissed
  • [18:03:37] <ds2> uberfry: I have a working board for the PSP LCD; I am just trying to get rid of the cable harness on my current design
  • [18:04:11] <uberfry> oic
  • [18:04:38] <ds2> there is another way of doing it if you did NOT need to do a tight packing and are willing to risk breaking things
  • [18:04:47] <ds2> I need the tight packing
  • [18:04:53] <uberfry> why?
  • [18:05:00] <ds2> cuz I am putting it in a case
  • [18:05:09] <uberfry> you want to make a pda or something? ;)
  • [18:05:31] <koen> ds2: try asking Bill from specialcomp
  • [18:05:42] <ds2> uberfry: I _MADE_ a PDA
  • [18:05:51] <koen> ds2: he has revB 3d models, I suspect he was revC ones as well
  • [18:05:55] <uberfry> oh ;)
  • [18:06:33] <ds2> uberfry: I would paste the link but I suspect if I did that, the channel will start lighting their torches and come after me them
  • [18:06:56] <koen> it's on the beagle homepage
  • [18:06:57] <uberfry> lol :)
  • [18:07:02] <ds2> wtf
  • [18:07:06] <uberfry> ds2: so pm me pls ;)
  • [18:07:32] <koen> uberfry: beagleboard.org -> latest news -> "ARM Cortex-A8 MID debuts"
  • [18:07:47] <uberfry> thanks ;)
  • [18:08:08] <koen> uberfry: I get approx 15Mbyte/s from my SD cards
  • [18:08:16] <koen> on beagleboard
  • [18:08:18] <uberfry> hmmm
  • [18:08:22] <uberfry> what kind of card?
  • [18:08:35] <koen> sandisk OMG 2000
  • [18:08:44] <koen> it says "15MB/s" in the label
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  • [18:09:02] <uberfry> omg, I think I might be fucked
  • [18:09:04] <uberfry> I need 22MB/s
  • [18:09:10] <ds2> koen: the models or ?
  • [18:09:56] <koen> ds2: the link to to mid
  • [18:10:26] <koen> s/to/your/ somewhere
  • [18:18:25] <ds2> ah
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  • [18:19:00] <ds2> I really need to keep an eye on this before I get a nasty gram about bandwidth usage :/ don't mind it, just want to be prepared
  • [18:20:02] <ds2> uberfry: have you purchased the LCD already?
  • [18:20:37] <uberfry> not yet
  • [18:21:01] <uberfry> I don't even have my beagleboard yet
  • [18:21:08] <uberfry> should get it as soon as school starts again
  • [18:22:02] <ds2> ah
  • [18:23:16] <ds2> koen: bb.org?
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  • [18:25:44] <brater36> hey - need some help getting the uart on the expansion header to work through angstrom linux
  • [18:25:54] <brater36> anyone have any experience doing this?
  • [18:26:14] <ds2> brater36: the software should just work.
  • [18:26:44] <brater36> using the demo image?
  • [18:27:10] <brater36> i habent tried the demo image yet so
  • [18:27:12] <ds2> brater36: I believe so.
  • [18:27:22] <brater36> do you know what tty it is mapped to?
  • [18:27:26] <ds2> unless Angstrom patches the L-O kerenl to break it ;)
  • [18:27:32] <ds2> ttyS1
  • [18:27:40] <brater36> great, ill try it soon
  • [18:27:43] <ds2> stock L-O just works assuming you have the U-boot to enable it
  • [18:27:45] <brater36> thank yo
  • [18:27:54] <brater36> whats L-O?
  • [18:28:12] <ds2> brater36: check your U-boot to make sure the UART2 is enabled...
  • [18:28:15] <ds2> oops, let me clarify
  • [18:28:30] <ds2> Angstrom Linux side should just work; the Angstrom U-boot may or may not depending on the mux settings
  • [18:28:44] <ds2> L-O == Linux OMAP git tree
  • [18:28:50] <brater36> ahh ok
  • [18:29:14] <brater36> if the L-O uboot dosent work how would I fix that
  • [18:29:30] <ds2> change 3 lines in there and rebuild it
  • [18:29:47] <ds2> note - RevC vs RevB requires different lines to be changed!
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  • [18:30:26] <brater36> ok thanks, ill try it soon and hopefully itll work
  • [18:30:50] <ds2> sorry to be that general... I don't use Angstrom... I go straight to the sources
  • [18:31:35] <nx0> anyone know why console doesn't show up on ttyS2 on revC and it does on revB using 2.6.28-omap1 kernel and even the Angstrom kernel. Does the console line need to change for bootarg?
  • [18:34:37] <adj> nx0: have you checked that both boards use same bootargs?
  • [18:36:18] <nx0> adj: yep.. used the same args on both boards =).. revC seem to display all the boot messages on my monitor
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  • [18:38:58] <ds2> nx0: what is bootargs set to?
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  • [18:39:18] <ds2> and do you have an override setup in the SD card, i.e. like with the ESC image
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  • [18:40:20] <nx0> ds2: this is what i have it set: console=ttyS2,115200n8 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rootdelay=2
  • [18:40:46] <nx0> is there something new that needs to be added for revC?
  • [18:44:52] <ds2> nx0: nope... what does the kernel think the bootargs are?
  • [18:45:09] <ds2> nx0: after boot up, do "cat /proc/cmdline" at a shell
  • [18:45:18] <ds2> see if they match what you think bootargs is
  • [18:47:25] <ds2> btw, if you run a website - watch out for the baidu.com (search engine from .cn), they do not honor robots.txt
  • [18:47:32] <nx0> ds2: one sec let me try ^^
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  • [19:12:26] <nx0> ds2: silly me i had a typo =( thanks for the tip
  • [19:13:55] <ds2> nx0: glad you found it
  • [19:16:31] <nx0> ds2: =).. Excited to try the new thingies on revC. Just started playing with the revC ehci port.
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  • [19:19:14] <ds2> Any comments/opinions on proposing a session at LPC to talk about how to get MUSB into shape?
  • [19:20:04] <Russ> ds2: have you tried 2.6.30?
  • [19:20:24] <ds2> Russ: no, not yet... what's the surprise?
  • [19:21:33] <Russ> I think there have been several musb patches going in
  • [19:21:38] <koen> .30 is out already?
  • [19:21:48] <Russ> no, I mean the git tree
  • [19:22:10] <ds2> Russ: I haven't looked at them but i am guessing they were the patches from Sergei that got queue?
  • [19:22:23] * koen is sticking with the .29 branch from tony this week
  • [19:22:39] <koen> with the metric ton of musb patches Russ gave me :)
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  • [19:22:58] <nx0> does otg and ehci work on the 2.6.28-omap1 kernel on revC of the bb?
  • [19:23:03] <electricgirl_907> what do i do if my beagleboard doesn't do anything when it is supposed to be autobooting?
  • [19:23:36] * koen suspects sergeis musb patches would go upstream a lot faster if he didn't try to fit 5 chpaters of war&peace in the commit message
  • [19:23:49] <koen> nx0: if you use the angstrom kernel, yes
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  • [19:26:38] <electricgirl_907> what do i do if my beagleboard doesn't do anything when it is supposed to be autobooting?
  • [19:26:47] <ali_as> Define does nothing.
  • [19:27:48] <electricgirl_907> on HyperTerminal, after the countdown to stop autoboot goes uninterrupted, nothing happens. no scrolling txt on either the terminal or the monitor
  • [19:27:49] <ali_as> You should have lights, you should see things on the serial port, from X-loader at the least.
  • [19:28:20] <ali_as> Ok, what are you trying to boot?
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  • [19:29:28] <ali_as> As supplied nothing is on the board but X-Loader and u-boot.
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  • [19:30:27] <electricgirl_907> so after preparing a demo on an sd card, what steps would i need to take to be able to interact with that SD card (flashing or booting from the SD card)
  • [19:31:50] <ali_as> For the angstrom demo?
  • [19:32:15] <electricgirl_907> yes
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  • [19:32:44] <ali_as> If you follow the wiki you make 2 partitions in linux and set the fat32 one bootable.
  • [19:33:53] <ali_as> You change the boot settings on the beagle, then it just worked for me.
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  • [19:34:33] <ali_as> Having said that it took me several hours and I did backups of the SD card before booting.
  • [19:34:40] <nx0> koen: oh so for the moment there is no hope for the l-o tree for working ehci /otg? or is it fix at some point?
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  • [19:36:26] <electricgirl_907> are there instructions for how to change the boot settings on the beagleboard anywhere?
  • [19:36:47] <ali_as> Yes all on the wiki, I'll find a link.
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  • [19:38:19] <ali_as> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [19:39:07] <electricgirl_907> Thank you sooo much!!!
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  • [19:42:02] <mib_8ogs44> I'm trying to obtain a copy of the source code that was used to build the RevCValidation image. Is it available?
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  • [20:09:28] <nx0> mib_8ogs44: let me know if you find it =)
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  • [20:18:48] <kona> hey - im getting an error "Preferred version git of u-boot not avilable (for item u-boot): when I try to do bitbake x11-image
  • [20:19:10] <kona> anyone know how to fix this, I want to compile my own uImage
  • [20:19:33] <koen> kona: why does that need fixing?
  • [20:20:07] <kona> idk I just assumed it was bad lol
  • [20:20:15] <kona> everythign compiles from then on so
  • [20:20:24] <koen> assumption is the mother of all fuckups
  • [20:20:35] <kona> yeah
  • [20:20:46] <Crofton|work> koen, it needs fixing so people stop bothering us about it :)
  • [20:21:10] * Crofton|work curses ups for being "late"
  • [20:21:18] <kona> anyway, I want to change some of the mux settings, when I do bitbak x11-image will that rebuild the uImage?
  • [20:21:26] <koen> no
  • [20:21:35] <koen> and uImage has no effect on muxing
  • [20:21:57] <kona> oh is it u-boot that does?
  • [20:22:05] <kona> or am I wrong about that too lol
  • [20:22:13] <koen> u-boot does the muxing
  • [20:22:18] <Crofton|work> well, we've had bad luck using the linux pin mux setup ...
  • [20:22:28] <koen> the in-kernel mux code seems not to be doing anything usefull
  • [20:22:29] <Crofton|work> you can set the pinmux in either
  • [20:22:44] <Crofton|work> but we have had better luck with the u-boot pinmux code
  • [20:22:52] <kona> yeah, i cant seem to get the linux pinmux to work so I figured id tru u-boot
  • [20:23:08] <Russ> Crofton|work: I'm waiting for UPS too :)
  • [20:23:26] <koen> Crofton|work: we need to get your SPI patch into u-boot
  • [20:23:46] <koen> Crofton|work: 'need' as in 'koen will have a daughterboard that uses SPI'
  • [20:24:02] <Crofton|work> will it use the same spi pins?
  • [20:24:17] <koen> <- spi n00b
  • [20:24:22] <Crofton|work> my concern is we will ahve different boards that need different pinmux setup
  • [20:24:37] * koen only accounts for stuff on his desk
  • [20:24:51] <Crofton|work> does the board also have mmc?
  • [20:24:56] <koen> yes
  • [20:25:05] <Crofton|work> I think spi3 is on the mmc pins
  • [20:25:11] <Crofton|work> we'll need to look over the options
  • [20:25:13] <koen> mmc, rtc over i2c and ethernet over spi
  • [20:25:28] <Crofton|work> mmc also over spi?
  • [20:25:49] <koen> AIUI using mmc pins
  • [20:26:15] <koen> no actual board yet
  • [20:26:24] <Crofton|work> need to look at the expansion connector pinout
  • [20:26:25] <kona> can someone explain to me the difference between u-boot and iUmage?
  • [20:26:28] <koen> iirc I sent you the picture of teh board
  • [20:26:28] <kona> uImage/
  • [20:26:29] <kona> ?
  • [20:26:35] <Crofton|work> u-boot is the boot loader
  • [20:26:37] <koen> uImage is the linux kernel
  • [20:26:41] <Crofton|work> uImage is the Linux kernel
  • [20:26:42] <kona> got it
  • [20:27:00] * Crofton|work can use the shift key
  • [20:27:30] <kona> so if I built a new version of u-boot I could update the bootloader on the beagleboard with it, correct?
  • [20:27:36] <Crofton|work> right
  • [20:27:54] <kona> do you know how I would build a new version using bitbake?
  • [20:28:03] <kona> i want to change mux setting so
  • [20:28:06] <Crofton|work> bitbake u-boot
  • [20:28:18] <kona> beautiful
  • [20:28:18] <Crofton|work> and make a patch that changes the pinmux
  • [20:28:26] <Crofton|work> and add to bb file
  • [20:28:56] <kona> ooo, umm how woudl i do that?
  • [20:29:25] <kona> i was just gonna change the c file
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  • [20:32:33] <Crofton> pull the u-boot git
  • [20:32:53] <Crofton> brnach at the rev used by the version built for oe and make a patch
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  • [23:37:51] <JD30> Trying to build a beagleboard kernel with PM support.
  • [23:38:09] <JD30> Can anyone tell me the command to build the PM kernel. i.e: "bitbake ???"
  • [23:38:38] <Russ> I don't know if there is a recipe for one
  • [23:38:49] <Russ> why not look into recipes/linux and find out?
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  • [23:39:30] <JD30> Is that under the OE directory tree?
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  • [23:39:36] <Russ> yes
  • [23:39:52] <JD30> looked there - did not see it
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  • [23:41:06] <JD30> Used to build it by adding "-pm" to linux-omap in the beagleboard.conf file
  • [23:41:19] <Russ> dunno
  • [23:41:26] <JD30> But, something changed recently and that does not work
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