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  • [03:26:29] <jkridner> lots of press coming out of Mobile World Congress this week.
  • [03:30:50] <Pavlov> yep
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  • [06:28:19] <jsync> //list
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  • [07:42:15] <erbo> if I want to use the "real" tools instead of the busybox package, what package should I look for?
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  • [07:47:35] <keesj> erbo: a lot of different packages
  • [07:49:45] <erbo> keesj: ok, right now I just need the ordinary /bin/sh since some scripts don't like busybox's sh.. But I guess there will be a conflict if I include both?
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  • [07:57:17] <keesj> no not as such. /bin/sh is only a symlink. but I don't know if it's managed by the /etc/alternatives or not
  • [07:58:43] <erbo> ok, thanks
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  • [08:00:57] <koen> erbo: task-proper-tools should get you most of the tools
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  • [08:04:47] <erbo> koen: great, that seems like the meta-package for me
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  • [08:12:44] <koen> erbo: /bin/sh remains a link to busybox, since some scripts break with bash (sadly)
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  • [08:31:34] <koen> ah, omap4 finally announced
  • [08:32:12] <Pavlov> a9 based?
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  • [08:38:36] <Vincent2> Hi
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  • [08:43:12] <methril> good morning
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  • [09:00:40] <amitnux> hey guys im really stuck here..im trying to recover my beagleboard but can't seem to do it
  • [09:11:23] <recalcati> Hi
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  • [09:34:08] <tomba> omap4: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9955815446.html
  • [09:36:29] <Sinky> good morning
  • [09:36:31] <Sinky> koen
  • [09:36:32] <Sinky> I just changed the URI_SRC value in vlc.bb file and receive the following error http://stancho.com/pastebin/1581 Do you have any ideas?
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  • [09:38:58] <DJWillis> Sinky: update conf/checksums.ini with the hash information for the new URL.
  • [09:43:13] <Sinky> DJWillis how can I get the checksum ?
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  • [09:45:59] <DJWillis> Sinky: is it the same file, just another URL/Mirror?
  • [09:46:42] <Sinky> no
  • [09:46:52] <Sinky> it's a different version
  • [09:47:27] <DJWillis> Sinky: a vairent of http://rafb.net/p/h70trT73.html should get you sorted (just my local update-checksums.sh)
  • [09:51:11] <DJWillis> Sinky: that will just pull out checksums for unrecorded downloads and you can paste that into your checksums.ini.
  • [09:51:23] <Sinky> DJWillis thanks I will try
  • [10:10:15] <mru> koen: url for omap4 announcement?
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  • [10:14:57] <RogerMonk> http://www.ti.com/omap4
  • [10:18:54] <mru> so simple...
  • [10:19:03] <RogerMonk> :)
  • [10:19:32] * mru wants one
  • [10:20:47] <mru> not that this is any surprise, TI having licensed pretty much every arm core to date...
  • [10:23:05] <AV500> alas, they have learned and put a 2 channel DDR interface
  • [10:23:35] <mru> yeah, memory bandwidth is a bit lacking on omap3530
  • [10:24:35] * methril wants an omap4 too
  • [10:24:46] <methril> it could be the next beagleboard2 project? :D
  • [10:25:23] <AV500> mru: yes, it is lacking even more on Davinci
  • [10:25:29] <mru> nokia is bound to make something based on it
  • [10:25:30] <AV500> and on DM320
  • [10:25:57] <methril> they are the first to devel an cortex A9 processor
  • [10:26:36] <AV500> could be a nice price for BB contest, an Omap4 based one in 2010 :-)
  • [10:27:09] <AV500> now the only thing missing is an X86 unit :-)
  • [10:28:22] <mru> ugh
  • [10:28:36] <AV500> I truly hope the OMAP4 has a 2x DDR itnerface, coz LPDDR2 is slower them LPDDR
  • [10:28:53] <mru> wtf?
  • [10:29:54] <AV500> we run LPDDR at 166Mhz*32bit = 1.3Gb/s
  • [10:30:04] <AV500> google could not find LPDDR2 > 1Gb/s
  • [10:31:29] <AV500> and as current speed is never going to do 1080i/p, they need to really boost the speed
  • [10:36:47] <MostAwesomeDude> Strange, I could have sworn that the issue was in getting the graphics accelerator to handle that for us.
  • [10:38:10] <AV500> MostAwesomeDude: what ever accel you have, it still has to move all the data over SDRAM
  • [10:39:45] <koen> an omap4 netbook would be sweet
  • [10:39:56] <koen> but only if they use the same batteries as the x86 ones
  • [10:40:08] <MostAwesomeDude> No kidding.
  • [10:40:11] <AV500> can ARM use the same batteries as X86? :-)
  • [10:41:16] <koen> if you align them right and don't have a char interface to the terminals
  • [10:41:44] <AV500> yes, but X86 has often 3cell batteries, arm would need 4 :-)
  • [10:42:00] <AV500> or it wastes a lot of CPU to acces the 3rd cell...
  • [10:43:41] <iscape> I read the pico DLP is HVGA, 320x480 but takes VGA input 640x480: does that mean it interlaces or does it scale the image?
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  • [10:44:12] <AV500> it scales I think
  • [10:45:21] <iscape> and what input voltage does it use? I looked through all the data sheets but there is no info except that the power adapter works with 110-240V
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  • [10:46:26] <_boto> hello
  • [10:46:29] <koen> the pico takes +5V
  • [10:46:41] <koen> http://bash.org/?10131
  • [10:46:45] <iscape> oh nice
  • [10:46:48] <ldesnogu> mru: are you sure the memory bandwidth issue is not a problem of the interconnect? if so whatever is put as memory controller, if no change is done to improve the interconnect bandwidth, you'll still be limited
  • [10:49:46] <mru> ldesnogu: I'm not sure where the bottleneck is, only that there is one
  • [10:50:29] <mru> hopefully the omap4 has a faster interconnect though
  • [10:50:34] <mru> those a9 cores will need it
  • [10:51:03] <AV500> ldesnogu: whatever it is, it prevents to even use the full theoretical BW, more like 50% only
  • [10:52:56] <mru> yeah, it's very hard to achieve more than about 600 MB/s
  • [10:54:20] <eFfeM> what would be the fastest browser on beagle? only feature I really need is a fullscreen possiblity
  • [10:54:38] <eFfeM> firefox has that, but is sloooow
  • [10:54:54] <AV500> webkit
  • [10:55:23] <AV500> the one inside android looks ok on OMAP3
  • [10:56:11] <eFfeM> AV500: thanks, will give it a try
  • [10:57:02] <koen> eFfeM: try midori
  • [10:57:06] <mru> lynx on fb console ;-)
  • [10:57:28] <eFfeM> mru, thx, but i forgot that I did want gfx
  • [10:57:39] <mru> oh, well... in that case...
  • [10:57:59] <eFfeM> actually looking for something that can display the james ui (written in wt) in fullscreen
  • [10:57:59] <_boto> koen: gstreamer plugins problem still remains :-(
  • [10:58:02] <ldesnogu> mru: cortex-a9 has 1 or 2 64-bit AXI busses
  • [10:58:15] <ldesnogu> I don't know what option TI chose
  • [10:58:48] <koen> _boto: did you test my suggestion?
  • [10:58:53] <_boto> yep
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  • [10:58:56] <ldesnogu> the theoretical maximum BW is frequency * 8 * (1 or 2)
  • [10:59:03] <_boto> but it still does not work
  • [10:59:11] <mru> ldesnogu: I was just thinking that two a9 cores would easily saturate the omap3 L3 interconnect
  • [10:59:14] <_boto> i moved the packages_dynamic
  • [10:59:20] <Qball> Stupid question, the beagleb power connector, what polarity? (out - in +)
  • [10:59:24] <iscape> am wondering if it is possible to rotate the pico dlp image with xrandr ?
  • [10:59:31] <eFfeM> koen, thanks will check out midori, looks good
  • [10:59:39] <ldesnogu> mru: they should not, or the program you are running has very bad locality ;)
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  • [10:59:58] <_boto> koen: i also tried to name needed plugins in RDEPENDS, no success
  • [10:59:59] <mru> they *could* do it
  • [11:00:05] <ldesnogu> of course :)
  • [11:00:21] <mru> of course if the caches do their job it shouldn't happen too often
  • [11:00:23] <ldesnogu> anyway be sure much attention has been paid to fully exploit the AXI busses
  • [11:01:36] <ldesnogu> hum TI did not put any L2 cache on OMAP4 ?
  • [11:02:18] <koen> I heard rumours about a yuv420 capable overlay
  • [11:02:27] <mru> koen: that would be great
  • [11:02:38] <mru> ldesnogu: I don't see any mention of caches at all
  • [11:03:23] <koen> mru: but then I again, I also heards rumours about yuv420 overlays on ES3.1 omap3, which is clearly untrue
  • [11:03:44] <mru> koen: where did you hear such rumours?
  • [11:04:00] <mru> of course es3.1 doesn't have major additions like that
  • [11:04:01] <koen> internet forums
  • [11:04:02] * koen hides
  • [11:04:16] <tomba> you heard it in the internet, so it must be true!
  • [11:04:32] <koen> http://bash.org/?10131 :)
  • [11:04:32] <tomba> yuv420 would be nice
  • [11:05:27] <koen> tomba: did dss2 params change again?
  • [11:05:35] <tomba> ...yes... =(
  • [11:05:56] <tomba> I can't help it, I'm crappy coder! can't design it right in the first time
  • [11:06:30] <tomba> but I think I have updated documentation, so I'm not all bad
  • [11:06:59] <koen> ah, I can do resolutions per output device now
  • [11:07:16] <koen> omapfb.mode=dvi:800x400MR-24@60
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  • [11:16:42] <koen> _boto: could you respond to my mail to oe-devel with your findings?
  • [11:21:27] <koen> "I used a hammer, openembedded and an army of hippies in a sweatshop to put together this firmware."
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  • [11:26:56] <eFfeM> koen, midori looks nice, it can do fullscreen, but i haven't found yet how to go to fullscreen right away (without F11) maybe it requires some javascript or so
  • [11:27:20] <koen> eFfeM: maybe at-spi over dbus
  • [11:27:41] <koen> maybe 'midori -f' would work :)
  • [11:28:33] <eFfeM> at-spi over dbus is uncharted territory for me
  • [11:29:15] <koen> I'm not sure if at-spi over dbus is already present in a gtk+ release
  • [11:29:57] <eFfeM> and -f is not there Midori - Unknown option -f
  • [11:30:22] <koen> you could try mailing the author (or midori list if that exists)
  • [11:31:51] <eFfeM> i'm currently chatting in #midori
  • [11:32:02] <koen> same difference :)
  • [11:32:02] <eFfeM> lunchtime ...
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  • [11:34:11] <koen> lunch, good idea
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  • [11:54:53] <eFfeM> koen do you have a pointer on at-spi ?
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  • [11:56:30] <koen> eFfeM: http://live.gnome.org/GAP/AtSpiDbusInvestigation/
  • [11:57:08] <koen> eFfeM: it's a way to make gtk 'accesible' for e.g. blind people, but it also alllows remote widget control, e.g. sending keystrokes
  • [11:57:45] <koen> eFfeM: if all else fails you could just make a midori-fullscreen.bb that patches midori to always run fullscreen
  • [11:58:31] <koen> midori is a thin wrapper around webkit, so patching it should be too hard
  • [11:59:41] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Finally got console-image to build. The trick apparently lay in making sure that TMPDIR is named "tmp".
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  • [12:01:58] <eFfeM> koen, thanks, i'll find a solution (the other solution I am thinking of is to use e.g. javascript to go to fullscreen mode)
  • [12:02:14] <eFfeM> also based upon advice in #midori I'm now building the git version
  • [12:02:23] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: ah, I wouldn't have guessed that :/
  • [12:03:10] <eFfeM> MostAwesomeDude: there is no need to name the TMPDIR tmp, mine is named tmp_angstrom
  • [12:03:22] <eFfeM> but you can NOT rename the tmp dir
  • [12:03:47] <MostAwesomeDude> Well, at any rate, it works now. I'm currently trying to figure out how to get my kernel to build.
  • [12:03:49] <eFfeM> because the name will appear in all kind of places
  • [12:04:12] <eFfeM> MostAwesomeDude: bitbake console_image also builds the kernel
  • [12:04:22] <eFfeM> buit you can also bitbake virtual/kernel
  • [12:04:35] <MostAwesomeDude> eFfeM: I'm building a custom kernel image. It's linux-omap, but a different repo.
  • [12:04:43] <eFfeM> okie
  • [12:04:57] <koen> ncurses seems to break in certain situations, I'll advice people to name TMPDIR tmp in the future :)
  • [12:05:12] * eFfeM curses at ncurses
  • [12:05:13] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Yeah, I really just don't know why it happens.
  • [12:05:42] <eFfeM> i know I started from scratch after choosing a different tmp, rename did not work
  • [12:05:45] <DJWillis> "<koen> "I used a hammer, openembedded and an army of hippies in a sweatshop to put together this firmware."" <- Sounds like the Pandora firmware, where can I find the hippies.
  • [12:05:49] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "my-leet-kernel" in oswald.conf
  • [12:05:58] <eFfeM> but there are some comments on autobuilders that use different tmp dirs
  • [12:06:08] <koen> DJWillis: here: http://www.nas-central.org/wiki/Competition_2009-1_Entries :)
  • [12:06:08] <eFfeM> tmp_$distribution or so
  • [12:06:37] <koen> mine is /OE/anstrom-dev/
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  • [12:06:59] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Should I be working inside my oe dir, or should I make another dir and use BBFILES?
  • [12:07:33] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: overlays usually give the best seperation, but a git branch could also work
  • [12:08:10] <MostAwesomeDude> Hm. I'll just make a git branch. That sounds like a familiar, comforting thing. :3
  • [12:10:10] <DJWillis> MostAwesomeDude: use both ;-)
  • [12:20:32] <raster> eFfeM: hyour wm can handle things like that (making apps go fullscreen)
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  • [12:29:14] <eFfeM> raster, i'm running my browser on bare X, i want to use it for a webbased UI
  • [12:30:23] <raster> eFfeM: run a wm that forces fullscreen windows
  • [12:30:34] <raster> hell - write one
  • [12:30:36] <raster> its not hard
  • [12:30:40] <raster> if u are only goign to have 1 app
  • [12:30:46] <raster> and 1 usage scenario
  • [12:30:56] <jkridner> good morning all.
  • [12:31:05] <eFfeM> raster, the problem is to go to real fullscreen so no title bar etc
  • [12:31:14] <eFfeM> what you get e.g. in firefox if you press F11
  • [12:31:33] <eFfeM> so it is a little bit more than justt maximizing the app
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  • [12:40:06] <raster> yes - i know what it is :)
  • [12:40:11] <raster> i write wm's :)
  • [12:40:16] <raster> a wm can do it
  • [12:41:35] <psharma> hey i have downloaded the images from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ n followed all the steps correctly
  • [12:42:08] <psharma> i can see the beagle.org logo on my hdmi screen before the kernel gets loaded
  • [12:42:31] <psharma> but after the kernel loads i get "no signal " on the screen
  • [12:42:43] <psharma> can nebody plz help me on this
  • [12:43:35] <jkridner> you'll want to set a resolution supported by your monitor.
  • [12:43:44] <psharma> can somebody plz spare a moment
  • [12:43:44] <jkridner> do so by setting the bootargs.
  • [12:43:52] <psharma> ok
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  • [12:44:28] <psharma> i am using the follwoing bootargs"setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M'
  • [12:45:39] <psharma> these are the ones given on angstrom's link
  • [12:45:55] <jkridner> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Display_resolutions_.231
  • [12:46:03] <psharma> thanks
  • [12:46:07] <jkridner> the syntax has changed.
  • [12:46:31] <jkridner> see the notes at the bottom of the entry.
  • [12:46:53] <Qball> hmm any tips on where I can get a usb otg cable?
  • [12:47:04] <psharma> ok
  • [12:47:41] <jkridner> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/115867f718b52e4b/4c64b2c614622053?lnk=gst&q=documentation+omap+dss#4c64b2c614622053
  • [12:47:56] <koen> DJWillis: did you see the devmem2 trick to make the sgx go faster?
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  • [12:54:44] <psharma> even if the resolution is not accurate i shuld be able to see atlleast something on the display?
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  • [13:27:30] <DJWillis> koen: I did, not really used it other then to make sure it works ok (may bake the trick in if people start to use OGLES/OVG on the Pandora). It works fine for what I need and there was some other more pressing stuff.
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  • [14:03:24] <sakoman> good morning
  • [14:04:22] <khasim> sakoman: good morning
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  • [14:31:22] <delire> i've just ordered a couple of beagle boards for use in a computer vision project here in the EU. it seems that the 'Super Media Store' doesn't ship to the EU. specifically i'm after the Power, Ethernet Adaptor and USB hub all-in-one device: http://www.supermediastore.com/gwc-usb-2-0-3-port-hub-ethernet-adapter.html
  • [14:31:39] <delire> does any European know where i could pick up one of those locally?
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  • [14:51:46] <koen> sakoman: don't the pandora people have a PWM driver? their backlight is hooked up to a PWN AIUI
  • [14:52:55] <khasim> I have a problem :
  • [14:53:21] <khasim> with USB tty support in u-boot, when I try to confirgure the OTG port as HOST in kernel - it doesnt work any more
  • [14:53:39] <khasim> any suggestions ?
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  • [14:54:34] <mru> sounds like the kernel isn't configuring everything
  • [14:55:04] <mru> are you configuring it for otg or pure host mode?
  • [14:55:14] <khasim> mru: OTG
  • [14:55:40] <mru> can you force a switch to gadget mode and back to host?
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  • [14:57:46] <khasim> gadget mode works fine
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  • [14:58:03] <khasim> when I boot for host it doesn't
  • [14:58:31] <mru> can you switch mode after booting?
  • [14:58:33] <khasim> Actually dynamic switching of OTG to HOST was not working before as well
  • [14:58:43] <mru> ok
  • [14:58:52] <khasim> I am not sure if some one had tried it.
  • [14:59:36] <mru> sounds like something in the host mode setup relies on reset values or so
  • [14:59:53] <khasim> mru: yes, this is my guess as well.
  • [15:00:11] <mru> what if you hack u-boot to reset the musb just before booting the kernel
  • [15:00:28] * mru has no idea how much or little effort that would take
  • [15:00:37] <khasim> :) yeah I was looking for a command
  • [15:00:53] <khasim> that triggers reset of MUSB before booting
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  • [15:09:05] <khasim> mw 0x480AB404 0x100A 1
  • [15:09:09] <khasim> this makes things work
  • [15:11:19] <khasim> Don't we do a SOFTRESET in kernel driver?
  • [15:12:52] <mru> no idea
  • [15:14:15] <koen> tony is of the "bootloader sets up everything" camp
  • [15:14:23] <mru> oh no...
  • [15:14:29] <mru> that's a bad position to take
  • [15:14:29] <koen> rmk is of the "bootloaders suck, do setup in kernel" camp
  • [15:14:44] <mru> *some* things are best done by the boot loader
  • [15:14:56] <koen> mru: yeah, lately there have been efforts to do more stuff in the kernel for omap
  • [15:15:06] <Crofton|work> try dealing with the pinmux and the beagle expansion connector ...
  • [15:16:52] * khasim looking for a musb driver expert
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  • [15:19:44] <sakoman> khasim: I've been having issues with OTG mode on musb too
  • [15:20:16] <sakoman> Inserting an OTG cable does not trigger a switch to host mode
  • [15:20:26] <mru> pure gadget mode is working fine here
  • [15:20:33] <mru> I have no need for anything else
  • [15:20:45] <AV500> pure host mode is also fine here :-)
  • [15:20:54] <timtimwork> mine in host never works after a reset unless i unplug it.
  • [15:21:07] <sakoman> I'm not using a USB enabled u-boot, just the stock u-boot
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  • [15:21:11] <mru> apparently the kernel has issues switching from gadget to host
  • [15:21:26] <timtimwork> on top of generic USB crapping out issues when it is working.
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  • [15:21:31] <AV500> that's why we have 2 usb connectors and slap the kernel over the head :-)
  • [15:21:31] <sakoman> seems so
  • [15:21:55] <AV500> seems like it was a good choice to not believe in OTG
  • [15:22:32] * mru wouldn't believe in anything with such a silly name
  • [15:22:47] <AV500> well :-)
  • [15:22:56] <sakoman> koen: the pwm stuff doesn't seem to exist in Pandora code in linux-omap
  • [15:23:18] <AV500> solder two buttons to the BB and make them select host/slave
  • [15:24:07] <sakoman> I seem to recall a comment saying that the brightness display would work once there was a pwm driver, but that for now it was a gpio based on/off function
  • [15:24:46] <sakoman> AV500: the OTG cable is supposed to do that automatically
  • [15:24:58] <sakoman> by grounding the ID pin
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  • [15:26:06] <AV500> sakoman: yes, I know :-)
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  • [15:40:52] <koen> sakoman: isn't there a pandora git tree where they collect and clean their hacks?
  • [15:40:55] * koen looks at DJWillis
  • [15:41:27] <sakoman> koen: there may be
  • [15:41:44] <sakoman> perhaps DJWillis can give us a pointer
  • [15:41:54] <koen> 0x32fe
  • [15:42:20] <timtimwork> *groan*
  • [15:42:24] <timtimwork> :)
  • [15:43:49] <AV500> koen: 16bit pointers?
  • [15:45:23] <koen> AV500: no idea, I just mashed the keyboard :)
  • [15:45:27] <koen> timtimwork: welcome!
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  • [15:48:26] <Vincent4> does g++ of 2007q3 kinda "broken" ?
  • [15:48:31] <Vincent4> is*
  • [15:48:53] <koen> depends on your CFLAGS
  • [15:49:25] <Vincent4> 'cause I'm trying to compile oprofile
  • [15:49:53] <Vincent4> but I get an "error trying to exec 'cc1plus'"
  • [15:51:32] <koen> just use angstrom, that has oprofile inside the demo image
  • [15:52:51] <Vincent4> angstrom isn't only for BB ? I'm on EVM
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  • [15:54:36] <koen> angstrom runs on lots of hardware
  • [15:54:42] <koen> including the omap3evm
  • [15:58:23] <delire> are there any other USB wifi adaptors known to work with the BB?
  • [15:58:48] * delire is familiar with adaptors on x86-32 but not ARM.
  • [15:59:10] <delire> .. oops running Angstrom
  • [15:59:47] <Vincent2> arf, didn't see I have 2 tchat windows XD
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  • [15:59:57] <Vincent2> ^^
  • [16:02:09] <koen> Vincent2: go to http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/ select omap3evm and check the development packages section for oprofile
  • [16:02:22] <koen> delire: works just like x86, just no ndiswrapper
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  • [16:06:31] <delire> koen: ok, good to know.
  • [16:07:31] <Vincent2> koen: can't find the kernel sources of the uImage given for the BB demo
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  • [16:08:27] <koen> Vincent2: it's built with openembedded, which has a list of source and patches
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  • [16:20:32] <richardw> jkridner|work: A while back you gave me a pointer where to post files to a temp server. Can you send link again?
  • [16:22:26] <Qball> how can I make X output a higher resolution on the beagle board? (xrand reports only 640x480)
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  • [16:26:35] <koen> timtimwork: for an autobuilder failure-cleanup is a usefull class to inherit
  • [16:31:58] <notaz_> sakoman, koen: we have a hackish PWM driver, but it's for PWM0 only
  • [16:32:03] <Vincent2> I'm off for today
  • [16:32:10] <notaz_> sakoman, koen: http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4df44339047cb11753a40b9b8a8cc8872284ee4
  • [16:32:13] <Vincent2> see you
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  • [16:35:07] <Qball> I have added video=omapfb:mode:1280x720@60 to the kernel cmd, (I can see it in dmesg) but I still get only 640x480
  • [16:35:21] <koen> Qball: which kernel?
  • [16:35:31] <koen> Qball: 2.6.28 has different parameters for videomode
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  • [16:35:31] <Qball> Linux beagleboard 2.6.28-omap1
  • [16:35:36] <Qball> the one from the beginners guide
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  • [16:39:57] <timtimwork> koen ta will check that out
  • [16:48:38] * timtimwork checks his builder...
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  • [16:49:14] <timtimwork> yay up to g on the ppc603e feed...
  • [16:50:59] <Qball> got it working.
  • [16:51:01] <muriani> eh?
  • [16:51:24] <DJWillis> sakoman: pandora-kernel on git.openpandora.org for the kernel. Check the recent commits for the WIP stuff.
  • [16:51:36] <muriani> sorry, heard ppc603e in here and went kinda wtf
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  • [16:51:44] <DJWillis> ahhh, just seem notaz_ already got there :)
  • [16:51:44] <muriani> I've got a couple hanging aroudn
  • [16:51:53] <koen> timtimwork: did you checkin your php fix yet?
  • [16:53:00] <sakoman> DJWillis, notaz_: thanks!
  • [16:53:43] <timtimwork> my fix disables pdo-sqlite
  • [16:53:46] <timtimwork> heh
  • [16:53:53] <timtimwork> erm, im not sure thats a fix
  • [16:53:58] <timtimwork> :)
  • [16:55:21] <koen> I'm not sure what PDO is
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  • [16:56:09] <timtimwork> some new fangled database abstraction thingy in php5
  • [16:56:16] <timtimwork> i think
  • [16:56:32] <timtimwork> oh PDO might be wrong. i think thats an objective-c-ism
  • [16:56:37] <timtimwork> my brain is fried today
  • [16:56:40] <timtimwork> :)
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  • [17:01:09] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: Do you know Tom Rix from WindRiver? http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2009-February/046755.html If j24 doesn't like to update mach types in mainline, what do you think doing it at omap3-dev so zoom2 would be able to work against omap3-dev?
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  • [17:02:30] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, yes - he had plans of bringing in zoom2
  • [17:03:15] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, i had requested him to push changes for fastboot
  • [17:03:30] <NishanthMenon> he had provided changes for zoom2 on omapzoom git
  • [17:05:42] <dirk2> Does omapzoom git is up to date regarding our mainline stuff? I.e. would it help zoom2 to work against recent omap3-dev or is omapzoom git already up to date and working against omap3-dev would bring no advantage?
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  • [17:06:48] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, slowly :)
  • [17:07:20] <dirk2> ah, np, normally I'm the slow one ;)
  • [17:07:30] <NishanthMenon> i am hoping to get vikram to convince folks to move to mainline and provide the patches back to mainline from omapzoom
  • [17:08:08] <NishanthMenon> steps: sync up features on mainline -> ethernet, usb fastboot,zoom2 then transition accross
  • [17:08:32] <NishanthMenon> meanwhile sync drivers on omapzoom (such as nand) to be in sync with mainline while the transition happens
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  • [17:10:53] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, gotta convince some folks why they need to move from "it already works, so why move" to "move coz it helps all for the future" ;)
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  • [17:12:19] <dirk2> ok. Just let us know if you need a "mainline + recent omap3 patches + recent machtypes" == omap3-dev. If you like discuss with zoom2 people what would be the best way. If anybody sends a working patch against omap3-dev, maybe I would help to clean it up and help to send it to u-boot list.
  • [17:14:29] <NishanthMenon> zoom2: on omapandroid-discussion@omapzoom.org (dont get the android to give me any angry looks ;).. we discuss all things zoom there)
  • [17:15:20] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: Not sure if I really want to subscribe to an additional mailing list ;)
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  • [17:16:06] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, i know the feeling (me thinks thunderbird rules might scream at me some day)
  • [17:16:37] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, will loop you in once we are ready for the transition.. (would be slow though - SDP, zoom2 needs to get in at the least)
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  • [17:17:36] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: Maybe you like to send Tom a link to log of this discussion so at least he knows
  • [17:18:02] <NishanthMenon> will do
  • [17:19:12] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: btw: OMAP3 OpenOCD is still not running :( At the moment keesj and I do some experiments with low level JTAG tool urjtag to get an idea what is the correct jtag sequence to enable ARM.
  • [17:19:42] * NishanthMenon miles away from dallas and away from flyswatter :(
  • [17:19:53] <NishanthMenon> not to mention beagle :(
  • [17:20:08] <robclark> I'm futzing with the IRC server config file.. hopefully this doesn't kick everyone off, but if it does just re join in a minute
  • [17:20:46] <robclark> ok, that seemed to work.. or at least not kick everyone out
  • [17:20:57] <NishanthMenon> robclark, on #beagle on freenode?
  • [17:21:12] <robclark> NishanthMenon: no
  • [17:21:24] <robclark> hmm, that wasn't supposed to go to this channel.. my bad
  • [17:21:29] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [17:22:06] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: Hopefully you are near OMAP4 :)
  • [17:22:33] <NishanthMenon> dirk2, cant comment :(
  • [17:22:52] <dirk2> NishanthMenon: ;)
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  • [17:26:52] <jkridner|work> richardw: refresh my memory a bit.
  • [17:27:11] <jkridner|work> richardw: in what context for a temp server?
  • [17:27:15] <mru> jkridner|work uses dram apparently
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  • [17:27:41] <jkridner|work> indeed I do.
  • [17:28:12] <jkridner|work> richardw: maybe this will work for you: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/files
  • [17:29:07] <jkridner|work> http://www.beagleboard.org/uploads requires games that are not advisable to share over the IRC in logs.
  • [17:30:12] <dirk2> jkridner|work: I think in the logs there was something about CeBit and that you will check. If there is any Beagle (OMAP3) activity let us know, best via mailing list that we will not miss it ;)
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  • [17:32:38] <jkridner|work> k, I sent T. Leyrer a note. good to ask me during work hours. :)
  • [17:33:09] <dirk2> thanks :)
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  • [18:05:25] <NishanthMenon> gnite..
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  • [18:06:42] <Crofton> interesting, so we could use the gpmc pins on the overo for gpio .....
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  • [18:19:46] <dgilmore> gday all
  • [18:20:03] <dgilmore> Im having issues getting any usb devices working
  • [18:22:18] <Crofton|work> define "any"
  • [18:22:28] <Crofton|work> and what sw are you using?
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  • [18:26:58] <dgilmore> Crofton|work: using fedora 10,
  • [18:27:31] <dgilmore> i brought the cable from serial io
  • [18:27:42] <dgilmore> ive tried just a keyboard plugged in
  • [18:27:52] <dgilmore> as well as a usb hub
  • [18:28:16] <dgilmore> in the hub i have just a keyboard and usb nic
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  • [18:30:48] <Crofton|work> I mean what are you running on the Beagle :)
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  • [18:33:01] <dgilmore> fedora
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  • [18:33:27] <Crofton> hmm, I didn't know anyone ported fedora to the beagle
  • [18:33:46] <dgilmore> im working on getting the fedora arm port working on it
  • [18:34:24] <dgilmore> right now im using the plain rootfs from http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/fedora/rootfs/rootfs-f10.tar.bz2
  • [18:34:37] <dgilmore> and a kernel i built from git
  • [18:34:49] <dgilmore> I used a qemu arm box to build the kernel
  • [18:37:23] <dgilmore> 2.6.29-rc3-omap1-05425-g8e722f8-dirty is the kernel im using
  • [18:37:34] <dgilmore> my usb nic needs asix
  • [18:37:46] <dgilmore> which i did not find in the available kernels
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  • [18:38:28] <Crofton|work> dgilmore, I'm one of the Angstrom guys :)
  • [18:38:46] <Crofton|work> usb works on Angtrom :) so it is not the hw
  • [18:39:27] <jkridner|work> Crofton|work: looking at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=kernel-module-asix
  • [18:39:47] <jkridner|work> it doesn't seem that asix is built for ARMv7, but I seem to recall that it is supported.
  • [18:39:57] <jkridner|work> does the support come from some other .ipk?
  • [18:40:07] <jkridner|work> perhaps compiled into the kernel?
  • [18:40:15] <Crofton|work> I'm not sure
  • [18:40:17] <delire> anyone here use the BB for video capture using v4l? if so what pixel size and frame-rate were you getting?
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  • [18:40:27] <delire> (relative to the camera)
  • [18:40:28] <Crofton|work> lost in the pinmux today, trying to work out the spi rx issue
  • [18:41:15] <jkridner|work> delire: there are some folks using v4l with mplayer. I think they were just doing QVGA-30 for their demo and didn't try pushing anything more.
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  • [18:41:51] <koen> ../linux/linux-omap-2.6.26/beagleboard/defconfig:CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=y2
  • [18:41:52] <koen> ../linux/linux-omap-2.6.27/beagleboard/defconfig:CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=y
  • [18:41:52] <koen> ../linux/linux-omap-2.6.28/beagleboard/defconfig:CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=y
  • [18:41:52] <koen> ../linux/linux-omap-pm/beagleboard/defconfig:CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=y
  • [18:41:52] <koen> ../linux/linux-omap/beagleboard/defconfig:CONFIG_USB_NET_AX8817X=y
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  • [18:42:02] <koen> asix is builtin for all beagel kernels in OE
  • [18:42:10] <Crofton|work> detects use of grep
  • [18:42:23] <dgilmore> ill try again with a Angstrom kernel
  • [18:42:32] <jkridner|work> the beaglebot had a webcam: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/b0effa11e4759aac?hide_quotes=no
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  • [18:44:27] * jkridner|work thinks we probably need to add webcam and USB Ethernet howtos to a FAQ somewhere.
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  • [18:45:08] <koen> exsqueeze me
  • [18:45:17] <koen> connect to hub, fire up mplayer
  • [18:45:32] <koen> connect to hub, watch dhcp get an IP
  • [18:45:47] <koen> that's if you're using angstrom
  • [18:46:01] <koen> other distros will probably need more work
  • [18:46:04] <delire> jkridner|work: i'd really like that. i bought the BB specifically for outdoor computer vision work.
  • [18:46:20] <koen> gonna be a short faq :)
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  • [18:46:37] <delire> koen: even better..
  • [18:46:40] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [18:46:53] <Crofton|work> mcspi3 is on dss pins
  • [18:47:15] <Crofton|work> and etk pins
  • [18:48:10] <delire> koen: my application just needs a v4l support interface and, on the hw side, sufficient bandwidth for grabbing frames at sizes over 800x600 at >=24fps.
  • [18:48:18] <delire> s/support//
  • [18:50:09] <delire> (i guess i'll know in a few days when the BB's arrive)
  • [18:50:20] * delire rubs hands
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  • [18:58:07] <Crofton|work> koen, do we have a u-boot around built against very current git?
  • [18:58:50] <Crofton|work> one of the places mcspi3 shows up is on the hsusb pins
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  • [18:59:00] <Crofton|work> which look ok in u-boot git repo
  • [18:59:24] <sakoman> Crofton|work: I always have some freshly made
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  • [18:59:38] <Crofton|work> beagle one?
  • [18:59:55] <Crofton|work> I need to give one a try
  • [19:00:03] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.com/feeds/omap3/glibc/images/beagleboard/200902152258/
  • [19:00:36] <Crofton|work> no pinmux stuff in MLO right?
  • [19:00:48] <sakoman> nope, standard MLO
  • [19:01:02] <Crofton|work> I can bits come out of spi
  • [19:01:10] <Crofton|work> but nothing appears to go in
  • [19:01:21] <Crofton|work> if spidev_test really can read back what it tx's
  • [19:01:23] <sakoman> Is beagle master or slave?
  • [19:01:23] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [19:01:28] <Crofton|work> master
  • [19:01:43] <sakoman> That's strange
  • [19:01:48] <dgilmore> Crofton|work: its working now with the angstrom 2.6.28 kernel from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [19:01:57] <Crofton|work> why strange :)
  • [19:01:59] <Crofton|work> dgilmore, :)
  • [19:02:00] <dgilmore> i guess i busted up the kernel config
  • [19:02:01] <sakoman> Master mode works fine with the touchscreen controller on overo
  • [19:02:12] <Crofton|work> which controller?
  • [19:02:28] <sakoman> let me check
  • [19:02:42] <Crofton|work> ds2, suggests the pinmux is the issue
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  • [19:04:44] <sakoman> Crofton|work: .bus_num = 1,
  • [19:04:51] <Crofton|work> er
  • [19:04:59] <Crofton|work> that would be mcspi1?
  • [19:05:09] <sakoman> yes
  • [19:05:41] <Crofton|work> I am using mcspi3 on the expansion connector
  • [19:06:02] <Crofton|work> it is also routed to the dss pins and the etk pins
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  • [19:07:59] <Crofton|work> board serial #0
  • [19:08:50] <Crofton|work> still nothing
  • [19:10:26] <Shenanigan> is the USB recovery thingy burnt in the omap chip?
  • [19:10:47] <Shenanigan> it seems i was able to recover my beableboard even though x-loader was trashed
  • [19:10:56] <sakoman> Crofton|work: I don't see that MCSPI3 pinmux is set up in u-boot beagle.h
  • [19:11:57] <Crofton|work> mmc2 is configured by the kernel patch I ahve
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  • [19:12:45] <ds2> yes, there is an internal ROM on the OMAP
  • [19:13:07] <ds2> it can download code via USB/Serial/NAND/NOR and probally stuff that I donno about
  • [19:13:18] <Shenanigan> ah cool
  • [19:13:25] <Shenanigan> so i could "memset" the entire nand, and i could still boot?
  • [19:13:31] <ds2> yep
  • [19:13:46] <Shenanigan> is there a limit to the boot area? (ie, MLO)
  • [19:13:59] <ds2> there is even a U-boot command to scrub the NAND that will do exactly that
  • [19:14:07] <Shenanigan> ah
  • [19:14:27] <Shenanigan> i was thinking of replacing xloader/mlo with my own stuff
  • [19:14:34] <Shenanigan> skipping the bootloader stuff
  • [19:14:50] <Shenanigan> how big can the boot area be?
  • [19:14:54] <sakoman> Crofton|work: which pins does the expansion connector take the mcspi3 signals from?
  • [19:15:00] <ds2> what do you mean by "boot area"?
  • [19:15:01] <Crofton|work> mmc2
  • [19:15:12] <Shenanigan> the code at ofset 0x0
  • [19:15:19] <Crofton|work> mmc2 is primary use
  • [19:15:53] <sakoman> Crofton|work: OK, those are configured by u-boot as GPIO's, so your kernel patch better fix the pinmux to mode 1
  • [19:16:22] <Crofton|work> clock comes out
  • [19:16:26] <Crofton|work> data comes out
  • [19:16:38] <Crofton|work> reading this piece of code now
  • [19:17:21] <sakoman> does your pinmux setup include enabling input on the data in pin?
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  • [19:17:28] <Crofton|work> not sure
  • [19:17:32] <Crofton|work> trying to figure that out
  • [19:17:54] <garren> evening all
  • [19:17:55] <ds2> Crofton|work: MMC2 shares pins with McSPI?!
  • [19:18:19] <sakoman> Sounds like all your outputs work, so I suspect that the pinmux code is almost right
  • [19:18:26] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:18:34] <sakoman> The obvious flaw would be if you didn't enable input on that pin
  • [19:18:45] <Crofton|work> how do you do that?
  • [19:18:53] <ds2> sakoman: enabling multiple inputs does bad things
  • [19:19:11] <sakoman> ds2: yes indeed
  • [19:19:30] <sakoman> Crofton|work: do you have a link to the patch you are using?
  • [19:19:45] <Crofton|work> hang on
  • [19:20:05] <Crofton|work> I posted to beagle list :)
  • [19:20:21] <sakoman> ds2: I don't see an obvious conflict in the pinmux setup, so I don't think that is it
  • [19:21:04] <ds2> sakoman: U-boot does weird things with the pinmux config
  • [19:21:31] <sakoman> ds2: that is the code I am looking at
  • [19:22:12] <Crofton|work> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/d6a4e0703033cada#
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  • [19:23:30] <ds2> sakoman: For some reason U-boot was turning on the wrong pins for UART input; I would not be surprised if it did that for the other stuff
  • [19:26:12] <Crofton|work> in the MUXCFG macro, what is the hex number?
  • [19:26:42] <Shenanigan> ds2: do you know of a working jtag solution that is < $400 ?
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  • [19:30:13] <ds2> work? no. in progress of development, yeah
  • [19:30:25] <ds2> Crofton|work: register, looked at as 16bits vs the 32bit view in the TRM
  • [19:30:38] <Shenanigan> i bought the flyswatter under the belief it worked, but not quite...
  • [19:30:44] <Shenanigan> so i'm after an alternative if there is any
  • [19:30:58] <Shenanigan> everything else i found is > $1000
  • [19:31:06] <sakoman> Crofton|work: IIRC register address
  • [19:31:50] <ali_as> Shenanigan, what was the issue with the flyswatter?
  • [19:33:52] <ds2> the two main ones that I know work are the BDI and the Lauterbach and they are definitely >$1K
  • [19:34:02] <sakoman> Crofton|work: tha pin seems to be set to OMAP34XX_MUX_MODE1 | OMAP34XX_PIN_INPUT_PULLUP
  • [19:34:14] <sakoman> which seems on the surface to be correct
  • [19:34:36] <ds2> sakoman: why not just override them all in Linux as a quick test?
  • [19:34:39] <Crofton|work> yeah, I am wondering if the register number is wrong
  • [19:34:51] <ds2> got to be less painful then sorting through U-boot code
  • [19:35:00] <ds2> Crofton|work: verify with TRM
  • [19:35:06] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:35:07] <sakoman> But I seem to recall that the naming is quite confusing, so you might want to check the bits that get for INPUT_PULLUP are doing the right thing
  • [19:35:08] <Crofton|work> scrolling
  • [19:35:30] <sakoman> ds2: that is esxactly what Crofton's patch does - it overrides in linux
  • [19:37:13] <ds2> sorry, stuck on a windows box. and firefox does not liek showing patches as a normal page
  • [19:37:36] <Crofton|work> how do i get from phyical address to offset ...
  • [19:38:17] <ds2> take out the top part
  • [19:38:35] <ds2> it is like 0x4800nnnn... drop the 0x4800
  • [19:38:50] <Crofton|work> and x2?
  • [19:39:12] <ds2> x2??
  • [19:39:18] <Crofton|work> +1 for hi bits?
  • [19:39:22] <ds2> +2
  • [19:39:34] <ds2> they are looked at as 16bit regs
  • [19:42:18] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [19:42:48] <Shenanigan> ali_as: with openocd and urjtag, initialisation of the omap fails somewhere
  • [19:43:05] <Shenanigan> the flyswatter itself seems to be fine as it works with other devices
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  • [19:43:24] <sakoman> Crofton|work: sorry - on phone. will be back in a bit
  • [19:43:30] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [19:43:46] <Crofton|work> Need to look at controller setup ...
  • [19:43:56] <puppy> has anyone got the dspbridge and codecs working on the beagleboard?
  • [19:44:04] <felipec> puppy: yup
  • [19:44:27] <puppy> :O felipec!! i've been looking for some help from u if possible
  • [19:44:27] <felipec> puppy: but not the public codecs
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  • [19:45:20] <ali_as> Shenanigan, JTAG is a black art, there is a lot you need to check.
  • [19:45:49] <puppy> i've followed ur instructions on the website and got dspbridge compiled in. But when i try using gst-openmax, i got some dsp errors when trying to playback m4v. Also.. how come i can't use the testsrc with the omapfb. nothing comes up =( blank screen
  • [19:46:12] <ali_as> I've most often used a buffered interface which is 4 wires through a buffer connected to the parallel port. Very cheap, quite functional.
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  • [19:47:23] <ali_as> An oscilloscope helps debug JTAG connection issues.
  • [19:47:28] <felipec> puppy: the m4v won't work if you are using the public codecs, at least on tiopenmax-0.3
  • [19:47:41] <felipec> puppy: but videotestsrc ! omapfbsink should work
  • [19:48:00] <ali_as> I find using a program that will spit out information on the scan chain to be helpful.
  • [19:48:51] <ali_as> And if that still doesn't work, I step through the state machine manually.
  • [19:48:56] <puppy> felipec: gst-launch videotestsrc ! omapfbsink, it said "Setting pipline to Playing" but nothing comes on the screen fbdevsink seems to work.
  • [19:49:21] <Shenanigan> if i wanted to debug jtag or had the skill to, i wouldn't be here asking for alternatives
  • [19:49:50] <felipec> puppy: do you have /dev/fb1?
  • [19:50:32] <puppy> felipec: yep both /dev/fb0 and /dev/fb1 booted with video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M
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  • [19:50:59] <felipec> puppy: which kernel?
  • [19:51:18] <puppy> felipec: 2.6.27-omap1
  • [19:51:23] <ali_as> Shenanigan, then you are probably asking to spend several thousand dollars on a proper ICE.
  • [19:51:36] <felipec> weird!
  • [19:51:48] <felipec> puppy: that should work
  • [19:51:56] <Shenanigan> or i can just wait for openocd/urjtag to fix whatever problem
  • [19:52:09] <puppy> felipec: is the mp4vdec_sn.dll64P codec bad on the public release?
  • [19:52:31] <ali_as> And I've had to use an oscilloscope to debug non working connections on my $3k+ ST-CONNECT.
  • [19:52:32] <felipec> puppy: yes, and the usn too
  • [19:52:54] <felipec> I've been told that TI is very close to release tiopenmax-0.4
  • [19:53:25] <puppy> felipec: Is that codec working in L25?
  • [19:54:01] <puppy> felipec: One of the TI rep is trying to hunt that down for me.
  • [19:54:51] <felipec> puppy: hmm, I'm not sure... the one I'm trying is L12.20
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  • [19:56:07] <puppy> felipec: is there any easy way to troubleshoot the omapfbsink? do you think its something in my kernel?
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  • [19:56:40] <felipec> puppy: have tried anything else that uses /dev/fb1?
  • [19:56:55] <puppy> felipec: mmm i don't have anything that uses fb1 =(
  • [19:58:17] <felipec> puppy: are you using X? or anything that renders on fb0?
  • [19:58:29] <puppy> felipec: android
  • [19:59:00] <felipec> puppy: doesn't android uses a modified kernel?
  • [20:00:22] <Shenanigan> ali_as: i'm sure not going to get much help from elitist attidudes and "i'm rich with my elite k-rad $3k jtag and my sc0p3 hardwarez"
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  • [20:00:33] <felipec> I remember I had an issue with PM
  • [20:00:49] <felipec> but 2.6.27-omap1 (vanilla) works just fine
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  • [20:01:19] <puppy> felipec: yes... i tried both the patched kernel and the vanilla from the git tree no luck =(
  • [20:01:34] <puppy> felipec: maybe i'll re-pull from git and try again
  • [20:03:35] <puppy> felipec: which version of the kernel are u using that its working on if u don't mind me asking?
  • [20:03:42] <ali_as> Shenanigan, I don't feel it's elitest to say that even when you buy the overpriced stuff by the original manufacturer that you still have to get down and dirty with an oscilloscope when things go wrong. That bit of kit only works on 2 obscure CPUs youve probably never heard of. I use a ?5 Vlad interface for almost everything I do.
  • [20:03:58] <felipec> puppy: maybe try this patch: http://pastie.org/392089.txt
  • [20:04:40] <felipec> puppy: I haven't played with my beagleboard in a long time... the last one I tried was a 2.6.28 rc
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  • [20:06:29] <puppy> felipec: ok i'll give that a try. thanks felipec. I may bug u more later for some more questions if u don't mind =).. oh which files are bad from the codecs that needs replacement? just the m4v one or is there more?
  • [20:08:22] <felipec> puppy: can you list the files that are publicly available?
  • [20:09:12] <puppy> felipec: dctn_dyn.dll64P,mp4vdec_sn.dll64P,mpeg4aacdec_sn.dll64P,postprocessor.dll64P,ringio.dll64P,usn.dll64P,vpp_sn.dll64P
  • [20:10:16] <ds2> felipec: are you the MUSB maintaner?
  • [20:11:20] <felipec> puppy: mp4vdec_sn.dll64P, ringio.dll64P and usn.dll64P are the ones I'm pretty sure they need updating maybe vpp_sn.dll64P and dctn_dyn.dll64P
  • [20:12:58] <felipec> ds2: nope, I'm Felipe Contreras, Felipe Balbi is the MUSB guy
  • [20:13:31] <ds2> oh sorry
  • [20:13:39] <puppy> felipec: thanks =).. i'll try the patch you mention on the omapfb hopefully that'll be fix and all thats left is getting codecs working ^^
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  • [21:19:03] <Qball> howdy all.
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  • [21:40:40] <Qball> hmm I installed angstron from the beginners wiki, but there is no ipkg installed? anyway to get that? (p.s. is there a good crosscompile guide?)
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  • [21:51:09] <koen> Qball: ipkg is dead, use opkg
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  • [21:55:48] <Qball> koen: thx.. hmm lot of guides point to ipkg.
  • [21:56:14] <mru> don't trust guides
  • [21:56:24] <koen> the previous release of angstrom used ipkg
  • [21:56:25] <Qball> also this bitbake guide fails
  • [21:56:27] <Qball> :(
  • [21:56:28] <koen> but that was 2007
  • [21:56:38] <Qball> this is frigging annoying
  • [21:56:41] <mru> see, trust koen, not the guides
  • [21:56:59] <Qball> well prepared to be queried then
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  • [21:57:30] <koen> mru: did you do any cool new neon stuff lately?
  • [21:57:39] <Qball> lets see if I can install mpd
  • [21:57:52] <mru> koen: no, not lately... sorry
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  • [21:58:20] <koen> no need to say sorry, we're all still amazed by the stuff you did earlier :)
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  • [22:00:39] <YazzY> howdy
  • [22:00:48] <YazzY> would netbsd run on beagleboard?
  • [22:00:57] <koen> if you port it
  • [22:02:03] <YazzY> it could have been already ported
  • [22:02:15] <YazzY> freebsd runs on it
  • [22:02:55] <Qball> koen: is there a good site on cross compiling.
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  • [22:04:03] <koen> Qball: openembedded.org
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  • [22:05:54] <ADcomp> hello ..
  • [22:07:15] <ADcomp> have a question .. (sorry for my poor english)
  • [22:08:03] <abitos> YazzY: could you give me a referece for freebsd on the beagle board?
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  • [22:09:25] <ADcomp> I buy a beagleboard few days ago .. Love it ;) put beagleboard-demo-image .. and after some 'hack' , all works fine
  • [22:10:44] <ADcomp> now I try to create the same with OE ( bitbake beagleboard-demo-image ) , but have an error while compile Bluez4 :(
  • [22:11:16] <ADcomp> ( console-image is ok )
  • [22:11:47] <ADcomp> someone have an idea ?
  • [22:12:29] <koen> bitbake -c rebuild libusb1 libusb-compat
  • [22:14:07] <ADcomp> ok .. I try 'subito' .. thanks
  • [22:14:45] <ADcomp> Do you know why I have this error ? here the log :
  • [22:15:49] <ADcomp> hid2hci.o: In function `main': hid2hci.c:(.text+0xd0): undefined reference to `libusb_init' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  • [22:17:30] <ADcomp> ok .. but what next ? just redo 'bitbake beagleboard-demo-image' ?
  • [22:18:02] <koen> yes
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  • [22:20:25] <ADcomp> ok .. let's go .. thanks again .. I read your name very often when I do some 'research' about beagleboard :D
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  • [22:23:16] <ADcomp> There is very poor info/doc/howto about beagle / angstrom / openembedded in french ..
  • [22:24:27] <ADcomp> when I 'm more familar with it , I write some tips to help 'french' people
  • [22:25:23] <ADcomp> other question ?
  • [22:25:44] <koen> papa fume une pipe
  • [22:26:03] <koen> that's pretty much all the french I know
  • [22:26:08] <ADcomp> " NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot) " ..??
  • [22:26:22] <ADcomp> :)
  • [22:26:38] <koen> that can be ignored (the uboot thing)
  • [22:27:36] <ADcomp> my english is not better , but I need it for with kind of stuff ;)
  • [22:27:54] <ADcomp> (with -> this)
  • [22:28:00] <ADcomp> ok ..
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  • [22:29:21] * koen zzzz now
  • [22:30:09] <Qball> opkg install irssi
  • [22:30:10] <ADcomp> bye koen .. thank you for your help
  • [22:30:10] <Qball> An error ocurred, return value: 1074020864.
  • [22:30:12] <Qball> nrat
  • [22:30:15] <Qball> neat
  • [22:30:30] <jkridner|work> Qball: this is likely due to a network connection issue.
  • [22:30:44] <RogerMonk> Qball, did you opkg update first?
  • [22:30:45] <Qball> network is up and running
  • [22:30:47] <Qball> yes
  • [22:30:48] <jkridner|work> Qball: at least that is why I usually get that error. or because I didn't do an 'opkg update'.
  • [22:30:55] <RogerMonk> are you behind a proxy?
  • [22:31:06] <Qball> nice message..
  • [22:31:07] <Qball> no
  • [22:31:24] <RogerMonk> does opkg update work ok?
  • [22:31:27] <RogerMonk> no errors?
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  • [22:31:37] <Qball> package probly not exists.. yes update worked
  • [22:32:12] <Qball> wise doing an upgrade/
  • [22:32:15] <jkridner|work> looks like there is only an ARMv6 build, not ARMv7. :(
  • [22:32:19] <jkridner|work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=irssi
  • [22:32:20] <jkridner|work> odd.
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  • [22:32:42] <ADcomp> bye all ..
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  • [22:33:34] * Qball wonders if he can get mpd + gmpc working.
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  • [22:41:59] <Qball> how do I solve this:
  • [22:42:04] <Qball>
  • [22:42:05] <Qball> * Package busybox wants to install file /etc/default/mountall
  • [22:42:06] <Qball> But that file is already provided by package * util-linux-ng-mount
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  • [22:45:27] <Qball> hmm no luck with irssi
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  • [22:49:16] <sakoman> jkridner|work: I've never been able to build an ARMv7 version of irssi
  • [22:49:38] <sakoman> always fails in the configure phase and I've never bothered to debug it
  • [22:50:08] <Qball> aah
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  • [22:50:13] <Qball> well it was just a test.
  • [22:50:22] <Qball> the return value is just odd
  • [22:50:28] <sakoman> you chose a painful test :-)
  • [22:50:38] <Qball> guess so :-|
  • [22:51:58] <Qball> autoheader is broken
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  • [22:55:03] <Qball> man this is frustrating
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  • [23:05:08] <Qball> hmm installed gcc, but no gcc bin.
  • [23:05:09] <Qball> fun
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  • [23:13:23] <jkridner|work> Qball: try 'opkg install task-native-sdk'
  • [23:14:23] <Qball> cool
  • [23:14:56] <jkridner|work> Qball: also, you can use various '-force' arguments, but I'm not suitable to advise exactly which ones.
  • [23:16:30] <Qball> kay.
  • [23:17:54] <ds2> it is situations like this that has me convinced it is easier to build from original tarballs then to deal with packages
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  • [23:26:10] <tharvey> is it still true that the geometry of an sd/mmc card must be set to H=255, S=63 for bootrom to boot from it?
  • [23:26:28] <Crofton> tharvey, ye
  • [23:26:30] <Crofton> yes
  • [23:26:54] <sakoman> Crofton: did you ever resolve your spi issue?
  • [23:26:58] <Crofton|work> no
  • [23:27:01] <Crofton|work> I am frustrated
  • [23:27:13] <tharvey> hmm... someone told me the booted an Overo without altering their card which shows as Disk /dev/sda: 978 cylinders, 64 heads, 63 sectors/track
  • [23:27:14] <Crofton|work> I can't see anyhting obviously wrong with pinmux
  • [23:27:31] <Crofton|work> So, tomorrow I start picking apart the driver stuff
  • [23:27:34] <sakoman> So you can see the bits wiggling on the input pin, but you get all zeros for the read?
  • [23:27:45] <Crofton|work> I'm wondering if the driver is on a tz only mode
  • [23:27:49] <Crofton|work> right
  • [23:28:03] <Crofton|work> several people have reported this on the ml
  • [23:28:26] <tharvey> I'm having trouble with a script that I've written to format an SD/MMC card which uses sfdisk in the following way: printf ",32,c,*\n,,83,-\n" | sfdisk $SD_DEV -uM -H 255 -S 63
  • [23:28:45] <sakoman> Crofton|work: I'll try to build you a u-boot that does the pin mux properly
  • [23:28:51] <tharvey> when booting, I get: Reading boot sector
  • [23:28:51] <tharvey> Error: reading boot sector
  • [23:29:21] <sakoman> Crofton|work: then you can ditch the kernel patch and see if you get a different result
  • [23:29:30] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [23:29:36] <Crofton|work> that would be awesome
  • [23:29:44] <tharvey> If I see Texas Instruments X-Loader ... that means the omap bootrom 'has' read the MLO right - as thats the MLO talking?
  • [23:29:52] <sakoman> I'll set them up to be identical to the spi1 channel
  • [23:30:00] <Crofton|work> I wish the Overo I had had mcspi3 pins available :)
  • [23:30:03] <sakoman> tharvey: yes
  • [23:30:26] <Crofton|work> although I want to wire the overo gpmc interface to an fpga
  • [23:30:52] <tharvey> so MLO reporting 'Reading boot sector\nError: reading boot sector' would indicate what exactly? trouble reading uboot or a lower level issue with the mmc?
  • [23:30:58] <sakoman> Crofton|work: why not use the Overo SPI1 pins?
  • [23:31:22] <Crofton|work> well, I have the fpga dev board attached the beagle
  • [23:31:47] <Crofton|work> need to power the bank etc
  • [23:31:52] <sakoman> tharvey: yes, it indicates an issue with the FAT partition
  • [23:32:12] <Crofton|work> my bussy board has no header
  • [23:32:13] <sakoman> Crofton|work: understood
  • [23:32:35] <sakoman> I'll take a shot at the u-boot changes
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  • [23:34:42] <Crofton|work> I think this will be informative ....
  • [23:35:07] <Crofton|work> I may post something to the l-o list and see what people say
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  • [23:36:22] <sakoman> Crofton|work: are you using any of the MCSPI3 CS lines?
  • [23:36:33] <Crofton|work> not at the moment
  • [23:37:00] <sakoman> OK, so I just need to configure CLK, SIMO, and SOMI?
  • [23:37:26] <Qball> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ is broken
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  • [23:37:35] <Qball> it returns php code here :(
  • [23:37:52] <Crofton|work> yes
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  • [23:40:42] <sakoman> Qball: I just tried to opkg install task-native-sdk on my Overo
  • [23:40:55] <Qball> do.
  • [23:40:59] <Qball> so?
  • [23:41:04] <Qball> it worked here
  • [23:41:06] <sakoman> It installed with no errors and I was able to compile hello.c
  • [23:41:30] <sakoman> Oh, I though you said the repo was broken
  • [23:41:48] <Qball> no the website
  • [23:42:13] <sakoman> Sorry I was confused about your issue :-)
  • [23:42:17] <Qball> sorry
  • [23:42:21] <Qball> always blame me
  • [23:43:31] <Qball> just compiled mpd
  • [23:44:27] <Qball> somehow flac is missed
  • [23:44:32] <Qball> let me look into that
  • [23:44:38] <sakoman> Crofton|work: does your spi input have an external pullup or should I enble one for you?
  • [23:45:13] <Crofton> I connect output to input
  • [23:45:20] <Crofton> connect a pullup
  • [23:45:31] <sakoman> OK, that is safest
  • [23:45:32] <Crofton> I think the existing code uses one
  • [23:45:33] <Crofton> yes
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  • [23:48:14] <Crofton|work> I sent an email to l-o
  • [23:48:31] <Crofton|work> maybe someone will call me an idiot and explain why I am a moron :)
  • [23:48:45] <Crofton|work> the list has been to high brow lately anyway :)
  • [23:50:18] <sakoman> Crofton|work: would you like me to email the patch to you so you can build your own u-boot?
  • [23:50:40] <Crofton|work> go ahead
  • [23:50:47] <Crofton|work> I'll have to remember how to do that
  • [23:51:12] <sakoman> heh, just add it to the u-boot recipe :-)
  • [23:51:24] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [23:51:32] <Crofton|work> we re going to eat now
  • [23:51:57] <Crofton|work> I have this vain hope someone will explain a deficiency in the mcpi driver ...
  • [23:52:04] <tharvey> anyone have a script that partitions/prepares an SD/MMC? still having some difficulties
  • [23:52:38] <sakoman> Crofton|work: it is on its way
  • [23:52:50] <Crofton|work> thanks
  • [23:52:52] <sakoman> I think the driver is good since it works with touchscreens
  • [23:53:10] <Crofton|work> they are read only though?
  • [23:53:39] <sakoman> Isn't it reading you are having trouble with?
  • [23:53:48] <Crofton|work> I am not 100% certain the test we are using is sane
  • [23:53:52] <Crofton|work> right reading
  • [23:54:00] <sakoman> At any rate, IIRC there is also quite a bit of register writing going on
  • [23:54:05] <Crofton|work> yeah
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  • [23:54:46] <sakoman> The patch I sent you will at least get your pins in the right mode!
  • [23:55:49] <sakoman> Should be trivial to add to your u-boot recipe
  • [23:56:09] <sakoman> If you run into issues I can build a u-boot for you
  • [23:56:23] <Crofton|work> yeah, although I do not see what is wrong with doing it in Liunx either
  • [23:56:26] <Crofton|work> so confusing
  • [23:56:46] <sakoman> perhaps nothing!
  • [23:57:03] <sakoman> this will just confirm that it isn't the linux pinmux code :-)
  • [23:57:38] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [23:57:48] <Crofton|work> that is where my head is getting
  • [23:57:51] <sakoman> have you tried tying the MISO pin to 1 to see if you get all ones on the read?
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  • [23:58:01] <Crofton|work> not personally
  • [23:58:06] <Crofton|work> pin 1 is 1.8v?
  • [23:58:17] <Crofton|work> someone on the list did though
  • [23:58:18] <sakoman> don't know :-)
  • [23:58:31] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [23:58:38] <sakoman> I always have to try for myself :-)
  • [23:58:47] <Crofton|work> by one you mean logic one
  • [23:58:51] <sakoman> yes
  • [23:58:59] <Crofton|work> someone tried
  • [23:59:03] <sakoman> which would 1.8V in this case
  • [23:59:12] <Crofton|work> and I get private emails from people interested