• [00:00:01] <javaJake> OK
  • [00:00:08] <mru> works here at least
  • [00:00:29] <javaJake> Good enough for me ;)
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  • [00:05:31] <mru> I don't think I'll be switching my main machines to baselayout-2 any time soon
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  • [00:11:00] <javaJake> OK
  • [00:11:02] <javaJake> Heheheh
  • [00:11:07] <javaJake> Yea, I know what you mean :
  • [00:11:08] <javaJake> *:P
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  • [00:17:39] <javaJake> s/\/dev\///
  • [00:18:16] <ds2> I wish the svideo connector wasn't populated :/
  • [00:18:58] <mru> s,\/,!, for less leaning-toothpick syndrome
  • [00:19:07] <mru> ds2: I wish the svideo connector wasn't invented
  • [00:19:08] <javaJake> lol
  • [00:19:23] <ds2> heh
  • [00:19:40] <ds2> I'll settle for it not being populated. It is the tallest component on the board :(
  • [00:20:28] <mru> you can always remove it
  • [00:20:42] <ds2> thinking of doing that and the USB A connector too
  • [00:21:06] <javaJake> Dramatic. :)
  • [00:21:18] <javaJake> Then again, this entire beagle thing is dramatic.
  • [00:21:29] <mru> ds2: just get a rev B; no usb there ;-)
  • [00:21:53] <ds2> mru: that isn't the point... :P
  • [00:22:06] <ds2> I want to use that USB port internally with the board powered at <4.5V
  • [00:22:21] <ds2> so I got to strip out the power signals anyways
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  • [00:24:01] <ds2> and my rev B has a even taller USB connector there :(
  • [00:24:34] <mru> which rev B do you have?
  • [00:24:53] <ds2> the first one
  • [00:25:01] <mru> no number?
  • [00:25:03] <ds2> B0 or B1
  • [00:25:05] <ds2> nope
  • [00:25:10] <mru> same as mine then
  • [00:25:23] <mru> it has a tall flange on the hdmi connector
  • [00:25:23] <ds2> you have the tab on the USB connector?
  • [00:25:38] <mru> the usb port looks normal
  • [00:25:50] <ds2> oh right thee HDMI has the flange, not the USB...
  • [00:26:02] <ds2> from the top they are about the same width
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  • [00:27:47] <ds2> arrrggg this EeePC is getting annoying... for some reason this 8.9 screen is giving me eye strain but not the tiny LCD on the N800
  • [00:28:05] <mru> the eee screen is terrible
  • [00:28:27] <mru> is it slightly fuzzy?
  • [00:28:40] <ds2> donno
  • [00:28:47] <mru> visually I mean
  • [00:28:56] <ds2> can't tell
  • [00:29:30] <mru> cheap lcd screens are often strainful to use
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  • [00:30:05] <mru> my desktop screen can actually be viewed in direct sunlight
  • [00:30:12] <mru> no idea how that works
  • [00:30:52] <javaJake> mru: transflective?
  • [00:30:58] <mru> must be
  • [00:31:28] <mru> http://www.hazro.co.uk/products/hazro_hz24w.html
  • [00:31:30] <mru> one of those
  • [00:32:04] <mru> it's not quite as good as the blurb makes it out
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  • [00:32:41] <javaJake> mru: still trying to figure out why elinks freezes on start, so I can't visit any sites yet.
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  • [00:36:33] <ds2> I'd think the PDA screens are worse but I just can't figure out why this eeepc screen is so much harder on my eyes:(
  • [00:37:06] <javaJake> mru: still trying to figure out why elinks freezes on start, so I can't visit any sites yet.
  • [00:37:10] <javaJake> Oops, sorry
  • [00:37:13] <javaJake> That was the wrong terminal
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  • [00:39:46] <javaJake> That was the wrong terminal
  • [00:39:53] <javaJake> Augh! Wrong terminal. :/
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  • [00:46:43] <brianski1> is anyone else using the EL-006-0406 ethernet + 3port usb hub successfully with their beagleboard?
  • [00:46:52] <brianski1> lsusb doesn't even see it with the debian/versatile kernel i'm using
  • [00:47:04] <brianski1> in fact lsusb doesn't see anything but the power adapter
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  • [00:47:32] <brianski1> makes no difference if the hub is powered or not...
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  • [00:48:13] <brianski1> i have a usb otg adapter plugged into the mini usb, and the hub plugged into that adapter... am i doing something wrong?
  • [00:48:36] <brianski1> do i need to do something to tell the usb bus "you're a computer, not a device" ?
  • [00:53:23] <brianski1> bah, i see it now. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OTG
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  • [01:03:38] <ZeZu> do all OTG devices require the use of two different types of usb cables ?
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  • [01:04:14] <mru> I think so
  • [01:06:06] <ZeZu> I always figured it could detect whether the device connected was a host or not, thought it was pretty cool, having to use two diff. cords is ok, but less cool :)
  • [01:07:05] <ZeZu> more like the double male usb for connecting two host devices, forget the # for it
  • [01:07:25] <ZeZu> use one for a serial ata board i have
  • [01:07:40] <ds2> mru: do you know the URL for the RevC test U-boot binaries?
  • [01:08:05] <mru> ds2: no, sorry
  • [01:08:17] <mru> I build my own stuff
  • [01:08:42] <ds2> got a RevC binary?
  • [01:08:59] <mru> C1D?
  • [01:09:46] <javaJake> ZeZu: you can force it to use host mode. That's cool. ;)
  • [01:10:20] <mru> ds2: http://ffmpeg.org/~mru/u-boot.bin works for me
  • [01:11:21] <ZeZu> yea
  • [01:12:01] <ds2> got the corresponding MLO too? :)
  • [01:12:12] <ds2> I suppose any MLO should work
  • [01:12:22] <ds2> mru: I just want to sanity check something
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  • [01:13:26] <mru> x-load.bin.ift in the same dir
  • [01:13:32] <mru> I think that's what I used...
  • [01:14:12] <ds2> thanks
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  • [01:28:42] <n6pfk> Hi, I am trying to use the "loads" command in u-boot with ckermit's transmit command and it isn't working. Does anyone have a u-boot with the "loads" command taht works?
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  • [01:31:38] <ds2> I usually use send in ckermit
  • [01:31:45] <ds2> not sure what the diff between transmit and send is
  • [01:32:33] <ds2> and I use loadb with that, don't see a loads command
  • [01:32:51] <n6pfk> Transmit sends a raw file.
  • [01:33:27] <n6pfk> That's right some u-boot(s) have no "loads" command.
  • [01:33:51] <n6pfk> Loads is for loading s-records.
  • [01:33:56] <ds2> Oh right
  • [01:34:22] <ds2> donno... any reason you need to use s-rec's?
  • [01:35:15] <n6pfk> Loadb doesn't work on my bin file because I don't know the syntax of the mkimage command to add the necessary header.
  • [01:36:20] <ds2> loadb shouldn't care about headers
  • [01:36:38] <ZeZu> use flat binaries or multiboot ?
  • [01:36:40] <n6pfk> How does it know where to load the file?
  • [01:37:00] <mru> you tell it iirc
  • [01:37:37] <n6pfk> Are ordinary bin files relocatable?
  • [01:37:55] <mru> depends on what's in them
  • [01:38:00] <mru> what are you loading?
  • [01:38:06] <ZeZu> flat binaries are not unless you write code that enables it
  • [01:41:05] <brianski1> javaJake: is there a way to force host mode short of shorting out the pins or buying different cables/
  • [01:41:10] <brianski1> ie something you could tell the firmware?
  • [01:41:16] <n6pfk> I compiled u-boot from u-boot-omap3 which creates hello_world in s-record elf-executable and .bin formats. It is statically liked to the uboort.bin to use it's i/o functions. I would like to be able to execute one of them. BTW this u-boot includes the "loads" command.
  • [01:41:41] <javaJake> brianski1: you can echo something to a /sys file after boot
  • [01:41:50] <javaJake> brianski1: don't know the details off the top of my head
  • [01:42:50] <ds2> loadb takes an argument that says where it will wind up
  • [01:42:57] <n6pfk> I want to include other stand-alone programs in the build but I can't get hello_world to run.
  • [01:43:11] <javaJake> brianski1: because it's the kernel that decides whether or not to use host in the end.
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  • [01:46:44] <ds2> mru: your u-boot seems to be nand broken
  • [01:46:53] <mru> ?
  • [01:47:02] <n6pfk> I followed the instructions in the u-boot manual to the letter using "loadb" and all of the hello_world file and it doesn't work.
  • [01:47:05] <ds2> nand write gives me messages like:
  • [01:47:13] <ds2> Skip bad block 0x00000000
  • [01:47:25] <ds2> to 0xffff0000
  • [01:47:32] <ds2> and it loops
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  • [01:47:47] <mru> hmm
  • [01:48:05] <mru> maybe that wasn't a good build
  • [01:48:29] <ds2> i'll build another one; it got me far enough to do a basic check
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  • [01:48:38] <n6pfk> It doen't work with any u-boot I have tried.
  • [01:48:43] <ds2> interesting...nand unlock/nand erase does NOT erase
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  • [01:49:23] <n6pfk> I went to the u-boot irc channel and they were no help.
  • [01:49:47] <ds2> n6pfk: hmmm what area did you load it into?
  • [01:49:49] <mru> ds2: if that is the u-boot I'm using now, I've most likely not flashed anything with it
  • [01:50:03] <ds2> loadb XXXXXX <--- what is that value
  • [01:50:13] <n6pfk> 0x8000000
  • [01:50:43] <ds2> did you build your code to be running there? cuz there is no RAM down there
  • [01:50:57] <ds2> try building it for execution at 0x8020 0000
  • [01:51:05] <ds2> and loading to there where there is memory
  • [01:51:33] <n6pfk> How do I do that?
  • [01:51:46] <ds2> I assume you give it a start address?
  • [01:52:08] <ds2> cuz raw memory starts at 0x8000 0000; and U-boot uses a little bit so 8020 0000 skips that
  • [01:52:57] <n6pfk> I loaded the .bin file to where the u-boot manual said it was built for and did a "go" where it said to do it and no joy?
  • [01:53:26] <n6pfk> 0x8004 0040
  • [01:54:39] <ds2> ah 8004 0040 should be okay
  • [01:55:07] <brianski1> javaJake: cool, thanks, i'll look into that magic sys file
  • [01:55:14] <javaJake> :)
  • [01:55:19] <n6pfk> That's what the manual says but it doesn't work.
  • [01:55:43] <ds2> doubt loading it as a S-Rec would help
  • [01:56:23] <n6pfk> The s-record tells "loads" where to put it and specifies the start address.
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  • [01:56:40] <n6pfk> But "loads" doesn't work.
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  • [02:03:58] <ds2> you can loadb to any address
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  • [05:33:13] <mib_al53xi> anyone out there planning use with winxpe?
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  • [05:36:14] <ds2> how is that possible? Beagle is ARM
  • [05:36:20] <ds2> XPe is x86
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  • [06:20:19] <garren|work> morning all
  • [06:25:14] <sakoman> garren|work: good morning
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  • [06:53:10] <khasim> sakoman: did we get any patch to fix the USB tty hang,
  • [06:53:26] <sakoman> khasim: not that I know of
  • [06:53:32] <khasim> sakoman: I was looking at IRC logs, didnt find any conclusion on this topic
  • [06:53:53] <khasim> sakoman: thanks for confirming. :)
  • [06:54:18] <sakoman> I've been working on testing dss2/sgx for overo, so I haven't paid too much attention
  • [06:55:27] * khasim jumping between power measurement and USB tty... :(
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  • [06:55:52] <sakoman> any luck with power measurement?
  • [06:56:07] <sakoman> the hw doesn't look like you could get much accuracy
  • [06:56:43] <khasim> no, I read only 0s... I followed the procedure given in TRM, no success yet,
  • [06:57:23] <sakoman> Are you using the linux adc driver, or just poking at the hw?
  • [06:57:25] <khasim> had mailed spec owner yesterday, didn't get any concrete solution.
  • [06:57:35] <ds2> maybe there is a gain factor that needs to be programmed?
  • [06:57:39] <khasim> using u-boot to just check if it works,
  • [06:57:49] <sakoman> There are reports that the linux driver doesn't work at all
  • [06:57:50] <khasim> then probably tune up the adc driver
  • [06:58:30] <khasim> it should atleast work for Battery,
  • [06:58:52] <sakoman> agreed! that should be the easy one!
  • [06:58:56] <khasim> didnt find any one inside TI who has validated it
  • [06:59:11] <sakoman> that's scarey :-)
  • [06:59:15] <khasim> :)
  • [06:59:41] <sakoman> I'm looking for an interesting sgx demo
  • [07:00:22] <sakoman> the sgx tests are boring :-)
  • [07:00:25] <ds2> does it worrk on the SDP?
  • [07:00:37] <khasim> sakoman now moving from core development to app development :) - great !!!
  • [07:00:48] <ds2> sakoman: is the twirling sword demo available?
  • [07:01:04] <sakoman> ds2: where would I look?
  • [07:01:04] <khasim> ds2: I checked with SDP team, they haven't validated this feature yet.
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  • [07:01:35] <khasim> sakoman: I have it, not sure how to pass it around. Does koen have the same ?
  • [07:02:03] <sakoman> don't know. guess I'll ask jkridner in the morning
  • [07:02:26] <khasim> not sure if TI site has demos as well...
  • [07:02:33] <sakoman> at least things seem to work with 2.6.29-rc3 + latest dss2 patches
  • [07:03:13] <ds2> sakoman: it is the one that seems to be used to demo the beagle board at all the shows
  • [07:03:46] <ds2> khasim: what about the LDP guys? they have a battery
  • [07:04:08] <mru> morning
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  • [07:04:39] <sakoman> mru: good morning
  • [07:04:45] <mru> last chance for fosdem visistors to request something from england
  • [07:05:27] <khasim> ds2: the driver was added by Nokia folks, I am trying to get hold of them to check if they have validated the same. LDP folks have Battery working but haven't used MADC to measure...
  • [07:05:34] <ds2> mru: bring a yardlong mug for the beer event?
  • [07:05:50] <mru> we don't have those here
  • [07:05:55] <mru> we use pint glasses
  • [07:05:59] <mru> *proper* pints
  • [07:06:07] <ds2> who uses the yard longs?
  • [07:06:15] <mru> the yanks
  • [07:06:28] <mru> only place I've seen 'em at least
  • [07:06:29] <sakoman> never seen it here
  • [07:06:39] <ds2> don't think we have them... some place in EU uses them
  • [07:06:43] <sakoman> guess I don't get around enough :-)
  • [07:06:50] <sakoman> sounds like a German thing to me
  • [07:06:54] <mru> saw them in california
  • [07:07:09] <mru> no, germans use the mug with a handle
  • [07:07:13] <sakoman> heh, you can find just about anything in California
  • [07:07:31] <mru> that's why I enjoy going there
  • [07:07:52] <ds2> steins?
  • [07:09:14] <mru> http://www.truebeer.com/assets/images/german-beer-mug-2(1).jpg
  • [07:09:20] <khasim> sakoman: you have your picture some where ? :)
  • [07:10:19] <ds2> it is used by the english - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yard_(beer)
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  • [07:11:21] <sakoman> khasim: you mean a picture of myself?
  • [07:12:27] <mru> ds2: maybe it was invented here, but I've never seen one in use
  • [07:13:06] <ds2> oh
  • [07:13:33] <ds2> mru: in that case, I should ask... do people there eat fish and chips? :)
  • [07:13:40] <khasim> sakoman: yes
  • [07:13:42] <mru> they do
  • [07:14:04] <sakoman> khasim: there's probably one on the web somewhere
  • [07:15:33] <sakoman> khasim: here's one - http://www.bedoper.com/bedoper/2004/twentythird.htm
  • [07:15:52] <mru> ;-)
  • [07:17:46] * ds2 notes to make a copy of that to hand out to the ushers }:-)
  • [07:18:08] <sakoman> mru: that's me after eating too many of those mooshed peas you guys eat with your fish & chips
  • [07:18:25] * mru does not eat the peas
  • [07:18:37] <mru> then again, I'm not british either
  • [07:24:51] * garren|work hates mooshed peas but I like fish and chips
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  • [07:27:28] <sakoman> time for sleep. good night all!
  • [07:28:11] <garren|work> nite
  • [07:28:39] * mru discovers that brussels is one of those cities where streets have two names
  • [07:37:12] <ds2> Rue de FOO and FOO ave? :)
  • [07:42:12] <mru> FOOstraat, yes
  • [07:42:40] <ds2> took me a day to figure that out
  • [07:45:42] <mru> ok, taxi's here
  • [07:46:40] <ds2> have fun
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  • [08:27:43] * koen always ends up in the part of brussels that pretends to don't understand dutch
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  • [08:42:13] <garren|work> koen: in South AFrica we have 11 official languages, ending up in my own country where they dont speak your language is a great possiblility :-)
  • [08:42:38] <methril> good morning
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  • [08:49:44] <koen> garren|work: I guess afrikaans shouldn't be too hard for me to understand
  • [09:04:18] <garren|work> koen: its quite close, when I hear people speak dutch I sort of get an idea of what they saying...
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  • [09:31:08] <_apk> koen are you Dutch?
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  • [09:32:50] <koen> _apk: yes
  • [09:32:56] <_apk> I'm relocating, from Rome-Italy, to Amsterdam next week :)
  • [09:33:20] <_apk> do you know if Dutch institutions organize entry level Dutch courses?
  • [09:33:25] <keesj> _apk: welcome then
  • [09:33:37] <_apk> thanks keesj :)))
  • [09:34:06] <AV500> let
  • [09:34:15] <_apk> trying to look for a work but I'm facing with the need of knowing Dutch ehehe
  • [09:34:22] <AV500> let's start: what is "beagle board" in dutch?
  • [09:34:42] <garren|work> lol
  • [09:35:10] <AV500> "brak raad"?
  • [09:35:30] <garren|work> I would say "hond board"?
  • [09:35:43] <AV500> dog board?
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  • [09:36:38] <AV500> I like the german one: "Sp??rhundbrett"
  • [09:36:54] <keesj> Gekke hondeplaatje
  • [09:37:01] <koen> heh
  • [09:37:08] * AV500 is registering "sp??rhundbrett.de"...
  • [09:37:25] <koen> umlautsareannoying.com
  • [09:37:46] * AV500 is registering "spuerhundbrett.de"...
  • [09:38:09] <koen> better :)
  • [09:39:58] <tomba> koiralauta.fi
  • [09:40:12] <keesj> it should really be called beagleTag anyway
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  • [09:43:24] <tomba> why is it beagle anyway?
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  • [09:55:41] <koen> alliteration?
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  • [09:57:14] <likewise> gm
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  • [10:01:04] <AV500> beagle: BestEvmActually(open)GLEventually
  • [10:03:19] <likewise> lol
  • [10:03:53] * AV500 updates the wiki :-)
  • [10:07:08] <koen> DJWillis: connman is now fully working: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/69a2662fc7145714fb54b3072e7dbfe9.png
  • [10:09:47] <garren|work> koen: awesome including entering in Wireless key>
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  • [10:28:06] <DJWillis> koen: nice, was messing with NetworkManager 0.7 to look at suppoting some 3G dongles.
  • [10:28:07] <DJWillis> BBL
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  • [10:32:11] <florian> good morning
  • [10:32:44] <AV500> hi
  • [10:33:26] <koen> hey florian
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  • [10:55:48] <koen> florian: which part of GPE adds the applets on first login?
  • [10:58:05] <florian> koen: gpe-session-scripts
  • [10:58:23] <koen> thanks
  • [10:58:31] <florian> koen: thats in the .mbdock file
  • [10:58:55] * florian thinks we should get rid of the ugly volume control there
  • [11:00:12] <koen> ah, it doesn't add mb-applet-wireless by default
  • [11:00:46] <florian> that's buggy as hell anyway. we need to move this all to the new panel
  • [11:03:13] <koen> I was planning on replacing that with connman-gnome (which should be called conmann-gtk instead)
  • [11:04:15] <koen> connman actually works :)
  • [11:05:58] <florian> good guy... I had the same idea some days ago but it did not compile out of the box and I did not manage to free up time to get it working.
  • [11:06:19] <koen> the moblin ftp site is broken
  • [11:06:56] <koen> florian: http://flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/3257999772/
  • [11:07:14] <koen> the big window is the 'properties' dialog, which isn't needed
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  • [11:08:17] <florian> koen: great!
  • [11:15:48] <kulve> tomba: the messy screen with 800x600 resolution was the TV indeed. Works just fine with another LCD
  • [11:17:13] <kulve> koen: do you have a kernel binary somewhere with oprofile enabled (and with DSS2)?
  • [11:17:30] <koen> kulve: the 2.6.28 in the angstrom demo dir should have both builtin
  • [11:17:32] <kulve> looks like oprofile is broken on my kernel (I doubpt I've broken the user space)
  • [11:17:39] <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [11:19:03] <kulve> koen: thanks, testing
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  • [11:23:16] <kulve> works with that
  • [11:23:51] <kulve> have anybody tested oprofiling with some 2.6.29rc-something kernels? Did I just mess something up while merging couple of trees or what..
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  • [11:45:33] <mpoullet> good afternoon
  • [11:49:03] <Viral_Sachde> mpoullet: Good Day
  • [11:54:41] <mib_5utk65> how can i prevent fb from blanking?
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  • [11:54:51] <tomba> kulve: ok
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  • [12:23:29] <amadeus> OMAP3 beagleboard.org # mmcinit OMAP3 beagleboard.org # fatload mmc 0 0x80200000 x-load.bin.ift ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **
  • [12:23:35] <amadeus> what am I doing wrong???
  • [12:26:04] <amadeus> hello? any ideas?
  • [12:27:53] <adj> amadeus: have you tried with another card?
  • [12:28:31] <amadeus> no,,, but i think i just wrote the wrong info to the NAND and now i have nothing in the console
  • [12:28:37] <amadeus> no beagle logo either
  • [12:29:48] <amadeus> is there any way to get everything back???
  • [12:30:33] <adj> yep, boot from SD/MMC and reflash nand
  • [12:30:52] <amadeus> kk, not sure how... lol
  • [12:31:08] <adj> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Board_recovery
  • [12:32:30] <koen> sweet, new musb patches on l-o ml
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  • [12:53:39] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:54:15] <jkridner> amadeus: did you do mmcinit first?
  • [12:54:49] <[X]Spot> Hi guys
  • [12:59:00] <[X]Spot> When I am compiling applications with bitbake.. where should I set what are the dependencies of one compiled package?
  • [12:59:24] <jkridner> DEPENDS?
  • [12:59:30] <koen> [X]Spot: the shlibs code takes care of binary deps
  • [12:59:44] <koen> [X]Spot: things you need for *building* a package are set in DEPENDS
  • [13:01:32] <[X]Spot> ok thanks ;)
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  • [13:04:23] <koen> jkridner: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=dd7c96e51a1953f389d47b3a1128ae1761bf627c
  • [13:04:42] <jkridner> does that fix the text issue?
  • [13:05:12] <koen> it should
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  • [13:05:30] <koen> I'm still in SGX land, so I haven't tested the fix myself
  • [13:05:47] <koen> I can only say that 16bpp still works with it
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  • [13:23:39] <koen> RogerMon1: how's the snow?
  • [13:23:58] <RogerMon1> hi koen
  • [13:24:05] <RogerMon1> pretty deep in northampton
  • [13:24:37] <RogerMon1> industrial estate grid-locked...
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  • [13:31:25] <koen> RogerMon1: another work-from-home day?
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  • [13:32:11] <RogerMon1> yep - a coding, without testing day :)
  • [13:32:33] <ali_as> RogerMon1, Northampton England?
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  • [13:45:25] <RogerMon1> ali_as - yes
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  • [13:51:05] <sakoman> good morning
  • [13:53:18] <garren|work> sakoman: good morning
  • [13:54:11] <sakoman> koen: can't build connman here :-(
  • [13:54:31] <sakoman> dies because of bluez4 dependency
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  • [13:54:48] <sakoman> | hid2hci.c:(.text+0xd0): undefined reference to `libusb_init'
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  • [13:55:18] <koen> didn't a patch get added for that?
  • [13:55:38] <sakoman> but on the bright side, the few sgx tests I tried seem to work on the 3530 Overo
  • [13:56:02] <sakoman> koen: just pulled a moment ago, so I don't think so!
  • [13:56:36] <mib_5utk65> can i build a static version of powertop
  • [13:56:54] <koen> sakoman: does bitbaking libusb-compat help?
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  • [14:00:52] <sakoman> koen: trying that now. in the meantime, are there any interesting sgx demos available?
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  • [14:01:33] <koen> sakoman: the sdk should have a few
  • [14:01:34] <sakoman> the sgx_ tests are kind of boring ;-)
  • [14:02:03] <sakoman> I'll look in the sdk, thanks
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  • [14:04:20] <sakoman> koen: Doing a rebuild on libusb-compat did the trick
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  • [14:08:03] <Batko_Marto> hey guys I'm having a usb issue with the console-image. If i have my usb devices connected at boot they are detected, but if i unplug and plug back in there are no devices found. I have the 2.6.28 kernel any ideas?
  • [14:08:19] <koen> sakoman: I PM'ed you links to more demos
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  • [14:08:51] <Batko_Marto> Am I missing a kernel module or it's a package not being included with console-image
  • [14:08:51] <craw> can i access physical memory adresses from the dsp?
  • [14:09:38] <AV500> yes
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  • [14:10:28] <Batko_Marto> I know that it works fine with the beagleboard-demo-image
  • [14:10:49] <AV500> just programm the DSP MMU accordingly
  • [14:11:23] <craw> how can i do that?
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  • [14:16:59] <tthtlc> hi
  • [14:21:26] <tthtlc> bitbake-->its gcc cross compilation tool is from where? crosstool?
  • [14:22:57] <koen> OE builds its own tools
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  • [14:24:44] <tthtlc> so is bitbake customized only for beagleboard?
  • [14:24:58] <koen> no
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  • [14:25:20] <koen> OE can build its own toolchains for many targets and configurations
  • [14:25:28] <craw> that is determined by your configfile
  • [14:25:32] <tthtlc> i attempted bitbake console-image as root, but it disallowed me, is that a correct behavior?
  • [14:25:43] <koen> yes
  • [14:25:53] <tthtlc> i see...thank you koen.
  • [14:25:54] <koen> you don't want to be crosscompiling things as root
  • [14:26:14] <tthtlc> ok....
  • [14:26:37] <garren|work> koen: did you do developmetn on OE?
  • [14:26:38] <koen> if a package does the wrong thing it will overwrite stuff on your host
  • [14:26:52] <koen> garren|work: what kind of development?
  • [14:27:27] <garren|work> bitbake?
  • [14:27:45] <koen> I haven't done anything for bitbake
  • [14:27:45] <garren|work> where you one of the guys that started OE is what I really mean :-)
  • [14:27:58] <AV500> craw: well, you could use DSPLINK which would do that for u...
  • [14:28:06] <garren|work> tthtlc: some of the machines supported http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Category:Machine
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  • [14:28:21] <AV500> but as I have no idea about where you are, I can offer little immediate help
  • [14:28:21] <koen> garren|work: I didn't start it
  • [14:28:43] <koen> garren|work: https://www.ohloh.net/p/3928/contributors
  • [14:29:25] <craw> AV500: i am using dsplink, so i would not need to configure the mmu anywhere?
  • [14:29:32] <AV500> nope
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  • [14:30:00] <AV500> dsplink has an idea about CMEM, it maps this part of the ARM mem into the DSP
  • [14:30:24] <garren|work> ok... how early one did you get involved?
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  • [14:30:57] <Batko_Marto> could the usb issue that i have be because "hal" is not in the image?
  • [14:30:58] <koen> garren|work: a few months after they started
  • [14:31:13] <koen> Batko_Marto: not really
  • [14:31:20] <garren|work> ok cool
  • [14:31:32] <craw> i currently use CMEM_alloc to get a pointer to cmem, then CMEM_getPhys and want to transfer that adress, so accessing it should work?
  • [14:31:40] <Batko_Marto> koen: any idea why this is happening?
  • [14:31:43] <RogerMonk> craw - what physical memory are you trying to access?
  • [14:32:03] <RogerMonk> better / easier would be to use the CE Memory_xx api's to alloc memory and pass these
  • [14:32:03] <AV500> RogerMonk: the one he gets from CMEM_alloc
  • [14:32:20] <AV500> RogerMonk: not sure he is using CE...
  • [14:32:29] <RogerMonk> Memory_xxx alloc'd buffers are configured into the DSP memory map by CE
  • [14:32:30] <craw> i am not... yet ;)
  • [14:32:34] <RogerMonk> much the easiest way
  • [14:32:44] <RogerMonk> 'scale' example shows this well
  • [14:33:30] <RogerMonk> alloc buffers on arm side (via Memory_xx (=via CMEM on omap/davinci) , send to DSP via CE, DSP operates on the buffers and sends them back to ARM
  • [14:33:47] <RogerMonk> easy example to modify for 'real' processing function
  • [14:33:53] <AV500> yes, if using CE (hint, hint) :-)
  • [14:34:15] <RogerMonk> AV500, yep, exactly - I'm trying to guide down this path, since it sounds like early on in development
  • [14:34:24] <craw> ok ok, you convinced me ;)
  • [14:35:01] <AV500> RogerMonk: but he remains MY convert :-)
  • [14:35:19] <RogerMonk> fine with me :)
  • [14:35:27] <RogerMonk> (nice one!)
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  • [14:36:19] <craw> (you really both did :) )
  • [14:36:20] <RogerMonk> craw - keen to hear how u get on - want to make this stuff as easy as possible 4 u
  • [14:37:09] <RogerMonk> craw - don't want to force this on you, but from working with a bunch of folks, they've found this a good way to get things going
  • [14:37:52] <mib_5utk65> when i run powertop. it screws up my screen. i only see half the screen.
  • [14:38:09] <mib_5utk65> how do i undo the damage done by powertop
  • [14:38:15] <mib_5utk65> any busybox command?
  • [14:38:19] <mib_5utk65> reset does not work
  • [14:38:57] <garren|work> bye all
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  • [14:42:09] <craw> RogerMonk: you aren't forcing, i justed wanted to try if that algorithm is working (which i hope is done when accessing that memory from dsp side) :)
  • [14:42:46] <tthtlc> thank you garren|work for the link.
  • [14:43:53] <tthtlc> anyone done omap5912 development?
  • [14:44:42] <AV500> 4 years ago, 5910
  • [14:44:48] <koen> Crofton|work uses osk5912
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  • [14:47:55] <tthtlc> i have a hardware osk5912....but i don't know how to flash it
  • [14:48:29] <eFfeM> tthtlc: if i recall correctly you can connect over usb to a pc and run an upgrade app
  • [14:48:48] <eFfeM> not sure where I found the info or the name of the program; maybe the elinux wiki
  • [14:49:09] <tthtlc> yes....the manual says use windows...as the minicom for linux does not work.
  • [14:49:47] <tthtlc> but that is not really a solution for me....as my environment is all linux, no windows machine
  • [14:50:29] <eFfeM> yes the app i used was a windows app
  • [14:50:33] <eFfeM> oskhost or something like that
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  • [14:52:42] <eFfeM> koen, if you start coherence on beagle what does it say? The svn version does not show a server on my tv when run from beagle, but it works like a charm if i run the same version from opensuse; the text displayed is also different (the beagle one ends with set allmulti), would like to compare with yours
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  • [15:01:58] <koen> eFfeM: http://pastebin.com/m2311f867
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  • [15:10:27] <eFfeM> koen, mine is at http://pastebin.com/d59cc432 ; note the set allmulti after starting also my log is much different
  • [15:11:16] <koen> I removed the eth0 thing from my config file
  • [15:11:56] <eFfeM> ah ok
  • [15:13:04] <eFfeM> koen, then I also get the hostname cannot be resolved; but still not something like "running on host: 172.20.2.26 (coherence/base.py:309)" which is probably the source of my problems
  • [15:13:15] <eFfeM> already removed all python modules and reinstalled them from the feed
  • [15:14:16] <eFfeM> did you do something to get the info lines? on opensuse i see them neither
  • [15:14:47] <eFfeM> koen, btw if i comment out the eth0 line i *still* get the set allmulti line
  • [15:17:23] <eFfeM> found how to enable info
  • [15:24:06] <eFfeM> hhhhhm. not sure why/how but suddenly it started working; although i did not really change things
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  • [15:28:24] <eFfeM> koen, any particular reason to comment out the eth0 line ?
  • [15:29:26] <eFfeM> for some reason i now do get flickr but not the test content
  • [15:29:29] * eFfeM is puzzled
  • [15:30:05] <eFfeM> or is this the one requiring axiom
  • [15:31:51] <koen> I think the test contents wants to build a db
  • [15:31:56] <koen> so you'd need axiom for that
  • [15:32:36] <eFfeM> on opensuse i also have the axiom error and there it works
  • [15:32:44] <eFfeM> but noticed gobject was not on beagle
  • [15:33:02] <eFfeM> no difference :-)
  • [15:33:26] <eFfeM> koen can you share your .coherence ?
  • [15:34:32] <koen> eFfeM: http://pastebin.com/d24b527e
  • [15:34:54] <eFfeM> koen thanks!
  • [15:35:00] <eFfeM> koen, btw are you going to fosdem ?
  • [15:36:08] <eFfeM> koen you also do not get the test content server ?
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  • [15:36:29] <koen> eFfeM: not sure yet about fosdem
  • [15:36:47] <koen> and I also don't get the test content
  • [15:37:42] <eFfeM> i'll probably go one day, but still have to look at the schedule to see which day
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  • [15:41:30] <eFfeM> koen with yoor .coherence i do not get the allmulti line any more, main difference I see is that you uncommented the control point line
  • [15:41:49] <eFfeM> koen, how many servers do you get? I only get flickr and lolcats with your .coherence
  • [15:42:06] <eFfeM> btw if you change limit = you can get more flickr pics
  • [15:42:20] <sakoman> koen: hmm . . . including connman-gnome in my image seems to have had a bad effect. networking is broq :-(
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  • [15:42:50] <sakoman> will rebuild without to make sure
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  • [16:16:22] <eFfeM> koen AppleStore and FSStore work for me on opensuse but not on beagle, guess i am still missing some modules
  • [16:18:58] <ali_as> RogerMon1, Sorry, afk for a while. Unusual to talk to someone from the UK, let alone someone from the same county, I'm neer kettering!
  • [16:26:52] <craw> undefined symvol: _LOG_A_TABBEG first referenced in: bioslog.a64P<LogServer.o64P>
  • [16:27:16] <craw> the error i am getting when trying to compile the video_copy server from codecengine
  • [16:27:40] <craw> (its linking actually) can anyone help?
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  • [16:29:01] <Vincent2> Hi
  • [16:29:22] <Vincent2> I'm working on OMAP, trying to load the mmc driver as a module
  • [16:30:02] <Vincent2> compilation is ok, but when I insmod the host, i got this error :
  • [16:30:13] <Vincent2> omap_hsmmc: Unknown symbol scalability_status
  • [16:30:23] <Vincent2> insmod: cannot insert 'host/omap_hsmmc.ko': unknown symbol in module
  • [16:30:33] <Vincent2> any idea ?
  • [16:30:50] <eFfeM> Vincent2: this means your code depends on a kernel symbol or a symbol exported by another module (which is not loaded)
  • [16:31:11] <Vincent2> oh ok
  • [16:31:46] <Vincent2> any idea how can i find who should create this symbol ?
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  • [16:38:52] <javaJake> Vincent2: make sure you have all the modules you built in /lib/modules/... and try using modprobe instead of insmod (though I'm not sure if that really matters).
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  • [16:47:40] <Vincent2> javaJake: I don't have the modules directory in /lib
  • [16:47:51] <javaJake> Vincent2: that would be a problem :)
  • [16:48:24] <javaJake> Make sure, after running modules_install on your host, you copy the appropriate folder to /lib
  • [16:50:37] <Vincent2> well I'm off .. i'll see that next monday
  • [16:51:00] <Vincent2> @ all : have a good week-end
  • [16:51:03] <Vincent2> cya
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  • [16:52:07] <koen> eFfeM: that python-pygobject dep should be in python-gst
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  • [16:55:23] <jkridner|work> all, I've been a trying to hold out for SGX/DSP support on the latest kernels prior to promoting the next software design contest.
  • [16:55:41] <jkridner|work> seems like we are getting close, but still running well into February.
  • [16:56:03] <jkridner|work> any feeling about when this should be pushed on the mailing list?
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  • [16:59:34] <eFfeM> koen, i did non have pygobject loaded .... gst does have a DEPENDS on pygobject though, no idea why i did not have it (i have gst loaded)
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  • [17:01:32] <sakoman> jkridner|work: feels a bit early to me. support is till rough enough that it would be tough for people to get anything reasonable done before end of month
  • [17:03:28] <jkridner|work> I'm thinking we could slip the contest for the month to try to get SGX/DSP applications as a focus.
  • [17:03:41] <jkridner|work> thoughts?
  • [17:08:03] <sakoman> jkridner|work: no concrete thoughts. still trying to wrap my head around getting sgx integrated and tested. haven't even looked at the dsp side!
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  • [17:20:46] * koen tried beagleboard-demo-image on a pda: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/3257768551/
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  • [17:33:09] <sakoman> koen: I tried the overo equivalent of demo image on a 480x272 LCD
  • [17:33:30] <sakoman> it was a less than satisfying experience :-)
  • [17:33:38] <sakoman> need more pixels!
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  • [18:11:32] <vu3rdd> jkridner: good morning
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  • [18:14:02] <eFfeM> koen, added package for gdata (google data api); that will allow serving youtube data through coherence (not tried that part yet)
  • [18:16:50] <ds2> Morning
  • [18:17:12] <ds2> sakoman: would you say that particular LCD is disappointing?
  • [18:19:12] <koen> eFfeM: cool!
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  • [18:26:52] <sakoman_> ds2: no - just the wrong image for that resolution
  • [18:27:14] <sakoman_> it would be an ideal LCD for lots of embedded applications
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  • [18:27:38] <sakoman_> it's just the wrong resolution for a "desktop" tailored image
  • [18:28:50] <ds2> it is an odd ball size
  • [18:29:10] <ds2> trying to decide between that or 320x240
  • [18:29:24] <ds2> 320x240 has some complications with the interface
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  • [18:31:01] <eFfeM> koen, also tried to build axiom but it depends on twisted-native which does not build; guess fixing that one is above my paygrade :-) Anyway don't have time for it any more today or tomorrow (decided to go to fosdem tomorrow)
  • [18:31:12] <sakoman_> ds2: I think I would pick 480x272 over the 320x240
  • [18:31:25] <sakoman_> of course there is the cost budget to consider too
  • [18:32:01] <eFfeM> calling it a day....
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  • [18:33:03] <ds2> got both in hand ;)
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  • [18:44:17] <dirk2> mmh, nobody from the U-Boot MUSB experts here? Anybody can confirm that in drivers/usb/usbdcore_musb.c in line 235 the assignment 'if ((size =' is really correct? http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/usbdcore_musb.c;h=3094e581cdab3bd72d0d618c58b62bfceef44a32;hb=refs/heads/omap3-dev-usb#l235
  • [18:45:21] <craw> http://rafb.net/p/kl207Q45.html this is codecengines implementation to convert a physical address to the dsps virtual address?
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  • [18:46:05] <koen> sakoman_: any troubles building skybox2?
  • [18:46:15] <koen> sakoman_: or just a matter of "just run make"?
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  • [18:46:34] <craw> http://rafb.net/p/kI207Q45.html
  • [18:46:39] <craw> i am sorry that one is it
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  • [18:51:37] <Batko_Marto> hey guys, can you suggest any alternative to syslog-ng as it fails in the fetch stage?
  • [18:57:46] <koen> ah, there we go
  • [18:57:51] <koen> wifi and bluetooth working on overo
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  • [19:02:35] <Batko_Marto> sysklogd doesn't compile either
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  • [19:04:05] <Batko_Marto> are there any other loggers in OE?
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  • [19:21:04] <jkridner|work> koen: does kexec work on Beagle?
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  • [19:22:05] <koen> jkridner|work: it should, it's enabled in the angstrom kernels
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  • [19:24:38] <ds2> this headed to disarray :(
  • [19:25:01] <jkridner|work> hopefully disarray early will result in cleaning things up?
  • [19:25:23] <koen> the faster you screw up, the more time you have to fix it
  • [19:25:26] <jkridner|work> Ideally for ESC we'll have the old setup and something "bleeding edge".
  • [19:25:31] <ds2> deadlines and rapid changes do not co-exists
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  • [19:25:43] <jkridner|work> kexec allows us to distribute the burden.
  • [19:25:50] <ds2> I shall hush.
  • [19:26:02] <jkridner|work> ds2: no need. speak up.
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  • [19:27:23] <koen> jkridner|work: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/armv5-kexecboot-initramfs.cpio.gz
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  • [19:37:01] <florian> re
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  • [19:53:31] <koen> hmmm
  • [19:53:44] * koen wonders why people post 4 identical messages to the mailinglist
  • [19:54:04] <denix> jkridner|work: ping?
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  • [20:00:40] <ds2> so you took a breath? :D
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  • [20:02:07] <jkridner|work> pong
  • [20:02:19] <jkridner|work> denix: looking for you on the call.
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  • [20:16:14] <keesj> they must be using a threaded mail client
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  • [20:18:00] <sakoman_> koen: I was confused :-)
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  • [20:18:59] <sakoman_> upon a closer look I see that the skybox binary was distributed with the SDK
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  • [20:19:54] <sakoman_> I thought (mistakenly) that it was built as part of the module build process
  • [20:20:22] <sakoman_> but once I looked at time stamps I see that this isn't the case
  • [20:20:38] <sakoman_> now I'll have to look at the demo build files :-(
  • [20:23:14] <sakoman_> at any rate, the demo binaries that come with the sdk seem to work
  • [20:23:56] * koen distrusts binaries
  • [20:24:06] <sakoman_> me too :-)
  • [20:24:12] <koen> and yet, I distrust interpreted code like python even more
  • [20:24:26] <sakoman_> that's why the demo build got added to my to do list
  • [20:24:41] <sakoman_> (at the bottom of the list though :-)
  • [20:25:17] * koen downgrades his "great!" a bit
  • [20:28:09] <sakoman_> yeah, my woot got heavily downgraded
  • [20:30:26] <sakoman_> maybe we will be lucky and it will be as simple as "just run make"
  • [20:31:08] <koen> SDKDIR=${S} make -C build/linuxgeneric
  • [20:31:15] <koen> or something like that
  • [20:31:27] <koen> it looks like what I'd call a 'vender makefile'
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  • [20:33:25] <sakoman_> yeah, I was just looking at that
  • [20:34:19] <sakoman_> I'm afaid to try it, because I have a bunch of other stuff to get done
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  • [20:34:58] <koen> at least it doesn't look like the recursive make TI seems to be fond of
  • [20:35:12] <koen> which messes up passing vars big time
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  • [21:52:19] <mib_ebqop7> whats the difference between a computer and this beacleborad????
  • [21:57:12] <jkridner|work> beagleboard is a computer, but a specific type of computer. it is ARM based.
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  • [22:00:38] <mib_ebqop7> but do i have to upload windos, leopard, i rally don get it
  • [22:01:02] <jkridner|work> most people use Linux on the BeagleBoard.
  • [22:01:31] <mib_ebqop7> can it acces to internet????
  • [22:01:34] <jkridner|work> Android, WinCE, OKL4, FreeBSD, are also possible options.
  • [22:01:53] <jkridner|work> Yes. It will run Firefox 3 as well.
  • [22:02:00] <jkridner|work> Webkit.
  • [22:02:14] <jkridner|work> I wouldn't recommend it if you aren't into experimentation.
  • [22:02:15] <mib_ebqop7> whats webkit?
  • [22:02:36] <jkridner|work> another web browser. Google's Chrome browser is based on Webkit.
  • [22:02:48] <jkridner|work> Apple's Safari browser is based on Webkit.
  • [22:02:59] <jix> mib_ebqop7: you have to be aware that you won't be able to run most closed source software on beagleboard
  • [22:03:24] <mib_ebqop7> i wna to usea it in a electronic project, but i dont really know how to use it
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  • [22:04:39] <mib_ebqop7> can it run java prorams?
  • [22:04:46] <mib_ebqop7> programs*
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  • [22:13:05] <mib_ebqop7> somebody there??
  • [22:14:32] <javaJake> mib_ebqop7: are you asking if the BeagleBoard can run java?
  • [22:14:50] * bkero bangs head against wall.
  • [22:14:56] <javaJake> :P
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  • [22:15:25] <javaJake> *after reading backlog*
  • [22:16:15] <javaJake> mib_ebqop7: it appears you want to use this "normally". How much experience do you have with Linux?
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  • [22:20:55] <ZeZu> fuq.. i have to switch back to 2.6.22 and get this crap working or i dont get to go to ESC with it
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  • [22:30:56] <javaJake> OK, I've got quite an issue.
  • [22:31:13] <javaJake> I get a prompt on my BeagleBoard, running a custom cross-compiled Gentoo, and I can type in it
  • [22:31:32] <javaJake> I have previously cleared the root password via "passwd -d root" so that I am sure password is not the issue
  • [22:31:48] <javaJake> However, whenever I type in "root" for a username, it still asks for a password, and tells me my login is incorrect.
  • [22:32:41] <javaJake> I am asking here, because I am doing this all over a serial console, and, while I don't know how it could, I think the serial console is messing it up.
  • [22:32:52] <javaJake> ...and you guys deal with serial consoles all the time. :)
  • [22:33:28] <mib_ebqop7> can i see pages with java interface
  • [22:33:38] <javaJake> mib_ebqop7: you mean the java plugin?
  • [22:33:43] <mib_ebqop7> ywap
  • [22:34:17] <javaJake> mib_ebqop7: I believe so, let me check
  • [22:34:33] <mib_ebqop7> please
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  • [22:36:09] <javaJake> Oops :)
  • [22:36:12] <javaJake> There we are
  • [22:36:21] <mib_z2vase> sorry here i am again
  • [22:36:24] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: yes, it looks like it can run on ARM processors
  • [22:36:37] <javaJake> I haven't tested it myself, though.
  • [22:36:43] <mib_z2vase> do you own a beagleboard??
  • [22:36:48] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: yes, I do.
  • [22:37:07] <mib_z2vase> whant can not you do with that
  • [22:37:43] <mib_z2vase> all pages run well?
  • [22:38:04] <mib_z2vase> how fast is it for internet loading and refreshing?
  • [22:38:37] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: I have not gotten to the GUI stage yet, as I don't have a monitor that accepts DVI input, and S-Video out requires special configuring.
  • [22:39:18] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: I can tell you it will run Firefox fine, but it will be a bit slower than an average PC (not by much, though).
  • [22:39:20] <mib_z2vase> i thought it worked with HD tv
  • [22:39:37] <javaJake> If the TV accepts DVI input, or if you have a DVI->HDMI convertor, sure.
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  • [22:41:13] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: if you have such a monitor, then try the Angstrom demo. It has Firefox pre-isntalled, I believe, though you'll have to install/cross-compile Java yourself.
  • [22:41:29] <javaJake> monitor or TV I mean
  • [22:41:52] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: what are you trying to do?
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  • [22:45:17] <javaJake> securetty, duh. I added ttyS2 to securetty and now I can log in as root. :P
  • [22:45:22] <javaJake> Wow
  • [22:45:28] <javaJake> A prompt. A real, working prompt.
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  • [22:46:23] <mib_z2vase> hey
  • [22:46:37] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: hey, you're back. :)
  • [22:46:46] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: what are you trying to do with the BeagleBoard?
  • [22:47:59] <mib_z2vase> i want to show a web page on a TV, and i wnat to refresh the webpage every 20secs
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  • [22:49:16] <javaJake> Ahhhh
  • [22:49:21] <javaJake> That's a piece of cake, then ;)
  • [22:49:31] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: do you have a display with DVI input?
  • [22:49:37] <mib_z2vase> nope
  • [22:51:01] <Batko_Marto> hey guys, my usb devices only get detected at boot. If I unplug and plug again they are not detected. I have udev installed. Any Ideas how to fix that?
  • [22:51:11] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: then you might have a problem.
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  • [22:51:17] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: do you have S-Video in?
  • [22:51:58] <mib_z2vase> nope
  • [22:52:20] <mib_z2vase> but you know, maybe i can hace a dvi display
  • [22:53:15] <javaJake> You need a modern display of some kind :)
  • [22:53:46] <javaJake> Or, you need an S-Video-to-composite adapter
  • [22:53:56] <javaJake> But the resolution will be pretty rough.
  • [22:54:03] <javaJake> You really want DVI.
  • [22:57:57] <mib_z2vase> ok, but i dont really know how to upload linux or any other system
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  • [23:00:22] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: right, you need an SD card, SD card reader, power cable that matches the specs for the BeagleBoard, a serial port on a computer, a Null-modem/Direct-connection serial cable (female-to-female), and an DB9M to IDC10F serial adapter.
  • [23:00:58] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: that's just to boot the BeagleBoard. Anything else requires more stuff. In your case, you'll need the special BeagleBoard video-out cable.
  • [23:02:59] <mib_z2vase> ok, but there is like a manual of intructions for upload the system?
  • [23:03:06] <mib_z2vase> so i can do it
  • [23:03:08] <javaJake> Alright, I don't get this. Why am I getting "device descriptor read/64, error -71" errors when I try to use my BB in gadget mode? :/
  • [23:03:10] <mib_z2vase> easyer
  • [23:03:16] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: well, do you have those components?
  • [23:03:29] <mib_z2vase> i wil buy it really soon
  • [23:03:36] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: you need those before you can follow the instructions, which are here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [23:03:48] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: also, the parts I mentioned you can find here: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList
  • [23:04:26] <javaJake> mib_z2vase: if you don't have a USB-to-ethernet adapter, you might want to look into something that'll allow you to network your BeagleBoard through USB.
  • [23:04:36] <javaJake> Like a wireless USB dongle.
  • [23:05:18] <javaJake> Has anyone here used USB gadget mode with a BeagleBoard successfully? :/
  • [23:08:02] <javaJake> No one? :P
  • [23:09:08] <Batko_Marto> guys any idea about the usb only detected at boot?
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  • [23:38:36] <javaJake> Anyone know why I'm getting these errors on host when plugging in my BB? http://dpaste.com/117640/
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