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  • [00:13:00] <Crofton|work> jkridner|work, I like Robert's idea the best :)
  • [00:13:56] <ds2> you talking about the USB via sysfs thing on the M/L?
  • [00:15:05] <Gareth> jkridner|work: :)
  • [00:15:08] <jkridner|work> Crofton|work: absolutely.
  • [00:15:42] <jkridner|work> we had it working at one point with the TI originated kernels.
  • [00:16:09] <jkridner|work> not sure where the feature is at off the closer-to-mainline kernels.
  • [00:16:24] <vlad> hm, can't remember if I asked this here already... anyone have a source for some fast yuv -> rgb conversion code, preferably with SSE and ARM NEON variants?
  • [00:17:36] <Crofton|work> I'm back in business, so I lost interest in the issue, sort off
  • [00:17:55] <Crofton|work> if we get a chance we should ask some of the usb people
  • [00:18:44] <Crofton|work> ok, hopefully I have gnuradio built with neon dot product again
  • [00:18:51] <Crofton|work> only one manky bit not commited
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  • [00:23:35] <jkridner|work> is that a floating point dot-product?
  • [00:23:54] <Crofton|work> yes
  • [00:23:58] <Crofton|work> for now :)
  • [00:24:47] <jkridner|work> vlad: I guess DSP code wouldn't work for you?
  • [00:25:16] <jkridner|work> well, I'm packing up for the day.
  • [00:25:19] <vlad> jkridner|work: hrm, that's an interesting question.. probably not initially
  • [00:25:22] <vlad> see ya :)
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  • [04:41:12] <talkboxier> does anybody know what the graphics processor on the beagleboard can be compared to?
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  • [05:49:02] <talkboxier> hello
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  • [07:08:43] <garren|work> morning all
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  • [08:48:16] <koen> good morning all
  • [08:48:30] <DJWillis> Hola koen
  • [08:50:18] <garren|work> morning koen
  • [08:53:42] <zaphod__> morning koen
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  • [08:59:49] <pogi> woo
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  • [09:11:32] <mckoan> recalcati: ciao
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  • [09:47:06] <vpdn> I just purchased a beagleboard. Now need to get the serial cable to connect to my pc.
  • [09:47:31] <vpdn> Do I get it right that I need a null-modem cable?
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  • [09:49:03] <florian> good morning
  • [09:49:06] <PhastPhrog> Morning too
  • [09:49:13] <PhastPhrog> vpdn: Yes
  • [09:49:30] <PhastPhrog> You need a null modem cable AND the correct BeagleBoard to D9 cable
  • [09:49:51] <PhastPhrog> You need the one that's wired like this: http://www.pccables.com/07120.htm
  • [09:50:14] <vpdn> PhastPhrog: right means 1:1 wiring correct?
  • [09:50:30] <PhastPhrog> correct. Sometimes called "straight through"
  • [09:50:53] <PhastPhrog> You can also find this type: http://www.pccables.com/07121.htm Which is Wrong and won't work
  • [09:51:04] <PhastPhrog> Very confusing. I learnt the hard way :-)
  • [09:52:35] <vpdn> yeah, I couldn't find any straight wiring at my local electronics store, so I'm thinking of getting this:
  • [09:52:37] <vpdn> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=5;GROUP=C694;GROUPID=3337;ARTICLE=30062;START=0;SORT=user;OFFSET=16;SID=29upuRkqwQAR0AAGXkYSQ248851898adee85329352c1dd8bf61eb
  • [09:52:57] <vpdn> which has a null-modem wiring, and then get a straight through cable.
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  • [09:56:07] <koen> RogerMonk: I have recipe for building DMAI that seems to work, but the neuros kernel lacks things like davincifb_ioctl.h
  • [09:56:20] <PhastPhrog> vpdn: that might work.
  • [09:56:42] <PhastPhrog> Should probably check the wiring to be sure, but the idea makes sense
  • [09:57:58] <garren|work> vpdn: else just wire it up yourself, thats what I did, I couldn't find any available cables.
  • [09:59:43] <vpdn> garren|work: That's what I thought as well. Crazy to pay over 16$ for a simple cable (digikey)
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  • [10:03:28] <garren|work> vpdn: excatly and its quite easy to make.
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  • [10:14:51] <craw> hi there
  • [10:15:17] <craw> i switched my beagle today but my framebuffer issues are not really resolved yet:
  • [10:16:12] <craw> i am getting the beagle splash and afterwards a login shell prompted on the framebuffer but then all of a sudden the screen turns black and my monitor keeps telling me "no signal" again
  • [10:16:58] <craw> can anyone guess what might be wrong here?
  • [10:18:28] <garren|work> craw: what screen do you have?
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  • [10:19:22] <craw> its a hp lp1965 lcd monitor connected via hdmi->dvi
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  • [10:22:41] <garren|work> craw
  • [10:23:01] <garren|work> craw: it might not support the resolution, maybe try a different resolution
  • [10:26:12] <craw> is there a simple way to do that? fbset tells my the display is configured as 1024x768-29 and other modes are not available
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  • [10:36:15] <garren|work> craw: check of you screen can support that resolution
  • [10:36:22] <garren|work> *if
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  • [10:39:13] <eFfeM> hm upgraded uboot on mmc and if i then reboot from flash, if is not known any more (and the u-boot that was on the mailing list also has no hush support apparently
  • [10:39:53] <RogerMonk> koen - morning
  • [10:40:08] <RogerMonk> I'll give your dmai build a try on my davinci evm
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  • [10:43:52] <eFfeM> is the location of u-boot on sd critical? (i know mlo position is)
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  • [10:54:08] <adj> no, it's not
  • [10:55:19] <adj> x-loader loads u-boot.bin from fat file system
  • [10:55:54] <eFfeM> well not sure what happened or why it failed, i rewrote the card file by file and now it is ok
  • [10:56:36] <eFfeM> need to go now, back later
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  • [11:48:27] <jkridner> good morning all.
  • [11:48:32] <PhastPhrog> Morning
  • [11:48:47] <RogerMonk> gm
  • [11:48:55] <jkridner> looks like u-boot patches will finally be pulled into the mainline this weekend!
  • [11:49:02] * jkridner crosses fingers.
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  • [11:54:23] <DJWillis> jkridner: great news
  • [11:55:03] <koen> yay!
  • [11:57:23] <DJWillis> koen: have you messed with UBIFS much other then just seeing if it works?
  • [11:57:58] <koen> just used a rootfs on ubifs on the beagle
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  • [11:58:49] <DJWillis> koen: hand built I assume? Trying to untangle the nest to get it into OE as a background task.
  • [11:59:57] <koen> DJWillis: hrw in #oe was looking to have OE create a ready to flash thing with OE
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  • [12:01:56] <DJWillis> koen: I will poke him
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  • [13:07:45] <koen> sweet
  • [13:08:02] <koen> my beagle just crossed the 100 hour mark of continous webcam streaming on EHCI
  • [13:09:07] <Crofton|work> congrats
  • [13:09:38] <koen> how gnuradio coming along?
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  • [13:11:39] <Crofton|work> http://rafb.net/p/6vMo7m85.html
  • [13:12:06] <Crofton|work> I want to use the --with-md-cpu=arm configure option to force selection of NEON code
  • [13:12:14] <Crofton|work> I'll fix the "arm" later
  • [13:12:46] <Crofton|work> but the only way I can make it work is by putting it in EXTRA_OECONF
  • [13:13:14] <Crofton|work> http://rafb.net/p/uRLO1r86.html
  • [13:13:22] <Crofton|work> doesn't work either
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  • [13:15:08] <Crofton|work> I am beginning to suspect a confugre option orderissue
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  • [13:20:13] <koen> Crofton|work: http://pastebin.com/med5f184
  • [13:20:46] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [13:21:39] <Crofton|work> no order dependnecy
  • [13:21:49] <Crofton|work> no clue what is going on, tryong your method now
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  • [14:22:25] <aleij> i will post some info, that phps could be of interest to any of you:
  • [14:22:26] <aleij> setting up here for the next session: Re-Hacking your World [Fair Trade Hardware]
  • [14:22:26] <aleij> stream at --> http://streams.transmediale.de:8000/tm09salon.ogg
  • [14:22:26] <aleij> the irc chat is at any of this servers: irc.leplacard.org or irc.goto10.org the channel is #tm09salon
  • [14:22:27] <aleij> you are all welcome!
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  • [15:00:04] <recalcati> Hello everybody
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  • [15:13:56] <Crofton|work> what is zlib and why would some guy get a different tarball, that is the question?
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  • [15:25:39] <Crofton|work> koen, gold star for you
  • [15:32:08] <Crofton|work> koen, in the interest on the side of having more stuff work, I'd like to comment out the omap-sgx-modules line in beagleboard.conf so that all modules get installed
  • [15:32:25] <Crofton|work> otherwise, my ethernet dongle does not work on console-image
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  • [15:40:50] <koen> Crofton|work: as I said, installing all kernel modules needs to get done in an image, not in the machine.conf
  • [15:42:02] <koen> Crofton|work: or change pegasus from <M> to <y>
  • [15:42:25] <Crofton|work> I do not like the idea of building it in just because it makes my set of hw work
  • [15:43:15] <Crofton|work> and I do not like the idea of making console-image load all modules for all machines
  • [15:43:21] <koen> then you should stop complaining :)
  • [15:43:33] <Crofton|work> and you do not like making the beagleboard.conf load all modules
  • [15:43:38] <eFfeM> Crofton|work: if you have problems with the pegasus dongle, force that it is loaded using modutils
  • [15:43:46] <eFfeM> that worked for me on .27
  • [15:44:00] <Crofton|work> people build console-image and expect things like usb network dongles to work
  • [15:44:01] <koen> Crofton|work: I thought I builtin all usb ethernet dongles
  • [15:44:13] <koen> Crofton|work: seems I missed pegasus
  • [15:44:20] <Crofton|work> smart ass
  • [15:44:43] <Crofton|work> now, I complain about kernel bloat
  • [15:44:58] <Crofton|work> let me check kconfig
  • [15:45:07] <eFfeM> koen, earlier today installed .28 had some problems so redid the fat partition; apparently now bt works without setting pio
  • [15:45:56] <koen> great
  • [15:48:26] <eFfeM> koen saw some errors, but could be that i need to fsck my partition, didn't get to that (but i did get the boot prompt which i did not get before)
  • [15:48:37] * eFfeM is curious if pvrusb2 now also works
  • [15:50:25] <eFfeM> will check that tonight
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  • [15:51:05] <Crofton|work> koen, are you going to look at the kconfig also, I will if you aren't
  • [15:51:16] <koen> kconfig?
  • [15:51:27] <Crofton|work> building pegasus in
  • [15:51:55] <Crofton|work> I may as well do it since I can test it
  • [15:52:24] <RogerMonk> Crofton|work - lemme know when ur done - I have a pegasus adaptor I can test with too
  • [15:52:32] <eFfeM> me too
  • [15:53:13] <Crofton|work> loads of these usb dongles are modules
  • [15:53:45] <eFfeM> personally i feel tthat everything that is always there should be compiled in and the rest should be modules
  • [15:54:03] <eFfeM> that reduces kernel size and boot time
  • [15:54:29] <Crofton|work> the "problem" is that does not work for all machines
  • [15:54:37] <Crofton|work> and there are loads of machines
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  • [15:55:01] <Crofton|work> I am beginning to think I should try telling console-image to load all modules for the beagle
  • [15:56:04] <Crofton|work> MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS_beagleboard = " kernel-modules"
  • [15:56:13] <Crofton|work> will that work in console-image
  • [15:59:48] <DJWillis> Crofton|work: I am keen to workout the best/cleanest way to sort all that on the Pandora. For now they all sit in my task-pandora-core.bb ;-)
  • [16:00:14] <Crofton|work> DJWillis, the beagle is hard because you can attach so many things
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  • [16:00:22] <Crofton|work> I suspect pandora is similar
  • [16:01:07] * DJWillis also seemed to find some oddness with MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS not getting actioned but putting the apps directly into the task was fine.
  • [16:01:48] <koen> Crofton|work: why not make your own images that includes kernel-modules?
  • [16:01:54] <koen> Crofton|work: that's what demo-image does?
  • [16:02:05] <Crofton|work> koen, I have thought about that too
  • [16:02:17] <DJWillis> Crofton|work: yep, EHCI and mUSB. We have wireless on board but I am sure someone will want to bake in all manor of odd modules ;-)
  • [16:02:22] <koen> DJWillis: if you change MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS you need to bump PR on task-base
  • [16:02:51] <Crofton|work> DJWillis, since you answer the phone when people complain, you get to chose what hw you support :)
  • [16:02:59] <Crofton|work> add modules to machine accordingly
  • [16:03:05] <DJWillis> koen: ah, thanks, there you go, yet one more reason to shoot me ;-). That makes sense.
  • [16:03:24] <Crofton|work> for beagle, we want as much as possible to work, and are "less" concerned about overall perfection
  • [16:03:25] <DJWillis> Crofton|work: not me, I am just a hobby dev ;-)
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  • [16:05:44] <Crofton|work> koen, I am very close to making an image for gnuradio, but
  • [16:05:56] <Crofton|work> we still need console-image to be useful for beagle
  • [16:09:15] <koen> Crofton|work: console-image works with my usb ethernet adaptors
  • [16:10:33] <Crofton|work> which one do you have?
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  • [16:12:23] <Crofton|work> I assume you have an ASIX AX88xxx based adapter
  • [16:12:34] <Crofton|work> because that is the only one that is not a module
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  • [16:24:09] <koen> Crofton|work: right
  • [16:24:39] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [16:25:29] <Crofton|work> RRECOMMENDS_${PN}_append_beagleboard = "kernel-modules"
  • [16:25:42] <Crofton|work> how bad is this going to fail in console-image.bb?
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  • [16:27:20] <koen> it's going to get reverted the moment it hits the repo
  • [16:28:22] <Crofton|work> how the hades are we supposed to make console-image.bb work on the beagle for people with random usb dongles, without building all the usb dongle drivers into the kernel
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  • [16:28:52] <koen> we don't
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  • [16:29:08] <Crofton|work> rubbish
  • [16:29:14] * florian_kc cries
  • [16:29:25] <Crofton|work> at the end of the day some stuff needs to work
  • [16:29:25] <koen> just build in the damn module and get over it
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  • [16:40:58] <Crofton|work> koen, you aren't convincing me that all usb network dongles should be built in. I'm going to lunch bbl
  • [16:44:16] <koen> Crofton|work: the debian dudes are asking for that as well
  • [16:44:40] <koen> they seem inable to build their own kernel or someting like that
  • [16:45:37] <DJWillis> koen: the number of people who want to work on a distro but can't make there own kernel scares me ;-)
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  • [16:47:53] <koen> DJWillis: the number of people on the internet that don't know how to use google scare me :)
  • [16:48:01] <prpplague> DJWillis: i know the feeling
  • [16:48:16] <mru> the number of people who don't know scares me
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  • [16:48:27] <psykes> I just started working with the Beagleboard and admit that it did stump me for a while building a console-image and trying to work out why my USB ethernet adapter was not working even though the driver was being built as a kernel module. It wasn't immediately office to me that I had to add the kernel modules to the rootfs
  • [16:48:38] <psykes> just my 2 cents
  • [16:49:20] <psykes> maybe other newbs are having the same trouble
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  • [16:50:24] <DJWillis> psykes: I guess that maybe true. I have to confess I am looking into shipping a fairly rich module set on the Pandora NAND.
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  • [16:50:47] <DJWillis> that said, the Beagle does not come with Angstrom in NAND does it as of now?
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  • [16:52:31] <koen> DJWillis: no, but the validation utils are angstrom (arago) based nowadays
  • [16:52:54] <koen> DJWillis: as is the latest EVM PSP you can download from ti.com
  • [16:53:16] <DJWillis> koen: :D
  • [16:53:34] <koen> DJWillis: specialcomp (of acrylic case fame) is going to sell 4GB sd cards with angstrom preloaded
  • [16:54:37] <muriani> nice
  • [16:55:00] <DJWillis> koen: now that would be nice. Reminds me that need to get one of his cases as soon as I can order up a rev. C. Made my own case for my current Beagle.
  • [16:55:17] <eFfeM> actually maybe that is why the miniboard guys say they will deliver an sd card with the board (although ik know jkridner did not get one (or his cat ate it before he noticed it :-) ) )
  • [16:55:27] <koen> DJWillis: revC needs a different case, but they are working on that :)
  • [16:55:42] <koen> miniboard?
  • [16:56:02] * koen would like a case for overo + summit
  • [16:56:38] <eFfeM> koen http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.elinux.org/Mini_Board&usg=ALkJrhjNrU_OQQWW1NPSlxVoNd2vwlOdUA
  • [16:56:40] <DJWillis> koen: the idea of just telling everyone the Pandora only has one SD and popping a 4GB with the image on it really appeals ;-)
  • [16:57:36] <koen> eFfeM: ah, the realtimedsp one
  • [16:57:42] <eFfeM> yess
  • [16:58:27] <koen> DJWillis: speaking of pandora, are there any improved/new recipes for emulators yet?
  • [16:58:47] <eFfeM> not sure what jkridner's experinece is with the board
  • [16:58:57] <muriani> heh, I just checked out the new pandora prototype videos
  • [16:59:32] <jkridner> DJWillis, koen: Special Computing has already reworked their case for the Rev C1D.
  • [16:59:42] <eFfeM> nice
  • [16:59:54] <jkridner> I haven't had any time to play with my mini board.
  • [17:00:00] <DJWillis> koen: no idea, I am hastling people who seem to be porting stuff for there BB's but nothing is flowing to me :(.
  • [17:00:35] <eFfeM> reboot; brb
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  • [17:00:45] <DJWillis> jkridner: :-), very nice. Oh well, that's another thing to save up for :-)
  • [17:00:47] <jkridner> I first step is likely to create a u-boot patch for it. I'm not sure if their kit comes with the u-boot code. I suspect the only difference will be on the port for the EHCI.
  • [17:01:08] * jkridner would rather have one of those Pandora cases right now.
  • [17:01:23] * jkridner would want a board in it too.
  • [17:02:35] <koen> jkridner: I know, one of such cases is on its way to me :)
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  • [17:02:47] <koen> (specialcom revC, not pandora)
  • [17:03:02] <DJWillis> jkridner: i'll take a case for my board, and a keymat (trying to type with a screwdriver is not fun ;-))
  • [17:03:26] <koen> DJWillis: metallic paint on your fingertips :)
  • [17:03:45] <DJWillis> koen: nahh, wore off to quickly ;-)
  • [17:03:53] <DJWillis> And shorted other stuff ;-)
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  • [17:06:06] * eFfeM thinks jkridner could organize a casing constest :-)
  • [17:06:37] <jkridner> well, we should probably be revving up some interest in the February give-away.
  • [17:06:51] <jkridner> I'm guessing that it will likely slip to the end of the month.
  • [17:07:17] <jkridner> I haven't seen any activity on new entries, but I think entering a case seems like a suitable thing to do.
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  • [17:08:40] <eFfeM> i'm working on my project, but until now mostly foundation stuff
  • [17:08:52] * eFfeM should probably update his page anyway
  • [17:09:36] <dirk2> jkridner: I don't think anybody is aware that entering new contest entries is possible (wanted?) if (a) this isn't mentioned anywhere or (b) the new contest isn't 'opened' offiicially again?
  • [17:09:41] <eFfeM> currently fighting with coherence, this one has the interesting "feature" to try to make 100 connections in 15 ms (which my router firewall rejects)
  • [17:10:05] <jkridner> dirk2: I believe we should officially open it.
  • [17:10:16] <dirk2> jkridner: yes :)
  • [17:10:29] <phubar> anyone know when rev C boards will be out? I thought I remembered seeing something about it being in February, but can't recall where I found that info..
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  • [17:10:43] <torpor_> hiya beagle'rs.
  • [17:10:43] <jkridner> it is just lower priority right now than prepping rev c validation code.
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  • [17:11:06] <dirk2> phubar: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Revision_C2
  • [17:11:12] <jkridner> I'm looking into rebasing the rev c u-boot to see if I can have clean patches ready.
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  • [17:11:46] <koen> jkridner: is the uboot logo format documented somewhere?
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  • [17:11:59] <jkridner> so that I can submit them as soon as OMAP3 goes to the u-boot mainline. I'd really like it if khasim's code could be based off mainline, rather than sakoman's tree.
  • [17:12:19] <dirk2> jkridner: I have the 'sync omap3-dev differences with mainline' ready. Will wait until Wolfgang did pull.
  • [17:12:46] <koen> the whole "develop against mainline" message gets stabbed in the eyes by uboot devs it seems
  • [17:13:06] <phubar> dirk2: thanks
  • [17:13:09] <jkridner> koen: the macro pretty much defines it. http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=blob;f=board/omap3/beagle/logo.h;h=0b8a064008fee013c31132b1477271bdb39d7382;hb=e41ee7f8ae7adf618a8b7eef2f9389ebbd47ccfd
  • [17:13:46] <jkridner> dirk2: did you put it into one patch?
  • [17:14:22] <jkridner> dirk2: there are some errors we fixed in the mainline push that we want to be sure not to revert.
  • [17:14:50] <dirk2> jkridner: no, 5: overo pin mux & gpio clean up, beagle revision detection, omap3 version detection, pandora pin mux, mmc clean up
  • [17:15:32] <jkridner> k.
  • [17:15:35] <dirk2> jkridner: beagle mainline push: yes, noticed this. Had to remove all beagle patches ;)
  • [17:15:45] <jkridner> mmc clean-up already applies cleanly, I believe.
  • [17:16:07] <jkridner> k.
  • [17:16:17] <jkridner> I noted some differences...
  • [17:16:23] <koen> jkridner: save-as "c-source header (.h)" in gimp?
  • [17:17:21] <jkridner> dirk2: there were some #### at the end of the file in sakoman's original overo support patch and in the EVM. those seem to be removed. is this something to ignore?
  • [17:18:07] <jkridner> koen: that's what the file seems to imply, but I have never tried to generate one on my own.
  • [17:18:35] <jkridner> I recommend using a compression library if you have time, but we can add that later.
  • [17:18:38] <dirk2> jkridner: Hmm, not sure what you mean? I remember that we removed the trailing empty lines in all patches...
  • [17:19:07] <jkridner> dirk2: it wasn't trailing spaces, it was just a line of #### at the end of the file. I'll get some links to show you.
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  • [17:20:51] <jkridner> http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=blob;f=board/omap3/overo/Makefile;h=95a9edd41c6142a79e26ae29d1525b3f536c219f;hb=ef2642116f9a923c847d82ef1d1b9e0bd685f6eb has #### at the end, but http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-arm.git;a=blob;f=board/omap3/overo/Makefile;h=ed5f45152e9281abc08b2a6af3e3651d5f04b3ae;hb=9d0fc8110e7e755239329c26f300d5fc9946d3ec does not
  • [17:21:16] <jkridner> in fact, http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-arm.git;a=blob;f=board/omap3/overo/Makefile;h=ed5f45152e9281abc08b2a6af3e3651d5f04b3ae;hb=9d0fc8110e7e755239329c26f300d5fc9946d3ec has a blank line at the end!
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  • [17:21:51] <jkridner> I used git-rebase to find the differences.
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  • [17:24:03] <sakoman__> jkridner, dirk2: I'm assuming that from this point forward all u-boot changes should happen through the normal u-boot process
  • [17:24:35] <sakoman__> i.e. no more patches to beagleboard mailing list, no patch applications to my git
  • [17:24:41] <dirk2> jkridner: ah, I see. Hmm, seems this was lost somewhere while removing trailing lines. Maybe we can add it later again.
  • [17:24:42] <sakoman__> correct?
  • [17:25:15] <dirk2> sakoman__: From process point of view: Yes
  • [17:26:00] <dirk2> sakoman__: but I fear that mainline might be just to slow, and that we might like to have a git with all our coming changes again
  • [17:26:25] <sakoman__> that will be fine - I have to do that anyway for staging my own stuff
  • [17:26:37] <sakoman__> priot to submission upstream
  • [17:26:40] <dirk2> sakoman__: If mainline merge window closes again, we might have to wait again 2 month or more for trivial patch
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  • [17:27:52] <dirk2> sakoman__: I really like what we did: Add it to your git and then 'fight' with mainline
  • [17:28:01] <sakoman__> OK, so as soon as omap3 stuff hits mainline I'll create a new staging branch for us to work in
  • [17:28:22] <dirk2> sakoman__: Yes, sounds fine :)
  • [17:28:24] <jkridner> sakoman__: it would be nice if you accepted patches sent to the u-boot mailing list for OMAP3 boards (copied on the beagle mailing list) for the case where j24 doesn't pick them up, but we'll be looking for stuff in denx.de.
  • [17:28:38] <jkridner> dirk2, sakoman__: what you are saying sounds fine.
  • [17:29:15] <jkridner> btw, which way does GPIO_168 go?
  • [17:29:31] <jkridner> I've lost track.
  • [17:30:12] <dirk2> jkridner, sakoman__: Most probably we have to do the sync about patches going only to u-boot ml or only to beagle list manually ;) will help with this
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  • [18:03:12] <eFfeM> ah, reboot works on 2.6.28, thanks guys
  • [18:03:37] <shri> does poweroff work?
  • [18:04:15] <eFfeM> will try later, board is now down
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  • [18:08:39] <eFfeM> hm, i seem to have an issue on .28 though with ext3. see http://pastebin.com/d69e08ced
  • [18:09:19] <eFfeM> this is on a card that has been fsck-ed on another system just before the boot!
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  • [18:09:42] <shri> i have seen similar issues
  • [18:10:09] <eFfeM> hmm
  • [18:10:39] <eFfeM> koen, Crofton|work, anyone else, have you seen this? any idea ?
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  • [18:19:51] <eFfeM> shri, poweroff works
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  • [18:24:17] <Crofton|work> eFfeM, I haven't seen that
  • [18:26:37] <eFfeM> hm, odd, of course i build my own image
  • [18:26:47] <eFfeM> just pulled again an rebuild
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  • [18:28:21] <ds2> is mainline U-boot == U-boot v2 only?
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  • [18:33:24] <eFfeM> koen, Crofton|work, it is not in my uImage, the version of koen from sunday also has this (from an amethyst generated .img)
  • [18:34:04] <Crofton|work> what is not?
  • [18:35:07] <eFfeM> the problem with ext3 (see pastebin above)
  • [18:35:53] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [18:36:02] <eFfeM> card is fsck -rf -ed on my host system; did a recheck and a sync before removing it (it was ofc not mounted)
  • [18:36:10] <Crofton|work> I'll be booting something soon
  • [18:36:13] <eFfeM> when I boot from it I get the pastebin log
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  • [18:37:28] <eFfeM> hub or no hub connected does not make a difference
  • [18:40:23] <dirk2> ds2: mainline U-Boot == U-Boot v1. U-Boot v2 == http://www.pengutronix.de/software/u-boot/v2/index_en.html
  • [18:40:27] <jkridner> ping ds2
  • [18:40:56] <Crofton|work> ok, time for gnuradio-image
  • [18:41:08] <dirk2> ds2: U-Boot v2 git http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-v2.git;a=summary
  • [18:41:27] <koen> Crofton|work: did you see the task-base-usbhost commit I made during lunch?
  • [18:41:38] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [18:41:49] <Crofton|work> I was just thinking the usb modules could go in something like that
  • [18:41:54] <ds2> jkrinder: pong
  • [18:41:57] <Crofton|work> I will look at it
  • [18:42:05] <ds2> dirk2: gotcha
  • [18:42:18] <Crofton|work> I need a really simple way for a few people to try gnuradio on beagle anyway
  • [18:42:34] <Crofton|work> I suspect I'll be working with people who are not good at this stuff :)
  • [18:43:12] <ds2> Crofton|work: what is the min hw needed to try it (and see something interesting)?
  • [18:43:23] <Crofton|work> I also need to send the inner product test to the beagle list as an example of how bad gcc blows at fp on beagle
  • [18:43:29] <Crofton|work> beagle
  • [18:43:43] <Crofton|work> I need to add a fm-demod-from-file app though
  • [18:43:50] <Crofton|work> not there yet
  • [18:44:08] <ds2> that isn't interesting
  • [18:45:48] <Crofton|work> ds2, you are hard to please
  • [18:46:23] * eFfeM thinks gnu radio is cool, but for the price of an usrp2 i can also buy a very nice radio
  • [18:46:45] <Crofton|work> eFfeM, but, we like to build our own radios
  • [18:47:00] <ds2> Crofton|work: what modes can it support right now?
  • [18:47:17] <Crofton|work> ds2, anything you can code for :)
  • [18:47:21] <eFfeM> lol, i know, actually that got me into this field 33 yrs ago
  • [18:47:35] * eFfeM studled electrotechnical engineering
  • [18:47:38] <ds2> Crofton|work: let me rephase that... what modes is there code for at the moment? FM? AM? SSB? TV?
  • [18:47:48] <Crofton|work> gnuradio is more like a construction kit
  • [18:48:04] <Crofton|work> not sure, most people are fiddling with data
  • [18:48:17] <koen> Crofton|work: radios are so last century, people have ipods nowadays
  • [18:48:20] <Crofton|work> gmsk, ofdm, qpsk etc
  • [18:49:20] <eFfeM> koen, so are valve amplifiers, but they are still made
  • [18:49:38] <Crofton|work> my friend plays mp3's through his tube amp
  • [18:49:42] <Crofton|work> er valve amp
  • [18:49:45] * eFfeM discovers http://www.tubeopedia.com/
  • [18:50:09] <eFfeM> it might well be that i still have an AZ1 somewhere upstairs
  • [18:50:10] <ds2> hmmm that's not much in the way of stuff I can pluck off the air to play with it
  • [18:50:13] <koen> mp3 and tube amp
  • [18:50:16] <koen> hmmm
  • [18:50:41] <ds2> Crofton|work: what does it expect as data? just linear 8 bit samples of the IF?
  • [18:50:48] <Crofton|work> when his kids started walking, he had to order the cover for it
  • [18:50:58] <eFfeM> lol
  • [18:51:05] <Crofton|work> the usrp normally provides 12 bit samples I/Q
  • [18:51:17] <ds2> surely, his kids will learn after touching it once ;)
  • [18:51:32] <Crofton|work> phase 1 is get an example of how to use gnuradio with NEON on OMAP3 together
  • [18:51:34] <eFfeM> koen do you have any idea on my boot problem with .28 ? http://pastebin.com/d69e08ced ; happens also with your uimage
  • [18:51:48] <ds2> 12 bit I/Q samples... Hmmm
  • [18:51:49] <Crofton|work> he didn;t want to replace tubes, skin grows back
  • [18:52:02] <Crofton|work> apparently, no one has ordered the cover before him
  • [18:52:04] <ds2> oh right, tubes are scarce
  • [18:52:09] <Crofton|work> ds2, gnuradio.org
  • [18:52:59] <ds2> Crofton|work: trying to talk a friend into doing it...he's a RF guy with access to boards to do the downconvert and at the moment, he's trying to learn the digital demod stuff so this is ideal
  • [18:55:24] <Crofton|work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCTn4FljUQ&eurl=http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=37480
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  • [18:56:34] <koen> eFfeM: haven't seen that one yet
  • [18:57:45] <koen> "owns home computer"
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  • [19:00:43] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [19:00:50] <Crofton|work> I wonder if sakoman subscribed?
  • [19:02:25] * sakoman__ wasn't even alive in 1981 ;-)
  • [19:02:57] <sakoman__> just kidding. no, I didn't subscribe
  • [19:03:03] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:03:22] <Crofton|work> I was in college, we had punch cards
  • [19:03:48] * koen wasn't there yet in 1981
  • [19:04:15] <sakoman__> I was working at HP's calculator division in Corvallis, OR
  • [19:04:41] <Crofton|work> I was using HP calculators
  • [19:05:05] <Crofton|work> I picked up an HP-11 at a yard sale for $10 a few years back
  • [19:05:11] * sakoman__ was grateful for Crofton's financial support!
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  • [19:05:48] <Crofton|work> my original HP-11 from college was acting funny, although I've heard there is place that fixes old HP's now
  • [19:07:17] <gletelli_> vlad: I've just seen your question about some yuv -> rgb conversion code for ARM NEON abd SSE
  • [19:07:19] <gletelli_> Have you looked at Openmax DL libraries?
  • [19:07:21] <gletelli_> see http://www.khronos.org/openmax/
  • [19:07:22] <gletelli_> and http://www.khronos.org/files/openmax_dl_spec_1_0_2.pdf
  • [19:07:24] <gletelli_> Functions like YCbCrxxxToBGRxxx...
  • [19:07:26] <gletelli_> There is a library for ARM NEON / Cortex-A8 (and another release soon)
  • [19:07:28] <gletelli_> See http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/openmax/
  • [19:07:29] <gletelli_> with reference C code and optimisation for Neon
  • [19:07:31] <gletelli_> There should be similar lib for SSE (Intel is part of Khonos if I'm correct)
  • [19:07:52] <Crofton|work> I'm curious if those will work on Angstrom?
  • [19:08:32] <kulve> gletelli_: "To signup please fill in the form below."
  • [19:08:38] <koen> Crofton|work: last I looked those binaries had an even worse license than the SGX ones
  • [19:08:38] <kulve> that might scare people of easily..
  • [19:08:52] <Crofton|work> crpa
  • [19:08:56] <Crofton|work> crap that is
  • [19:09:31] <koen> "here's this magic binary you can't share, and a few c snippets on how to interface with it"
  • [19:10:12] <kulve> koen: I think there's sources for everything?
  • [19:10:27] <kulve> no magic binaries
  • [19:11:06] <gletelli_> yep
  • [19:11:42] <Crofton|work> I have a feeling someone will look at them
  • [19:11:45] <koen> kulve: the last time I tried their librarie the resulting weren't nice
  • [19:12:01] <koen> kulve: "speed" was chosen over "correctness" and "quality"
  • [19:13:55] <kulve> interesting. I'm getting a file with pdf extension which still is .tar.gz for real..
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  • [19:14:24] <koen> and last I heard you need armcc to compile the stuff
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  • [19:15:51] <kulve> yeah, I think it wasnt' anything gcc understand
  • [19:16:02] <Crofton|work> urg, that's an issue
  • [19:16:06] * koen checks
  • [19:16:09] <koen> yes
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  • [19:16:13] <koen> you need armcc
  • [19:16:28] <koen> and makefile weren't 1337 enough, so it has perl scripts
  • [19:16:52] <koen> and you can't distribute sources or binaries it seems
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  • [19:17:51] <kulve> software needed: "ARM RealView Development Suite version 3.1 or later"
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  • [19:20:58] <n6pfk> I have android booted on my board but no mouse. Any thoughts?
  • [19:21:27] <koen> gcohler: you really want the DSS2 patches, which sakomans build doesn't have
  • [19:21:44] <koen> n6pfk: yes, use angstrom instead of android :)
  • [19:22:08] <n6pfk> Been ther done that.
  • [19:22:11] * Crofton|work wonders if koen has use Angstrom as a macro ....
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  • [19:23:41] <n6pfk> Well at least u didn't tell me to use XP. :-)
  • [19:25:01] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:25:06] <Crofton|work> that would upset us
  • [19:25:17] <n6pfk> Me too!
  • [19:26:13] <shri> how to test dvfs? is checking bogomips sufficient?
  • [19:26:41] <Crofton|work> usbhost update works
  • [19:27:06] <Crofton|work> do we add all usb dongles, are wait to see what actually is "common"
  • [19:27:22] <Crofton|work> I vote for "conduct informal market survey"
  • [19:28:44] <n6pfk> The serial console in android is working.
  • [19:29:32] <eFfeM> koen was afk will try to start with a clean rfs
  • [19:29:37] <koen> Crofton|work: everything and the kitchensink was already in that recipe
  • [19:29:43] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:29:51] <Crofton|work> except the one I had?
  • [19:29:52] <koen> eFfeM: could be a bug in the sd card or sd driver
  • [19:29:59] <koen> Crofton|work: no usb-eth at all
  • [19:30:08] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [19:30:11] <koen> Crofton|work: but then again, OE devs didn't have those :)
  • [19:30:16] <eFfeM> koen, guess so, but then why don't you have it
  • [19:30:17] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:30:23] <koen> eFfeM: luck
  • [19:30:26] <Crofton|work> well, that is how we debug this stuff
  • [19:31:07] <eFfeM> koen, do you think there can be a u-boot dependency (personally i would not expect it)
  • [19:31:14] <eFfeM> then again never say never
  • [19:31:29] <koen> I'm not aware of mmc changes in uboot
  • [19:31:36] * eFfeM was a little bit stupid, updated u-boot and uimage at the same time
  • [19:34:53] <n6pfk> Does Angstrom have a package manager and/or a repository. How do you expand it?
  • [19:35:12] <eFfeM> n6pfk: opkg
  • [19:35:53] <n6pfk> Opkg, thanks.
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  • [19:37:10] <florian> re
  • [19:37:50] <Crofton|work> only 42 patches to go!
  • [19:38:06] <vlad> gletelli_: doh! I totally forgot about OpenMAX
  • [19:38:12] <vlad> I'll take a look today
  • [19:38:46] <kulve> vlad: note that those are OpenMAX DL
  • [19:39:25] <vlad> nod
  • [19:40:16] <n6pfk> I have used CodeSorcery and Scratchbox tool chains to build source. What other tool chains are available.
  • [19:40:53] <kulve> the upstream gcc. And ARM provides something. And TI provides something (I think)
  • [19:42:14] <eFfeM> n6pfk: openembedded
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  • [19:42:35] <kulve> OE uses toolchains provided by others (as do Scratcbhox)
  • [19:42:47] <eFfeM> ah ok
  • [19:42:52] <n6pfk> I am somewhat confused by the various magical file formats required by x-loader and u-boot. Is there a good description of the file formats online?
  • [19:42:55] * koen wonders how long it will take to upload a 200MB .ipk
  • [19:43:07] <eFfeM> well i uuse whatever i get from the oe git
  • [19:43:20] <eFfeM> koen, depends on the bandwidth :-)
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  • [19:44:30] <Crofton|work> kulve, or it can create its own toolchains
  • [19:45:09] <koen> NOTE: package bigbuckbunny-480p-1.0-r0: task do_fetch: started
  • [19:45:25] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [19:45:35] <kulve> Crofton|work: yeah, but it downloads them from somewhere
  • [19:45:49] <Crofton|work> based on stock gcc :)
  • [19:46:06] <Crofton|work> you could setup OE to use the armcc toolchain
  • [19:46:57] <kulve> I couldn't, I use SB ;)
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  • [19:48:52] <koen> wait
  • [19:49:00] <koen> I misread the arm license
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  • [19:49:23] <koen> ARM hereby grants to YOU (either an individual or single entity), under ARM's copyright in the Software, a perpetual, non-exclusive, non-transferable, royalty free, worldwide licence to ; (i) use, copy, modify, the Software for the purposes of developing or having developed software applications and; (ii) distribute and sublicense the right to use, copy and modify the software applications to third parties."
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  • [19:49:35] <koen> "distribute and sublicense
  • [19:49:36] <koen> "
  • [19:50:40] * koen is too use to a "not" in such clauses
  • [19:50:47] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:51:09] <Crofton|work> hmm, that seems usable
  • [19:51:48] <eFfeM> different compilers are a good way to iron out bugs
  • [19:51:55] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:52:04] <eFfeM> not sure how this one compares against gcc
  • [19:53:02] <Crofton|work> I would really like a gcc usable openmax, although being able to extract useful NEON bits and incorporating into GPL and/or BSD code would be helpful
  • [19:53:48] <koen> Crofton|work: try to put it in fftw or gnuradio as a proof of concept
  • [19:53:54] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:54:05] <Crofton|work> or convince some othe people to look at it :)
  • [19:54:30] <Crofton|work> I need to get it so mortals can get it going on beagle and do some "pimping"
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  • [20:00:58] <Crofton|work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpoyXyfi2U
  • [20:01:40] <Crofton|work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zymOmduNWyI
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  • [20:09:39] <eFfeM> koen, just tired a freshly generated image: no success. if you are interested to replay with my generated image: see the frans5 image; my card is a 4GB kingston SDHC clard
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  • [20:13:14] <Crofton|work> eFfeM, can you try a different card?
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  • [20:13:55] <eFfeM> guess i have one somewhere not sure exactly where it is and what is on it
  • [20:14:00] <eFfeM> will check later
  • [20:14:32] <tharvey> koen, I read on elinux that the beagleboard oe conf was using codesourcery gcc, but looking at the build I did of oe (git perhaps a week or so ago) it pulls gcc from ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.3.1 - its just standard gcc thats being used right or am I missing something?
  • [20:14:56] <eFfeM> now tried with the .27 kernel that was in the image and that one boots nicely; it is now doing the initial install
  • [20:14:57] <eFfeM> same card
  • [20:15:19] <Crofton|work> weird, my stuff is booting that I built today
  • [20:15:21] <tharvey> oh wait... its gnu gcc-4.3.1 being used to build codesourcery to create the cross toolchain right?
  • [20:16:44] <eFfeM> Crofton|work: are you using an SD or SDHC card ?
  • [20:17:29] <Crofton|work> 2G SD
  • [20:17:37] <eFfeM> i'm using sdhc
  • [20:17:40] <Crofton|work> sandisk
  • [20:18:49] <koen> tharvey: no, it's using gcc 4.3.1, not the codesourcery toolchains
  • [20:19:04] <koen> tharvey: CSL toolchains are broken
  • [20:19:24] <tharvey> CSL = codesourcery?
  • [20:19:26] <koen> tharvey: 2007q3 is ok-ish, but made half the binaries segfault when I tried it
  • [20:19:27] <koen> yes
  • [20:20:20] <koen> tharvey: see http://hardwarebug.org/ for CSL 2008qX suckage
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  • [20:22:11] <tharvey> ya... I was following that - so I guess the info at elinux is out of date? (http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Compiler) specifically the note about if you using OE it will build 2007q3 from source while installing
  • [20:22:52] <tharvey> in fact, if I look at my log for building console-image I see that 2007q3 is fetched and built - I'm still confused (and I'm pretty igorant about how OE handles the toolchain)
  • [20:23:05] <Crofton|work> is q3 used to build kernel?
  • [20:23:33] <tharvey> looking at depends.dot right now to see if I can be enlightened
  • [20:23:46] <koen> it is used to build the linux kernel
  • [20:23:58] <koen> kernel <2.6.27 has a bug that gets triggered by non-gcc
  • [20:24:56] <eFfeM> tharvey: if you want to build things with oe this might be a good start: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit
  • [20:25:13] <eFfeM> koen are you running .28 on an SD or an SDHC card
  • [20:25:49] <tharvey> eFfeM, thx - I am already building for beagleboard using oe git... I understand that, I'm just saying I'm not real up on how OE's toolchain deps go
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  • [20:26:21] <eFfeM> i thought it just used gcc directly, but not sure about that, i never really bothered
  • [20:26:55] <koen> eFfeM: .28, 4GB sandisk sdhc, ext3
  • [20:27:15] <eFfeM> hmm, so that rules out that it is something sdhc specific
  • [20:27:46] <eFfeM> if you have an empty card handy could you try the frans5 image from amethyst
  • [20:28:09] <Batko_Marto> would more than 4GB SD work on the beagle?
  • [20:28:21] <tharvey> koen, ah... ok your saying that current oe uses csl-arm-2007q3 to build kernel (which is gcc-cross-kernel-4.2.1) - but this wasn't the case <2.6.27? why is csl used for kernel if its so buggy?
  • [20:28:22] <eFfeM> meanwhile i'll try to find an empty 2g card in this mess (or one which can be made empty)
  • [20:28:37] <eFfeM> Batko_Marto: yes, it is sdhc
  • [20:30:39] <Batko_Marto> ok thanks
  • [20:31:20] * eFfeM is backing up a 2GB patriot sd card
  • [20:31:35] <eFfeM> anyone every played with sunspot ?
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  • [20:39:13] <Crofton> sakoman, ping
  • [20:39:24] <sakoman__> Crofton: pong
  • [20:39:50] <Crofton> are you pulling oe.dev into the git repo that gumstix users are using?
  • [20:40:09] <sakoman__> yes, 2 - 3 times a week
  • [20:40:15] <Crofton> ok
  • [20:40:37] <sakoman__> I only merge when test builds are successful
  • [20:40:39] <Crofton> I made some gnuradio fixes, so they will flow over there eventually :)
  • [20:40:52] <sakoman__> Yes, likely this afternoon sometime
  • [20:40:59] <Crofton> awesome :)
  • [20:42:17] <eFfeM> hm, not sure what happened the dd image i just copied to this 2g card does not have the 2nd partition formatted
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  • [20:45:13] <sakoman__> Crofton: actually the org.openembedded.dev branch is never more than a few hours behind upstream oe.dev
  • [20:45:47] <sakoman__> it is the overo branch that gets merged 2-3 times a week at (relatively) stable points
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  • [20:49:48] <denix> tharvey: csl used to build kernel is angstrom specific, afaik, not oe in general...
  • [20:50:15] <denix> tharvey: btw, CSL is CodeSourcery Lite - the free version of their toolchain
  • [20:50:20] <denix> jkridner: ping
  • [20:52:25] <koen> Crofton: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/ has had a 'gnuradio' checkbox since the beginning :)
  • [20:52:52] <Crofton|work> you are building the older version minus NEON
  • [20:53:09] <Crofton|work> the newer version needs boost-1.36
  • [20:54:02] <Crofton|work> I'm trying to get some people interested in testing and adding real NEON so we can build non-trivial radios
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  • [21:05:01] <eFfeM> hm, 2gb card also has an issue (init not found), starting to suspect the sdhc adapter, now using the pc internal sd card reader to write the 2gb card
  • [21:05:09] <eFfeM> (typically i grab the external one)
  • [21:05:17] <eFfeM> as the internal one is sd only
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  • [21:14:06] <eFfeM> hm, 2g card seems ok, will try to rewrite the 4g card
  • [21:15:17] <ge1029> is there a IR receiver support for beagle board. any ideas on how i can add a IR receiver to be used by a remote
  • [21:15:34] <eFfeM> ge1029: use an usb ir receiver
  • [21:15:50] <eFfeM> with lirc, worked nicely for me
  • [21:16:29] <ge1029> with current configuration, any negative , slow effects using USB for ethernet/IR/ other connectivity
  • [21:16:55] <eFfeM> no idea, i only used it briefly until now
  • [21:17:03] <eFfeM> ir that is
  • [21:17:27] <eFfeM> its usb2 so speedwise i would not expect too much problems unless you heavily load it
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  • [21:18:28] <jkridner> denix: pong
  • [21:18:48] <ge1029> am planning to use usb for ethernet and IR. so performance should'nt be impacted, i suppose
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  • [21:23:36] <eFfeM> koen, Crofton; generated image on sd card works when written using internal card reader/writer
  • [21:24:03] <eFfeM> will retry the 4g one (writing it now; takes some time)
  • [21:25:21] <Crofton|work> koen, any ideas about the guy with the bad zlib checksum, may paranoid side wonders if his "isp" is substituting files on him .....
  • [21:26:31] <eFfeM> was it repeatable?
  • [21:26:38] <Crofton|work> I'm not sure
  • [21:26:52] <eFfeM> if not it could just be some glitch somewhere
  • [21:26:54] <Crofton|work> I think his English might be a bit rough
  • [21:27:36] <eFfeM> i'd suggest retry first; if that gives the same bad sum, make him a copy under a different name and encrypt it
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  • [21:28:18] <eFfeM> i've once seen that some sw from a router would change ip addresses even in a msg body (nat in body ??? )
  • [21:28:32] <Xenion> http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/ <- woaw taht's awesome !
  • [21:28:55] <Xenion> koen, great tool, what you used for that ? java, dhtml, cgi ?
  • [21:29:07] <Crofton|work> javascript I think
  • [21:29:19] <Crofton|work> the source is somewhere :)
  • [21:29:19] <tharvey> denix, looking at distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf I see ANGSTROM_GCC_VERSION_armv7a = "4.2.1+csl-arm-2007q3-53" is commented out - still trying to understand where its coming from
  • [21:29:39] <Crofton|work> some thing like GCC_FOR_KERNEL
  • [21:30:01] <denix> KERNEL_CCSUFFIX_armv7a
  • [21:30:12] <Xenion> <- is just curioes who "koen" is or what he does for a living ... :-)
  • [21:31:03] <tharvey> ah... I see the kernel suffix... didn't realize that it somehow triggers the compiler - thought it was just a label
  • [21:31:23] <Crofton|work> He claims to attend U Twente
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  • [21:32:32] <eFfeM> Koen Kooi???s Education Universiteit Twente 2001 ??? 2009 (expected)
  • [21:32:33] <tharvey> oic - kernel.bbclass: KERNEL_CC = "${CCACHE}${HOST_PREFIX}gcc${KERNEL_CCSUFFIX} ${HOST_CC_KERNEL_ARCH}"
  • [21:32:48] <eFfeM> koen are you going to make that ?
  • [21:32:49] * denix thinks koen is a mysterious creature, pretending to be a student...
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  • [21:33:32] <denix> but in reality he's not a human, but a cloud of energy...
  • [21:33:32] <eFfeM> lol
  • [21:33:41] <eFfeM> well 4gb card gives same errors as before
  • [21:33:43] <jkridner> Crofton|work: I believe the source is in OE itself.
  • [21:33:59] <Crofton|work> for?
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  • [21:34:22] <Crofton|work> csl used to build kernel?
  • [21:34:47] * jkridner smiles at http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=6a6d6bab519aefb44e3d49d305134057adf7539e
  • [21:35:13] <Crofton|work> those will be a bitch to download :)
  • [21:35:17] * jkridner cannot wait to 'opkg install bigbuckbunny' :)
  • [21:35:31] <tharvey> Crofton|work, yes csl-arm-2007q3 is used to build linux-omap kernel
  • [21:35:35] <jkridner> er, 'opkg install bigbuckbunny-720p' :)
  • [21:35:53] <eFfeM> building it will also take some time
  • [21:36:27] <tharvey> see angstrom-2008.1.conf for description of what they call a 'Horrible workaround for armv7a'
  • [21:36:36] <eFfeM> me is reading http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2096126
  • [21:36:39] <eFfeM> hmmm
  • [21:37:24] <denix> hmm, would be fun to re-render those avi's during oe_make... :)
  • [21:37:24] <tharvey> but according to koen the gcc kernel bug no longer exists in 2.6.27+ so I would imagine you don't need the csl to build the current linux-omap kernel
  • [21:37:46] <tharvey> not sure how to make KERNEL_CCSUFFIX_armv7a dependent on <2.6.27 myself
  • [21:45:44] <jkridner> crofton|work, Xenion: looks like narcissus is written in PHP: http://dominion.thruhere.net/git/?p=narcissus.git;a=summary
  • [21:46:02] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [21:46:16] <jkridner> with some JS in the UI.
  • [21:46:26] <Crofton|work> I wish he had named it something I could spell reliably :)
  • [21:46:33] <Xenion> thxs jkridner
  • [21:46:35] <Xenion> :-)
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  • [21:49:22] <denix> am I the only one who likes to build my fs from sources? narcissus only packages fs from feeds, not rebuilds them...
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  • [21:53:55] <chizzel> can anyone recommend a 2 to 5inch screen for beagleboard, with little soldering needed
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  • [21:55:47] <eFfeM> hm same card, kernel .27 no problem
  • [21:56:18] * eFfeM is totally confused
  • [21:58:09] <Crofton|work> I hate those sorts of problems
  • [21:58:15] <Xenion> arch/arm/plat-omap/common.c: In function 'omap_32k_read': <- hum
  • [22:01:04] <eFfeM> so do i
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  • [22:06:06] <brijesh> just tried a fs build with udhcpc (v1.13.2) started
  • [22:06:06] <brijesh> run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1
  • [22:06:06] <brijesh> nfs: server 156.117.95.201 not responding, still trying
  • [22:06:06] <brijesh> nfs: server 156.117.95.201 not responding, still trying
  • [22:06:29] <brijesh> just tried fs build with http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
  • [22:06:39] <brijesh> the fs is mounted as NFS rootfs
  • [22:06:44] <eFfeM> Crofton|work did you see the link i posted just before
  • [22:07:19] <Crofton|work> the om one
  • [22:07:40] <eFfeM> yes
  • [22:08:15] <Crofton|work> next time I have a chance I think I'll grab an sdhc card to test
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  • [22:08:41] <eFfeM> just for fun; google for 2.6.28 sdhc
  • [22:09:14] <eFfeM> first 5 are all "does not work" although some are for .27
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  • [22:11:22] <eFfeM> bedtime, cya
  • [22:11:36] <Crofton|work> gn
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  • [22:18:20] <chizzel> is there any easy way of connecting beagle board to a small lcd/oled display
  • [22:22:13] <maelcum> well, you obviously need *some* kind of interface hardware.
  • [22:22:38] <chizzel> do we need to take signal before dvi framer?
  • [22:22:53] <chizzel> or can we convert dvi to spi/paralell
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  • [22:29:26] <Xenion> can someone help me with this one ?
  • [22:29:29] <Xenion> CC arch/arm/plat-omap/common.o
  • [22:29:29] <Xenion> arch/arm/plat-omap/common.c: In function 'omap_32k_read':
  • [22:29:29] <Xenion> arch/arm/plat-omap/common.c:210: error: 'OMAP2_32KSYNCT_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function)
  • [22:29:37] <Xenion> even using defconfig is still got these
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  • [22:36:50] <koen> koen@dominion:/OE/angstrom-dev/deploy/glibc$ du ipk/all/bigbuckbunny-??0p_* -hs
  • [22:36:50] <koen> 209M ipk/all/bigbuckbunny-480p_1.0-r0.1_all.ipk
  • [22:36:50] <koen> 314M ipk/all/bigbuckbunny-720p_1.0-r0.1_all.ipk
  • [22:36:52] <Xenion> fixed it the ugly way
  • [22:36:59] <Xenion> TIMER_32K_SYNCHRONIZED 0x48004010 just did that
  • [22:37:12] <Xenion> refering to the kernel docs this seems to be a normal value for the bb
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  • [22:38:58] <bkero> Any clue if http://git.moblin.org/cgi-bin/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=projects/psb-kmd.git;a=summary could work for a beagle?
  • [22:39:22] <bkero> It seems intel has been releasing code to work with the powervr graphics subsystem.
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  • [22:40:16] <koen> bkero: with *a* SGX, not the same sgx as in the omap3
  • [22:40:26] <bkero> :(
  • [22:41:03] <bkero> The SGX is a big gotcha in using a vanilla kernel :(
  • [22:41:19] <koen> bkero: and it remains to be seem how many blobs it needs to do something usefull
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  • [22:41:45] <koen> bkero: the current drivers for teh sgx are GPLv2, but to do something usefull you need the closed libGL from imgtec
  • [22:42:24] <bkero> Looks like basic 3d is already implemented
  • [22:42:30] <bkero> http://git.moblin.org/cgi-bin/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=projects/psb-kmd.git;a=blob;f=psb_drm.h;h=c39d24a212f40041146ea1bd018adac7011d11b5;hb=HEAD
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  • [22:47:34] <koen> jkridner: note that 'opkg install bigbuckbunny-480' will most likely fail, since opkg downloads files to /tmp, which is tmpfs
  • [22:47:58] <koen> (apart from the obvious typo in the package name)
  • [22:48:29] <jkridner> ah.
  • [22:48:54] <koen> that isn't a problem when building it with OE or narcissus
  • [22:49:09] <koen> or when you have /tmp on a non tmpfs volume
  • [22:49:27] <koen> or when you have enough swap :)
  • [22:49:35] <koen> or a 1GB ram beagle
  • [22:49:52] <bkero> That would be nice
  • [22:50:39] <Xenion> koen, is 1080p with beagle possible ?
  • [22:50:44] <Xenion> i mean video
  • [22:51:07] <koen> Xenion: you might get 1080p24 output on DVI
  • [22:51:26] <koen> but decoding it would probably be too much for the beagle
  • [22:52:42] <Xenion> koen, too bad
  • [22:52:55] <Xenion> not even using dsp or gl or something like that ?
  • [22:53:14] <koen> people say it's a memory bandwidth issue
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  • [22:54:40] <Xenion> hum
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  • [22:55:08] <Xenion> it's just that .. 720p is nice yes, but to be a "multi media device" 1080p is nearly a must have these days
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  • [22:55:44] <koen> that's probably something for omap4 or omap5
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  • [22:56:51] <ssvb> koen: like omap5 from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omap? ;-)
  • [22:57:20] <Pavlov> i just want a cortex a9 board
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  • [22:58:21] <koen> ssvb: no :)
  • [22:59:47] <bkero> Yum yum dual A8's
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  • [23:00:19] * koen wants quad A9 + 4x neon + 4x c67x
  • [23:00:31] <koen> no need for SGX, we can run a GL stack on one of the dsps
  • [23:01:25] <Xenion> arch/arm/kernel/built-in.o: In function `__irq_svc':
  • [23:01:25] <Xenion> io.c:(.text+0x2a8): undefined reference to `OMAP2_VA_IC_BASE'
  • [23:01:26] <Xenion> hm
  • [23:01:33] <Xenion> what's that's supposed to mean
  • [23:01:59] <Xenion> my .config contain nothing about omap2
  • [23:03:14] <koen> omap3 code is shared with omap2 code in the kernel
  • [23:03:39] <Xenion> koen, i saw that
  • [23:03:46] <Xenion> but what does he wan't from me ?
  • [23:03:56] <Xenion> i found nothing to this reference :/
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