• [00:00:00] <ZeZu> anyone know how i can kill this X setup UI ? its stuck
  • [00:00:38] <ZeZu> should have launched vnc in the background on my only terminal over serial
  • [00:01:18] <ZeZu> gpe-autostart ?
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  • [00:06:00] <mru> does anyone know where to find the gnu sh4 abi spec?
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  • [00:30:24] <ZeZu> hmm
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  • [00:32:39] <JAF> question, is a mini USB type A necessary to get a usb hub to work with the beagle, or can I hack a mini B instead?
  • [00:32:54] <mru> you can use a mini b
  • [00:33:05] <mru> mini A is required for automatic mode selection
  • [00:34:06] <JAF> just solder pins 4 and 5 together right?
  • [00:35:25] <mru> you can configure the kernel to always use host mode
  • [00:36:02] <mru> you probably won't get power on the port that way, but you really want external power for the hub anyway
  • [00:36:17] <JAF> uh, how do I do that? I've only seen the premade image
  • [00:37:16] <JAF> I have a powered hub :)
  • [00:38:50] <geckosenator> can you configure it to always be device mode?
  • [00:39:39] <geckosenator> so it can be a keyboard
  • [00:42:32] <ZeZu> guile : async.c:250: error: ignoring return value of 'write', declared with attribute warn_unused_result
  • [00:43:32] <ZeZu> this is for guile-native-1.8.5-r0 task 3073 of 6359 in beagleboard-demo-image
  • [00:43:59] <mru> sloppy coding, but probably harmless
  • [00:44:38] <ZeZu> it stops the build, should i just modiy async.c myself?
  • [00:45:19] <ZeZu> dont think i want to remove -Wall
  • [00:46:17] <mru> remove -Werror
  • [00:47:38] <ZeZu> err, thats what i mean
  • [00:47:58] <ZeZu> where are the CFLAGS located ?
  • [00:55:35] <ZeZu> i just modified the code and made a diff. hopefully its return value is int
  • [00:56:07] <mru> if that's the write() system call, it returns int
  • [00:56:50] <ZeZu> yes it does but of course its an error to have an unused variable too !
  • [01:01:26] <ZeZu> one more time ..
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  • [01:28:33] <ZeZu> changing the makefile was deff. faster than fixing, libguile seems to do this in a few places, but if i wanted to submit a patch where do i do so? commit via git or submit a patch?
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  • [01:38:07] <RobotGuy> Oh my, I have stuff created for Beagle Board! :D
  • [01:40:18] <RobotGuy> I may have to order a BeagleBoard in Jan.
  • [01:40:26] <Crofton> RobotGuy, congratulations
  • [01:40:36] <RobotGuy> Thanks!
  • [01:40:50] <RobotGuy> Now I have to learn how to create custom kernels and images for Beagle.
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  • [01:58:53] <RobotGuy> I definitely think I will be getting a Beagle Board. That will happen in Jan. I have to replace my monitor next month and get a new cordless keyboard/trackball
  • [01:59:52] <RobotGuy> I may have found the new "brain" for my robot. :)
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  • [02:03:45] <JAF_> q: to configure the kernel I just edit the omap3_beagle_defconfig file before compiling the kernel? (y/n)
  • [02:04:55] <ds2> RobotGuy???: getting a LCD monitor?
  • [02:05:11] <RobotGuy> Yes. :)
  • [02:05:25] <calculus> with digital inputs?
  • [02:05:58] <RobotGuy> Yes. :)
  • [02:05:59] <ds2> be sure to get a DVI-D to HDMI cable while you are at it
  • [02:06:35] <RobotGuy> It has RGB/DVI/HDMI/Component inputs.
  • [02:06:51] <calculus> sadly, none of my monitors have digital in and my tv only has coax in
  • [02:07:08] <ds2> the HDMI or DVI inputs would let you use it with the Beagle
  • [02:07:28] <RobotGuy> I'm planning to get a Samsung T220HD.
  • [02:07:30] <RobotGuy> ds2: Yes, indeed. :)
  • [02:11:19] <JAF_> :(
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  • [02:15:37] <RobotGuy> JAF_: Why the frown?
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  • [02:16:34] <JAF_> no one answers my questions :/
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  • [02:21:03] <robclark_> jaf2: does this help: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSoftCompile <-- scroll down to 'Compiling Kernel' at bottom of page
  • [02:23:31] <jaf2> robclark_: thanks, but that compiles the image and skips any sort of configuration, what I want is to build something with OTG host and a few other drivers as default
  • [02:24:25] <robclark_> you can do a menuconfig after the omap3_beagle_defconfig step to tweak the config
  • [02:25:38] <jaf2> oh, I tried to replace omap3 with menuconfig but that was no go
  • [02:25:42] <jaf2> thanks I'll try that
  • [02:26:24] <robclark_> yeah.. do the omap3_beagle_defconfig step first, that will at least get the config in the right ballpark
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  • [02:30:03] <jaf2> well, that's weird, without menuconfig it compiles no prob. with menuconfig it spits out a bunch of errors
  • [02:31:07] <robclark_> I doubt all possible config options would work... but..
  • [02:32:04] <robclark_> how far different is the .config file after the omap3_beagle_defconfig step vs after the menuconfig step.. make a copy of .config after the omap3_beagle_defconfig step and diff the two
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  • [02:34:37] <jaf2> they're the exact same. I guess menuconfig does not even start
  • [02:35:20] <robclark_> oh, maybe I am not understanding you properly..
  • [02:35:35] <robclark_> normally the .config would be overwritten when you exit the menu system
  • [02:35:46] <robclark_> but it sounds like you aren't even getting that far
  • [02:36:04] <jaf2> oh, sorry, after I do the menuconfig line after the distclean line
  • [02:36:32] <jaf2> make CROSS_CO... omap3... menuconfig is what gives me a lot of errors
  • [02:36:35] <robclark_> ahh, no, do the omap3_beagle_defconfig step after distclean, but before the menuconfig
  • [02:37:12] <robclark_> also, if you have prob's with the menu, you can try the old-school 'make CROSS_... config' (instead of menuconfig)
  • [02:37:27] <jaf2> mkey let me try that
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  • [02:40:11] <jaf2> yeah, I guess there is something else wrong with my setup. I do omap3 by itself ->OK then menuconfig by itself ->errors. I do omap3 -> OK then omap3.. menuconfig -> error
  • [02:40:36] <jaf2> I guess it's time to go oldschool :)
  • [02:41:30] <robclark_> could be... are you on a linux system? I would have assumed that the menuconfig would work ok.. it even works on my mac.
  • [02:43:29] <jaf2> I am running a debian virtual machine on XP
  • [02:44:12] <robclark_> hmm, I would have ASSumed that you would have what is needed for menuconfig... but I don't know for sure..
  • [02:45:24] <robclark_> if you still have problems, post the output of the command (via http://pastebin.com/) and I'll have a look (after 5 min or so, I've got to pop out for a minute)
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  • [02:47:00] <RobotGuy> Where does the cross compiler get installed?
  • [02:47:04] <jaf2> mkey thanks, I'll try config first tho and see if I can get something good going :)
  • [02:48:18] <jaf2> RobotGuy: depends on the crosscompiler, I got codesourcery installed in /home/<user>/CodeSourcery/
  • [02:49:14] <RobotGuy> Mine was installed by the build, since I didn't have a development environment setup.
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  • [02:52:35] <jaf2> what are you using? I think codesourcery defaults to that directory
  • [02:52:51] <ZeZu> gst-ffmpeg-0.10.4-r7: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: no input files
  • [02:57:53] <RobotGuy> jaf2: My cross compiler was built during the initial build.
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  • [03:00:05] <RobotGuy> I found my compiler, but I do NOT like where it was installed.
  • [03:00:44] <RobotGuy> ./stuff/robotguy/ARM9/Beagle/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-intermediate-4.3.1-r16/staging-pkg/cross/bin/
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  • [03:01:35] <RobotGuy> tmp dirs are always prime candiates for deletion when space needs to be freed.
  • [03:02:08] <jaf2> oh, uh, are you using openembedded?
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  • [03:03:12] <RobotGuy> Yes, Open Embedded
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  • [03:05:24] <jaf2> yeah, then I have no idea
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  • [03:53:02] <RobotGuy> Hmmmm, seems the cross compiler that is built automatically is not complete enough to put elsewhere.
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  • [04:02:12] <RobotGuy> I'd like to have a *complete* cross compiler for use with Beagle.
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  • [04:06:46] <ds2> download the 2007q3 tarball from CS
  • [04:21:23] <RobotGuy> I found only 2008 stuff
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  • [04:29:27] <ds2> follow the link just below it that says all editions
  • [04:29:47] <ds2> or - here it is directly:
  • [04:29:50] <ds2> http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/release316
  • [04:34:23] <RobotGuy> Thanks
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  • [05:00:04] <RobotGuy> I'm building a kernel with the new 2007 CS compiler
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  • [05:19:14] <RobotGuy> Doing "make uImage" got me a 2.1 MB image, where as doing "make zImage" got me a 1.1 MB image.
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  • [05:24:32] <RobotGuy> Ah, I had to install the uboot-mkimage package. Now all is well. :)
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  • [05:42:44] <jaf2> RobotGuy: what did you
  • [05:43:05] <jaf2> whops pressed enter before time
  • [05:43:21] <RobotGuy> I'm here now.
  • [05:43:33] <jaf2> anyway the question was how did you install that thing
  • [05:43:54] <RobotGuy> For Ubuntu/Kubuntu, etc, you have to install the uboot-mkimage package.
  • [05:44:08] <jaf2> apt-get install?
  • [05:44:10] <RobotGuy> What thing are you asking about?
  • [05:44:28] <jaf2> yes, that
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  • [05:45:28] <jaf2> I couldn't get apt-get install to work on debian, maybe I should change OS
  • [05:47:14] <yogesh> hi, i already boot beagle, using nfs over USB on fedora, but on i want to start in on ubuntu-8-10 where i have to add ifcfg-usb0 in ubuntu
  • [05:50:03] <RobotGuy> apt-get install should work by default on Debian.
  • [05:50:18] <RobotGuy> Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xbuntu are based on Debian.
  • [05:50:38] <RobotGuy> I'm running Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE gui).
  • [05:53:07] <jaf2> yeah, I know, but this particular debian install has been giving me lots of issues, it cant find the package for some reason
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  • [06:01:01] <jaf2> well, thanks for your help, see you another day
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  • [06:08:20] <ZeZu> in OE i get warning about dependancies for openzaurus-sa which can't be found, and getting missing targets in ffmpeg*, anyone know if these have anything to do with each other or what might be causing ffmpeg makefile to be screwed up?
  • [06:09:19] <ZeZu> http://rafb.net/p/b5ng2n70.html < here is build log for gst-ffmpeg-0.10.4-r7/
  • [06:11:52] <ZeZu> err, maybe this what was mru was talking about with needing updated uboot ?
  • [06:13:08] <wbrown> I'm tempted to make an amiga emulator SD disk image. :)
  • [06:13:18] <wbrown> Plug it into the beagle board, poof, you boot it.
  • [06:13:27] <wbrown> You can populate the FAT filesystem with ADF's.
  • [06:21:59] <ZeZu> :| i dont see anything wrong with gst-ffmpeg*\ext\ffmpeg\Makefile
  • [06:23:26] <RobotGuy> ZeZu: I'm told that is nothing to worry about. I asked the same question.
  • [06:23:45] <RobotGuy> With respect to the openzaurus question
  • [06:24:48] <ZeZu> ok thanks
  • [06:25:06] <ZeZu> can't figure out whats going on with this though, its actually the compiler it can't find .. confusing
  • [06:25:42] <ZeZu> looks like ../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool is what is running the compiler
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  • [06:27:56] <ZeZu> indeed its: /bin/sh ../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc
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  • [06:32:51] <ZeZu> ok must be in the makefile the gcc target is running and not finding files so bad working directory maybe :|
  • [06:33:30] <ZeZu> might just have to remove this package
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  • [07:22:08] <Eanmig> i need some help getting the kernel with git
  • [07:22:36] <Eanmig> im trying to get the 2.6.26 kernel from the angstrom distro but when i do a git it gives me 2.6.28
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  • [07:23:24] <geckosenator> hi
  • [07:24:19] <geckosenator> I just made schematics for 3 boards. hdmi -> parallel, parallel -> vga, and parallel -> parallel (level translation) anyone want to check them to see if I did it right?
  • [07:47:22] <ZeZu> are the opengl drivers vaporware or am i missing something? the TI rep. said to download the plat. support and they dont seem to be in there after waiting two days for that part of the site to be back up
  • [07:48:55] <kulve> opengl es drivers are not public (yet)
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  • [07:53:13] <ZeZu> good to know as much as it is advertised its not available
  • [07:54:07] <ZeZu> same with the beagleboard site, opengl es capable (but you get no drivers or hw docs!)
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  • [07:57:32] <kulve> according to the rumours the open source opengl es kernel drivers and a closed source opengl es user-space stack should be available this year
  • [08:02:14] <koen> mru: yeah, the git rev got lost when you rebased the tree, but there's a tarball of it on the angstrom source mirror, so I left it as-is
  • [08:02:25] <ZeZu> which doesn't leave a whole lot of time, was hoping to port a few things now, guess they wont have video for a while
  • [08:03:46] <Eanmig> there is a tarball of 2.6.26?
  • [08:04:18] <ds2> kulve: there are copies of the driver floating around but the drivers are specific to the kernel at the moment :/
  • [08:05:16] <ZeZu> someone else told me that, trying to dig one of them up atm, think i may have found a demo image with one, not sure yet htough
  • [08:05:42] <Eanmig> can anyone even read this?
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  • [08:05:50] <ZeZu> Eanmig, sure
  • [08:06:29] <kulve> ds2: I know
  • [08:06:29] <Eanmig> im just trying to get a kernel recompiled for the beagleboard with the spca5xx webcam driver.. and i've been trying for two days with no success
  • [08:07:13] <Eanmig> or success at getting the driver working but nothing else does
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  • [08:07:53] <ZeZu> this image has clutter libs but not libgl ...
  • [08:09:19] <ds2> ZeZu: which image?
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  • [08:09:39] <kulve> ZeZu: and there's no libgl for beagle, only libgles
  • [08:09:46] <ds2> Eanmig:You will need all the USB patches for ISOC endpoints
  • [08:09:54] <ds2> and even then it barely works
  • [08:10:23] <Eanmig> ISOC?
  • [08:10:41] <ds2> Isochronous Endpoints
  • [08:10:54] <Eanmig> i managed to get the driver compiled.. but then my fb broke
  • [08:11:01] <ds2> vs interrupt and bulk endpoints
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  • [08:12:08] <Eanmig> if i could just get a copy of the kernel source from angstrom demo i should be able to just compile the module and add it to my working kernel
  • [08:12:25] <ZeZu> ds2, esc image
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  • [08:12:42] <ds2> ZeZu: the driver is in there. look in root's home directory
  • [08:13:01] <ds2> ZeZu: You will need to run the installer to accept the license then install it
  • [08:14:06] <ZeZu> in the root directory there is only movies and a few scripts plus demo source that i assume plays the video
  • [08:14:31] <ZeZu> in the libs directory there are binary libs, but i dont see any installer, maybe i'm blind it is 3am :|
  • [08:15:27] <ds2> ZeZu: look for a huge script in /root
  • [08:15:38] <ds2> run that, that is the installer/wrapper
  • [08:15:46] <ZeZu> missing from this image it seems
  • [08:15:51] <ds2> huge as in 30M
  • [08:16:09] <ds2> if it is the ESC image for a 2G card, it should be there. I made it so =)
  • [08:16:16] <ZeZu> /root contains two directories gst and ESC341, and one file: motd
  • [08:16:52] <ds2> this is not the 'ESC' image...that's the one for the OLPC stuff...this is a 512M image,IIRC
  • [08:17:10] <ZeZu> ok
  • [08:18:02] <ds2> the ESC image I am refering to fits on a 2G SD card
  • [08:18:43] <ZeZu> found a dvsdk_setuplinux_3_00_00_13.bin
  • [08:18:49] <ZeZu> its 400mb+
  • [08:21:06] <ds2> don't have the name handy
  • [08:21:18] <ds2> that seems a bit big
  • [08:21:32] <ZeZu> indeed
  • [08:21:55] <ZeZu> will find out whats on it anyhow in chroot
  • [08:25:12] <ZeZu> thanks guys, i'm off to bed, figure out some more of this in the morning
  • [08:30:07] <ldesnogu> mru: fldi0/1 have been fixed in qemu, thanks for reporting :)
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  • [08:42:48] <Beagle6> hello, did anyone know the latest Angstrom demo Image works fine?
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  • [08:49:04] <BBdev> Q: I'm trying to compile 2.6_kernel_revb_v2 and i get this message: "Error: selected proccesor does not support 'cpsie i'
  • [08:49:34] <BBdev> i'm using Sourcery G++ for arm
  • [08:50:34] <BBdev> how can i select the procesor before i compile? (using OMAP cortex-a8 BeagleBoard B4 )
  • [08:54:13] <koen> why are you trying to compile that 2 year kernel?
  • [08:58:17] <koen> 2 year old , that is
  • [09:05:40] <BBdev> were can i get new one?
  • [09:08:55] <BBdev> i download it from google groups download section
  • [09:09:24] <BBdev> i want really basic kernel
  • [09:15:14] <mru> ldesnogu: thanks, can someone please implement ftrv now?
  • [09:15:28] <mru> and while at it, fipr
  • [09:15:52] <ldesnogu> mru: I will give it a try
  • [09:16:36] <mru> I had a go myself, and I came up with something that probably works, but it's probably doing it the wrong way...
  • [09:17:39] <ldesnogu> mru: send me the patch, I'll take a look
  • [09:18:10] <ldesnogu> are the software manuals what I should look at or is there an architecture document?
  • [09:18:10] <mru> I want to tinker with it some more first, will send it tonight
  • [09:18:38] <mru> I'm looking at a renesas document with number REJ09B0318-0600
  • [09:19:21] <ldesnogu> that's it then
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  • [09:21:37] <BBdev> i'm trying to compile 2.6.22.18 kernel and got this message: "Error: selected proccesor does not support 'cpsie i' i'm using sourcery G++, my compile commands are from google code..
  • [09:21:58] <mru> kernel too old
  • [09:24:00] <BBdev> make-cross-compile=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- disclean -> omap_beagle_defconfigs ->
  • [09:24:13] <BBdev> where can i ket new kernel??
  • [09:24:18] <BBdev> get
  • [09:25:04] <BBdev> mru: where can i download source for newer Kernel?
  • [09:26:28] <BBdev> i need basic and stable kernel
  • [09:27:15] <geist> kernel.org
  • [09:27:32] <mru> that's a bit vague
  • [09:27:44] <mru> there are hundreds of kernel trees there
  • [09:27:56] <mru> you want the linux-omap tree
  • [09:28:04] <geist> at kernel.org
  • [09:28:22] <mru> I said it was vague, not wrong
  • [09:29:35] <geist> actually i was thinking of the ftp site, but i guess he does want linux-omap
  • [09:33:18] <BBdev> i need it for omap3 (beagle Board B4)
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  • [09:34:49] <BBdev> what kernel version r u using? i dont want angstrom kernel, i want minimum tasks running on my kernel since i want to write "real time" app
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  • [09:46:31] <kulve> BBdev: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
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  • [10:23:59] <BBdev> kulve: how can i download it using your url?
  • [10:25:19] <BBdev> i used # git <git://your url>
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  • [10:26:40] <BBdev> how should i use git command?
  • [10:27:32] <kulve> man git
  • [10:27:54] <kulve> (and that url was meant for browser)
  • [10:30:05] <BBdev> i know.. i replace the http:// to git://
  • [10:30:48] <kulve> Don't
  • [10:41:50] <BBdev> I'm sending "git fetch http://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git"
  • [10:42:05] <BBdev> and I'm getting "fatal: Not a git repository"
  • [10:42:11] * koen shouldn't be committing stuff while being on hold in a phone call
  • [10:50:56] <likewise> hey all
  • [10:51:22] <koen> hey likewise
  • [10:52:13] <kulve> BBdev: if you open that page on your browser you see the git url there..
  • [10:52:17] <kulve> BBdev: then git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git
  • [10:52:18] <koen> now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBiEfxACgbQ is stuck in my head
  • [10:52:21] <kulve> that takes a while
  • [10:52:34] <kulve> BBdev: hups, "git clone git://.."
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  • [10:53:09] <BBdev> works, thanks... (a while indid!)
  • [10:53:16] <kulve> BBdev: http://book.git-scm.com/index.html
  • [10:53:53] <BBdev> I'm more of an SVN guy, so I used this http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html#browse
  • [10:54:18] <kulve> you used to be a svn guy. There's no turning back anymore
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  • [11:44:30] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [11:46:17] <jkridner> kulve is right. I also used to be an svn guy.
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  • [11:59:34] <koen> hey jkridner
  • [11:59:45] * koen went from cvs to bitkeeper
  • [12:01:47] <jkridner> I did a stint with bitkeeper, then perforce. Then, there were the dark days of clearcase. Very powerful tool, don't get me wrong, but you need a team to support it or it will become your life.
  • [12:02:42] <jkridner> clearcase had me dreaming of getting back to cvs, so svn was the better option for a small team.
  • [12:05:56] <koen> cute, people are using their old gumstix parts with the beagle
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  • [12:51:08] <BBdev> Q: how do i use mkimage to create uImage?
  • [12:52:33] <BBdev> i have image, zImage files in boot dir..
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  • [13:12:06] <kulve> BBdev: compile the kernel by "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=... uImage" when you have the mkimage from u-boot/tools in the PATH
  • [13:12:30] <kulve> that uImage target in kernel knows how to use the mkimage to create the uImage
  • [13:14:02] <montamer> hi i just created a Beagleboard-demo-image using OE. and using x11vnc to display on vncviewer ........ but im struck at e17 login setting when it asked to select profile, i cant pass this ....... any ideas
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  • [13:36:06] <koen> zuh: I just runtime tested your xorg driver, it still works on the evm :)
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  • [14:21:49] <koen> man
  • [14:22:02] <koen> I just found a site that will make me sooooo more productive
  • [14:22:05] <koen> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=beagleboard
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  • [14:26:51] <koen> sakoman_: I solved the mime problem: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=commit;h=aaf739e6a8f76ca2cb2ed51cf12734951d0f167b
  • [14:29:04] <sakoman_> koen: nice work!
  • [14:30:47] <sakoman_> montamer: to get rid of the profile issue you will need to add some e-wm config packages to your image (i.e. e-wm-config-standard, e-wm-config-default)
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  • [14:31:40] <sakoman_> montamer: do you also get a language selection dialog with an empty list? I haven't figured out how to eliminate that yet :-(
  • [14:32:03] <koen> doesn't add e-wm thse packages by default?
  • [14:32:16] <sakoman_> koen: nope they are optional now
  • [14:32:47] <koen> grrrrrr
  • [14:33:02] <sakoman_> looks like o bunch of other changes just went in, including a sample image
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  • [14:34:36] <koen> went in where?
  • [14:34:46] <sakoman_> oe.dev
  • [14:35:00] <koen> you mean ullime-image?
  • [14:35:27] <sakoman_> yes
  • [14:35:39] <koen> that's a bad example image :)
  • [14:35:51] <sakoman_> lots of stuff in there!
  • [14:36:31] <sakoman_> what makes it bad -- haven't looked closely. just woke up & haven't even finshed one cup of coffee
  • [14:36:45] <koen> that image is going to break with non glibc builds
  • [14:36:53] <koen> it doesn't use tasks
  • [14:37:18] <koen> it uses a post-process command, so you can't recreate the image from the feeds
  • [14:37:19] <sakoman_> yeah, I noticed that -- hence the very long list of packages
  • [14:37:49] <koen> and it exploits a bug in the parser
  • [14:37:54] <sakoman_> heh
  • [14:38:00] <koen> comments aren't supposed to work in lists
  • [14:38:13] <sakoman_> otherwise how do you like it? ;-)
  • [14:38:58] <koen> it's a good example of what happens when things don't get reviewed :)
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  • [14:58:11] <koen> oh dear
  • [14:58:21] <koen> another e17 update went in
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  • [15:02:28] <koen> sakoman_: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/bc892e3f0fa08fe30d64d4a7c9156b59.png
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  • [15:03:03] <koen> sakoman_: I do have some drawing issues, nautilus draws the "text inside icon" preview thingy next to the icon
  • [15:03:36] <koen> sakoman_: the screenshot also shows the secret options needed to start it in a sane way ;)
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  • [15:21:37] <Curtis> Hi
  • [15:21:48] <sakoman_> koen: the new e17 seems to have some drawing issues too
  • [15:21:58] <Curtis> Quite often (with different MMCs, fresh formatted) I get this error: "mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data"
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  • [15:22:12] <Curtis> What could be the problem?
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  • [15:23:21] <koen> sakoman_: the drawing issues went away when I disabled the 16 bit engine
  • [15:23:36] <koen> sakoman_: the omap is fast enough for the 32 bit one
  • [15:27:01] <BBdev> kulve: I finally got the master head version working, things looks ok. I did noticed one thing: the device does connects as an ethernet RNDIS device, I checked the config file as saw "CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS=y", but still it does enumarate. Any ideas|
  • [15:27:03] <BBdev> ?
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  • [15:28:46] <BBdev> anyone?
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  • [15:34:29] <kulve> I usually take the patches from OE as koen has tested everything for me :)
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  • [15:47:31] <RobotGuy> How do I tell the OE environment to use a different toolchain? I can't seem to find that info anywhere.
  • [15:52:07] <suihkulokki> has anyone setup uboot on beagle to provide a serial console over usb serial emulation?
  • [15:52:14] <suihkulokki> I understand openmoko does that
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  • [15:58:45] <florian> koen: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7591575275.html
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  • [16:01:09] <BBdev> ok, that was nice.. i load the new uImage to BB and connect it to BB, after few sec, i got windows blue screen..
  • [16:02:55] <BBdev> so.. how can i get kernel version with usb-eth that i can complie with current version of Sourcery G++ ?
  • [16:05:34] <BBdev> i have 2.6.28-rc5 , the compilation was ok, and uImage is working on BB, but theres not support for USB over Ethernet..
  • [16:06:27] <RobotGuy> BBdev: Are you using the 2007q3 version of G++?
  • [16:06:35] <RobotGuy> I just installed that yesterday.
  • [16:07:37] <BBdev> i'm using the 30 days trail version, since i want to develop with eclipse. i download it from sourcery webpage last week
  • [16:07:57] <RobotGuy> Ahhh, OK.
  • [16:08:37] <RobotGuy> I need to find out how to tell OE to use the full G++ lite compiler instead of the one it builds, which does not have C++ capability (no g++).
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  • [16:13:26] <BBdev> what do u mean?
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  • [16:17:38] <Crofton|irssi> RobotGuy: OE builds the full g++ suite
  • [16:18:03] <RobotGuy> Crofton|irssi: Hmmmmm. I didn't see any g++.
  • [16:18:13] * RobotGuy checks again
  • [16:18:16] <BBdev> is someone here works eith ethernet over usb with RNDIS ? what Kernel version do u use?
  • [16:18:36] <BBdev> with
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  • [16:19:21] <RobotGuy> Crofton|irssi: I see arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc but no g++
  • [16:21:28] <Crofton|irssi> ls -l oe/tmp/cross/armv7a/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++
  • [16:21:32] <Crofton|irssi> is there for me
  • [16:22:05] <RobotGuy> I didn't get a g++, so don't know why.
  • [16:22:19] <Crofton|irssi> what directory are you looking in?
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  • [16:25:20] <RobotGuy> I'm looking in /stuff/robotguy/ARM9/Beagle/tmp/cross/armv7a/bin
  • [16:29:08] <koen> florian: great!
  • [16:29:13] <koen> florian: hadn't seen that yet :)
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  • [16:29:45] <florian> koen: Its quite cheap (in fact not below USD 100 like the artice says)...
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  • [16:37:30] <BBdev> koen: can you tell me witch kernel version have usb over ethernet (RNDIS) working in it? (or just the omap3-beagle-config file)?
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  • [16:48:19] <fatal_> seems like alot of changes are stuck in the montavista git tree, why aren't they getting merged into linus tree?
  • [16:50:22] <RobotGuy> Does the console-image include Python?
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  • [16:52:58] <BBdev> does someone have success with USB-ethernet RNDIS with new Kernel version?
  • [16:55:19] <koen> fatal_: the mv tree is a 1:1 copy of http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
  • [16:55:40] <koen> fatal_: and tony sends stuff to RMK, which will end up in linus' tree
  • [16:58:56] <koen> BBdev: I haven't used usb client since 2.6.25
  • [17:01:15] <RobotGuy> Crofton|irssi: I just did a "bitbake console-image" again and still don't have a g++ in /stuff/robotguy/ARM9/Beagle/tmp/cross/armv7a/bin
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  • [17:12:56] <RobotGuy> Crofton|irssi: I was wrong. I do have a g++ now. I didn't have it before, which is odd.
  • [17:21:43] <RobotGuy> Uh oh, I over wrote my kernel .config file. Is there a way to restore it?
  • [17:23:19] <BBdev> mmm.. i really stack with this.. why thers no support for RNDIS in omap3-beagle-config in the new kernel version??
  • [17:23:53] <BBdev> stuck..
  • [17:25:35] <zuh> koen: Great! At least now it shouldn't fubar whatever mode happens to be active...
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  • [17:34:07] <koen> zuh: with DSS2 you could open fb2 as well to get 2 overlays :)
  • [17:38:44] <fatal_> koen: ok, maybe my impression is wrong. I was just looking at the arch/arm/omap2/mach-omap3beagle.c which in linus tree only has the initial commit from 2008-04 and nothing after that.... Was there anything new in the 2.6.28 merge window or maybe things will start moving in the next merge window? Would be nice to not have to depend too much on out-of-tree stuff if I decide to jump on the beagle train... :)
  • [17:39:23] <koen> fatal_: RMK got moody again and iirc ony sdp support was merged
  • [17:39:30] <Crofton|irssi> fatal_: the linux-omap guys are working on getting stuff in tree
  • [17:40:36] <fatal_> is linux-arm the correct mailing list to watch for the merge battles? :)
  • [17:41:06] <koen> that or linux-omap
  • [17:41:08] <Crofton|irssi> linux-omap is the best place to keep up with things
  • [17:41:17] <Crofton|irssi> I think there is an echo here
  • [17:41:31] * koen tries
  • [17:41:33] <koen> echo!
  • [17:42:18] <koen> nope, no echo
  • [17:43:15] * fatal_ doesn't mind useful information being echoed though. :)
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  • [17:48:39] <zuh> koen: woo, PIP would be nice :)
  • [17:48:45] <BBDev> Guys, Help --- I'm in pain! I can't get version v2.6.28-rc5 to enumarate as an RNDIS device... Is there something in the config file or something
  • [17:48:46] <BBDev> ?
  • [17:51:18] <adj_> i guess you have enabled CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS ?
  • [17:53:28] <BBDev> it's already "=y", but "CONFIG_USB_ETH" is "=m" -- whatever that means
  • [17:53:41] <sakoman_> koen: with all the work you are doing on nautilus, etc. do you have plans for a follow-on to demo image?
  • [17:53:48] <BBDev> when changing this to "=y" I get blue screen
  • [17:53:55] <BBDev> :-(
  • [17:54:08] <koen> sakoman_: I'm thinking about it
  • [17:54:31] <koen> sakoman_: the problem is that most people don't 'get' package management so I have to cram everything and its dog into a single image
  • [17:54:57] <sakoman_> koen: yes, I understand
  • [17:55:04] <sakoman_> same issue here
  • [17:55:26] <koen> "angstrom is nice and small, try this images, it's only a gazillion MB"
  • [17:55:30] <koen> -s
  • [17:55:53] <sakoman_> there does seem to be a "market" for a desktop-lite image
  • [17:56:02] <koen> yeah
  • [17:56:13] <sakoman_> or maybe even a desktop-not-so-lite
  • [17:56:14] <BBDev> adj: any ideas?
  • [17:56:20] <koen> that's why I added gdm, nautilus, gnome-control-center, etc
  • [17:56:38] <koen> for an udumpty-image
  • [17:56:44] <koen> -n
  • [17:57:11] <sakoman_> I didn't notice the udumpty-image checkin ;-)
  • [17:57:31] <koen> maybe garren or sweetlilmre can come up with another cutesy african word
  • [17:57:46] <koen> udumpty doesn't exist yet :)
  • [17:57:57] <sakoman_> just a gleam in your eye . . .
  • [17:58:34] <sakoman_> have you tried the new e17 yet?
  • [17:59:02] <adj_> BBDev: not really, sorry. I have CONFIG_USB_ETH enabled with 2.6.27-rc7 (+patches) and it seems to work for me
  • [18:02:38] <BBDev> how do I apply patchs?
  • [18:04:17] <koen> sakoman_: I built it, didn't test e-wm yet
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  • [18:04:47] <sakoman_> I've just started playing with it
  • [18:04:55] <RobotGuy> It looks like I am going to have to recreate my Beagle dev env. I blitzed my kernel config.
  • [18:05:13] <koen> sakoman_: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d96e650a53a8116387ffebe3d7979a714016512
  • [18:06:06] <sakoman_> koen: heh, looks like fun. I'l try it
  • [18:07:16] <koen> sakoman_: I'm pretty certain that it doesn't work
  • [18:07:23] <koen> sakoman_: patches accepted :)
  • [18:07:32] * koen is out of SD cards atm
  • [18:07:34] <sakoman_> koen: I'm struggling with flakey boot issues with rc5
  • [18:07:45] <koen> I'm still on rc4
  • [18:08:07] <BBDev> koen, is rc5 considered stable?
  • [18:08:14] <sakoman_> for some reason rootwait isn't working right
  • [18:08:39] <sakoman_> At least that's the way it looks at the moment
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  • [18:21:05] <koen> sakoman_: is the mmc fix in rc4?
  • [18:21:22] <sakoman_> koen: which one?
  • [18:21:48] <sakoman_> printenv
  • [18:21:55] <sakoman_> oops :-)
  • [18:22:17] <koen> sakoman_: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=blob;f=packages/linux/linux-omap/fix-mmc.diff;h=dfc531c3ef7045cd481c8b9336684b16ea03806b;hb=5f7bde74179a9eac56e874687f4837d3af759878
  • [18:22:30] <koen> iirc it's from gravzydas
  • [18:23:19] <sakoman_> yeah, I remember running into that bug. IIRC Tony merged it quite quickly
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  • [18:23:36] <sakoman_> it's a crash at boot kind of thing
  • [18:23:50] <koen> yeah
  • [18:24:02] <koen> it was masked by the rc4 8250 serial bug
  • [18:24:10] <sakoman_> my issue now is a "works sometimes, sometimes not" thing
  • [18:24:15] <koen> ah
  • [18:24:17] <koen> heisenbugs
  • [18:24:53] <sakoman_> really annoying. will work for 10 boots in a row and then not at all for what seems like a gazzillion attempts
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  • [18:29:25] <sakoman_> Ah, interesting. It eventually does boot. It just waits a *really* long time before it decides that the mmc is mounted.
  • [18:29:45] <sakoman_> About 2 minutes after you see the mmc mount message in the log!
  • [18:30:17] <sakoman_> I was just being too impatient I guess
  • [18:30:29] <sakoman_> Something is clearly broken though!
  • [18:32:18] <koen> some irq being masked?
  • [18:32:45] <koen> sakoman_: did you see that the asoc patch in the mailinglist redifin
  • [18:32:55] <koen> redefined some registers?
  • [18:33:05] <sakoman_> koen: yes, I replied
  • [18:33:22] <Crofton|irssi> khilman: ping
  • [18:33:48] <khilman> Crofton|irssi: pong
  • [18:34:15] <Crofton|irssi> is there a good explanation of the PM stuff you are working on anywhere?
  • [18:34:26] <koen> sakoman_: ah, your reply hasn't reached my inbox yet
  • [18:34:35] <Crofton|irssi> particularly wrt to how to influence power use from user space?
  • [18:35:20] <sakoman_> koen: sometimes seems to take forever for things to make their way through the system
  • [18:35:30] <khilman> Crofton|irssi: no. the ony standard userspace interface is PM QoS knobs
  • [18:35:55] <khilman> I'm of the opinion that userspace should not be tinkering w/PM. It should only express constraints (latency, throughput, etc.)
  • [18:36:05] <Crofton|irssi> ok
  • [18:36:14] <geckosenator> has anyone measured the power consumption when in suspend?
  • [18:36:27] <koen> khilman: using omap-pm gains me ~200mA while idling at the X desktop on the beagle
  • [18:36:36] <Crofton|irssi> but if user space uses a peripheral it is turned on, and turned off when not using?
  • [18:36:50] <Crofton|irssi> via the clock stuff?
  • [18:36:54] <geckosenator> Crofton|irssi: like usb stuff?
  • [18:37:15] <geckosenator> if you had a usb harddrive.. it could turn off when not being used
  • [18:37:16] <khilman> koen: cool, that's what I like to hear
  • [18:37:20] <Crofton|irssi> video controllers etc
  • [18:37:48] <khilman> Crofton|irssi: yes. it is the job of the driver to do aggressive clock management
  • [18:37:52] <koen> khilman: and that's at 600MHz, cpufreq should save a bit more
  • [18:37:55] <geckosenator> Crofton|irssi: the dvi framer has an enable pin that supposidly allows you to disable it to save 100mA
  • [18:38:05] <koen> not 100mA
  • [18:38:11] <koen> more like 60-80mA
  • [18:38:13] <geckosenator> oh, that's what I was told
  • [18:38:14] <geckosenator> ok
  • [18:38:20] <koen> I measured it :)
  • [18:39:25] <khilman> koen: can you mount debugfs and tell me what /debug/pm_debug/count says for IVA?
  • [18:39:32] <koen> sure
  • [18:39:38] <koen> khilman: im the mean time: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/b03e08868af7c6e0#
  • [18:40:35] <koen> oh
  • [18:40:50] <koen> I don't have pm in this kernel
  • [18:41:07] <koen> let me try building a pm20081119 kernel
  • [18:41:11] <geckosenator> can pm overclock too?
  • [18:42:43] <khilman> koen: those PM numbers will get MUCH better. Current code never hits retention or off mode
  • [18:43:51] * geckosenator is getting excited about PM
  • [18:52:17] <koen> ok, pm20081119 is compiling
  • [18:54:04] <khilman> on a minimal kernel, pm branch can full-chip off in idle
  • [18:54:33] <khilman> iow C6 is full-chip off
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  • [18:56:41] <koen> khilman: I just remembered: a few weeks ago I had a TI engineer here and he was surprised that I didn't need the lpm_omap3530 kernel module to turn on the dsp
  • [18:56:52] <koen> khilman: that confirms that uboot powers up IVA
  • [18:57:04] <khilman> doh
  • [18:57:16] <ds2> powering up the IVA...HEHEHE
  • [18:57:22] <khilman> I'm hunting for the kill switch now
  • [18:57:29] <khilman> PM init code will kill IVA :)
  • [18:58:56] <ds2> koen: what board is it that Uboot turns on the IVA?
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  • [19:00:03] <koen> beagle
  • [19:00:10] <ds2> !!
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  • [19:03:21] <koen> ok, pm kernel is booting
  • [19:03:56] <Crofton|irssi> iva is the dsp?
  • [19:04:18] <koen> khilman: http://pastebin.com/d7c7c7f7b
  • [19:04:25] <koen> Crofton|irssi: dsp + extra stuff
  • [19:04:29] <ds2> Crofton, yes
  • [19:04:39] <koen> Crofton|irssi: like the motion estimaters, loop filters, etc
  • [19:04:40] <ds2> and that thing has a nasty habbit of leaving a clock around
  • [19:05:25] <khilman> koen: thx, that confirms what I was expecting
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  • [19:07:06] <koen> khilman: any news on the cpufreq patches?
  • [19:09:12] <khilman> koen: we're working through a handful of bugs in the TI submitted patches
  • [19:09:19] <khilman> but should be in the next PM branch
  • [19:09:40] * koen hopes it isn't so full of #ifdef 3430sdp anymore
  • [19:09:55] <khilman> koen: that will be all gone
  • [19:10:00] <koen> yay!
  • [19:10:30] <khilman> and the best part is that TI will be doing the cleanup instead of me. :)
  • [19:10:58] * ds2 goes off to search for satan ice skating
  • [19:11:39] <koen> TI is in the best position to write drivers for omap
  • [19:11:44] <koen> and to clean them up :)
  • [19:11:46] <Crofton|irssi> It's good to see Ti trying to get their act together
  • [19:11:57] <mru> is it a bird? is it a plane? no... it's a PIG
  • [19:12:25] <Crofton|irssi> with lipstick?
  • [19:13:42] <khilman> koen: btw, you mentioned you saved ~200mA idling in X. what's the value?
  • [19:14:09] <khilman> I mean value in mA
  • [19:15:06] <koen> ~275mA at X desktop
  • [19:15:35] <mru> how much running my burn app?
  • [19:15:45] <koen> which drops to ~195 when the dvi framer turns off
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  • [19:16:08] <koen> mru: I think that was ~430mA
  • [19:17:24] <khilman> koen: ok, my power supply is telling me I"m ~160mA (@3.8 V) on a minimal kernel (no fb)
  • [19:18:39] <koen> is the dvi framer turned off?
  • [19:19:30] <khilman> koen: yes DSS powerdomain is in retention
  • [19:20:24] <Crofton|irssi> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200278234008&category=48708&_trksid=p2773.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D40%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D54
  • [19:20:43] <koen> khilman: iirc there's no code to turn off the framer yet
  • [19:20:49] <koen> khilman: try toggling gpio 170
  • [19:21:19] <khilman> ah, the framer. hmm
  • [19:21:36] <koen> it takes about 80mA
  • [19:22:03] <khilman> first I have to get the on-chip stuff behaving properly, then I'll worry about off chip. ;)
  • [19:22:07] <koen> Crofton|irssi: that's a PSU for a tattoo gun
  • [19:22:18] <Crofton|irssi> :)
  • [19:22:29] <koen> it does have a nice case :)
  • [19:22:43] <Crofton|irssi> I would look funny powering a beagle
  • [19:22:54] <Crofton|irssi> reminds me of gremllin|it's hat
  • [19:23:06] <koen> it reminds me of houses cane
  • [19:23:39] <koen> http://www.fashionablecanes.com/3451.html
  • [19:23:49] <geckosenator> koen: you said earlier that you saved 200mA with the pm kernel when idle?
  • [19:24:16] <koen> geckosenator: yes, when the framer powers of during display blanking as well
  • [19:24:37] <geckosenator> koen: oh, so isn't the total current draw of the board <100mA at that point/
  • [19:25:04] <koen> no
  • [19:25:22] <geckosenator> I thought the beagle board drew something like 250mA when idle normally
  • [19:26:01] <koen> more like 350mA with the non-pm kernels
  • [19:33:40] <sakoman_> koen: udumpty image fails on omapfbplay due to missing headers
  • [19:34:15] <sakoman_> koen: gnome control center also seems to have a missing dependency on eel
  • [19:34:19] <Crofton|irssi> ok, I bid on a power supply with meters :)
  • [19:34:46] <sakoman_> koen: building eel is letting the build proceed now
  • [19:34:53] <Crofton|irssi> all this talk of ma got me excited
  • [19:35:21] <koen> sakoman_: omapfbplay in OE doesn't get the header move yet
  • [19:37:05] <sakoman_> koen: I removed it to see how much further the build gets
  • [19:37:27] <sakoman_> Crofton|irssi: you've been away from home too long!
  • [19:37:58] <Crofton|irssi> yeah
  • [19:38:56] <koen> wait till we start talking about blind power and Voltage Amps
  • [19:40:23] <mru> koen: the beagle doesn't run on AC
  • [19:40:38] <ZeZu> hmm i only allocated 10gb to this partition and it looks like its running over to build beagleboard-demo-image
  • [19:41:00] <koen> mru: I can't think of a DC joke that would end up with 'VA'
  • [19:41:12] <koen> ZeZu: use rm_work
  • [19:41:31] <koen> INHERIT += " rm_work "
  • [19:41:34] <koen> in local.conf
  • [19:41:36] <mru> DC is too easy
  • [19:41:39] <ZeZu> koen, thanks
  • [19:41:43] <koen> that'll remove sources after it finishes building
  • [19:42:14] <ZeZu> will it do it to sources that it needs again then redownload too ?
  • [19:42:22] <koen> no
  • [19:42:27] <ZeZu> excellent
  • [19:42:44] <koen> "it will remove the builddir after compiling, leaves everything else"
  • [19:43:04] <ZeZu> now to see if i can't find out whats breaking ffmpeg gstreamer plugin
  • [19:43:34] <koen> if you didn't change the ffmpeg sourcerev gst-ffmpeg should build
  • [19:43:58] <ZeZu> which of course i did, and assumed that was the problem
  • [19:44:02] <koen> a newer revs bumps an soversion which trigger an API update in ffmpeg that gst-ffmpeg relies on
  • [19:44:48] <koen> the rev the ffmpeg recipe references disappeared due to a rebase (all hail git!), but the tarballs is cached on the angstrom source mirror
  • [19:45:38] <mru> it wasn't a rebase actually
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  • [19:45:44] <mru> I amended a commit
  • [19:46:01] <koen> ah well, it's on the source mirror
  • [19:46:05] <mru> that was like one hour old
  • [19:46:12] <koen> that solves GPL issues for me
  • [19:46:23] <mru> you're monitoring my git too closely ;-)
  • [19:46:29] <ZeZu> could one pull everything from git instead of using the tarballs on angstrom mirror ?
  • [19:46:50] <mru> please be kind to my poor dsl line
  • [19:46:59] <ZeZu> ouch
  • [19:47:12] <ZeZu> I may be able to help out hosting some files
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  • [19:47:33] <ZeZu> i have an extra ip and some bandwidth
  • [19:47:38] <koen> as mru points out, hammering git repos when a tarballs cache exists is a bit antisocial
  • [19:48:11] <mru> I'll be merging the neon stuff into mainline eventually
  • [19:48:15] <koen> mru: what's the status of getting the neon bits into svn?
  • [19:48:21] * koen is typing too slow
  • [19:48:29] <ZeZu> probably quite a bit slower too, i was more interested in the configuration of OE on doing that kindof thing than doing it for my build
  • [19:48:51] <koen> ZeZu: classes/angstrom-mirrors.bbclass specifies the mirrors
  • [19:49:41] <ZeZu> ok
  • [19:50:10] * koen is debating whether to try gst-ffmpeg 0.10.5.3 or switch gst-ffmpeg to use the internal ffmpeg copy and patch that with the neon stuff
  • [19:50:46] <denix> sakoman_, koen: have you tried building x-load for omap3evm from OE lately? it breaks for me. beagleboard works though
  • [19:50:48] <ZeZu> i was going to copy over the other ffmpeg that was already built last night and try to use that :)
  • [19:50:56] <ZeZu> i figured that would be more work than i had time though
  • [19:51:32] <ZeZu> what would be the best place to contribute right now?
  • [19:52:20] <koen> denix: haven't tried that, I 'bricked' my evm trying to reflash it
  • [19:52:29] <koen> denix: so I dipswitched it to sd boot
  • [19:53:04] <ZeZu> I might be able to get some basic 3d running through the sgx, i am familiar with low level TA in older clx2 chipsets, kindof a stretch thinking the register base might be similar though
  • [19:53:32] <koen> the opensource sgx kernel drivers should be out soon
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  • [19:53:53] <koen> but the juice is in the userspace 'compiler'
  • [19:54:22] <ZeZu> right now everything is pure fb + neon ? for omapfb right ?
  • [19:54:23] <denix> koen: CFG_I2C_SPEED and CFG_I2C_SLAVE undeclared - does it ring a bell?
  • [19:54:35] <koen> denix: nope, sorry
  • [19:54:54] <koen> hmmm
  • [19:54:58] <koen> I'm hungry now
  • [19:55:02] <koen> stupid pavlov
  • [19:55:10] <denix> koen: :)
  • [19:55:37] <ZeZu> how simple is it to play with something like that ? save i wanted to write to the sgx register base, this requires writing a kernel land driver for it? or is there a way to cheat and make writes to kernel memory space to test our register writing ?
  • [19:55:43] <denix> people from pandora crowd are trying to reverse-engineer sgx drivers
  • [19:56:05] <ZeZu> yes i saw a post on it
  • [19:56:37] <ZeZu> i know the internal format of multiple polygon types and the tile accelerator register base if its similar to clx2
  • [19:56:53] <koen> would mmap'ing /dev/mem work?
  • [19:57:10] <likewise_> ZeZu: I think a tool called memdev2 or devmem2 allows that (koen says it(, but it depends a bit on how that register is accessible on the cpu. Is this PCI?
  • [19:57:18] <ZeZu> koen, that is probably along the lines of what i should have been asking you
  • [19:57:32] <Crofton|irssi> um burritos, again
  • [19:57:34] <ZeZu> pci? no i dont think so
  • [19:57:37] * koen is not a coder and only repeats snippets from irc or google
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  • [19:57:53] <ZeZu> Crofton|irssi, better than mushroom soup i just ate
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  • [19:58:00] <mru> I suspect the kernel module does little more than map the registers into userspace
  • [19:58:10] <mru> probably some clock and power management
  • [19:58:28] <ZeZu> yes, thats what i was thinking, along with "safe" memory access and such
  • [19:58:30] * likewise_ thinks that coding is only a very small of the open source software process :-)
  • [19:58:45] <denix> hey, stop talking about food...
  • [19:58:53] <likewise_> FOOD? where?!
  • [19:59:02] <sakoman_> denix: IIRC, you should be able to use the beagle x-load on evm
  • [19:59:04] <mru> coding is important, as are all the other things people do
  • [19:59:18] <likewise_> denix: Cannot think FOOD, I just ATE.
  • [19:59:19] <mru> we could use a little less hype around some projects...
  • [19:59:50] <likewise_> and a bit more hype for others :-)
  • [20:00:25] <mru> good projects don't need hype
  • [20:00:27] <denix> sakoman_: ok, I can try the beagle one meanwhile
  • [20:00:43] <koen> denix: does x-load need kernel headers?
  • [20:00:50] <ZeZu> offer still stands regarding webspace for tarballs or a svn/git repos, its an older server b ut has dedicated 100mbit nic, i have full admin access to setup anything
  • [20:00:55] <koen> denix: if so, it might get thrown off by the header move
  • [20:01:17] <denix> koen: but beagle still builds fine from the same sources
  • [20:02:06] <koen> beagle is still on .26 in OE
  • [20:02:10] <koen> aka pre-header-move
  • [20:02:39] <likewise_> hype->attention
  • [20:03:03] <denix> yeah, my omap3evm uses linux-omap2, i.e. .26
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  • [20:03:35] <koen> denix: ah, must be something else then
  • [20:03:52] <denix> http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/2147931.txt
  • [20:09:38] <sakoman_> koen: no x-load doesn't use kernel headers
  • [20:10:33] <sakoman_> koen: frankly I don't recall that I ever put any work into evm x-load
  • [20:11:05] <sakoman_> so it may never have worked
  • [20:11:20] <sakoman_> paying gigs always get the attention
  • [20:11:36] <denix> sakoman_: :)
  • [20:11:57] <mru> more qemu bugs...
  • [20:12:06] <mru> qemu sh4 is *really* buggy
  • [20:12:08] <sakoman_> Guess I figured someone from TI or Mistral would jump on the evm stuff
  • [20:12:15] <denix> I see the problem
  • [20:12:34] <denix> sakoman_: as you said, overo and beagle have CFG_I2C_* defined, but omap3evm doesn't
  • [20:12:34] <Crofton|irssi> slackers :)
  • [20:12:41] <ZeZu> qemu is open source right ? i have a full sh4 core i could donate ;)
  • [20:13:06] <mru> ZeZu: what chip/board?
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  • [20:13:16] <ZeZu> dreamcast
  • [20:13:21] <sakoman_> denix: as I worked on it, I realized that there really didn't need to be multiple versions of x-load
  • [20:13:24] * mru is trying to get ffmpeg working again on sh4
  • [20:13:34] <sakoman_> never got around to doing anything about that though
  • [20:13:47] <ZeZu> I'm fairly sure linux works in our dreamcast emulator
  • [20:13:57] <sakoman_> I know that the beagle and overo versions are easily interchangeable
  • [20:14:11] <ZeZu> without a good storage device though it is a pain in the ass to get software on the real thing, a bit easier on an emulator but ...
  • [20:14:34] <mru> now I have broken code *and* broken emulator
  • [20:14:46] <mru> sometimes it's hard to tell which one is at fault
  • [20:14:53] <ZeZu> i bet
  • [20:15:16] <ZeZu> http://www.emudev.org/nullDC-new/
  • [20:15:27] <ZeZu> here the crappy www site for the emulator
  • [20:17:22] <Eanmig> has anyone had any success with spca5xx cameras?
  • [20:21:14] <sakoman_> koen: have you tried udumpty image yet?
  • [20:21:28] <sakoman_> first boot is taking a *really* long time
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  • [20:22:32] <sakoman_> so far messages all look reasonable
  • [20:22:56] <sakoman_> except for "WARNING: Failed to parse default value `??????????? ?????? ;gtk-theme-selector.desktop,???????????? ??????????? ???;default-applications.desktop,??????????? ????;gnome-cups-manager.desktop]' for schema (/schemas/apps/control-center/cc_actions_list)
  • [20:27:17] <koen> sakoman_: haven't tried it yet, probably will look at it during the weekend
  • [20:27:43] <sakoman_> just finshed booting - comes up with a matchbox desktop
  • [20:28:54] <koen> it should come up with metacity
  • [20:29:50] <sakoman_> koen: it doesn't. boot log says:
  • [20:29:53] <sakoman_> Configuring metacity
  • [20:29:53] <sakoman_> update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to /usr/bin/matchbox-session
  • [20:30:35] <koen> *lightbulb*
  • [20:31:05] <koen> right
  • [20:31:18] <koen> both matchbox and metacity have the same u-a priority
  • [20:31:35] <sakoman_> and ma comes before me
  • [20:32:37] <koen> AIUI u-a picks the top entry, which sort by creation time
  • [20:32:43] <koen> i.e. a race
  • [20:33:48] <koen> sakoman_: I just committed something I think fixes the issue
  • [20:34:09] <koen> sakoman_: well, launched metacity, we want to launch gnome-session
  • [20:34:43] <koen> (actually we want to launch gdm, which launches gnome-session)
  • [20:37:01] <Eanmig> whenever i run spcacat i get this in dmesg: gspca: [spca5xx_open:1996] DEALLOC error on init_Isoc
  • [20:37:28] <Eanmig> and a bunch of other errors
  • [20:40:20] <sakoman_> koen: I relinked by hand to gnome-session but can't test it now because I am running into the dang "mmc won't mount" issue :-(
  • [20:41:03] <sakoman_> damn heisenbugs :-(
  • [20:44:05] <ds2> Eanmig: those are some of the problems
  • [20:45:12] <Eanmig> no way to fix them?
  • [20:45:29] <Eanmig> i cant even capture anything
  • [20:46:07] <Eanmig> it recognizes the right bridge though zc3xx
  • [20:46:18] <Eanmig> getcapability even seems to work
  • [20:46:47] <Eanmig> hrmm seems to have found the wrong sensor
  • [20:47:39] <Eanmig> it should have found Tas5130c but found HV7131R
  • [20:52:47] <mru> ldesnogu_: ping
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  • [21:17:37] <sakoman_> koen: update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to /usr/bin/metacity
  • [21:20:48] <sakoman_> sadly, it doesn't seem to work though -- just a black screen with cursor
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  • [21:28:45] <RyoKimball> Does anyone know the name of this guy/puzzle?
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  • [21:30:41] <RyoKimball> Josephus!
  • [21:30:45] <RyoKimball> heh, thanks anyways.
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  • [21:31:50] <koen> sakoman_: yeah, the gpe scripts exec x-window-manager when they actually want to exec a session manager
  • [21:32:29] <koen> sakoman_: that's why I want to use gdm instead of gpe-login
  • [21:33:33] <koen> I suspect we'd need another set of xsession-scripts
  • [21:34:10] <koen> by which I mean "steal the ones from ubuntu"
  • [21:35:33] <sakoman_> koen: just for grins I relinked x-window-manager to gnome-session
  • [21:36:00] <sakoman_> I then get a nice leaf background and a grey bar across the top of the screen
  • [21:36:09] <koen> progress!
  • [21:36:13] <sakoman_> :-)
  • [21:36:23] <koen> I suspect that the grey bar is the panel
  • [21:36:24] <sakoman_> I'll try adding gdm
  • [21:36:52] <sakoman_> WIll I need to try to remove gpe-login?
  • [21:37:15] <koen> atm it will all come crashing down if you do that
  • [21:37:30] <sakoman_> oh, well them maybe I won't :-)
  • [21:37:47] <koen> you could do 'mv /usr/bin/gpe-login /usr/bin/gpe-login.gone ; ln -s /usr/bin/gdm /usr/bin/gpe-login'
  • [21:38:19] <sakoman_> OK, I'll give that a try after I get gdm installed
  • [21:38:40] <sakoman_> I really shouldn't be spending time on this :-)
  • [21:38:49] <koen> heh
  • [21:39:42] <sakoman_> it's a pleasant diversion from things I don't really want to do
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  • [21:50:30] <ldesnogu_> mru, pong
  • [21:51:08] <mru> ldesnogu_: I need some help with qemu internals
  • [21:51:27] <ldesnogu_> perhaps you can come to #qemu channel
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  • [23:34:58] <jkridner> koen: thanks for the losetup tip. I've been wondering how to mount partitions in SD card images to be able to build bootable SD cards from a script.
  • [23:35:51] <jkridner> I've now created what I think is a bootable SD card image file without ever touching an SD card.
  • [23:36:21] <jkridner> the fact that I'm using a remote machine for all my builds makes it a bit of a hassle to write the SD card images, but 'dd' on my Mac works fine.
  • [23:37:24] <jkridner> I wonder if I need to do something to free up my /dev/loop1 after '/sbin/losetup -v -o 32256 /dev/loop1 sd_image'
  • [23:38:10] <Crofton|irssi> umount?
  • [23:38:12] <Crofton|irssi> I dunno
  • [23:40:01] <ds2> if you did it manually, yes
  • [23:40:06] <ds2> do losetup -d /dev/loop1
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  • [23:44:09] <Crofton|irssi> 4
  • [23:44:21] <mru> 5
  • [23:44:50] <Crofton|irssi> heh
  • [23:45:05] * Crofton|irssi wonders what time mru goes to bed ...
  • [23:45:26] <mru> not before midnight
  • [23:51:12] <ds2> Crofton|irssi: since you responded yesterday, here's the link for the pin mux stuff. Comments/complaints - http://www.hy-research.com/omap3_pinmux.html
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  • [23:55:08] <mturquette> what gcc version is used by default when building angstrom for the beagle?
  • [23:56:11] <Crofton|irssi> 4.3.x for user space
  • [23:56:23] <Crofton|irssi> I think we still use ccsl for kernel
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  • [23:58:01] <mturquette> ccsl = code sourcery?
  • [23:58:23] <Crofton|irssi> yeah
  • [23:58:26] <Crofton|irssi> csl
  • [23:58:34] <Crofton|irssi> aka Hogwarts
  • [23:58:53] <Crofton|irssi> my typing has been abysmal today