• [00:00:00] <sakoman__> ds2: yeah just grab any available irq (make sure pimux is correct :-)
  • [00:01:09] <ds2> the TSC2046 datasheet SEEMS to suggest /PENIRQ is option
  • [00:01:22] <ds2> but I'll wire it in if it will make life easier
  • [00:01:36] <jkridner|work> cgs: sorry, I don't. I'll make an internal.
  • [00:02:14] <sakoman__> ds2: well perhaps it is optional from a hw point of view, but the driver may like to have it :-)
  • [00:02:14] <cgs> ???jkridner|work: cool thanks, Daniel working on it?
  • [00:02:34] <ds2> sakoman_: what about the VAUX stuff?
  • [00:02:55] <jkridner|work> er, internal ping.
  • [00:02:59] <sakoman__> I didn't have to do anything with that. Does your hardware use vaux for anything?
  • [00:03:04] <jkridner|work> cgs: I don't know that.
  • [00:03:19] <ds2> nevermind, EVM doesn't bother... only SDP bothers with it
  • [00:03:24] <ds2> I'll follow EVM instead
  • [00:03:42] <sakoman__> sdp may use that supply for something ts related
  • [00:03:49] <ds2> Vaux is floating along with the battery input
  • [00:04:06] <sakoman__> at any rate, I don't expect you will have much trouble
  • [00:04:29] <cgs> ???jkridner|work: yup, understood
  • [00:04:34] <sakoman__> I'll be around later this evening, so feel free to ping me if you run into trouble
  • [00:04:38] <ds2> ... so I thought that about UART2 yesterday having had working code for it on RevB
  • [00:04:47] <sakoman__> :-)
  • [00:04:59] <ds2> at this point, I will assume nothing works until I have personally proven otherwise
  • [00:05:07] <geckosenator> hi
  • [00:05:18] <geckosenator> ds2: yes (last question you asked me)
  • [00:05:36] <sakoman__> off for an early dinner tonight . . .
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  • [00:06:26] <geckosenator> sakoman__: the file panel-samsung-lte430wq-f0c.c doesn't exist in my omap-dss2 tree
  • [00:06:28] <mrc3_> hello, jkridner|work, ping
  • [00:08:08] <geckosenator> sakoman__: do you have a clone url for your tree? I can't find it on your site
  • [00:08:48] <mrc3_> cgs, i see you were asking about tiopenmax
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  • [00:09:09] <cgs> ???mrc3_: yup
  • [00:09:33] <mrc3_> cgs, well, i do have an update, but it's not a release package yet
  • [00:09:50] <cgs> ahh - didn't match the nic :)
  • [00:10:24] <cgs> I am quite keen to try out the new nodes if they are available?
  • [00:11:06] <mrc3_> cgs. it *seems* that socketnodes/baseimage work all right, but i need to verify that tiopenmax actually works
  • [00:13:15] <cgs> mrc3_: what resolution does the mp4 codec handle?
  • [00:13:22] <geckosenator> hopefully sakoman__'s early dinner means he will be back early too :-P
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  • [00:14:07] <mrc3_> cgs, i ran a very simple test with qvga, i'd need to check with larger resolutions
  • [00:16:22] <cgs> mrc3_: ok - so hang tight? or is there a chance of a preliminary trial with the new socketnodes? :)
  • [00:16:55] <mrc3_> cgs, let me try to get that
  • [00:17:18] <jkridner|work> hi mrc3_.
  • [00:17:23] <sakoman__> geckosenator: this patch should apply on top of current linux-omap:
  • [00:17:26] <sakoman__> http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=blob;f=packages/linux/linux-omap3/dss2.patch;h=5bb6cc8fc7f3cf8a021ea7172aa62d735f4ebcac;hb=refs/heads/overo
  • [00:17:32] <mrc3_> cgs, do you have tests of your own? i mean, if you had only the socketnodes and no omx, would you be able to test something?
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  • [00:17:43] <sakoman__> now I am really gone :-)
  • [00:19:15] <mrc3_> jkridner|work, heyya!
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  • [00:22:15] <cgs> mrc3_: possibly.... I have Felipe's G-Streamer setup, but I had read that the 0.3 nodes did not work?
  • [00:22:46] <mrc3_> cgs, i tried using gst-openmax and it's not working for me. that's what i want to validate before releasing a package "supposed to work"
  • [00:23:46] <cgs> ???mrc3_: ahhh, well I can give it a try here as well if you want?
  • [00:24:19] <mrc3_> cgs, i would like that! i just need to get clearance to release those socketnodes binaries. let me work on that, and hopefully tomorrow i should get an answer
  • [00:25:03] <jkridner|work> cgs, mrc3_: anything I can help with here or can I turn my attention elsewhere?
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  • [00:25:25] <jkridner|work> mrc3_: wish I had the authority to just say let them fly! :)
  • [00:25:27] <cgs> mrc3_: okay - cheers - nope thanks for your help
  • [00:26:50] <mrc3_> jkridner|work, thanks! we can talk some more about it tomorrow
  • [00:27:16] <tharvey> any reason why armv7 is still on 4.3.1 vs 4.3.2 or 4.3.3? are they unstable/untested?
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  • [00:36:59] <geckosenator> sakoman__: patch -p1 < ../packages_linux_linux-omap3_dss2.patch
  • [00:37:01] <geckosenator> sakoman__: The next patch would create the file Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS,
  • [00:37:04] <geckosenator> which already exists! Assume -R? [n]
  • [00:37:44] <geckosenator> is there some way I can just clone your git?
  • [00:44:47] <geckosenator> I wonder if I can fix this with two not gates instead
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  • [00:51:05] <Ambrosia> hallo!
  • [00:51:22] <Ambrosia> I'm newbie I have just purchased my beagle board
  • [00:51:34] <Ambrosia> but I got some errors when I try to install debian arm
  • [00:51:37] <Ambrosia> Buffer I/O error on device mtdblock0, logical block 2
  • [00:51:37] <Ambrosia> uncorrectable error : <3>end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector 24
  • [00:51:49] <Ambrosia> I followed instructions at elinux
  • [00:51:57] <Ambrosia> but I don't know what is wrong
  • [00:52:06] <Ambrosia> does anybody can help me, thanks in advance
  • [00:53:57] <jkridner|work> I believe those are harmless errors.
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  • [00:54:36] <Ambrosia> ok jkridner
  • [00:54:46] <Ambrosia> nonetheless I can't see anything on my lcd screen
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  • [00:57:37] <Ambrosia> jkridner, I can't see anything on my lcd screen
  • [00:57:54] <Ambrosia> I'm sure my lcd supports the resolution observations I have read on elinux
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  • [01:00:05] <Ambrosia> does it has take so much time to run debian arm on beagle?
  • [01:02:54] <Ambrosia> what could be the problem
  • [01:02:59] <Ambrosia> anybody can help me :)
  • [01:03:23] <geckosenator> ok
  • [01:04:20] <geckosenator> Ambrosia: what dss version are you using?
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  • [01:04:57] <Ambrosia> mmm gecko: could you explain more
  • [01:05:06] <Ambrosia> I have followed instructions at elinux
  • [01:05:08] <geckosenator> Ambrosia: can you try this:
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  • [01:05:27] <geckosenator> cat /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/displays
  • [01:05:45] <Ambrosia> gecko: on beagle or pc?
  • [01:05:51] <geckosenator> beagle
  • [01:05:53] <Ambrosia> I'm a new girl on this :)
  • [01:06:03] <geckosenator> me too
  • [01:06:10] <geckosenator> except i'm not a girl
  • [01:06:52] <Ambrosia> cat is not part of beagle commands
  • [01:07:20] <geckosenator> it's a shell command
  • [01:07:24] <geckosenator> what are the beagle commands?
  • [01:07:40] <Ambrosia> beagle has a small shell installed by default
  • [01:07:49] <Ambrosia> and it has a few commands
  • [01:07:53] <geckosenator> you are talking about uboot?
  • [01:07:54] <Ambrosia> for setting some variables
  • [01:08:08] <Ambrosia> yeah uboot
  • [01:08:10] <Ambrosia> :)
  • [01:08:14] <geckosenator> ok, first boot linux
  • [01:08:45] <Ambrosia> gecko: and how? Should be starting from sd card inserted on beagle?
  • [01:09:02] <geckosenator> most likely yes
  • [01:09:13] <ds2> geckosenator: it may be easier to get the old omapfb driver working with an LCD
  • [01:09:23] <geckosenator> ds2: really.. why is that?
  • [01:09:30] <Ambrosia> how ds2?
  • [01:09:35] <ds2> cuz you have to edit just 1 file and be done with
  • [01:09:43] <geckosenator> ds2: and then recompile
  • [01:09:53] <ds2> yes, but that file has all the parameters you need for the LCD
  • [01:09:55] <geckosenator> and in that file I can set horizontal and vertical polarities?
  • [01:10:01] <ds2> yep, you can set everything
  • [01:10:24] <geckosenator> too bad I can't with sysfs
  • [01:10:24] <Ambrosia> ds2 and gecko: I'm lost :(
  • [01:10:35] <ds2> look at lcd_omap3beagle.c
  • [01:10:54] <dioioib> :) me too
  • [01:11:17] <ds2> or something simplier - lcd_2430sdp.c for an example with a fixed dumb LCD
  • [01:12:00] <geckosenator> cool
  • [01:12:08] <geckosenator> is there already one for this panel?
  • [01:12:27] <ds2> don't think the PSP was ever added
  • [01:12:38] <ds2> but it easy enough to get teh values from the datasheet
  • [01:12:43] <Ambrosia> ds2 but how to acces lcd_omap3beagle.c? everything is compressed on boot partition with fat32
  • [01:12:56] <ds2> Amrbosia: linux source code; clone the l-o tree
  • [01:13:04] <ds2> it is in drivers/video/omap
  • [01:13:08] <geckosenator> ds2: yeah
  • [01:14:06] <ds2> oops, s/Amrbosia/Ambrosia/
  • [01:14:09] <geckosenator> we really need to be able to set hsync and vsync polarities from userspace heh
  • [01:14:17] <ds2> BAH
  • [01:14:25] <ds2> userspace, YUCK, *spit*
  • [01:14:32] <Ambrosia> ds2.. I'm confused please help a newbie girl :)
  • [01:14:51] <ds2> Ambrosia: get the linux kernel sources first.
  • [01:15:08] <geckosenator> ds2: which one does it use by default? I can just edit that one
  • [01:15:10] <ds2> Or pay for time from your friendly local Linux consultant :D
  • [01:15:29] <ds2> geckosenator: it will use lcd_omap3beagle.c or did I misunderstand your question?
  • [01:15:45] <geckosenator> ds2: no, I just wanted to be sure
  • [01:15:57] <Ambrosia> ds2: do you mean http://www.rcn-ee.com/deb/kernel/CC-v2.6.28-79d042a-oer14 ?
  • [01:16:09] <Ambrosia> ds2: and how much does it cost your time?
  • [01:16:14] <ds2> geckosenator: look in Makefile on how do you pull in files
  • [01:16:14] <Ambrosia> ds2: :)
  • [01:17:31] <geckosenator> ds2: ok
  • [01:17:33] <geckosenator> ds2: I think sakoman__ already added it to dss2, but I just can't apply his patch or clone his tree
  • [01:17:34] <ds2> downloading
  • [01:17:59] <ds2> geckosenator: don't doubt that... just the old way is easier, IMO
  • [01:18:31] <ds2> geckosenator: or if you are really really nice, I'll trade you patches for an extra PCB for the DVI to nnn converter boards O:-)
  • [01:18:48] <ds2> geckosenator: I hope to be looking at that problem before Friday
  • [01:19:16] <geckosenator> ds2: I will send you one tomorrow if I had your address
  • [01:19:48] <geckosenator> I don't have parts to go on it though, but you can get them with free samples
  • [01:19:52] <Ambrosia> ds2: how much cost your time?
  • [01:20:07] <ds2> Ambrosia: no... that is not the file. you will need to clone Tony's tree
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  • [01:20:54] <ds2> install git and clone http://www.rcn-ee.com/deb/kernel/CC-v2.6.28-79d042a-oer14 then add the OE patches
  • [01:21:07] <ds2> Ambrosia: it is variable
  • [01:21:32] <ds2> right now, it is getting close to infinity but will go down come first week april (booked at the moment)
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  • [01:22:14] <geckosenator> ds2: do you know the kernel config option to use the old DSS?
  • [01:23:12] <ds2> geckosenator: I think CONFIG_OMAP_FB, IIRC
  • [01:25:47] <geckosenator> I made the appropriate changes :-P
  • [01:26:20] <ds2> geckosenator: just clone tony's tree and use it? it only has the old omap driver in it
  • [01:26:31] <geckosenator> ok fine
  • [01:28:15] <geckosenator> do you have the clone url for that? I can't find it
  • [01:29:35] <ds2> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git
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  • [01:31:25] <geckosenator> do you need the hdmi to parallel adapter soon? or are you just interested in having one?
  • [01:31:36] <geckosenator> it's going to take a while to clone
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  • [02:22:37] <geckosenator> ds2: do you know what FB_OMAP_LCDC_EXTERNAL does?
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  • [02:48:42] <leslie> in current git version of linux-omap(linux-omap-2.6.28-r14), is it using alsa as audio driver or oss?
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  • [02:52:35] <Crofton|work> alsa, with oss emulation
  • [02:56:31] <leslie> twl4030? is it working fine now?
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  • [03:00:15] <leslie> I have a mini board using TPS65930 to replace twl4030, I'm searching driver for this chip, anybody here knows this chip?
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  • [03:25:11] <ds2> the tps65930 should work as a twl4030 as far as software is concern, IIRC
  • [03:25:21] <ds2> esp. the codec section
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  • [03:41:18] <mib_z6s262> just got the beagleboard revb7. having issues in terminal on os x 10.5 not responding to input. have tried 'screen', zterm, and minicom VM. any suggestions?
  • [03:43:58] <ZeZu> your speaking about serial connection ?
  • [03:44:15] <ZeZu> or ssh ?
  • [03:44:49] <ZeZu> and you get the xloader/uboot/kernel text but just can't send keyboard input ?
  • [03:46:30] <mib_z6s262> rs232 through usb2serial interface. X-Loader/U-boot working and do get to 'OMAP3 beagleboard.org #' prompt.
  • [03:47:11] <ZeZu> hmm
  • [03:47:40] <ZeZu> you have flow control turned off ?
  • [03:48:09] <mib_z6s262> both xon/xoff and h/w flow are disabled in zterm and minicom
  • [03:49:02] <ZeZu> that is very odd, i've only had issues where it didn't work at all
  • [03:49:28] <ZeZu> you could try booting from MLO
  • [03:49:55] <ZeZu> if its some kindof bug / corruption on x-loader
  • [03:49:58] <ds2> check your idc to db cable
  • [03:50:00] <ZeZu> which is unlikely but you never know
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  • [03:52:57] <leslie> ds2: I never heard any sound from headphone, should I tune up volume?
  • [03:53:16] <ds2> leslie: check your mixer settings
  • [03:53:25] <mib_z6s262> will try both and check cables. need to reboot to win32 to try ttpro, so dropping off. thx.
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  • [03:53:59] <ds2> make sure it isn't muted
  • [03:58:13] <leslie> ds2: here is the dmesg of twl, http://pastebin.com/d1812d735, is it correct for audio?
  • [04:01:07] <leslie> I checked alsamixer, master sound is 100%, so audio part may not drived
  • [04:03:47] <ds2> leslie: looks about right
  • [04:04:55] <leslie> ds2: so I have to alter the audio part of tps65930?
  • [04:06:33] <ds2> leslie: nope. it should "just work"
  • [04:06:46] <ds2> looks like from your output it found the codec
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  • [05:30:08] <ds2> sakoman: any chance you are here?
  • [05:31:40] <geckosenator> ds2: it works!
  • [05:31:47] <geckosenator> I have the lcd working now yay
  • [05:32:01] <ds2> geckosenator: which driver?
  • [05:32:06] <geckosenator> old one
  • [05:32:09] <ds2> cool
  • [05:32:13] <ds2> so it was easier ;)
  • [05:32:18] <geckosenator> yeah
  • [05:32:48] <geckosenator> and also DE should always be high
  • [05:33:05] <geckosenator> for some designs it isn't.. the hdmi decoder outputs a DE which is sort of like hsync
  • [05:33:11] <geckosenator> but I have to tie it high to make it work
  • [05:33:36] <geckosenator> I'm going to buy proper ribbon cables tomorrow for it
  • [05:34:13] <geckosenator> ds2: do you want my hdmi->parallel board now that we know it works?
  • [05:35:14] <ds2> geckosenator: sure, just no time to look at it til april
  • [05:45:41] <geckosenator> ok
  • [05:46:01] <geckosenator> I only have 1 of 24 datalines hooked up
  • [05:46:06] <geckosenator> so the picture isn't great
  • [05:46:51] <geckosenator> and bluetooth isn't working with this kernel
  • [05:47:53] <geckosenator> the lcd backlight is running off a lithium battery though
  • [05:52:58] <geckosenator> well I can click on things with my mouse
  • [05:53:39] <geckosenator> I'm running the io at 3.3v
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  • [06:17:33] <techno65535> what server is this channel on? since it doesn't say anywhere on the page it seems
  • [06:19:45] <geckosenator> freenode
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  • [06:38:45] <geckosenator> ds2: the old dss isn't great
  • [06:38:57] <geckosenator> it times out after 5-10 minutes or so and shuts the screen off
  • [06:39:53] <geckosenator> and at powerup, I have to set DE high after everything else is powered up
  • [06:39:59] <geckosenator> so I think I"ll use a switch
  • [06:40:00] <geckosenator> heh
  • [06:43:39] <ds2> that''s the power save
  • [06:44:01] <ds2> try something like 'echo 0 > /dev/tty1'
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  • [06:45:08] <geckosenator> oh
  • [06:45:11] <geckosenator> I have to wait
  • [06:45:39] <geckosenator> maybe not a problem :-P
  • [06:45:52] <geckosenator> I wonder.. can you have it use the DE pin for that?
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  • [06:58:39] <geckosenator> what does it mean: omapfb: timeout waiting for FRAME DONE ?
  • [07:00:14] <ds2> yes, there is a blank function in the driver... change the code there
  • [07:00:18] <ds2> or comment it out
  • [07:00:54] <ds2> there is what is an VBLANK interrupt equiv... it probally didn't get received but you made an ioctl to wait for it
  • [07:03:23] <tomba> geckosenator: the blanking comes from framebuffer console, not from dss
  • [07:04:32] <tomba> geckosenator: and with normal LCDs framedone interrupt is used when turning off the lcd output. I don't know why you'd get a timeout though
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  • [07:05:22] <geckosenator> hmm.. I can't seem to reproduce it
  • [07:05:26] <geckosenator> it doesn't seem to timeout now
  • [07:07:06] <geckosenator> tomba: do you know.. can the DE signal be controlled in software?
  • [07:07:16] <geckosenator> on a scope it looked the same as hsync
  • [07:07:26] <geckosenator> but really it just needs to be high when on, and low when off for this lcd
  • [07:08:21] <tomba> DE == data enable? it should be on when the DISPC is sending pixel data. I don't think you can control it from software.
  • [07:08:34] <ds2> sure you can
  • [07:08:43] <ds2> change pinmux to Mode 4 (GPIO)
  • [07:08:47] <ds2> and use it as a GPIO
  • [07:09:29] <tomba> that's not DE signal then, is it ;). but yes, gpio is one option. although it's quite strange LCD if it wants DE to be enabled all the time
  • [07:09:46] <ds2> I think his LCD doesn't care about DE
  • [07:10:09] <ds2> no need to qualify CLK with DE on that LCD, IIRC
  • [07:11:39] <geckosenator> the DE signal is actually carried over HDMI
  • [07:12:07] <geckosenator> well maybe I will try again with the usuall DE signal
  • [07:14:00] <geckosenator> yes, I cannot use the DE signal comming out of the dvi decoder
  • [07:14:17] <geckosenator> but if I tie the DE signal going into the lcd to vcc then it works
  • [07:15:41] <tomba> so what is the DE pin connected to? does the LCD spec say that it is DE or something else?
  • [07:23:57] <geckosenator> it's the psp display
  • [07:24:07] <geckosenator> the lcd spec says it is DE
  • [07:24:20] <geckosenator> I just think the timings on it are wrong.. so if I just hold it high it works
  • [07:24:31] <geckosenator> sort of like wiring CTS low on hardware flow control or something
  • [07:25:09] <tomba> what is psp display?
  • [07:25:29] <geckosenator> let me get a link
  • [07:25:54] <geckosenator> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8335
  • [07:26:06] <geckosenator> that is an image and has datasheet.. but I got the display for less than half that price
  • [07:27:04] <geckosenator> I couldn't get it to work with DSS2 because I needed to invert the hsync and vsync signals
  • [07:27:12] <geckosenator> so I hacked DSS1 to work for now
  • [07:27:35] <tomba> that didn't make much sense =) why couldn't you do that with dss2?
  • [07:27:50] <geckosenator> mainly because I don't know how
  • [07:27:59] <geckosenator> I wanted to do it from sysfs
  • [07:28:06] <geckosenator> but I don't think it's possible
  • [07:28:11] <tomba> ah well I gotta run to work. I'll be back in about an hour
  • [07:28:14] <geckosenator> ok
  • [07:28:16] <tomba> you have to edit the lcd driver
  • [07:28:30] <geckosenator> yeah
  • [07:29:25] <geckosenator> sakoman__ already edited it, but I couldn't get his patch to work
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  • [07:30:53] <chernobyl> hello there
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  • [07:31:16] <chernobyl> I need to know how to do that PoP for the chip
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  • [07:34:13] <geckosenator> they should make PoP stackable to make additional ram easier
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  • [08:03:04] <RobertK> good morning gentlemen
  • [08:03:33] <RobertK> Problem: I cannot bitbake console-image: http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/aJkIaP - md5 failed...
  • [08:03:37] <RobertK> What can I do?
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  • [08:05:38] <koen> RobertK: git pull, since that was fixed a few days ago
  • [08:06:38] <RobertK> koen: "Already up-to-date." I use http://repo.or.cz/r/openembedded.git as repo
  • [08:08:05] <RobertK> koen: any idea?
  • [08:10:38] * koen doesn't use repo.or.cz
  • [08:10:56] <RobertK> :-) I am behind a firewall. And I hate it.
  • [08:15:24] <tomba> geckosenator: what was wrong with the patch? couldn't apply, or it just didn't work?
  • [08:18:46] <geckosenator> I could not apply
  • [08:18:56] <geckosenator> it was supposed to apply on top of your git tree
  • [08:19:22] <geckosenator> tomba: I cloned your git tree and the last commit was early febuary 2
  • [08:23:18] <geckosenator> sakoman__ had a tree too which had commits from you from march, but there was no clone url
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  • [08:25:32] <tomba> geckosenator: hmm. when did you clone my tree? there are commits from march, have been there for some time
  • [08:27:15] <geckosenator> today
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  • [08:27:43] <geckosenator> I must have the wrong url
  • [08:27:48] <geckosenator> http://github.com/tomba/linux-omap-dss2/commits/rotate
  • [08:28:16] <tomba> yes, that was just a test. where did you find that? I've never told anyone about it
  • [08:28:38] <tomba> github was much too slow, so I didn't start using it
  • [08:28:51] <tomba> http://www.bat.org/~tomba/git/linux-omap-dss.git
  • [08:30:12] <geckosenator> sorry I used google
  • [08:30:33] <geckosenator> maybe it should be shut down or something
  • [08:30:49] <tomba> yeah. I'll see if I can delete it
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  • [08:31:24] <geckosenator> I will clone your newer one now and try the patch and hopefully it works
  • [08:31:30] <leslie> does headphone work on beagleboard or I need a active loudspeaker with power supply?
  • [08:31:42] <geckosenator> tomba: is there a way to change the hsync and vsync polarity from sysfs?
  • [08:31:51] <tomba> no
  • [08:32:04] <geckosenator> it would be nice if you are swapping displays and don't want to reboot
  • [08:32:35] <geckosenator> leslie: headphone will work for a speaker you probably need a power supply
  • [08:33:22] <tomba> geckosenator: well, usually you should have separate LCD drivers for those
  • [08:35:03] <tomba> but perhaps we need more runtime control for the displays. they are not needed in conventional embedded devices, but with these new beagleboards etc this it turning to something else =)
  • [08:35:11] <geckosenator> tomba: well what if for instance you have a small lcd display, but also optional dvi output for an external display
  • [08:35:30] <geckosenator> so you might want to plug in an external display without having to reboot
  • [08:35:53] <geckosenator> and yes, I agree this is not a conventional embedded device
  • [08:36:19] <tomba> then, with the current architecture, you need to have two displays configured. and when you change it, you disable the first one and enable the second one
  • [08:36:32] <geckosenator> well I thought the omap supports two displays at the same time
  • [08:36:35] <tomba> for example, SDP has DVI output and an LCD. they can be changed runtime
  • [08:36:49] <tomba> only tv and lcd
  • [08:37:01] <geckosenator> oh, I thought there were two lcds.. maybe not
  • [08:37:13] <geckosenator> like.. there was an io pin that could be used to select which one it is currently driving
  • [08:37:24] <tomba> well, in some cases there may be two lcds. but you probably don't have that kind of configurations
  • [08:37:28] <geckosenator> so the frame rate would be half
  • [08:37:47] <geckosenator> well probably not.. but maybe
  • [08:38:05] <tomba> sure, if you build some external component that divides the LCD signal two to LCDs. but that's not OMAP feature then
  • [08:38:14] <geckosenator> anyway, good work on the driver, I was able to set everything with sysfs except the hsync and vsync polarities
  • [08:38:39] <tomba> RFBI supports two displays, with fewer data lines. with DSI there can be, in theory, 4 LCDs
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  • [08:39:29] <tomba> but I think the RFBI and DSI displays are quite custom LCDs, not normally available
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  • [08:45:55] <ds2> tomba: how is the second LCD wired on the SDP?
  • [08:53:28] <tomba> ds2: there's a dip switch you can use to select where the lcd signals go
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  • [09:04:41] <geckosenator> I wouldn't mind having dual 4.3" displays
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  • [09:20:23] <nasloc__> hi, anyone one can recommend a usb hub for beagle board?
  • [09:22:06] <nasloc__> I've bought one but it's not worked for my rev B7 board's OTG port.
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  • [09:38:12] <mru> any hub should work...
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  • [10:00:10] <limpkin> hi guys
  • [10:00:30] <mru> hi
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  • [10:03:01] <limpkin> does anyone here have a clue about the time needed for an ARM926EJ-S to decompress a 640*480 jpeg image?
  • [10:03:15] <limpkin> @ 266mhz
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  • [10:09:57] <mrg> hi, can anyone help me with a problem setting the screen resolution of my beagle board ?
  • [10:11:50] <sli_> yes
  • [10:12:05] <sli_> which resolution do you want
  • [10:12:16] <sli_> you can go to 1280x1024
  • [10:12:30] <mrg> I use 'echo "dvi e:1 m:1400x900MR@50m" > /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/displays' and then 'fbset -n -g 1400 900 1400 900 16' but it sets the fb res to 1400x438
  • [10:13:07] <mrg> I want 1400x900 and it seems to physically set it to that, but I can only use the top half of the screen
  • [10:13:11] <sli_> 'MR' will let the driver adjust
  • [10:13:38] <mrg> I'm a bit of a noob at this so I'm kind of guessing some of the settings
  • [10:14:01] <sli_> did u tried with u-boot boot args ?
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  • [10:14:54] <mrg> no, not sure how to do that
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  • [10:31:33] <davidcb> Limpkin: Someone on a GP2X board might be able to answer that.
  • [10:31:57] <mru> lol
  • [10:32:59] <limpkin> yep indeed
  • [10:33:02] <mru> argh, wrong window
  • [10:33:29] <davidcb> lol
  • [10:33:30] * mru stabs high-latency ssh
  • [10:34:15] <mru> limpkin: or a nokia 770
  • [10:34:36] * mru should breathe some life into his
  • [10:36:53] <limpkin> apparently on an OMAP850 @ 200mhz, it takes 29ms for a 320*240... so i'm guessing 120ms for a vga image
  • [10:37:04] <mru> using which lib?
  • [10:37:23] <limpkin> some lib that some fans wrote
  • [10:37:27] <limpkin> (http://bitbank.wordpress.com/category/arm9/=
  • [10:38:46] <mru> damn confusing omap numbers
  • [10:38:52] <mru> what's an omap850?
  • [10:39:16] <limpkin> <mrg> no, not sure how to do that
  • [10:39:19] <limpkin> youps
  • [10:39:32] <limpkin> http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
  • [10:39:45] <limpkin> using the same processor as i asked :)
  • [10:40:21] <limpkin> but to have this decompression time... you need an optimized algorithm, especially written for the ARM
  • [10:40:43] <mru> try ffmpeg
  • [10:41:02] <limpkin> actually i'm asking the question but I won't be using any OS on the ARM
  • [10:41:03] <mru> if it doesn't beat those figures, file a bug report ;-)
  • [10:42:01] <mru> haha, that guy doesn't know what he's talking about
  • [10:42:24] <mru> arm926 is v5, not v6
  • [10:42:39] <koen> mru: nooo!
  • [10:42:50] <koen> mru: 926 has a six in it, so it must be armv6!
  • [10:43:34] <limpkin> v5te actually
  • [10:43:42] <mru> yeah
  • [10:44:10] <koen> vt
  • [10:44:13] <koen> ehm
  • [10:44:18] <koen> v5tej
  • [10:44:20] <mru> that's what people usually mean when they say v5
  • [10:44:54] * koen is getting 1.2GHz v5 cpu this month
  • [10:45:03] <koen> I wonder how it stacks up against the beagle
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  • [10:45:40] <koen> it seems to have proper ddr memory, so it would beat the beagle in mem bw
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  • [10:52:16] <mru> koen: what board is that?
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  • [10:54:32] <florian> good morning
  • [10:54:45] <mru> morning florian
  • [10:57:14] <likewise> koen: plugdev?
  • [10:58:07] <mrg> sli_: setting u-boot video mode worked. thanks :)
  • [11:00:53] <limpkin> by the way
  • [11:01:08] <limpkin> beagleboard was accepted in gsoc?
  • [11:03:23] <mru> no
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  • [11:03:41] <limpkin> seriously? :/
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  • [11:04:17] <mru> there were many more applicants than slots
  • [11:05:33] <limpkin> that's not cool
  • [11:09:40] <koen> mru: sheevaplug
  • [11:10:03] <koen> likewise: the foonas people donated me a plug :)
  • [11:13:11] <mru> koen: what's that?
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  • [11:14:11] <koen> mru: http://www.marvell.com/featured/plugcomputing.jsp
  • [11:14:31] <Crofton|work> does it fit in your outlet?
  • [11:14:53] <koen> I have an anything->anything travel plug
  • [11:14:58] <koen> and a soldering iron :)
  • [11:16:18] * Crofton|work is mad at people for trying to distract koen :)
  • [11:16:52] <koen> this stomach bug has increased my productivity a lot wrt actual studying
  • [11:16:59] <Crofton|work> arg, I need to pull the OSK out and test some stuff
  • [11:17:04] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [11:17:14] <Crofton|work> Feel the power of procratination
  • [11:17:41] <suihkulokki> Crofton|work: the plug of the plug is detachable and exposes a standard 2-pin slot: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/gallery.html
  • [11:18:18] <Stskeeps> suihkulokki: that's neat :)
  • [11:19:30] <colla> what' the right way to change the defconfig of beagleboard kernel? If I made some changes in /openembedded/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.28/beagleboard/defConfig but when I rebuild the package it seems that make oldconfig reset my change. I'm missing something?
  • [11:22:07] <suihkulokki> and, btw, there is #openplug to discuss that device about (this channel is still dedicated to beagleboard methinks ;)
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  • [11:23:20] <mru> suihkulokki: I guess koen was just doing a shameless plug for his new toy
  • [11:24:31] <koen> actually the leopardboard people are supposed to use this channel as well :)
  • [11:25:23] <Crofton|work> we should all move to #ol
  • [11:26:05] <khasim> does any one know what I should enable in kernel to get telnet running on board
  • [11:26:35] <khasim> basically telnet daemon
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  • [11:30:00] <koen> eeeew telnet
  • [11:30:05] <koen> why not use dropbear?
  • [11:32:26] <dioioib> does the beagle accept sdhc cards ie. 16gb etc?
  • [11:32:46] <khasim> koen: one of my collegue has a box that is running on some filesystem on NAND, he has messed up the console, so he is not getting console on LCD/UART.
  • [11:33:05] <khasim> I was suggesting him to telnet to the board and use the board.
  • [11:33:38] <khasim> but telnet from other machine to board's IP fails, I was thinking we should enable some thing in kernel and also run the daemon on FS on board.
  • [11:34:25] <khasim> hmm,,, no success yet. can try MMC / NFS but that will not give us FS on NAND
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  • [11:57:35] <koen> florian: could you give apache a kick?
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  • [11:58:54] <florian> koen: done
  • [11:59:17] * florian wonders what causes this effect since it seems to happen while the machine is idle
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  • [12:14:59] <RobertK> yes
  • [12:15:20] <RobertK> ups, forget to scroll an answered a very old question...
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  • [12:20:30] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:20:36] <Crofton|work> gm
  • [12:20:59] <mru> morning jkridner
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  • [12:22:54] <jkridner> hi Crofton|work, mru
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  • [12:24:13] <florian> ji jkridner
  • [12:24:23] <jkridner> howdy florian
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  • [12:25:06] <jkridner> after yesterday's gsoc news, I'm looking for something positive. anything new in the world today?
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  • [12:27:08] <koen> jkridner: the beagle is still the coolest armv7 board around :)
  • [12:27:16] <jkridner> :)
  • [12:27:20] <jkridner> that works.
  • [12:27:50] <mru> nothing good from me I'm afraid... :-(
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  • [12:27:51] <koen> Tran (the leopardboard guy) is going to try OE to help with .29rc porting
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  • [12:28:14] * jkridner is looking forward to frets-on-fire for ARM.
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  • [12:33:55] <koen> jkridner: I looked at that before
  • [12:34:16] <koen> jkridner: the FoF code is written with a quad core i7 with a geforge 99999999 in mind
  • [12:34:39] <koen> s/c/g/ somewhere
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  • [12:36:19] <koen> jkridner: give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/uImage-2.6.28-pm3+gitrfe30e75b8c0b91b259fcea781b859e594ba21ae9-r7-beagleboard.bin a spin on your beagle, you'll like it :)
  • [12:36:33] <limpkin> anyone here as an experience on the LPC32x0? :)
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  • [12:37:43] <erbo> anyone knows why pulseaudio is stuck at version 0.9.10? the 0.9.11 is set to default_preference = -1
  • [12:38:07] <koen> lack of testing
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  • [12:38:29] <Crofton|work> yep
  • [12:38:36] <Crofton|work> I have tried it and it may not build
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  • [12:39:51] <erbo> ok, I'll see if I can get it working
  • [12:40:09] <koen> the pulseaudio author called me well informed about pulse :)
  • [12:40:23] <erbo> need some new API stuff that was added in .11
  • [12:40:39] <erbo> koen: that's always a nice
  • [12:40:51] <erbo> he should know what he's talking about :)
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  • [12:45:25] <Crofton|work> erbo, keep me posted
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  • [14:01:35] <florian> koen: yes indeed... i'll restart the databases as well
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  • [14:02:25] <mru> koen: ffmpeg switched to lighttpd a long time ago
  • [14:02:46] <mru> apache has become a monster
  • [14:03:22] <koen> I'm more inclined to cherokee, but yes apache is a monster
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  • [14:03:46] <florian> time to get the second machine running
  • [14:04:13] <koen> florian: ditching gitweb and switching to cgit would help a lot as well
  • [14:04:18] <koen> gitweb doesn't cache
  • [14:04:27] <koen> and git isn't exactly light on IO
  • [14:04:32] <mru> gitweb is nothing compared to viewvc
  • [14:04:40] <mru> *that* is a monster
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  • [15:14:40] <davet> I am having trouble booting from SD Card.... i get error saying **Unable to read "uImage" from mmc 0:1 **
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  • [15:15:07] <davet> and also "Wrong Image Format for bootm command" and ERROR: can't get kernal image!"
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  • [15:15:48] <davet> anyone know how to fix this?
  • [15:16:59] <davet> anyone out there?
  • [15:17:23] <keesj> you have two partitions and the first is fat?
  • [15:17:40] <davet> yes one is fat
  • [15:17:45] <davet> other is Angstrom
  • [15:17:58] <davet> or has angstrom on it
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  • [15:18:25] <sli__> well do you have uImage on the first VFAT partition ?
  • [15:18:29] <keesj> and the uImage is named uImage and is on the fat right?
  • [15:19:43] <davet> yes it is... uImage.bin on File System: vfat(fat32)
  • [15:19:52] <keesj> - bin
  • [15:20:01] <sli__> so it is not uImage but uImage.bin
  • [15:20:03] <sli__> RENAME IT
  • [15:20:14] <sli__> or load uImage.bin
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  • [15:21:23] <davet> i will try renaming to uImage
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  • [15:24:06] <davet> no luck, i am gonna try loading uImage.bin
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  • [15:33:30] <davet> # setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait'
  • [15:34:00] <keesj> I don't think you need the '
  • [15:34:00] <davet> does the ttyS2 refer to the port that I am using? I am currently using USB0
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  • [15:34:38] <davet> so no quotations at all?
  • [15:34:44] <keesj> it's the serial port viewedf from the beagle
  • [15:34:50] <davet> ok
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  • [15:40:22] <davet> hey the boot worked now, i did the uImage.bin
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  • [15:47:00] <davet> any good links on using the angstrom on the BB?
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  • [15:47:40] <keesj> plenty , try reading on elinux.org
  • [15:48:02] <davet> ok
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  • [16:11:48] <RogerMonk|linux> ping florian
  • [16:12:17] <florian> RogerMonk|linux: pong
  • [16:12:32] <RogerMonk|linux> hey florian - is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources alive ok?
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  • [16:13:19] <florian> RogerMonk|linux: yes, works for me
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  • [16:13:43] <RogerMonk> hmmm - ok, thanks - is it not normally browseable?
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  • [16:20:37] <RogerMonk> ah, ok - so you see the same issue - good.
  • [16:20:40] <RogerMonk> thanks for looking
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  • [16:23:52] <davet> the beagleboard should work with a keyboard + usb to mini-usb if it is powered by +5v right?
  • [16:24:12] <davet> i am trying to log into angstrom, but have no control
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  • [16:30:37] <koen> florian: OE downloaded an index.html, the source mirror mirrored that
  • [16:31:01] * koen thinks it's pretty funny since we just talked about cherokee :)
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  • [16:31:39] <florian> koen: heh... I flashed a 404 error message into an USBProg because the application does not verifx the downloaded firmware image
  • [16:32:04] <florian> and no, avr controllers do not know what to do with it ;)
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  • [16:33:57] * koen notices the source mirror has a dir called '${HGDIR}/'
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  • [16:34:28] <davet> koen are you the one who has a webcam working with the BB?
  • [16:36:49] <koen> there are others with working cams, but yes, I have one working as well
  • [16:37:23] <skipisz> I have one working. It is from Logitech.
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  • [17:21:15] <jkridner|work> hi g_que
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  • [17:28:02] <wretchedcurs> hi everyone!
  • [17:28:11] <wretchedcurs> It's my first time in the BB chat
  • [17:28:33] <wretchedcurs> none there?
  • [17:28:41] <wretchedcurs> I have a question about mmap() function on beagleBoard
  • [17:29:27] <mru> just ask
  • [17:29:37] <mru> if someone knows the answer, he might answer
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  • [17:29:43] <wretchedcurs> ok
  • [17:29:44] <wretchedcurs> sorru
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  • [17:29:54] <wretchedcurs> sorry, I was trying to figure out how does it work!
  • [17:29:55] <wretchedcurs> ok
  • [17:29:56] <wretchedcurs> so
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  • [17:30:20] <wretchedcurs> I'm trying to acces the SPI
  • [17:30:27] <wretchedcurs> actually SPI3
  • [17:30:37] <wretchedcurs> in order to acquire data from an external device
  • [17:30:54] <wretchedcurs> and as first attempt I'm trying to use the mmap() function
  • [17:31:06] <wretchedcurs> but using SPI3 I get the "Bus error" error
  • [17:31:34] <wretchedcurs> while using SPI1 in the OMAP (that is not phisically connected to beagle) I don't get the error
  • [17:31:53] <wretchedcurs> anyone tried this way?
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  • [17:32:23] <wretchedcurs> any suggests?
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  • [17:32:41] <mru> sorry, I don't know
  • [17:32:47] <wretchedcurs> ok
  • [17:32:49] <mru> if you stick around maybe someone will show up
  • [17:34:45] <wretchedcurs> ok, thank you very much
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  • [17:35:44] <NishanthMenon> wretchedcurs, one quick question -> i suppose you have done the required pin muxes... (disclaimer - not an expert in SPI)
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  • [17:37:38] * NishanthMenon wonders why SPI driver would provide mmap
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  • [17:38:12] <ds2> ARRG spi driver....
  • [17:38:35] * NishanthMenon guesses folks have had nightmares with spi driver..
  • [17:38:53] <ds2> NishanthMenon: I am fighting it right now... damn thing won't receive
  • [17:39:07] <ds2> going to dive into mcspi code tonight
  • [17:39:39] <NishanthMenon> ds2, :) long years back i guess spi issues were either -> pin muxes (knowing ds2, he'd have taken care of it) or spi clks..
  • [17:40:11] <NishanthMenon> ds2, if you can probe the spi channel, it is usually quicker to get an answer..
  • [17:40:15] <ds2> I have verified the pinmux; it is idle high if pull up enabled; idle low if pull down
  • [17:40:32] <ds2> spi clk works, spi MOSI works; but MISO does not work :(
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  • [17:40:42] <NishanthMenon> data coming in from device?
  • [17:40:48] <ds2> got it on a scope, no logic analyzer
  • [17:41:03] <ds2> yes, it is a TSC2046 so I believe it shifts through with a 8 clock delay
  • [17:41:09] <ds2> also verified CS0 is works
  • [17:41:17] <NishanthMenon> 2046.. ok.. sdp has that
  • [17:41:28] <ds2> even tried connecting MISO to MOSI; tried both McSPI4 and McSPI3
  • [17:41:45] <NishanthMenon> hmm... reminds me of one thing..
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  • [17:42:00] <ds2> only thing I have not played with is the mcspi driver itself; it does play with the receive/xmit only modes depending on the buffers it gets so...
  • [17:42:17] <NishanthMenon> 3430 sdpv1 and sdpv2 had the same chip.. but had to change clk frequency to get valid response
  • [17:42:27] <NishanthMenon> something to do with the type of display mounted..
  • [17:42:35] <ds2> the board file calls out 15MHz, IIRC
  • [17:42:46] <NishanthMenon> tried downing to 9.6k?
  • [17:42:54] <ds2> at this point, if the internal temperature sensors return ANYTHING at all, I'd be happy
  • [17:42:59] <ds2> not that slow yet
  • [17:43:06] <ds2> since it fails a loop back sanity test
  • [17:43:15] <NishanthMenon> hmmm...
  • [17:43:34] * NishanthMenon pulls up trm
  • [17:43:34] <ds2> the kernel test code spidrv_test returns all 0's just like the problem reports
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  • [17:44:11] <ds2> need to dump the SYST and CHCON registers to make sure they are sane cuz I can't think of another reason why they would not receive
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  • [17:45:29] <NishanthMenon> input to spi works but not output?
  • [17:45:38] <ds2> no, output works. input does not
  • [17:45:42] <ds2> I can see the output on the scope
  • [17:45:44] <NishanthMenon> MOSI = input rt?
  • [17:45:58] <ds2> MOSI == Master Out, Slave In so it is an output from OMAP
  • [17:46:00] <NishanthMenon> crap..
  • [17:46:02] <NishanthMenon> ok..
  • [17:46:06] <ds2> MISO == Master In Slave Out
  • [17:46:10] <NishanthMenon> simo somi
  • [17:46:10] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [17:46:13] <NishanthMenon> trm...
  • [17:46:24] <ds2> yes, that is always fun
  • [17:46:33] <ds2> have to expand it and think about it to be sure
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  • [17:47:35] <sakoman__> ds2: are you sure pinmux is right? Crofton had similar trouble and the root cause was pinmux
  • [17:48:16] <ds2> sakoman_: point out a flaw in this "verification" of the pinmux via U-boot - PTU - line is idle high; PTD - line is idle low
  • [17:48:26] <ds2> so I am guessing it is right based on that test
  • [17:48:42] <ds2> and this is happening on both McSPI4 and McSPI3
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  • [17:49:04] <NishanthMenon> ds2, you have ensured all other channels are down rt?
  • [17:49:15] <NishanthMenon> or do you have multiple devices?
  • [17:49:24] <ds2> NishanthMenon: other channels? as in other McSPI's or?
  • [17:49:28] <ds2> just 1 device
  • [17:49:38] <ds2> McSPI4 has only 1 CS
  • [17:49:42] <NishanthMenon> k
  • [17:49:51] <ds2> trying to keep the MMC2 pins free
  • [17:50:16] <NishanthMenon> one more thing to check would be to put a scope on clk Vs input compare it to clk Vs output
  • [17:50:56] * NishanthMenon remembers on once configuring with wrong edge..
  • [17:51:12] <sakoman__> ds2: the default u-boot does not enable the spi mode, the pins are set to gpio mode
  • [17:51:32] <ds2> that is a fair assertion - should I be able to check it by tying the input to Vcc and expect to clock back 0xff's?
  • [17:51:44] <sakoman__> and Crofton's issue was that he could not get input to work by using the kernel to reset the pinmux
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  • [17:51:50] <ds2> Vcc is fixed so I should be able to get back ff's regardless of edge
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  • [17:52:12] <NishanthMenon> ok:
  • [17:52:21] <sakoman__> I gave him a patch to set the pinmux in u-boot and then he was able to use SPI in both directions
  • [17:52:37] <NishanthMenon> case 1: mux is right but bad soldering -> check by using a gpio interrupt mode and see if it fires
  • [17:52:37] <ds2> sakoman_: yep, had to patch U-boot; verified I am running it by looking at the compile date and by building 2 versions of U-boot - one sets PTU, the other sets PTD. Pin changes as I change U-boot
  • [17:52:55] <NishanthMenon> case 2: mux is wrong -> put to vcc will help
  • [17:53:00] <ds2> soldering is good cuz I set it to GPIO output mode and I can toggle the line
  • [17:53:20] <NishanthMenon> case 3: wrong edge -> only soln is to put a scope
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  • [17:54:32] <ds2> what are the ways the mux can be wrong? I can think of Mode, Pull Up, Pull Down, Input enable... anything else I forgot?
  • [17:54:36] <NishanthMenon> ds2, just being paranoid: sure that kernel does not overwrite anything rite? i usually printk in the kernel probe function..
  • [17:54:38] <sakoman__> ds2: there is a thread on the mailing list about Crofton's experience getting McSPI3 to work
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  • [17:55:00] <ds2> sakoman_: read that multiple times and even compared the posted U-boot diffs with mine
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  • [17:55:27] <sakoman__> just checking!
  • [17:56:02] <NishanthMenon> just printk the padconf reg.. since u can toggle with gpio - you know the reg correctly...
  • [17:56:03] <ds2> NishanthMenon: I am reasonably sure... I am using spidev right now to verify it so nothing _SHOULD_ be doing stuff
  • [17:56:20] <ds2> but I'll dump the padconf reg just in case
  • [17:56:35] <sakoman__> ds2: I'm sure you've considered it, but I'll ask anyway - have you verified that none of the alternate pinouts for spi3 are active?
  • [17:56:36] <ds2> sakoman_: not arguing. Just giving a reason why I think I have covered it.
  • [17:56:38] <NishanthMenon> ds2, not that i am worried about spi driver.. just that my opnion of kernel mux handling is pretty low :(
  • [17:56:38] * koen is surprised how crappy the 2.6.10mv kernel is
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  • [17:56:50] <koen> it oopses on boot if you don't have ethernet connected
  • [17:57:09] <eFfeM> 2.6.10 wow, that is like ancient history
  • [17:57:14] <koen> I would have expected someone to fix that bug after FIVE damn years
  • [17:57:26] <ds2> sakoman__: yes. I verified it by - searching for McSPI3 in the TRM and checking for each one in the beagle.h AND I searched for McSPI3 in the schematic to see if there are any pins that referred to it.
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  • [17:58:07] <ds2> NishanthMenon: enabling pinmux config in the kernel breaks MMC on 2.6.29 so... it is more then low, it is broken :(
  • [17:58:22] <NishanthMenon> :( what is new
  • [17:58:52] <eFfeM> koen, that's not a bug, it's a feature :-)
  • [17:58:54] <ds2> after this is done, I'll dive into the code... all that code SHOULD be doing is a write to the padconf register
  • [17:59:05] <ds2> koen: what board is still running that?
  • [17:59:37] <koen> ds2: the to be released leopardboard
  • [17:59:50] <ds2> oh the dmxxx stuff
  • [17:59:59] <koen> ds2: but: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/first-steps-with-the-leopardboard
  • [18:00:24] <sakoman__> ds2: could you pastebin your u-boot pinmux for spi3?
  • [18:00:34] <ds2> sakoman_: sure
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  • [18:00:49] <sakoman__> probably is right, but always worth a second set of eyes
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  • [18:01:06] <eFfeM> koen, what res is that cam ?
  • [18:01:08] * NishanthMenon sighs in agreement
  • [18:01:27] <koen> eFfeM: swappable boards, goes from vga to 5MP
  • [18:01:54] <eFfeM> hm, could be nice if they are affordable
  • [18:02:20] <NishanthMenon> zoom2 8mp :D
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  • [18:02:33] <ds2> sakoman_: http://pastebin.com/d7bf2f196
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  • [18:02:50] <ds2> verification is always good esp. when one party has been starting it at for way too long
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  • [18:07:11] <emeb> sakoman__: I anticipate doing some work with the expansion connector in the near future. Do you know why pinmux settings have to be done in u-boot rather than in the kernel?
  • [18:07:30] <ds2> emeb: current kernels are broq. older ones like 2.6.24 worked fine.
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  • [18:08:35] <emeb> OK - is it just that the kernel pinmux code is hosed?
  • [18:08:41] <ds2> yes
  • [18:09:05] <emeb> Any chance that one could write a loadable module to override the borked kernel code?
  • [18:09:17] <ds2> no, but the source is available... feel free to fix it
  • [18:09:29] <ds2> all it should do is take the macro and write it to the PADCONF register
  • [18:09:57] <emeb> Seems simple enough. Have others tried and failed, or just that no one has tried?
  • [18:10:08] <ds2> don't think anyone has cared
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  • [18:10:28] <ds2> all the comments I have seen are - use u-boot for convenience and assorted paraphasings of that
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  • [18:11:01] <koen> it goes like this "hmm, pinmux broken, let's fix it" a few days later: "screw it, I'll just update uboot"
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  • [18:11:28] <emeb> Is uboot a lot easier to patch than the kernel code?
  • [18:11:53] <ds2> sort of, if you are into that kind of thing ;)
  • [18:12:19] <emeb> I do a lot of embedded ARM stuff, so I am into that. It's been years since I did kernel hacking though.
  • [18:12:54] <ds2> U-boot, IMO just isn't practical despite all the hacks floating around to make it appear practical
  • [18:13:07] <ds2> but I'll hush before starting a philisophical war here ;)
  • [18:13:23] <emeb> (worked on oss sound drivers in the 2.4 kernel)
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  • [18:13:51] <emeb> Well fixing the kernel does seem more elegant than patching the loader.
  • [18:14:12] <emeb> when has elegance ever been a priority though? :)
  • [18:14:14] <ds2> there are different schools of thoughts on that
  • [18:14:58] <ds2> I just think it is nice to have a kernel that works regardless of your bootloader so you don't force people to figure out how to create the MLO/u-boot.bin SD cards...but then I am also one that likes to flash things into NAND too :D
  • [18:15:44] <emeb> I'm with you on that. You shouldn't have to reflash fundamental stuff to change the I/O configs.
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  • [18:16:10] <emeb> userland code should be able to control without reboot.
  • [18:16:26] * koen has a few beagles running completely from flash
  • [18:17:37] <sakoman__> ds2: looks right if you are using CS0 for spi
  • [18:18:02] <ds2> sakoman_: yep. and for loopback, CS0 doesn't even matter
  • [18:18:05] <sakoman__> however one thing looks strange
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  • [18:18:52] <sakoman__> line ending for lines 12, 13, 14, and 18 look like they are clipped
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  • [18:19:08] <sakoman__> I assume that this is some artifact of your cut/paste process?
  • [18:19:10] <ds2> yes they are, I am pasting this from a screen session that is not wrapping
  • [18:19:21] <sakoman__> otherwise you would likely be getting a compile error
  • [18:19:25] <ds2> cuz the current code won't even compile if it was really like that :D
  • [18:19:43] <sakoman__> agreed - leave no stone unturned, though
  • [18:20:45] <sakoman__> what code are you using for the loopback test?
  • [18:20:45] <ds2> there been other people on that thread that claim it still doesn't work despite your change
  • [18:20:57] <ds2> spidev_test from Documentation/spi
  • [18:21:08] <sakoman__> so exactly what Crofton did
  • [18:21:18] <ds2> CS0 wiggles, MOSI wiggles, CLK wiggles
  • [18:21:36] <sakoman__> did you check to make sure you enabled the same kconfig options that he did?
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  • [18:22:02] <ds2> I think so... SPIDEV is compiled at attached (sysfs confirmed it)
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  • [18:23:05] <davet> anyone got a link for using windows CE on BB?
  • [18:23:11] <ds2> given the other failures, I am strongly suspecting the Mcspi driver
  • [18:23:29] <ds2> there is code in there to disable and enable receive
  • [18:23:55] <ds2> failing that, I am ready to fall back to spi_gpio... for a TSC2046 ;)
  • [18:24:18] <sakoman__> I also assume you made the appropriate changes to board-beagle.c?
  • [18:24:18] * ds2 waits for the comments about doing that + power management + running from battery
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  • [18:24:30] <ds2> sakoman__: yep.
  • [18:24:47] <ds2> confirmed that by looking at sysfs to make sure things are being attached to a driver
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  • [18:25:05] <sakoman__> the fact that it works for some people and not others is really disturbing
  • [18:25:18] <sakoman__> board rev differences???
  • [18:25:27] <ds2> it is like there is some uninitialized register
  • [18:25:30] <sakoman__> I'm afraid to try :-)
  • [18:25:46] <ds2> per the designer, that hasn't changed
  • [18:25:57] <sakoman__> I currently happily using spi1 on overo
  • [18:25:57] <ds2> and what's more this is the same on both McSPI4 and McSPI3
  • [18:26:16] <ds2> I'd if someone would run traces out from the balls
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  • [18:29:54] <NishanthMenon> ds2: one dumb question -> is tsc2046 soldered right?
  • [18:30:06] <NishanthMenon> i mean, you expect bits from tsc2046 rt?
  • [18:30:24] <sakoman__> NishanthMenon: I think he is doing a loopback test right now
  • [18:30:31] <NishanthMenon> and the fact that gpio send pins out..
  • [18:30:47] <NishanthMenon> k.. might be good to have a scope on MI...
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  • [18:31:11] <ds2> NishanthMenon: yes, it is soldered right per visual inspection
  • [18:31:23] <NishanthMenon> scope telleth the truth :D
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  • [18:31:46] <ds2> I know the 2046 is receiving cuz it drives the PENDOWN line low after some initialization (so it received SPI commands)
  • [18:32:06] <NishanthMenon> read reg probably is failing
  • [18:32:23] <ds2> probally cuz the receive line isn't returning data
  • [18:32:24] <NishanthMenon> which means if you probe the in pin during read op, the line should toggle.
  • [18:32:46] <NishanthMenon> then u can easily isolate before or after the wire ;)
  • [18:33:02] <ds2> yep, it does. but I have an analog scope so I can't tell what was sent
  • [18:33:18] <NishanthMenon> k.. same point u probed when you toggled omap gpio..
  • [18:33:35] <ds2> yep. it all comes in through a 0.1" header so probing is easy
  • [18:33:49] <NishanthMenon> cool.. ok somewhere inside omap.. :(
  • [18:33:51] <ds2> my board just hangs off the 0.1 header making it easy to seperate
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  • [18:34:17] <ds2> I really do not like the intermittient success reports
  • [18:34:18] <NishanthMenon> aaah... line length+ connector = capacitance = signal skew ;)
  • [18:34:23] <davet> will a USB hub work directly with the BB, or do I need to do something? i have tried both mini A and mini B adapters
  • [18:34:25] <NishanthMenon> edge?
  • [18:34:52] <ds2> I have tried running it at about 1500Hz so i don't think skew is significant at this point ;)
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  • [18:35:04] <NishanthMenon> davet, http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OTG
  • [18:35:14] <davet> read that already
  • [18:35:32] <NishanthMenon> davet, handled the id pin?
  • [18:35:51] <NishanthMenon> ds2, hmm... 1500hz too low for tsc2046 spec?
  • [18:36:04] <NishanthMenon> ds2, i have'nt checked
  • [18:36:08] <ds2> NishanthMenon: that was for loopback
  • [18:36:24] <ds2> if it doesn't pass loopback sanity, I think I am wasting time on the 2046
  • [18:36:29] <davet> so a mini A still needs to be modified?
  • [18:36:29] <NishanthMenon> hmmm
  • [18:36:39] <ds2> the 2046 part usually just works... it did on the SDP, Zoom and the EVM
  • [18:36:55] <NishanthMenon> davet, many "mini a"s comes with just 4 pin.. id pin maynot be handled..
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  • [18:37:29] <ds2> there are 5 pin and 4 pin mini A's; 5 pins SHOULD handle it
  • [18:37:32] <NishanthMenon> ds2, yes. something else is goofing up i agree.. trying to think the usual reasons..
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  • [18:40:07] <NishanthMenon> ds2, dumb question - did you check the register directly?
  • [18:40:23] <ds2> NishanthMenon: which register?
  • [18:40:27] <NishanthMenon> data in?
  • [18:40:38] <ds2> no, I was trusting the mcspi driver; that is the next step
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  • [18:40:53] <ds2> printk the data in, printk chcon, printk syst
  • [18:40:59] <NishanthMenon> hmm... might be good to do that from u-boot perhaps..
  • [18:41:20] * NishanthMenon is agast at his own suggestion.. tooo many mws to do :(
  • [18:41:24] <ds2> i know the kernel better then u-boot so printk's are easier
  • [18:41:35] <NishanthMenon> k
  • [18:41:56] <ds2> I know hw diag guys that prefers the U-booth method for its simplicity
  • [18:42:14] * NishanthMenon used to do csst == h/w diags ;)
  • [18:42:27] <ds2> ah I see
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  • [18:42:31] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [18:42:42] <davet> i can currently use 1 device with a miniusb A that has 5 pins, but when i switch to hub it doesn't work at all
  • [18:43:42] <NishanthMenon> davet, is the hub self powered or bus powered == are you providing extra power supply for the hub?
  • [18:43:49] <davet> self powered
  • [18:43:50] <ds2> davet: cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc.0/mode
  • [18:44:12] <ds2> and /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc.0/vbus
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  • [18:44:26] <davet> ds2: what does that mean?
  • [18:44:43] <davet> commands from serial?
  • [18:44:50] <ds2> login on the beagle and type "cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc.0/mode" it shows what the driver thinks the USB port is set to
  • [18:44:51] <NishanthMenon> davet, boot to kernel, run cat commands from serial port
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  • [18:46:09] <davet> ok... will try
  • [18:46:23] <koen> you mean /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
  • [18:46:27] <NishanthMenon> ds2, cya later..
  • [18:46:37] <ds2> NishanthMenon: later, thanks for all the suggestions.
  • [18:46:53] <ds2> koen: it depends on the kernel version but that's another way it can appear
  • [18:47:00] <emeb> ds2: are you writing in-kernel code for SPI?
  • [18:47:06] <NishanthMenon> ds2, sorry that i could not be of much help.. hope others help..
  • [18:47:09] <ds2> emeb: yep.
  • [18:47:11] <NishanthMenon> bye..
  • [18:47:18] <ds2> sanity checking is always a good help
  • [18:47:34] <emeb> If you're in kernel, why can't your code access the pinmux control regs?
  • [18:47:52] <ds2> emeb: I can.. but there is a "proper" infrastructure to do it and that is broq
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  • [18:48:17] <emeb> Understand - but for debugging it's ok to violate proper channels.
  • [18:48:26] <ds2> yes
  • [18:48:33] <ds2> but for debugging, I can hack u-boot :D
  • [18:48:56] <emeb> just stomp dem regs & damn the torpedoes.
  • [18:49:02] <ds2> board bring up is always fun and I am only about 25% into it
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  • [18:49:19] <ds2> still got I2C2 to get working along with the DSS signals
  • [18:49:23] <emeb> so it's easier to bail out of linux & into u-boot while writing your spi code?
  • [18:49:40] <emeb> I2C is more 'fun' than SPI
  • [18:49:49] <ds2> No, I set it in U-boot once and just leave it be
  • [18:49:51] <emeb> all that crazy state to keep track of
  • [18:50:11] <ds2> i2c is has been better tested then spi
  • [18:50:16] <emeb> OK - what uboot sets the kernel won't change?
  • [18:51:04] <ds2> in theory the PADCONF registers
  • [18:51:07] <emeb> eg - in linux check that the pinmux regs are set as you expect.
  • [18:51:21] <emeb> make sure something broq didn't stomp them
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  • [18:52:51] <ds2> yep, that's on the list
  • [18:53:03] <davet> cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode -> a_host
  • [18:53:15] <ds2> the fact that it didn't toggle after linux booted suggests it is not being stomped on but checking is good
  • [18:53:20] <ds2> davet: what about vbus?
  • [18:53:35] <davet> Vbus off, timeout 1100
  • [18:53:49] <ds2> Hmmm I guess that is okay
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  • [18:53:53] <emeb> Cool. Good luck with your debug - I hope to ride your coattails after C2 comes out & I get a board.
  • [18:54:16] <ds2> davet: it should work.... try rebuilding your kernel w/o OTG?
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  • [18:54:31] <ds2> (Device Drivers -> USB -> Inventra Mode -> Host Only
  • [18:54:33] <ds2> )
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  • [18:58:36] <davet> does it matter if hub is connected when i type those commands in? i only had a mouse connected when i get did that
  • [18:58:53] <ds2> it should be connected
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  • [18:59:06] <davet> ok well i reconnected it and it threw me into some loop
  • [18:59:18] <ds2> what's the loop message?
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  • [18:59:44] <davet> ok this time it didn't do the loop
  • [18:59:51] <davet> for mode -> b_idle
  • [19:00:10] <davet> vbus -> Vbus off, timeout 1100
  • [19:00:16] <ds2> b_idle is bad
  • [19:01:11] <davet> how bad?
  • [19:01:59] <Phredator> hey does anyone use Code Composer Studio to dev for the BeagleBoard?
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  • [19:02:14] <ds2> b == your board is in device ("gadget") mode
  • [19:02:19] <ds2> i.e. ID pin is floating
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  • [19:02:36] <ds2> or you got a OTG request to become a device
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  • [19:04:03] <davet> why does it do it with hub and not a single device?
  • [19:04:17] <ds2> it shouldn't, hence the reason it is bad
  • [19:04:29] <ds2> A = host, B = device
  • [19:04:42] <davet> yeah
  • [19:04:43] <ds2> if it is, you might not have a mini A cable but a mini B
  • [19:05:04] <ds2> they make and sell mini B to full size female A's (the N8x0/770 needs them)
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  • [19:05:33] <ds2> and for some reason some import electronic devices also uses them probally to save a few cents on BOM costs to avoid using a miniA or miniAB jack
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  • [19:05:51] <ds2> please verify your connector with an image
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  • [19:09:12] <davet> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FRHVQ?&tag=shopwiki-us-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325
  • [19:09:18] <davet> this is the package that I have
  • [19:09:47] <ds2> I have that package
  • [19:10:04] <ds2> not sure if there was a mini A in there
  • [19:10:28] <davet> it comes with 2 mini As
  • [19:10:54] <ds2> that's not my recollection
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  • [19:11:28] <davet> the two in the top left and mini A
  • [19:11:39] <ds2> btw,those are pretty crappy connectors; I had the shell of the B connector stuck on a board
  • [19:11:57] <ds2> come to think of it, you are right... but only one of them works
  • [19:12:10] <davet> i have another mini B from a different package
  • [19:12:18] <ds2> had to cover one of them with white out so I know which one is that works
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  • [19:13:55] <davet> yeah, i had the same problem
  • [19:14:40] <davet> one of the mini A's was a 4-pin
  • [19:15:10] <ds2> best thing to try, IMO, is to rebuild kernel w/o OTG
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  • [19:15:24] <ds2> got to go
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  • [19:15:41] <davet> ok, thanks for your help
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  • [19:28:52] <mib_8xzvgh> hello everybody. anybody into booting WIN CE on BeagleBoard?
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  • [19:30:00] <mpoullet1> I'm trying to do a packaged-staging build of console-image, it almost works...
  • [19:30:27] <mib_8xzvgh> currently no nk,bin files that just works for a demo ?
  • [19:30:47] <mpoullet1> but at the end of the second build, I've got an error: http://pastebin.com/d651207a3
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  • [19:31:32] <mib_8xzvgh> i see some companies has ready BSP, are they jsut photosop or real ?
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  • [19:31:48] <florian> re
  • [19:31:49] <mib_8xzvgh> photosop-> photoshop
  • [19:33:56] <mib_8xzvgh> i would liek to run some ready apps on beagle board and i dont have expertise to develop a BSP to make Win CE running on Beagle, do you have any idea how much will it cost to get a ready bsp ?
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  • [19:36:08] <likewise> mib_8xzvgh: tell me, how can you photoshop a BSP?
  • [19:36:31] <likewise> mib_8xzvgh: we always thought it needed compilers and stuff.
  • [19:36:56] <mru> what *is* a bsp exactly?
  • [19:36:57] <mib_8xzvgh> i did nto see the BSP , jsut saw a video on google, thats all
  • [19:37:08] * mru has never knowingly used one
  • [19:37:15] <mib_8xzvgh> board support package
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  • [19:37:22] <mru> yeah, but what is it?
  • [19:37:34] <florian> mib_8iews2: uh... why a ce bsp?
  • [19:37:36] <likewise> mru: it's some binary dump of something that should work, but never does.
  • [19:37:47] <mru> ah, that's why I've never used one then
  • [19:37:48] <likewise> mru: that's why we love source code so much in our world
  • [19:37:56] <mib_8xzvgh> it is a set of source fiels that helps you to build a windows ce image
  • [19:38:27] <mib_8xzvgh> fiels --> files
  • [19:38:44] <mib_8xzvgh> a windows ce image is basically an operating system that you create for your device to run .
  • [19:38:46] <likewise> mib_8xzvgh: ah so it's a board selfdestruct package?
  • [19:38:48] <florian> likewise: heh.. don't forget about bad documentation or was the lack of documentation part of the bsp definition? ;)
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  • [19:39:27] <likewise> mib_8xzvgh: run away you mean?
  • [19:39:35] <mru> so it's like an sdk but goes onto the board?
  • [19:39:41] <florian> mib_8iews2: Use Linux - its faster, cheaper, more reliable and well supported on the beagle :)
  • [19:39:55] <mru> i.e. some weird stuff you get from vendors that never works
  • [19:40:06] <florian> mru: you got it
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  • [19:40:23] <mib_8xzvgh> well it is a SDK, that you use in your Platform Builder. Platform builder is a sort of "Windows CE image maker"
  • [19:40:28] <likewise> mru: no you do not just get it, you first pay, then come to the conclusion it doesn't work. *then* you have to pay for support.
  • [19:40:31] * florian just saw another great example for a bad bsp by Freescale
  • [19:40:47] <likewise> florian: whihc one? arm?
  • [19:40:54] <mib_8xzvgh> ohh Freescale BSP' sthat is how i hated BSP thing :)
  • [19:41:31] <mib_8xzvgh> about Linux I have doubts
  • [19:41:41] <florian> likewise: yes... for the official eval kit
  • [19:41:50] <mib_8xzvgh> for example is there any Navigation software ?
  • [19:42:06] <mib_8xzvgh> such as iGo?
  • [19:42:12] <florian> mib_8iews2: sure...
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  • [19:42:51] <mib_8xzvgh> sounds interesting, can you name osme of them ?
  • [19:42:55] <mib_8xzvgh> some of them ?
  • [19:44:06] <florian> mib_8iews2: at least tomtom and nokia have their navigation solutions running on linux devices
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  • [19:44:26] <mib_8xzvgh> well they have their solutions but i wan tto use a ready solution to run on my device
  • [19:44:27] <florian> and some other company, that thingy shipped with the ezx phones...
  • [19:44:37] <mib_8xzvgh> i am not tomtom neither nokia to develop my own ;)
  • [19:45:10] <mib_8xzvgh> but if i have win CE i can easily run iGo
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  • [19:46:10] <florian> mib_8iews2: any solution you'll have to pay for
  • [19:46:25] <mib_8xzvgh> paying is not the issue...
  • [19:46:43] <mib_8xzvgh> but as far as i knwo there is no such commercial software runs on linux as a navigation solution
  • [19:46:50] <mib_8xzvgh> but there are plenty for win ce.
  • [19:47:07] <florian> mib_8iews2: there are more for sure
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  • [19:47:58] <mib_8xzvgh> so it seems i desperetly need win ce bsp for beagle
  • [19:48:13] <mib_8xzvgh> any idea how to get one ? and the cost?
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  • [19:55:24] <Phredator> I've got my beagle setup with Angstrom
  • [19:55:33] <Phredator> looking to do some NEON and DSP coding
  • [19:55:40] <Phredator> and maybe get some OpenGL ES going too
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  • [21:09:46] <coreyfro> So the BB has 3 uarts, anyone bit bang with much success to get more?
  • [21:09:58] <coreyfro> not uarts, but serial ports
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  • [21:13:02] <ds2> sync? async? random?
  • [21:13:22] <ds2> FDX? HDX?
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  • [21:17:15] <coreyfro> Just what one would expect from RS232.
  • [21:17:36] <Lo_Pan> nod
  • [21:17:41] <ds2> send and receive?
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  • [21:18:34] <coreyfro> yup
  • [21:18:38] <coreyfro> soft serial
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  • [21:25:04] <ds2> donno of anyone doing that... but for sends, you might be able to hack up something to use like the McSPI
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  • [21:39:48] <sakoman__> ds2: any progress with spi?
  • [21:40:27] <mru> sakoman__: he's suggesting others to use it...
  • [21:41:01] <mru> so either it's working, and he thinks it's useful, or he's hoping to get someone else to fix it
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  • [21:42:57] <sakoman__> misery loves company!
  • [21:45:34] <ds2> the more people hacking at it, the better chance there is a solution
  • [21:45:55] <ds2> it is the many monkeys hitting at typewriters solution to generating the works of shakesphere method :D
  • [21:46:15] <ds2> sakoman_: no access to the board til after 8 tonight
  • [21:47:15] <ds2> WANTED: Monkeys to tap on keyboard to write better driver code.
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  • [21:48:06] <sakoman__> if I get a bit of time later I will try to replicate your issue
  • [21:48:20] <sakoman__> I fear that it may end up like last time :-)
  • [21:48:25] <julianoliver> anyone here using OpenCV on the Beagle Board?
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  • [21:50:15] <ds2> ah but this time we have schematics!
  • [21:51:07] <ZeZu> what driver are the monkeys supposed to work on ?
  • [21:51:14] <ds2> any driver
  • [21:51:18] <ZeZu> ah
  • [21:51:26] <ds2> we need lots lots lots of monkeys
  • [21:51:43] <ZeZu> I'd love to work on a powervr driver actually, but the source that is there for it now is scary
  • [21:51:55] <ZeZu> its so ugly and spread out i have a difficult time understanding it
  • [21:52:04] <ds2> get it cleaned up and pushed up stream
  • [21:52:13] <ds2> hmmm that might be a useful GSoC project
  • [21:52:28] <ZeZu> get me the docs for it, and i'll rewrite it quicker than i could do that
  • [21:52:33] <ds2> a student as mailing list flame bait... Hmmmm
  • [21:57:18] <ds2> might be easier for you to as a person go raise the cash and just buy Imagination outright then to try to get the docs ;)
  • [22:01:26] <coreyfro> Thanks DS2
  • [22:01:48] * lcuk has some pocketchange
  • [22:01:59] <ds2> speaking of which, the McSPI send works well enough to do that... so :P
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  • [22:32:42] <mib_uc5tfj> I've got a usb extender.....but do I need to get a different type of an adapter to plug into beagle?
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  • [22:39:12] <davet> anyone that has a webcam working for BB, did it come with linux drivers or did you do it yourself?
  • [22:41:19] <davet> i specifically need a webcam that has Infrared
  • [22:41:22] <ds2> don't think any webcam ships with Linux drivers
  • [22:41:55] <davet> how do i modify drivers to work with linux?
  • [22:42:12] <ds2> some cameras have drivers for Linux but they don't ship with the camera
  • [22:43:41] <davet> yeah i tried to find linux drivers for the webcam i have, no luck yet
  • [22:44:30] <ds2> the gspca driver didn't work? and it is not UVC?
  • [22:44:57] <julianoliver> davet: check the uvcvideo page. a heap of cameras work OOTB on Linux now.
  • [22:45:13] <Russ> are any v4l drivers included in the default angstrom kernel?
  • [22:45:22] <julianoliver> davet: many cameras, in other words, are supported on a modern kernel.
  • [22:45:24] <julianoliver> Russ: yes
  • [22:45:33] <julianoliver> uvcvideo is onboard
  • [22:45:48] <julianoliver> davet: look at 'dmesg' output and see if the camera was, in fact, detected.
  • [22:46:33] <julianoliver> davet: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
  • [22:46:34] <davet> i actually haven't tried it with BB, i am first trying with Ubuntu because i figured it would be easier to first try
  • [22:47:25] <Russ> davet: what camera is it?
  • [22:47:38] <davet> icatch
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  • [22:49:33] <Russ> and so you plug it in, and....
  • [22:49:52] <davet> nothing...
  • [22:50:17] <Russ> does lsusb list it?
  • [22:50:40] <Russ> maybe ID 17a1:0128?
  • [22:52:04] <davet> didn't list
  • [22:52:38] <Russ> do lsusb before and after plugging in the camera and post the line that gets added
  • [22:52:57] <davet> ok
  • [22:53:23] <davet> uvcvideo
  • [22:53:26] <davet> woops
  • [22:53:27] <julianoliver> davet: you can also plug it in and 'dmesg | grep video'
  • [22:53:35] <davet> Bus 002 Device 033: ID 1c4f:3000
  • [22:53:39] <Russ> julianoliver: I don't think linux even knows the vendor ID
  • [22:53:55] <davet> yeah its a cheapo camera, but it does what we need it to do
  • [22:54:08] <davet> except work with linux...
  • [22:54:20] <julianoliver> davet: mplayer -cache 128 -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video1:width=320:height=240 -vo xv tv://
  • [22:54:53] <Russ> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-uvc-devel@lists.berlios.de/msg02860.html <- looks like dmesg would be interesting
  • [22:55:01] <julianoliver> if that doesn't work, change it to driver=v4l1
  • [22:55:03] <davet> gotta get mplayer first
  • [22:55:09] <julianoliver> hehe righto
  • [22:57:42] <mib_uc5tfj> anyone having trouble connecting USB extenders to beagle?
  • [22:58:12] <mib_uc5tfj> I'm having problems getting my keyboard/mouse working....I know my fs is good.
  • [22:58:30] <julianoliver> mib_uc5tfj: usb hub or usb extension?
  • [22:58:38] <Russ> that camera has been in the UVC quirks table since UVC was merged
  • [22:58:43] <Russ> davet: what kernel driver are you running?
  • [22:58:52] <mib_uc5tfj> hub
  • [22:59:00] <julianoliver> mib_uc5tfj: usb hubs have to powered. i found that out the hard way.
  • [22:59:11] <mib_uc5tfj> yeah mine is powered
  • [22:59:16] <julianoliver> oh.. odd.
  • [22:59:32] <mib_uc5tfj> what type of connecter do you have going out of USB and into your Hub?
  • [22:59:43] <Russ> mib_uc5tfj: musb seems to be flakey, is everything already plugged in when you boot?
  • [22:59:45] <julianoliver> USB -> USB mini
  • [23:00:13] <mib_uc5tfj> mini A or mini B is the question
  • [23:00:39] <mib_uc5tfj> mine looks like its a mini B although...not sure how to tell
  • [23:00:50] <julianoliver> mib_uc5tfj: i can't remember. i'm not near my bb right now.
  • [23:00:52] <Russ> mini a's usually have a A printed on them
  • [23:01:10] <ds2> except for those that don't :/
  • [23:01:28] <mib_uc5tfj> mine doesnt have anything written
  • [23:01:29] <Russ> just like NULL modem cables
  • [23:02:16] <davet> what command do i use for kernel?
  • [23:02:20] <Russ> uname -a
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  • [23:02:44] <davet> 2.6.27-11
  • [23:02:57] <Russ> o, that was before UVC was merged
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  • [23:03:38] <Russ> davet: modinfo -F version uvcvideo
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  • [23:04:50] <davet> V0.1.0
  • [23:04:56] <Russ> thats good
  • [23:05:06] <Russ> does dmesg | grep uvcvideo spit out a bunch of stuff
  • [23:05:12] <davet> and trying the mplayer didn't work
  • [23:05:39] <davet> about 20 lines
  • [23:05:45] <davet> failed to query
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  • [23:05:48] <Russ> thats because you probably want mplayer -cache 128 -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:width=320:height=240 -vo xv tv://
  • [23:06:02] <Russ> not /dev/video1
  • [23:06:51] <davet> no stream found
  • [23:07:35] <Russ> does all the dmesg output look good?
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  • [23:08:46] <davet> dmesg?
  • [23:08:56] <Russ> dmesg | grep uvcvideo
  • [23:09:22] <davet> still failed to query
  • [23:09:47] <davet> is says found UVC 1.00 device USB web camera
  • [23:09:51] <Russ> can you put that dmesg output on pastebin
  • [23:10:37] <Russ> actually, another simple test. run cheese
  • [23:11:05] <davet> another one of those gotta get's
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  • [23:15:12] <davet> cheese is some type of video software
  • [23:15:14] <davet> ?
  • [23:16:13] <Russ> yes, its a very simple app that displays the output from a camera
  • [23:17:19] <davet> "Message: Error: Stream contains no data."
  • [23:17:25] <Russ> interesting
  • [23:17:32] <Russ> pastebin that dmesg output then
  • [23:17:44] <ds2> this is with OE or some other kernel?
  • [23:18:17] <Russ> ds2: ubuntu 8.10 kernel
  • [23:18:30] <ds2> I wonder if the MUSB patches are not there then
  • [23:18:41] <ds2> it almost seems like broken highspeed ISO handling
  • [23:18:49] <Russ> this is on x86
  • [23:18:59] <ds2> Oh not Ubuntu/ARM...nevermind
  • [23:19:52] <davet> yeah right now I am testing webcam on laptop linux before BB
  • [23:22:31] <davet> otherwise i will have to attempt to get CE on BB
  • [23:22:46] <davet> has anyone tried embedded XP?
  • [23:23:16] <ds2> do not use it.
  • [23:23:25] <davet> XP or CE?
  • [23:23:26] <Russ> has anyone else tried shoving bamboo under their fingernails?
  • [23:23:29] <ds2> either
  • [23:23:35] <davet> haha
  • [23:23:42] <ds2> calling XP embedded is like calling a Sports 18wheeler truck.
  • [23:23:58] <ds2> and Crappy Edition is well... crappy
  • [23:24:03] <davet> yeah
  • [23:24:24] <davet> i either need this webcam to work or find another IR webcam to work
  • [23:24:39] <davet> money isn't really an object, its for a school project
  • [23:24:39] <ds2> it should work... tried svv?
  • [23:24:55] <Russ> hey, at least CE supports more than 5 processes at once and more than 64k memory per process now in CE 6.0 or whatever the arcane limitation was
  • [23:25:17] <Russ> davet: did you pastebin your dmesg output yet?
  • [23:25:23] <ds2> and 4 of them are system processes? :D
  • [23:25:50] <davet> do you want me to do dmesg while cheese is running?
  • [23:26:02] <Russ> no, just all the spew from plugging in the camera
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  • [23:28:12] <davet> i am having trouble with pastebin... gonna be a sec
  • [23:30:07] <davet> there
  • [23:31:14] <vlad_> Russ: 32mb slot per process without jumping through hoops!
  • [23:31:35] <vlad_> though to be fair, I'm kinda liking CE6
  • [23:31:37] <vlad_> it's pretty snappy
  • [23:31:44] <vlad_> I'd like to get a BSP that works on the beagle though
  • [23:32:22] <ds2> would you also like to run an 18wheeler mack truck in the Indi 500?
  • [23:32:31] <davet> you got CE working?
  • [23:33:53] <mru> ds2: ;-)
  • [23:34:33] <mru> ds2: yes, in reverse with the handbrake on
  • [23:34:34] <vlad_> davet: not on the beagle, no
  • [23:34:46] <vlad_> ds2: sure, just run it right over every other car
  • [23:34:48] <davet> ds2 & russ: i got cheese to work with another webcam on BB
  • [23:34:50] <vlad_> it wouldn't even be a fair fight!
  • [23:34:52] * mru has never seen ce working
  • [23:35:16] <mru> I've witnessed a diehard microsoft fan pull his hair out trying though
  • [23:35:21] <vlad_> haha
  • [23:35:24] <vlad_> what was he trying to do?
  • [23:35:24] <davet> wait not on BB, on my linux
  • [23:35:28] <mru> run CE
  • [23:35:29] <vlad_> note: windows mobile sucks
  • [23:35:47] <davet> you guys have a link for installing CE?
  • [23:35:59] <vlad_> davet: 16:34 < vlad_> davet: not on the beagle, no
  • [23:36:01] <mru> sure: file:/dev/null
  • [23:36:37] <davet> is it difficult to get CE to run?
  • [23:36:49] <mru> is it difficult for pigs to fly?
  • [23:37:05] <davet> not if you shoot it out of a cannon
  • [23:37:27] <mru> true, but it will plummet soon enough
  • [23:37:34] <davet> haha
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  • [23:37:37] <vlad_> davet: there isn't really a CE to run; when you buy/eval Platform Builder, you basically get an OS construction kit
  • [23:37:39] <davet> good point
  • [23:37:46] <vlad_> and you have to put all the pieces together yourself for your target
  • [23:37:55] <vlad_> there's no generic "Windows CE" to download
  • [23:38:14] <davet> hm... i got a couple of computer engineers that i can put into it
  • [23:38:27] <vlad_> then they should be able to do it
  • [23:38:38] <davet> thats what i am hoping
  • [23:38:40] <vlad_> I mean, you essentially have to write drivers and stuff for some of your hardware bits
  • [23:38:47] <vlad_> Special Computing has demo'd CE running on a beagleboard
  • [23:38:49] <davet> yeah
  • [23:38:59] <vlad_> but I got no answer to my email when I asked if the BSP was available
  • [23:39:48] <mru> we all know demos are fake
  • [23:39:52] <fenn> does anyone know what this is any why it's listed on the digikey beagleboard page? http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=557-1436-ND
  • [23:40:08] <fenn> "4GB NAND 2GB DDR 168-BGA"
  • [23:40:25] <mru> it's a memory chip
  • [23:40:56] <fenn> i thought the OMAP was limited to 256MB
  • [23:41:08] <mru> that is 256MB
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  • [23:42:04] <fenn> oh. sneaky electronics manufacturers..
  • [23:42:16] <mru> memory is always measured in bits
  • [23:42:23] <mru> memory chips
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  • [23:42:45] <mru> when assembled into modules (e.g. DIMM) they usually quote bytes
  • [23:44:17] <fenn> i guess i will have to get a SSD then
  • [23:44:24] <fenn> for swap space
  • [23:44:34] <mru> 8GB sd cards are cheap
  • [23:44:43] <fenn> i'm concerned it won't be fast enough
  • [23:45:03] <davet> BB supports 8 GB?
  • [23:45:19] <mru> BB supports any sdhc card afaik
  • [23:45:25] <ds2> quite obviously you do not have a big enough cannon to send the pig into orbit ;)
  • [23:45:26] <mru> I'm using 8GB cards in mine
  • [23:45:35] <davet> good to hear, that was a question i had
  • [23:45:44] <mru> ds2: there it would die from asphyxiation
  • [23:45:45] <davet> gotta go though guys... thanks for all the help
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  • [23:46:12] <Russ> mru: I think the cannon would liquify the pig
  • [23:46:15] <ds2> actually, there is a commercial kit for CE on Beagle, IIRC
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